Hi Sahaj, thanks for the vid. I got the 7.5 cm extention and its good. In order to get the longest extention, it would be a good idea to sell "curved" extentions, like the real helicopter or jet fighter controls. Best regards
Hi mate bought one of your small black extension 7.5cm I think it arrived 2 days ago. Got my stick on a centre bracket and fitted your extension couple of days ago makes a massive difference , so accurate . I highly recommend them thanks very much.
I badly need a green spring to reduce the centering tension for my new warthog, but I don't use PayPal. Please provide a payment option for non-PayPal users!
The warthog could have been one beastly joystick. But like everything made by Thrustmaster outside it is the perfect joystick, but inside, like Clarkson put it, it`s made out of spit and cleanex. I wonder if the extra pressure put on the shitty plastic ghimbal does not make it crack. Also be careful when using electric screw drivers because it is a high risk you can strip the crappy screws they use..
I am not sure I understand? What is your goal you want to achieve? Blue spring is the strongest/heaviest - green spring is the softest and therefore also the lightest.
I've installed the blue spring with the 20 cm extension: The blue spring is very squeaky. I noticed the stock black spring was extremely lubricated, and I didn't notice any instructions for your springs regarding lubricant, so I added none. Recommendations?
Strange, first such observations that I register. Did you remove the plastic cylinder? Write me a PM via my website. Ceramic lubricate is ok to use. S!
Hi Chris, it depends on your personal flying preference. Some guys like a strong centering force, the others like the soft and precise control which is more comfortable for your hand. While 'on' with one of mine 10 cm extension I would recommend the RED SPRING to keep the force similar to the original Warthog centering force without the spring the movements become softer.
This says I *can* get one of your hoodies to keep the stick dust-free. Can I still replace the plastic cylinder? I notice it's not replaced in your installation videos.
You can keep the plastic cowling on with the original spring and the green spring. When a red or a blue springs are installed you need to remove it since the springs are bigger. To be honest I removed it even with the original spring since it caused some friction.
@@Adriansdr07 Yes. Like I said. The real aircraft doesn't use springs, so putting springs on your joysