Real. And many “3rd world” or developing countries have the happiest people alive, despite having abysmally low standards of living. Money is often not freedom, but bondage
"everyday there are more and more people making life easier and easier yet more and more difficult, with railways, steamboats and omnibus and other easily apprehended compendium. There remains one danger namely that the ease become too great that people will want difficulty" Kierkegaard.
@@ctrl_x1770 it is a quote from the same man in this video, Yukio Mishima, he was a rather famous Japanese poet who eventually committed seppuku after an attempted coup d'etat in Japan. He wrote many beautiful things.
As soon as he started to talk about noble causes, you knew he was going to mention how this concept was dead in today's world : it's all about becoming rich and successful and comparing yourself to others, and it's draining as hell for most people.
facts. true success comes from inner peace and self acceptance, and no amount of material or status will change that. having good mental health and financial literacy are by far sooooo much more important than being “rich and successful” “My riches is life, forever.”
>it's all about becoming rich and successful and comparing yourself to others this is not an accident, corporate influence has spread these ideas throughout our culture via media and social science research. (This is not a conspiracy theory either - there are many documents where this kind of social engineering has been discussed very explicitly.) They want you to think that you're just a selfish hairless monkey, and deny your higher emotions, lest you do things like create egalitarian worker-run workplaces and render corporations obsolete.
yes having money should be n1 if you want a familly,too many miserable family where i live because they got no money and 4 kids,they live slaves life their kids have shit education and get slave jobs
if you are not doing everything to be rich, you are going towards the poverty, and poor people are the worst - when a thief will stole you car - its probably some idiot who believed in noble causes instead of getting a job. so noble causes are basically scam to get enough poor people as collapsing economy need a lot of slaves
Athism is the root of this … not believing in god and having no religion is not normal state of humans … God did send messengers all abrahamic religions talked almost about the same things despite it being formed hundred of years apart ..
Angsty atheists moved on to the "literally me" type of content where they mope around like sad losers. I have hope for the future because the solution is simple. Find Jesus. Find God. Society will have to reach a low point before society at large rekindles its relation with religion, but you can get a head start on it.
OKAY BUT ANOTHER PERSON COULD HAVE THE SAME EXACT CIRCUMSTANCES IN LIFE AS YOU BUT HAVE A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT OUTLOOK!!! IT JUST DEPENDS ON HOW DEPRESSED YOU ARE!!!
THERE'S A STATE OF MIND WHERE YOU REALLY CAN'T "SENSE" POSITIVITY, AND EVERY IMMEDIATE THOUGHT THAT GENERATES IN YOUR HEAD IS NEGATIVE!!! I REALLY BELIEVE IT'S YOUR PHYSICAL HEALTH THAT DETERMINES THE BALANCE OF CHEMICALS IN YOUR BRAIN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT!!! SO GET FULL UNBROKEN SLEEP EVERY NIGHT, RUN FOR MILES EVERYDAY, AND I'M NOT A PHYSICIAN AT ALL BUT I THINK EATING TOO MUCH SUGAR STOPS YOUR SYSTEM FROM WORKING PROPERLY!!!
I have NEVER heard someone else express this. In my mid 20's after a string of drug addicted partners, I tried to off myself, and when I was almost done; I realized, this is abandoning EVERYone who suffers, like me and MUCH worse. Compassion for others will give you a reason to live and to protect, look inside, we are built to care for each other, to protect each other from suffering
This goes back to Nietzsche and the existentialists who basically said without God nihilism is a serious threat, when nothing means anything people start to despair and must be strong enough to deal with the void.
So instead of finding true meaning we should believe in religion? What if religion is a lie should we still believe in it for this false sense of meaning? That's always been the issue for me Nietzsche never actually found an answer to nihilism so he turned blindly to religion because the only way to combat it that he found was through blindly believing in something. And for the people that don't believe in religion they never got a true answer. I don't think that religion answers nihilism. I think the true answer to nihilism is finding our own sense of meaning. What gives us personal purpose. For exemple i hate working useless in offices and such so i'm on my way to find a job that will give me a sense of meaning like becoming a firefighter or an ambulance worker. One or the other if i saved a single life then it'll all be worth it and if it's not at least i saved lives. That's what answers nihilism not religion. Religion is putting duck tape on a problem that's too big to be fixed with it.
@@HeyMomonia Nietzsche despised religion and thought Christianity was worse than the others (because it values the weak and the sick and holds back the strong and the courageous). His ubermensch was meant to be to man what man was to ape and would be able to find its own values, answer to itself, control its impulses so that was his answer.
@@HeyMomoniaYou clearly don't know what true religiosity is, man. Do not think about codes and laws and doctrines, for these are just exteriorities, manifestations. The true religion resides in one's heart, and it is not an individual thing, but rather a social thing: the way you get along with others; things like love and compasion; the desire for peace and enlightment of the spirit; the desire for truth and meaning that is not bound to materialism, but to positive things that makes us human. We humans have a heart and reason: the meaning of life resides in between these two things, I think. I, for example, find the meaning of my life in caring for my family, and working to improve my life and my family's life, turning myself into a better person, and helping others. It requires patience, and many other virtues to achieve this. The meaning of life don't need to be something spetacular: it can actually be something pretty simple.
@@KeepCalmCapybara Those are values that you personally have they are not necessarily religious. You don't need religion to live like that. Trust me i used to be religious for actually most of my and quit it less than 10 years ago. And guess what? I still hold the same values but without the problems i had with religion. Like the way they often see women as inferior, the way they treat none believers and gay people, the way they make you believe that if someone doesn't hold the same belief he's gonna end up in hell and be tortured forever. You don't need religion for this. Hell you can believe in and an afterlife without religion. Those concepts existed way before Christianity or even judaism. Religion tells you to treat others well but also tells you they're probably gonna end up in hell. Also why do you do good things? Because it makes you feel good? Because god asked you to? Or because you fear hell? Those are all questions i had to go through and confront my beliefs until i realized i always made my own morals and meaning in life and religion was corrupting it. Maybe it's not the same for you but i think it's important to have different point of views and show people there are different options instead of telling them if they don't believe the same way i do they're gonna end up in hell tortured forever.
@@theslyngl It's a B.S. "war", you need to dive into some rabbit holes and you'll see the entire world is all scripted and they're literally all in on all of it (behind closed doors).
Strange this pops up. I was born into solitude and 41 years later im still there. Being of service to people is where im at my best. A decade has passed since the last time I had any sort of company. The colour is stripped from the world. Money buys me things I don’t care about and i eat food i no longer enjoy. 30yrs was long enough to fight the inevitable.
Don't forget: you don't need a government or social system or bad friends to be compassionate and ethical or to exist. I'll be your friend if no one else is wise enough to do so.
We traded a dangerous vividness of daily experience and the full range of our emotions for safety, comfort, and predictability. There are more years in our lives, but they are mostly empty.
Sometimes I think life would be much better if we put a hard cap on our lifespan. Like Blade Runner replicants. Let's say 70yo. Having that finality set in stone, people would be less likely to walk around aimlessly as if they're going to live forever.
@@booshank2327 Bruh we already do have that and it hasn't helped a lot If anything there's a bigger pressure to make something of yourself but since we live in an individualist society, we have nothing to put our lives into except get rich and indulge in hedonism People who lived a quarter our age built pyramids and cathedrals
when did we trade one for another? was it the industrial revolution or maybe it was during ancient times when we cultivated the arts, built baths and spas, had a sewer system and other amenities and luxuries? humanity's goal has always been to better its quality of life and make it easier
this rings so true with me, 24 years old, never worked towards something I cared for and it shows in everything... when I'm done with uni finally, I swore to myself to not work for meaninglessness anymore and to work towards something and for something that I really care for (in my case, music)
Hell yeah, just be careful not to set high expectations. Often it’s the guilt and shame of not achieving what we feel we should* do that holds us back from enjoying life. I encourage you to accept yourself where you are, be honest with yourself, and try your best. Be mindful of what is in your control and what isn’t. Best of luck!
@@ASteppingStone Thanks man, I tend to be quite the perfectionist, but I think in my current situations, my goals and expectations seem reasonable~ I'll do my best and see how it turns out ^^
As a musician I can tell you music is one of the most vain things in the world, also useless when you see it the right way. If you hope to be fullfilled making music, being famous and having it's pleasures, entertaining masses of people you don't know and you don't care about. Giving them a moment of "satisfaction" in exchange of their money; you're in for a rude awakening.
This is so True. Withot a real purpose, life is pretty much meaningless. You have to know who you truly are and where to go. If you have a gift or a talent, then use that to make the world a better place. It's your duty to do so and you know it.
The purpose in life, in my eyes, is to find that something you'd be willing to pass away for. Thing is, there are very little things nowadays that are worthy of your life.
that's the dumbest shit ever, did you even read what you wrote before posting it? mishima's a psycho who could only see things through his biased perspective so obviously his solution was to emulate the samurai he idolized and end everything with him dying. you're not in the middle of a war and even if you were you'd be of more use to your cause alive than dead and left to rot. get your head out of your ass and realize that you don't need a flashy and cinematic ideal to strive for in order to have a fulfilling life - what you need is to LIVE it. whether it's charity, social change, activism, doing something for your local community, creating art or just taking care of your friends and family it's all perfectly valid starting points. sitting in your room and thinking about how you wish someone would give you a sword and hype you up to go to war is infantile
I understand the sentiment, and the lack of strong causes is a real one, but this is what spiralled into the negative aspects of Japanese culture. Unnecessary and unproductive self-sacrifice. Not to mention the exploitation of loyalty and a sense of righteousness by liars and greed. Finding a noble cause to LIVE FOR is what should be sought after, not dying for one, even if it's a testament to the commitment of the individual. Giving your life is moment of dedication, living for one is a life-long responsibility. You just have to make an effort to find a cause, instead of waiting for one to be presented to you.
What he's saying is that there was a time where there wasn't even an effort to make to find meaning. Now it's so hard to find. I also disagree with you when you say people need a cause to live for and not to die for. Because both are actually connected. For exemple a firefighter lives for a cause but is also willing to risk his life and die for it. A lot of the time both are connected and some people need them to be connected. Of course not everyone an artist doesn't need to risk his life for his art. But even this could also be a cause to die for to some artists. I do think your point of view is very interesting and positive but i felt it was a little bit incomplete. If you disagree with me feel free to answer my comment.
as far as results go, it went pretty well for japan. they would be living much better lives as individuals if the USA did not decide to pull them down out of irrational fear and for the sake of preserving its place in the global status quo. the USA is doing the same thing to china nowadays. now these people have to grind harder for less thanks to the state of the economy, while you see what the USA is doing to itself lol i would rather have japanese culture than whatever the hell you call this in the USA any time of the day
I found this out 20 years ago. There's a limit in how much joy you can find in chasing your own selfish desires. Real happiness comes from a purpose to live for people and causes greater than ourselves. It expands beyond the self. Its why selfishness and depression go hand in hand. If you want to cure it immediately, stop thinking about yourself so damn much and volunteer your time for others. You can have all the money in the world but hedonism and living for your own sake has no greater meaning. Even though the uneducated don't understand why this is, they feel it nonetheless. The human spirit craves purpose, dignity, real love and connection to others. Look at all the centerian communities around the world and you'll find the same. Look at all those people around the world who live a non modern lifestyle, with deep connections with others and their environment. This is all common knowledge.
@@JophielThe you are already much further than many people. you are much further just for the fact that you can recognize it. now what you have to do is be very conscious of it during your everyday life. changing is not about making huge drastic changes very quickly. its about consciously making small decisions that bring you closer to where you want to be. i would suggest you start with kindness. start with kindness without expecting anything in return and i mean anything. be kind to everyone even those who hurt you. im sure you can do it.
Now we've got to figure out: "What is the right ultimate purpose for humanity?" Be careful, because you don't want to go down the path of fascism, as many have done before.
Mishima killed himself after trying to spark a popular uprising in front of the japanese Diet, he was wearing an imperial army officer uniform with the sword and everything.
@@cesargonzalez4146just because his attemped "solution" was insane doesn't mean his observations were wrong. Marx is well worth reading even though attempts at full Communism have ultimately failed
Find me a therapist who opposes finding personal meaning in your life, I dare you. Mishima was a far-right nutcase throwing his life away for a LARP. That you find him inspirational, is incredibly pathetic
I feel like I got nothing to look forward to in life. No purpose or hope. People prefer material wealth and superficial status over uplifting or encouraging their fellow human beings. I don't care if it's a cliche complaint at this point. This contemporary world has no place for boldness or honor.
hmm very valid. i understand where you are coming from. so why dont you create something to look forward to in life. why dont you create that purpose or hope. if you see others prefering material wealth and superficial status over uplifiting or encouraging their fellow human beings, then why dont you become the change you are looking for. it should always start with you. i think that if you believe in what you are saying then you should show it and other people will follow suit. never give up and stay positive. you got this.
@@sixman2926I appreciate the encouraging words. I will try to gather up the strength to actually practice what I preach and perhaps someday I may feel hope once again.
And kudos to you already for having the strength to use your voice and share your thoughts. It seems many others resonate with what you said. I admire your vulnerability
We are limited beings and to acknowledge that is to acknowledge the world around us. One cannot find tranquility living the superficial life, so the only place for us humans to be is to live beyond ourselves.
I think we kinda recognize historical noble causes as hollow, fighting for honour or loyalty to your ruler back then was a way to get you to fight and die in wars for them or a principle of personal reciprocity, cultural norms about social status and gender roles kept society stable but were also highly restrictive on freedom and our ability to make decisions for ourselves, they also allowed the ruling class to more easily control the rest of society. Religion is definitely still widely available if you choose but many in the west just don’t believe in it as strongly as before. Empires have all collapsed and most recognize they were just a way for a country to enrich themselves off the resources of others. In the present people still believe in political leaders, in ideologies, in materialism as noble causes and while I don’t think these things are bad to support, making them the purpose of your life I think will make you less happy. The challenge is to find a noble cause in modern society, and really to start I think it can be as simple as volunteering at a food bank or any charity where you can see the effects of your actions, or helping your friends out more, or living a simple but fulfilling life where you can be proud of the work you do, or starting a family and doing your absolute best to help your children achieve their own dreams. I’m not religious myself but I have many friends who have found purpose from just talking to people on an emotional level in church and helping people find their own purpose, or finding meaning in a relationship with a higher power. Ultimately the biggest benefit and downside of modern noble causes is that it’s all up to you and you get to decide for yourself what you are willing to live and die for.
Awesome take. Honestly, I think fighting for a king is still something that's beautiful and satisfying in a primal sense. It's just that humans are easily corruptible creatures, so a human king is just not a very good long-term solution for any societies.
@@quanganhdobui1432 Yeah I agree with that, monarchies and "great leaders" have a sort of romantic or nostalgic feel to them and they always make for cool stories, even if the reality is different.
I will not rest until I am returned to nothing. Damn God and his despotic ways, forcing me to exist in his sub-par reality. Also, why would I want to rest inside God? Isnt he a dude?
@@GnosticAtheistGod is a father figure, if you ever understood, reasons why he says he is father God, and none come before him, He created everything even the Devil, and you and the devil free will, and he says repent or be cast out on the day of judgment in the place devils fear, a black and blue hell forever.
That's why we can't be at ease for long while living alone with ourselves. We were made to be in fellowship with the Sublime, Supreme, Beautiful God-- anything leds than that won't satisfy our souls. Noble causes are but the shadows of His ways cast upon the Earth. May we awake to seek Him, and in Him find what we were made for. That's what Christ meant when He said "for he who keeps his life shall lose it, but he who gives his life for my sake, shall have it". Living in oneself is only a kind of dying, as the video suggests; but following Christ, even to the point of giving up of the comfort and ease of our life to instead better conform to His way of seeing what really matters, will give us a life truly worth living, worthy enough for an eternity of living.
"You should remember the words of the Lord Jesus: ‘It is more blessed to give than to receive.’”” Acts of the Apostles 20:35 NLT God bless yall. Stay loving others, of course, yourself too.🙏❤️
He was an ultra-nationalist nut and Imperial Japan supporter. Meaning he supported Japan committing numerous horrendous crimes against humanity. Not a good guy but weebs give him a pass 🤦♂️
Mishima was a racist and a reactionary who wanted a return to Imperial Japan. Meaning he supported the commission of numerous despicable war crimes. Not a good guy yet weebs will give him a pass 🤦♂️
@TrueEnglishMan01 Now tell me are you holding the countries you praise accountable for there horrible acts against humanity? Only idiots label people like mishima down to "Racist" he was very cultured in many languages and countries, NOT just japanese. You should relearn your history from a not one sided perspective.
Very true. There's ways though to create a noble cause such as craftsmanship, self discipline, good leadership and integrity at many stations still. However it seems like there's a trend toward ending all harmful things which increasingly have broadened in scope. The powers that be seem to have settled on a few noble causes to end all noble causes: the ending of death itself, homogenizing the world and reducing everyone into harmless consumers that don't get into trouble. Like, I think there could be a safe-ish society where there minimal senseless violence, but there needs to be an edge somewhere, a culture of self discipline involving physical and bookish education, festivals that celebrate nature/processes that support the society, etc.
why not fight for freedom and democracy? not sure where you live now but in the u.s. there has no choice in presidential candidates, the eu is governed by the unelected council, china is governed by the communist party, and everywhere in general is corrupted by the rich bribes being legal(or easy to say aren't a bribe). Just saying, your kids might enjoy a world where they can vote and afford a house. not just be a slave (atleast slaves used to be housed for free without worry, debt slavery can barely offer you a mattress without the security it won't turn into a sidewalk)
@@gloop32 and see what? Radfems, lgbtqwerty+++ 🤡, homeless people on the streets, veterans being treated as traitors, universities indocrinating our youth with destructive ideas and harmful narratives, aliens skyrocketing the crime statistics? The west is a decaying empire, it's not worth living in here anymore let alone dying for it.
Out of context this seems like a very deep and insightful message. Mishima though, while a great writer, was someone conflicted with his own inadequacies, or at least a perception of inadequacies. Watching his mentor go off to war, and told that he was the future of Japan, then being denied service to Japan due to a misdiagnosed illness. Has all the makings of a man who felt like a failure after being drilled into his head all the Imperial propaganda and belief that all others were inferior. This is a guy who was made to believe that the fascist Japanese Empire was the only thing to live for and when that illusion crumbled so did his mental state.
His immediate postwar writings are mostly introspective and psychological. His work didn't really take on a political character until 1960, fifteen years after the war. So it was not the immediate experience of the collapse of the Empire of Japan that colored his beliefs so much as his disillusionment with the postwar society, just as he implies here. As for being conflicted over his perceived inadequacies, that's true of everyone, so I fail to see how that invalidates this message in any way.
Shocks me how people who are so filled with self loathing speak with such authority on the meaning of life. If you dislike yourself so much that you cannot stand to live for yourself, then call it what it is. Trying to make it some noble thing that you lack enough self esteem to live for yourself is what I dislike.
I have always passionately hated John Lennon's "Imagine", even before I understood why. And this is it. Louis Armstrong's "What a Wonderful World" was a far better hymn for world peace.
Stay away from negative people and don't let them try to control your actions, and that includes family and peers. Are they truly trying to support you and your cause? Actions speak louder than words
I've never had this problem. This guy also neglects to mention that these "noble causes" often used to be the perpetuation of the continued existence of a landowner/noble figure who lives more lavishly than you could ever dream to.
Love is not a transaction, law is. The Gospel is rich in this message. Love triumphing over law enabled by self sacrifice of the indebted. Rest assured that the gift of Gods love is free. Try to earn it and you will fail. Once saved by belief one is given a second nature born of God who is the one who lives as Christ in love and will never die and who is in contention with the old man who is born of flesh and cannot but sin unable to overcome the law.
Alas, the ideal always falls short of the reality. The will of the people, distilled into action and momentum would be beautiful. However, our slovenly nature gets the better of us, and we defer power and governance of our lives to charming misanthropes.
@@paganofthenorth448 Mass democracy can never work. In fact, the original architects of western democracy never seriously considered a system with universal right to vote.
@@erebus79 Very true, the quality of a democracy is entirely dependent upon the quality of its participants, and the maintenance of quality inherently requires discrimination.
@@paganofthenorth448 even with that its still one of the worst forms of governance. nothing really can be accomplished because eventually sides split and you just go back & forth so doing anything takes 10x longer than a monarchy, for example. monarchy with the threat of rebellion is one of the best forms imo, because to change leadership people do have to be willing to vote with their lives and until then you get a unified & strong moving government
Perhaps nowadays, to "die for something" means to let ALL other possible future lives that one MIGHT lead cease to come into form, for to allow a single, unique life to emerge in service of something.
It's always been something that makes me cry, when I pondered on whether I'll die a regretful death over a life wasted. Ultimately, self-improvement is self-fulfillment. The many grievances we had in life, if we can diminish it bit by bit as we go on, maybe then we can leave satisfied. A noble-cause doesn't have to be something big that affected everyone, I think living true to oneself is already a noble enough cause you can do for yourself.
My life was already considered meaningless or evil because I'm not religious. What is it to me that some people may feel my life is meaningless because it's not "spiritually fulfilling" like this person says. At the end of the day, spirituality is about as tangible and meaningful as you feel it is. We're all gonna shit ourselves when we die no matter how much spirit or noble cause we pursue. Finding a value that transcends oneself... Where is this guy getting this all from. What manual of the universe did he stumble on and why isn't he sharing it with us if it's so true with such certainty. Why does it specifically need to transcend one's self. What if I held an ideal that I am a god. Does that transcend me? Does that make my life meaningful if I strive for all my years to be seen as a god? At the end of the day, this video, all religions, all forms of society, it's all just guesses at what is "good for us". Nobody actually knows. Anyone who acts like they do is trying to sell you something, or trying to make themselves feel better. And the second you actually put this guy's logic under any form of scrutiny it disappears into thin air just like the breath he spent saying it.
I am glad to have listened to this man's words, it reaffirms my views that I must start a family and that all the self improvement that I am doing to become the best man I can has to be directed to serve others and to live and die for a cause, which undoubtedly will be the family that I'll form in a future
For those who don't know, this is Yukio Mishima, one of the more colorful characters of postwar Japan. He was a famous writer, still considered one of the best and most important japanese writers to this day. He was also a strict nationalist and imperialist (and probably a closeted homosexual), and thought that Japan should return to being ruled by the emperor. He and several of his followers infiltrated a military camp, where he stood on the roof and held a passionate speech to the soldiers about how Japan had lost its way and needed to return to the old ways. He hoped this would inspire the soldiers to start a revolution. Instead, they only laughed. So, he went inside and commited Seppuku.
Anyone curious with his work, I recommend "Spring Snow", "Runaway Horses", "The Temple of Dawn", and the "Decay of the Angel". It's a fantastic tetralogy which chronicles the decline of Japanese culture. Beautifully written books that will break your heart, even if you're not Japanese.
@@maxn.7234 Even in English translation some of the most evocative of baroque mental imagery I've ever experienced in reading anything. Movies and popular entertainment will never reach these certain levels and should be discarded as the standard, thankfully it seems they are with their downfall in importance with how things are going. Hate that I even lived far back enough to acknowledge that honestly.
Bittersweet relationship and fondness for Mishima. I love his work and find him to be really interesting despite the obvious problematic things. He'll always fascinate and inspire me.
I've found that I'm always happiest when I'm sharing in joy with friends or family, cooking for loved ones, helping friends with projects. Stuff like that, I think it's the closest thing you can get to that idea of not living for yourself. Trying to use what you have to help those who've helped you or care about you.
Even when we had reasons to die for something, it was to serve politicians. It's hard to say that you died for your country when people are filling their pockets with the contract money from weapons sales.
You can say that about anything, like Dirt Clump is lord and will admire your virtues with reward or whatever. You're still going to die and pass into unending unconsciousness and Dirt Clump isn't going to make that not happen.
It's so true! It's an ebb and flow. If you feel useless you're probably just tired/burned out. Don't worry, people will give you support, as long as you don't try to act above where you are, i.e. try to act helpful in order to virtue signal because you feel down. That's the problem. Stop worrying.
I go through a lot of what he said. One thing I thought was missing was about how utterly boring and insensitive everything that you used to enjoy becomes if you haven't found an ideal to go for. And then you just feel a little more dead every single day. But you just can't find that higher ideal because you see BS everywhere you look, from governments to religion to companies or whatever. And then you fall on a doomed loop because you're already exhausted of the things you used to care about. It's tough. Not, trying to figure out where your next meal is coming from tough, but tough in its way nevertheless. It really puzzles me when I see my well adjusted friends and colleagues enjoy the day when I'm just dreading it and wanting to go to bed to see if next day will be better when I know it will not.
This is not the case, this man and every person alive is shaped by the world around them, it is likely this man understood many philosophies and read many words and with this he was able to compress his present thoughts into a simple sentence, where as the philosophers of old had to write long scripts to describe a new concept they were discovering.
@@tj03297his motive was for the emperor and mishima is a fascist. He has motives and politics and agency. He wanted to undermine democracy and reinstate the emperor. He is strong on dying for nation states more specifically in japanese
@JophielThe The Bible isn't written in simple words. That's why there are thousands of Christian denominations and abrahmic religions, for that matter.
Mishima is half-correct. It is true that humans need something to live for in order to survive. Viktor Frankl also delves into this phenomenon in Man's Search for Meaning. Mishima errs in equating meaning solely with a reactionary and nationalistic mindset, which ironically drove him to suicide.
0:40 democracy has indeed become the ideal in itself, which is to say it has none, but it used to be a means to enthrone higher ideals. Fall of the republic and all that.
The only reason I live is for others. Not in a negative way, but it motivates me to help, knowing I can make a difference to at least one person that needs it.
Everyone saying that there are no causes, what the hell are they talking about? Society desperately needs people who get to work for noble causes if we want to continue with a future, whether cleaning beaches and rivers, planting a tree, helping animals or poor people, examples are everywhere, we don't need a fucking government, religion dynasty I don't care, they're all the same shit. The examples of your help can be applied everywhere, sacrifice yourself for something worthwhile, create your own noble cause.
He was most likely cluster b if we’d speculate him now. Charismatic, charming, intelligent, fun, dramatic, smart but super insecure and unstable. Don’t get me wrong I love his writing
We’ve also “beaten the game” of life/history in that there are no more frontiers easily accessible to a lot of people to drive technological/civilizational advancement, and a machine or app can do everything for us, so we feel like there’s nothing we can do anymore to contribute
Crossing the Atlantic was not easily accessible to a lot of people, going to the moon felt like an impossibility for the longest time. I think it's easy to look back and see how much people have done and think "oh of course they did that, everyone knows it's possible". But it didn't seem that way back then. I agree that most people today think we have beaten the game, but I don't think we actually have.
I think this is actually because corporations have made everything illegal...everything these days is "proprietary" or you must work here to use it. Back in the day if I had an idea for making my accounting book better I could just do it and it could spread through the country, nowadays I'd have to reach out about the bug to quickbooks, then have 100 other people agree with me online for them to look at it and say maybe we will fix that bug you all complain about...then 2 years later maybe they make the tiny change. We just can't work together because of all the barriers designed to keep money at the top. :/
@@michaelsmith953 Exactly this, there was a time where competition was great for innovation, but now it's just meaningless intellectual property consolidation with the top few conglomerates stifling new ideas to disempower competitors. Normally regulators would step in with anti-trust laws but we all know how well-oiled the corrupt public-private revolving door is these days :/
corporations and governments artificially create a scarcity of labor. ever wonder how in a world of plenty engineers and scientists are mostly unemployed?
like 1/2 of the world's population still suffers from extreme deprivation. There's a cause for us right there. Why does ever-increasing convenience for those of us lucky enough to be relatively well-off have to be the goal? there's nothing noble about decadence if it's withheld for the minority.
This assumes that the inverse doesn't exist. There are people who live selflessly. Always giving their best for something that they believe in with all their heart. Only for them to get desensitized that no matter how much they give, no matter how much they sacrifice, they tire of living for others. Striking a balance between both is hard but its what should be striven. Afterall, living for something wouldn't work if you don't live for yourself.
Well, a lot of my peers say their “why” is money, education, and uninspiring benefits like that. I feel I’m the only one who says I always wanted to be up there, so it’s always a bit disconcerting for me.
He tried a coup d‘etat to restore the former empire and killed himself afterwards. That doesn’t disprove what he says; but it‘s an important piece of context to now he was an extremist nationalist.
A man who has nothing he'd die for isn't living.
I'm 14 and this is too deep
@@Loquacious_Jackson its ok. just keep these things in your head.
this is true
Sounds like me, I ain't living and gonna kill myself someday.
Counterpoint, if you die then you are no longer alive.
He described why in modern times (despite many having luxuries that could only be imagined a century ago) misery is present and ever growing.
Real. And many “3rd world” or developing countries have the happiest people alive, despite having abysmally low standards of living. Money is often not freedom, but bondage
🤔🤔 yea I always wondered why wealthy people commit suicide
"everyday there are more and more people making life easier and easier yet more and more difficult, with railways, steamboats and omnibus and other easily apprehended compendium. There remains one danger namely that the ease become too great that people will want difficulty" Kierkegaard.
good times create weak men
hard times create strong men
@@spiderjerusalem4009brilliant, let's make life hard for everyone, start with yourself tho 😁
"I wanted to explode like a firework,
lighting the sky for an instant and disappear."
MY MUSLIM FRIEND SAID THATS DEEP
Nice quote, where is this from?
Deepak Throatra?
@@ctrl_x1770 it is a quote from the same man in this video, Yukio Mishima, he was a rather famous Japanese poet who eventually committed seppuku after an attempted coup d'etat in Japan. He wrote many beautiful things.
@@ZachSnider-ts3uiNo one may come to The Father, except through The Son
As soon as he started to talk about noble causes, you knew he was going to mention how this concept was dead in today's world : it's all about becoming rich and successful and comparing yourself to others, and it's draining as hell for most people.
facts. true success comes from inner peace and self acceptance, and no amount of material or status will change that. having good mental health and financial literacy are by far sooooo much more important than being “rich and successful”
“My riches is life, forever.”
>it's all about becoming rich and successful and comparing yourself to others
this is not an accident, corporate influence has spread these ideas throughout our culture via media and social science research. (This is not a conspiracy theory either - there are many documents where this kind of social engineering has been discussed very explicitly.) They want you to think that you're just a selfish hairless monkey, and deny your higher emotions, lest you do things like create egalitarian worker-run workplaces and render corporations obsolete.
yes having money should be n1 if you want a familly,too many miserable family where i live because they got no money and 4 kids,they live slaves life their kids have shit education and get slave jobs
if you are not doing everything to be rich, you are going towards the poverty, and poor people are the worst - when a thief will stole you car - its probably some idiot who believed in noble causes instead of getting a job.
so noble causes are basically scam to get enough poor people as collapsing economy need a lot of slaves
That's just capitalism. Commit yourself to making a better world, one without capitalism, and you'll find your noble cause.
Perfectly explains the rampant nihilism and hedonism we see today.
And? It is what it is. It is also self-correcting. It is nothing but a process that leads to whatever it leads to.
@@GnosticAtheist "and?". Wdym? there were no such precedents in history for the current devilry, that's why it is remarkable
Athism is the root of this … not believing in god and having no religion is not normal state of humans … God did send messengers all abrahamic religions talked almost about the same things despite it being formed hundred of years apart ..
Angsty atheists moved on to the "literally me" type of content where they mope around like sad losers. I have hope for the future because the solution is simple. Find Jesus. Find God. Society will have to reach a low point before society at large rekindles its relation with religion, but you can get a head start on it.
@@Supe204atheism has nothing to do with hedonism and many atheists have ideals outside of self-interest.
I don’t like that CZcams recommends this to me. The algorithm knows a little too much and it’s uncomfortable.
😂😂
better than some miley cyrus songs or whatnot
The algorithm can not stop you anyway. So it's knowledge is non important.
@@al-oh8fqmakes it even more twisted tbh
It just thinks you're similar to other people who clicked on this video tbh
One of my favorite lyrics from Radiohead: I’m not living, I’m just killing time
True Love Waits
Latitude 2009 is best performance for those interested.
Now that you’ve found it,
It’s gone,
Now that you feel it,
You don’t.
Those who say they are killing time do not understand its real value.
So am i.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
"The world's still the same size; there's just less in it" - Captain Jack Sparrow
"I'm gay actor Michael Douglas" - Michael Douglas
And many times the amount of people, fighting for the same dwindling resources and opportunities.
@@cheshirehat93 good thing there are enough army and police to deal with any discontent
Nothing to live for or die for.
exactly. so now you must create that something.
U are not nothing.
OKAY BUT ANOTHER PERSON COULD HAVE THE SAME EXACT CIRCUMSTANCES IN LIFE AS YOU BUT HAVE A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT OUTLOOK!!! IT JUST DEPENDS ON HOW DEPRESSED YOU ARE!!!
THERE'S A STATE OF MIND WHERE YOU REALLY CAN'T "SENSE" POSITIVITY, AND EVERY IMMEDIATE THOUGHT THAT GENERATES IN YOUR HEAD IS NEGATIVE!!!
I REALLY BELIEVE IT'S YOUR PHYSICAL HEALTH THAT DETERMINES THE BALANCE OF CHEMICALS IN YOUR BRAIN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT!!! SO GET FULL UNBROKEN SLEEP EVERY NIGHT, RUN FOR MILES EVERYDAY, AND I'M NOT A PHYSICIAN AT ALL BUT I THINK EATING TOO MUCH SUGAR STOPS YOUR SYSTEM FROM WORKING PROPERLY!!!
@@sfridisow185 it's not a competition buddy.
I have NEVER heard someone else express this. In my mid 20's after a string of drug addicted partners, I tried to off myself, and when I was almost done; I realized, this is abandoning EVERYone who suffers, like me and MUCH worse. Compassion for others will give you a reason to live and to protect, look inside, we are built to care for each other, to protect each other from suffering
im glad you are here and ok. you are right too. compassion does give us a reason to live.
This is my reason to live as well
This is somewhat what the Buddha taught.
Bodhicitta
Take care of yourself. Compassion fatigue is real.
This goes back to Nietzsche and the existentialists who basically said without God nihilism is a serious threat, when nothing means anything people start to despair and must be strong enough to deal with the void.
Maybe we should go back to worshipping multiple gods like the Greeks and all ancient civilizations that predate Christianity
So instead of finding true meaning we should believe in religion?
What if religion is a lie should we still believe in it for this false sense of meaning?
That's always been the issue for me Nietzsche never actually found an answer to nihilism so he turned blindly to religion because the only way to combat it that he found was through blindly believing in something.
And for the people that don't believe in religion they never got a true answer.
I don't think that religion answers nihilism. I think the true answer to nihilism is finding our own sense of meaning. What gives us personal purpose.
For exemple i hate working useless in offices and such so i'm on my way to find a job that will give me a sense of meaning like becoming a firefighter or an ambulance worker.
One or the other if i saved a single life then it'll all be worth it and if it's not at least i saved lives.
That's what answers nihilism not religion. Religion is putting duck tape on a problem that's too big to be fixed with it.
@@HeyMomonia Nietzsche despised religion and thought Christianity was worse than the others (because it values the weak and the sick and holds back the strong and the courageous). His ubermensch was meant to be to man what man was to ape and would be able to find its own values, answer to itself, control its impulses so that was his answer.
@@HeyMomoniaYou clearly don't know what true religiosity is, man. Do not think about codes and laws and doctrines, for these are just exteriorities, manifestations. The true religion resides in one's heart, and it is not an individual thing, but rather a social thing: the way you get along with others; things like love and compasion; the desire for peace and enlightment of the spirit; the desire for truth and meaning that is not bound to materialism, but to positive things that makes us human. We humans have a heart and reason: the meaning of life resides in between these two things, I think. I, for example, find the meaning of my life in caring for my family, and working to improve my life and my family's life, turning myself into a better person, and helping others. It requires patience, and many other virtues to achieve this. The meaning of life don't need to be something spetacular: it can actually be something pretty simple.
@@KeepCalmCapybara Those are values that you personally have they are not necessarily religious. You don't need religion to live like that.
Trust me i used to be religious for actually most of my and quit it less than 10 years ago. And guess what? I still hold the same values but without the problems i had with religion.
Like the way they often see women as inferior, the way they treat none believers and gay people, the way they make you believe that if someone doesn't hold the same belief he's gonna end up in hell and be tortured forever.
You don't need religion for this. Hell you can believe in and an afterlife without religion. Those concepts existed way before Christianity or even judaism.
Religion tells you to treat others well but also tells you they're probably gonna end up in hell. Also why do you do good things? Because it makes you feel good? Because god asked you to? Or because you fear hell?
Those are all questions i had to go through and confront my beliefs until i realized i always made my own morals and meaning in life and religion was corrupting it.
Maybe it's not the same for you but i think it's important to have different point of views and show people there are different options instead of telling them if they don't believe the same way i do they're gonna end up in hell tortured forever.
This is another reason I’m glad I didn’t reenlist. There are no noble causes anymore.
When were there? And how is defending Ukraine not a noble cause
@@theslyngl Not my problem plus people in authority always lie when it comes to war. I'm not going to die for Ukrainian or Russian propaganda.
@@theslyngl>there were never any noble causes
>Fighting for Ukraine is the only noble cause
Huh?
@@theslyngl are you posting from ukraine in the field?
@@theslyngl It's a B.S. "war", you need to dive into some rabbit holes and you'll see the entire world is all scripted and they're literally all in on all of it (behind closed doors).
Strange this pops up.
I was born into solitude and 41 years later im still there.
Being of service to people is where im at my best.
A decade has passed since the last time I had any sort of company.
The colour is stripped from the world. Money buys me things I don’t care about and i eat food i no longer enjoy.
30yrs was long enough to fight the inevitable.
Wow man
Cry baby cry.
Inevitable is like a cloud, it passes
You are not you're Body, not even The Mind
Foregoing Self, the Universe grows I
☸
@@CraigStCyrPlusWith a comment like that, you completely missed the point of the music you listen to.
Don't forget: you don't need a government or social system or bad friends to be compassionate and ethical or to exist. I'll be your friend if no one else is wise enough to do so.
We traded a dangerous vividness of daily experience and the full range of our emotions for safety, comfort, and predictability. There are more years in our lives, but they are mostly empty.
last part of your statement kinda struck a cord with me
Sometimes I think life would be much better if we put a hard cap on our lifespan. Like Blade Runner replicants. Let's say 70yo. Having that finality set in stone, people would be less likely to walk around aimlessly as if they're going to live forever.
@@booshank2327 Bruh we already do have that and it hasn't helped a lot
If anything there's a bigger pressure to make something of yourself but since we live in an individualist society, we have nothing to put our lives into except get rich and indulge in hedonism
People who lived a quarter our age built pyramids and cathedrals
when did we trade one for another? was it the industrial revolution or maybe it was during ancient times when we cultivated the arts, built baths and spas, had a sewer system and other amenities and luxuries? humanity's goal has always been to better its quality of life and make it easier
@@user-jk7vp7vn2k That's the folly.
this rings so true with me, 24 years old, never worked towards something I cared for and it shows in everything... when I'm done with uni finally, I swore to myself to not work for meaninglessness anymore and to work towards something and for something that I really care for (in my case, music)
Hell yeah, just be careful not to set high expectations. Often it’s the guilt and shame of not achieving what we feel we should* do that holds us back from enjoying life. I encourage you to accept yourself where you are, be honest with yourself, and try your best. Be mindful of what is in your control and what isn’t. Best of luck!
@@ASteppingStone Thanks man, I tend to be quite the perfectionist, but I think in my current situations, my goals and expectations seem reasonable~ I'll do my best and see how it turns out ^^
We're on similar paths. I wish you luck on your journey. Perfectionism is the enemy of the satisfaction we deserve. Keep going.
@@obsessiforgenb8374 and best of luck to you too~~
As a musician I can tell you music is one of the most vain things in the world, also useless when you see it the right way. If you hope to be fullfilled making music, being famous and having it's pleasures, entertaining masses of people you don't know and you don't care about. Giving them a moment of "satisfaction" in exchange of their money; you're in for a rude awakening.
This is so True. Withot a real purpose, life is pretty much meaningless. You have to know who you truly are and where to go. If you have a gift or a talent, then use that to make the world a better place. It's your duty to do so and you know it.
right
@@sixman2926 *True.
The purpose in life, in my eyes, is to find that something you'd be willing to pass away for. Thing is, there are very little things nowadays that are worthy of your life.
that's the dumbest shit ever, did you even read what you wrote before posting it? mishima's a psycho who could only see things through his biased perspective so obviously his solution was to emulate the samurai he idolized and end everything with him dying. you're not in the middle of a war and even if you were you'd be of more use to your cause alive than dead and left to rot. get your head out of your ass and realize that you don't need a flashy and cinematic ideal to strive for in order to have a fulfilling life - what you need is to LIVE it. whether it's charity, social change, activism, doing something for your local community, creating art or just taking care of your friends and family it's all perfectly valid starting points. sitting in your room and thinking about how you wish someone would give you a sword and hype you up to go to war is infantile
Love for others.
This hits like a truck.
like a rock, a ticking clock...
*BERSERKER!*
I understand the sentiment, and the lack of strong causes is a real one, but this is what spiralled into the negative aspects of Japanese culture. Unnecessary and unproductive self-sacrifice.
Not to mention the exploitation of loyalty and a sense of righteousness by liars and greed.
Finding a noble cause to LIVE FOR is what should be sought after, not dying for one, even if it's a testament to the commitment of the individual.
Giving your life is moment of dedication, living for one is a life-long responsibility.
You just have to make an effort to find a cause, instead of waiting for one to be presented to you.
What he's saying is that there was a time where there wasn't even an effort to make to find meaning. Now it's so hard to find.
I also disagree with you when you say people need a cause to live for and not to die for. Because both are actually connected.
For exemple a firefighter lives for a cause but is also willing to risk his life and die for it.
A lot of the time both are connected and some people need them to be connected.
Of course not everyone an artist doesn't need to risk his life for his art. But even this could also be a cause to die for to some artists.
I do think your point of view is very interesting and positive but i felt it was a little bit incomplete. If you disagree with me feel free to answer my comment.
as far as results go, it went pretty well for japan. they would be living much better lives as individuals if the USA did not decide to pull them down out of irrational fear and for the sake of preserving its place in the global status quo. the USA is doing the same thing to china nowadays. now these people have to grind harder for less thanks to the state of the economy, while you see what the USA is doing to itself lol
i would rather have japanese culture than whatever the hell you call this in the USA any time of the day
mishima was suicidal, and ultimately he killed himself.
I found this out 20 years ago. There's a limit in how much joy you can find in chasing your own selfish desires.
Real happiness comes from a purpose to live for people and causes greater than ourselves. It expands beyond the self.
Its why selfishness and depression go hand in hand. If you want to cure it immediately, stop thinking about yourself so damn much and volunteer your time for others. You can have all the money in the world but hedonism and living for your own sake has no greater meaning.
Even though the uneducated don't understand why this is, they feel it nonetheless. The human spirit craves purpose, dignity, real love and connection to others.
Look at all the centerian communities around the world and you'll find the same. Look at all those people around the world who live a non modern lifestyle, with deep connections with others and their environment.
This is all common knowledge.
beautifully said. im only 19 and im glad im realizing this early on.
im tired and drained of my selfishness how can i change
@@JophielThe you are already much further than many people. you are much further just for the fact that you can recognize it. now what you have to do is be very conscious of it during your everyday life. changing is not about making huge drastic changes very quickly. its about consciously making small decisions that bring you closer to where you want to be. i would suggest you start with kindness. start with kindness without expecting anything in return and i mean anything. be kind to everyone even those who hurt you. im sure you can do it.
Now we've got to figure out: "What is the right ultimate purpose for humanity?"
Be careful, because you don't want to go down the path of fascism, as many have done before.
I seriously doubt that being exploited will cure anyones depression, because I see people complaining about that too
This is better advice than any therapist will give you
Mishima killed himself after trying to spark a popular uprising in front of the japanese Diet, he was wearing an imperial army officer uniform with the sword and everything.
@@cesargonzalez4146 and still better than most therapists
@@cesargonzalez4146just because his attemped "solution" was insane doesn't mean his observations were wrong. Marx is well worth reading even though attempts at full Communism have ultimately failed
@@RongleBringer Nah I'm good thanks
Find me a therapist who opposes finding personal meaning in your life, I dare you.
Mishima was a far-right nutcase throwing his life away for a LARP. That you find him inspirational, is incredibly pathetic
I feel like I got nothing to look forward to in life. No purpose or hope. People prefer material wealth and superficial status over uplifting or encouraging their fellow human beings. I don't care if it's a cliche complaint at this point. This contemporary world has no place for boldness or honor.
hmm very valid. i understand where you are coming from. so why dont you create something to look forward to in life. why dont you create that purpose or hope. if you see others prefering material wealth and superficial status over uplifiting or encouraging their fellow human beings, then why dont you become the change you are looking for. it should always start with you. i think that if you believe in what you are saying then you should show it and other people will follow suit. never give up and stay positive. you got this.
✝
@@sixman2926I appreciate the encouraging words. I will try to gather up the strength to actually practice what I preach and perhaps someday I may feel hope once again.
And kudos to you already for having the strength to use your voice and share your thoughts. It seems many others resonate with what you said. I admire your vulnerability
We are limited beings and to acknowledge that is to acknowledge the world around us. One cannot find tranquility living the superficial life, so the only place for us humans to be is to live beyond ourselves.
I think we kinda recognize historical noble causes as hollow, fighting for honour or loyalty to your ruler back then was a way to get you to fight and die in wars for them or a principle of personal reciprocity, cultural norms about social status and gender roles kept society stable but were also highly restrictive on freedom and our ability to make decisions for ourselves, they also allowed the ruling class to more easily control the rest of society. Religion is definitely still widely available if you choose but many in the west just don’t believe in it as strongly as before. Empires have all collapsed and most recognize they were just a way for a country to enrich themselves off the resources of others. In the present people still believe in political leaders, in ideologies, in materialism as noble causes and while I don’t think these things are bad to support, making them the purpose of your life I think will make you less happy.
The challenge is to find a noble cause in modern society, and really to start I think it can be as simple as volunteering at a food bank or any charity where you can see the effects of your actions, or helping your friends out more, or living a simple but fulfilling life where you can be proud of the work you do, or starting a family and doing your absolute best to help your children achieve their own dreams. I’m not religious myself but I have many friends who have found purpose from just talking to people on an emotional level in church and helping people find their own purpose, or finding meaning in a relationship with a higher power. Ultimately the biggest benefit and downside of modern noble causes is that it’s all up to you and you get to decide for yourself what you are willing to live and die for.
Awesome take. Honestly, I think fighting for a king is still something that's beautiful and satisfying in a primal sense. It's just that humans are easily corruptible creatures, so a human king is just not a very good long-term solution for any societies.
@@quanganhdobui1432 Yeah I agree with that, monarchies and "great leaders" have a sort of romantic or nostalgic feel to them and they always make for cool stories, even if the reality is different.
Sorry but we are not solipsistic.
“For you have made us for yourself, oh God, and our hearts are restless until they rest in you.” -St. Augustine
I will not rest until I am returned to nothing. Damn God and his despotic ways, forcing me to exist in his sub-par reality. Also, why would I want to rest inside God? Isnt he a dude?
@@GnosticAtheist Well said my monocled atheist friend. I'd award you a reddit gold if I could. *tips fedora*
@@GnosticAtheistGod is a father figure, if you ever understood, reasons why he says he is father God, and none come before him, He created everything even the Devil, and you and the devil free will, and he says repent or be cast out on the day of judgment in the place devils fear, a black and blue hell forever.
That's why we can't be at ease for long while living alone with ourselves. We were made to be in fellowship with the Sublime, Supreme, Beautiful God-- anything leds than that won't satisfy our souls.
Noble causes are but the shadows of His ways cast upon the Earth. May we awake to seek Him, and in Him find what we were made for. That's what Christ meant when He said "for he who keeps his life shall lose it, but he who gives his life for my sake, shall have it". Living in oneself is only a kind of dying, as the video suggests; but following Christ, even to the point of giving up of the comfort and ease of our life to instead better conform to His way of seeing what really matters, will give us a life truly worth living, worthy enough for an eternity of living.
"You should remember the words of the Lord Jesus: ‘It is more blessed to give than to receive.’””
Acts of the Apostles 20:35 NLT
God bless yall. Stay loving others, of course, yourself too.🙏❤️
He is right. But Japan has been very suicidal society for long time even today
One of my favorite mishima clips ever. I recommend for people to watch the whole video if they can.
He was an ultra-nationalist nut and Imperial Japan supporter. Meaning he supported Japan committing numerous horrendous crimes against humanity. Not a good guy but weebs give him a pass 🤦♂️
Mishima was a racist and a reactionary who wanted a return to Imperial Japan. Meaning he supported the commission of numerous despicable war crimes. Not a good guy yet weebs will give him a pass 🤦♂️
@TrueEnglishMan01 Now tell me are you holding the countries you praise accountable for there horrible acts against humanity?
Only idiots label people like mishima down to "Racist" he was very cultured in many languages and countries, NOT just japanese. You should relearn your history from a not one sided perspective.
needed to hear that right now.
thanks for posting this.
Yup
Very true. There's ways though to create a noble cause such as craftsmanship, self discipline, good leadership and integrity at many stations still.
However it seems like there's a trend toward ending all harmful things which increasingly have broadened in scope. The powers that be seem to have settled on a few noble causes to end all noble causes: the ending of death itself, homogenizing the world and reducing everyone into harmless consumers that don't get into trouble.
Like, I think there could be a safe-ish society where there minimal senseless violence, but there needs to be an edge somewhere, a culture of self discipline involving physical and bookish education, festivals that celebrate nature/processes that support the society, etc.
Utopia! A world without suffering and everyone lives! Kingdom of heaven on earth, hallelujah!
*"homogenizing the world"*
Ironically, the people who are the most fervent pushers of homogenization parrot "Diversity is our strength".
I genuinely cannot name a single thing in today's world I could die fighting for.
so create that thing then
yea, same
why not fight for freedom and democracy? not sure where you live now but in the u.s. there has no choice in presidential candidates, the eu is governed by the unelected council, china is governed by the communist party, and everywhere in general is corrupted by the rich bribes being legal(or easy to say aren't a bribe). Just saying, your kids might enjoy a world where they can vote and afford a house. not just be a slave (atleast slaves used to be housed for free without worry, debt slavery can barely offer you a mattress without the security it won't turn into a sidewalk)
If you live in a first world country look around you
@@gloop32 and see what? Radfems, lgbtqwerty+++ 🤡, homeless people on the streets, veterans being treated as traitors, universities indocrinating our youth with destructive ideas and harmful narratives, aliens skyrocketing the crime statistics? The west is a decaying empire, it's not worth living in here anymore let alone dying for it.
Thanks Sixman for sharing this. I needed to hear this 🤝
He hit it on the head.
INDEED. Thank you for posting this. 🙏🏾💛🕊🦉
Out of context this seems like a very deep and insightful message. Mishima though, while a great writer, was someone conflicted with his own inadequacies, or at least a perception of inadequacies. Watching his mentor go off to war, and told that he was the future of Japan, then being denied service to Japan due to a misdiagnosed illness. Has all the makings of a man who felt like a failure after being drilled into his head all the Imperial propaganda and belief that all others were inferior.
This is a guy who was made to believe that the fascist Japanese Empire was the only thing to live for and when that illusion crumbled so did his mental state.
atomic arms good
Appreciate the context. I think the principle is still pretty noble, but even noble instincts can be misdirected towards terrible ends.
His immediate postwar writings are mostly introspective and psychological. His work didn't really take on a political character until 1960, fifteen years after the war. So it was not the immediate experience of the collapse of the Empire of Japan that colored his beliefs so much as his disillusionment with the postwar society, just as he implies here. As for being conflicted over his perceived inadequacies, that's true of everyone, so I fail to see how that invalidates this message in any way.
you clearly dont know Mishima OR more likely you are a lib/leftiard that want to undermine his works.
Guy sounds "deep" until you realize he literally attempted an abortive coup, then gutted himself screaming "tenno heika banzai"
After reading through I have come to the conclusion that this is the most midwit comment section I've ever seen
ur so cool
Yeah. It's a little concerning.
this video came to me at the right time, i've just cried and feel realigned on how i want to live, thank you.
Shocks me how people who are so filled with self loathing speak with such authority on the meaning of life. If you dislike yourself so much that you cannot stand to live for yourself, then call it what it is. Trying to make it some noble thing that you lack enough self esteem to live for yourself is what I dislike.
Hes right, how do you 'live for yourself' anyway? People generally live for their families and god
he said it here that you cannot live for yourself, you might have missed the point
I have always passionately hated John Lennon's "Imagine", even before I understood why. And this is it. Louis Armstrong's "What a Wonderful World" was a far better hymn for world peace.
Stay away from negative people and don't let them try to control your actions, and that includes family and peers. Are they truly trying to support you and your cause? Actions speak louder than words
This is an interview with Mishima. As far as negative people go, he is definitely up there
First time seeing Mishima. Thank you for uploading
I've never had this problem. This guy also neglects to mention that these "noble causes" often used to be the perpetuation of the continued existence of a landowner/noble figure who lives more lavishly than you could ever dream to.
Die for love like Jesus the way, truth, light.
That too is meaningless cause you won't get that love back.
Love is not a transaction, law is. The Gospel is rich in this message. Love triumphing over law enabled by self sacrifice of the indebted. Rest assured that the gift of Gods love is free. Try to earn it and you will fail. Once saved by belief one is given a second nature born of God who is the one who lives as Christ in love and will never die and who is in contention with the old man who is born of flesh and cannot but sin unable to overcome the law.
@@ultimatebonus8072But that would be a long term message, the matter is earthly.
People have two lives. The second one begins when they realize they only have one.😂
Didn't know he was so close to modern era
yep. this interview was in 1966.
@@sixman2926Where can I find it?
Democracy would require and be composed of noble causes..
.. _If it was an actual democracy_
Alas, the ideal always falls short of the reality. The will of the people, distilled into action and momentum would be beautiful. However, our slovenly nature gets the better of us, and we defer power and governance of our lives to charming misanthropes.
@@paganofthenorth448 Mass democracy can never work. In fact, the original architects of western democracy never seriously considered a system with universal right to vote.
@@erebus79 Very true, the quality of a democracy is entirely dependent upon the quality of its participants, and the maintenance of quality inherently requires discrimination.
@@paganofthenorth448 even with that its still one of the worst forms of governance. nothing really can be accomplished because eventually sides split and you just go back & forth so doing anything takes 10x longer than a monarchy, for example. monarchy with the threat of rebellion is one of the best forms imo, because to change leadership people do have to be willing to vote with their lives and until then you get a unified & strong moving government
Democracies suck. That's why America is a constitutional republic.
For a moment, I thought I was on the wrong side of CZcams.
Perhaps nowadays, to "die for something" means to let ALL other possible future lives that one MIGHT lead cease to come into form, for to allow a single, unique life to emerge in service of something.
and i think thats worth it
@@sixman2926 goofy ahh take
@@mr_phantastic look at this goofy ahh
Hmmm, very calming in a way.... nice, thank you!
It's always been something that makes me cry, when I pondered on whether I'll die a regretful death over a life wasted.
Ultimately, self-improvement is self-fulfillment. The many grievances we had in life, if we can diminish it bit by bit as we go on, maybe then we can leave satisfied. A noble-cause doesn't have to be something big that affected everyone, I think living true to oneself is already a noble enough cause you can do for yourself.
I randomly thought of this video (I'd seen it in a montage) and 2 hours later it's on my home page. They're in my head; get them out please.
My life was already considered meaningless or evil because I'm not religious.
What is it to me that some people may feel my life is meaningless because it's not "spiritually fulfilling" like this person says.
At the end of the day, spirituality is about as tangible and meaningful as you feel it is. We're all gonna shit ourselves when we die no matter how much spirit or noble cause we pursue.
Finding a value that transcends oneself... Where is this guy getting this all from. What manual of the universe did he stumble on and why isn't he sharing it with us if it's so true with such certainty. Why does it specifically need to transcend one's self. What if I held an ideal that I am a god. Does that transcend me? Does that make my life meaningful if I strive for all my years to be seen as a god?
At the end of the day, this video, all religions, all forms of society, it's all just guesses at what is "good for us".
Nobody actually knows. Anyone who acts like they do is trying to sell you something, or trying to make themselves feel better.
And the second you actually put this guy's logic under any form of scrutiny it disappears into thin air just like the breath he spent saying it.
Ayer fan detected. Opinion rejected.
Good post. Mishima makes baseless assumptions that people here seen to accept unconditionally.
I am glad to have listened to this man's words, it reaffirms my views that I must start a family and that all the self improvement that I am doing to become the best man I can has to be directed to serve others and to live and die for a cause, which undoubtedly will be the family that I'll form in a future
It gets your mind directed right but it's no guarantee of any success.
worked for me, family truly cured my depression and makes my life not only bearable but worth fighting for.
Life nowadays is better in allmost every way. Its just we now have more time to think.
For those who don't know, this is Yukio Mishima, one of the more colorful characters of postwar Japan. He was a famous writer, still considered one of the best and most important japanese writers to this day. He was also a strict nationalist and imperialist (and probably a closeted homosexual), and thought that Japan should return to being ruled by the emperor.
He and several of his followers infiltrated a military camp, where he stood on the roof and held a passionate speech to the soldiers about how Japan had lost its way and needed to return to the old ways. He hoped this would inspire the soldiers to start a revolution. Instead, they only laughed. So, he went inside and commited Seppuku.
Anyone curious with his work, I recommend "Spring Snow", "Runaway Horses", "The Temple of Dawn", and the "Decay of the Angel". It's a fantastic tetralogy which chronicles the decline of Japanese culture. Beautifully written books that will break your heart, even if you're not Japanese.
@@maxn.7234 Even in English translation some of the most evocative of baroque mental imagery I've ever experienced in reading anything. Movies and popular entertainment will never reach these certain levels and should be discarded as the standard, thankfully it seems they are with their downfall in importance with how things are going. Hate that I even lived far back enough to acknowledge that honestly.
I wouldn’t consider him closeted at all; Confessions of a Mask is still one of his biggest works
@@elijahtate2370 Right, but he was also married to a woman and had children with her. I think it's something he struggled with his entire life.
We must devote ourselves to something with a purpose!
Bittersweet relationship and fondness for Mishima. I love his work and find him to be really interesting despite the obvious problematic things. He'll always fascinate and inspire me.
I guess that's what he meant by invading a military base and failing to encourage a coup and then killing himself.
This is why narcissists are always miserable
true. i never thought about it like that.
Most famous narcissist/people with aspd have had groups of friends. Even they, as self centred as they are, can’t be alone
nope
I just spent a year people pleasing and boy am I not miserable at all
actually they have their own personal ideals that can fulfill themselves ofcourse based on self centered motivations
wonderful interview
I've found that I'm always happiest when I'm sharing in joy with friends or family, cooking for loved ones, helping friends with projects. Stuff like that, I think it's the closest thing you can get to that idea of not living for yourself. Trying to use what you have to help those who've helped you or care about you.
Stay loving🙏❤️ God bless you.
CZcams sometimes recommends you gold
Or you can just be strong enough to live for yourself
Hedonism: Am I a joke to you?
本物の快楽主義者は他人を愛して他人に与え始めるだろう。そっちの方が幸せだからだ。笑
Not just humans, even robots like Zero felt the same way after his love interest died
We are a hive, we die the hive lives on
As long as people exist, a noble cause exists
Well -- as long as *my* people exists ;)
"...anyway, make sure you aim at my fucking neck Morita"
Even when we had reasons to die for something, it was to serve politicians. It's hard to say that you died for your country when people are filling their pockets with the contract money from weapons sales.
The truth is always a noble cause. Simply fight for the truth even if you don’t like the truth.
Go with Christ, my friends.
I'd rather fill my head with other things than fairy tales.
@@whoareyoutoaccuseme6588 God be with you, friend
You can say that about anything, like Dirt Clump is lord and will admire your virtues with reward or whatever. You're still going to die and pass into unending unconsciousness and Dirt Clump isn't going to make that not happen.
Surely protecting the environment or helping homeless people are noble causes, no?
It's so true! It's an ebb and flow. If you feel useless you're probably just tired/burned out. Don't worry, people will give you support, as long as you don't try to act above where you are, i.e. try to act helpful in order to virtue signal because you feel down. That's the problem. Stop worrying.
I go through a lot of what he said. One thing I thought was missing was about how utterly boring and insensitive everything that you used to enjoy becomes if you haven't found an ideal to go for. And then you just feel a little more dead every single day. But you just can't find that higher ideal because you see BS everywhere you look, from governments to religion to companies or whatever. And then you fall on a doomed loop because you're already exhausted of the things you used to care about. It's tough. Not, trying to figure out where your next meal is coming from tough, but tough in its way nevertheless. It really puzzles me when I see my well adjusted friends and colleagues enjoy the day when I'm just dreading it and wanting to go to bed to see if next day will be better when I know it will not.
He said more than a whole half century of babbling philosophy.
It’s amazing how the most profound messages can be said so simply when your motive is conferring wisdom rather than masturbating your intellect
This is not the case, this man and every person alive is shaped by the world around them, it is likely this man understood many philosophies and read many words and with this he was able to compress his present thoughts into a simple sentence, where as the philosophers of old had to write long scripts to describe a new concept they were discovering.
@@tj03297his motive was for the emperor and mishima is a fascist. He has motives and politics and agency. He wanted to undermine democracy and reinstate the emperor. He is strong on dying for nation states more specifically in japanese
@@polkunus Good.
@JophielThe The Bible isn't written in simple words. That's why there are thousands of Christian denominations and abrahmic religions, for that matter.
loved it
Sometimes, we must learn instead to shart harder and more powerfully.
Mishima is half-correct. It is true that humans need something to live for in order to survive. Viktor Frankl also delves into this phenomenon in Man's Search for Meaning. Mishima errs in equating meaning solely with a reactionary and nationalistic mindset, which ironically drove him to suicide.
i live for self pleasure.
i pray for you
@@sixman2926 which of the 600 deities do you pray to?
That's the spirit!
THIS!!!
That's good for you. Love yourself first. Once you find your love, then you'll be the one who will pour it for others.🙏❤️
0:40 democracy has indeed become the ideal in itself, which is to say it has none, but it used to be a means to enthrone higher ideals. Fall of the republic and all that.
The only reason I live is for others. Not in a negative way, but it motivates me to help, knowing I can make a difference to at least one person that needs it.
This is what we call "foreshadowing"
Everyone saying that there are no causes, what the hell are they talking about? Society desperately needs people who get to work for noble causes if we want to continue with a future, whether cleaning beaches and rivers, planting a tree, helping animals or poor people, examples are everywhere, we don't need a fucking government, religion dynasty I don't care, they're all the same shit. The examples of your help can be applied everywhere, sacrifice yourself for something worthwhile, create your own noble cause.
He was most likely cluster b if we’d speculate him now. Charismatic, charming, intelligent, fun, dramatic, smart but super insecure and unstable. Don’t get me wrong I love his writing
i can fix him
I think working for our family can be categorised as a noble cause in this modern day.
He’s explaining spiritual needs, something we forget about in pursuit of physical needs.
W piracy honestly
its my content now
thats him in the video
@@chrisbann5557 you always understand me
@@sixman2926
Hey man. I just want to say thank you. And remember. It CAN be done.
Musashi did it.
@@OmarBaassiri-wd6wc haha. musashi is a huge inspiration to me.
We’ve also “beaten the game” of life/history in that there are no more frontiers easily accessible to a lot of people to drive technological/civilizational advancement, and a machine or app can do everything for us, so we feel like there’s nothing we can do anymore to contribute
Crossing the Atlantic was not easily accessible to a lot of people, going to the moon felt like an impossibility for the longest time. I think it's easy to look back and see how much people have done and think "oh of course they did that, everyone knows it's possible". But it didn't seem that way back then. I agree that most people today think we have beaten the game, but I don't think we actually have.
I think this is actually because corporations have made everything illegal...everything these days is "proprietary" or you must work here to use it. Back in the day if I had an idea for making my accounting book better I could just do it and it could spread through the country, nowadays I'd have to reach out about the bug to quickbooks, then have 100 other people agree with me online for them to look at it and say maybe we will fix that bug you all complain about...then 2 years later maybe they make the tiny change. We just can't work together because of all the barriers designed to keep money at the top. :/
@@michaelsmith953 Exactly this, there was a time where competition was great for innovation, but now it's just meaningless intellectual property consolidation with the top few conglomerates stifling new ideas to disempower competitors. Normally regulators would step in with anti-trust laws but we all know how well-oiled the corrupt public-private revolving door is these days :/
corporations and governments artificially create a scarcity of labor. ever wonder how in a world of plenty engineers and scientists are mostly unemployed?
like 1/2 of the world's population still suffers from extreme deprivation. There's a cause for us right there. Why does ever-increasing convenience for those of us lucky enough to be relatively well-off have to be the goal? there's nothing noble about decadence if it's withheld for the minority.
In peaceful conditions, the warlike man will attack himself.
thank you so much
This assumes that the inverse doesn't exist.
There are people who live selflessly. Always giving their best for something that they believe in with all their heart. Only for them to get desensitized that no matter how much they give, no matter how much they sacrifice, they tire of living for others.
Striking a balance between both is hard but its what should be striven. Afterall, living for something wouldn't work if you don't live for yourself.
I always wondered what motivates people to go and serve in army. This is. But they dont know. Lol. Thank you
Well, a lot of my peers say their “why” is money, education, and uninspiring benefits like that. I feel I’m the only one who says I always wanted to be up there, so it’s always a bit disconcerting for me.
Hope everyone doing good and staying safe. If you need to talk to someone or need help, there are people who care. Sending support and hearts. ❤️❤️❤️
Standing alone in the dark, eventually everything fades out and disappears...
Bars 👏
Jesus Christ
Many of you in this comment section only just discovered humility… and it shows.
Well explained!!!
He tried a coup d‘etat to restore the former empire and killed himself afterwards. That doesn’t disprove what he says; but it‘s an important piece of context to now he was an extremist nationalist.
It’s an important piece of context to know he WASN’T A HYPOCRITE!
Yeah it was a good thing he was an extreme nationalist. Also his seppuku showed he actually meant what he was saying
@@xinzlo6101 He rejected democracy in favor of an empire that commited atrocities of an unforgivable level
The erosion of values inevitably leads to purposelessness, aimlessness and surrogate pseudo values in ideology and mindless activism
"I came that they may have life and have it abundantly."
I really wanted him to just totally loose his crap towards the end of the video and go off on the dogs barking.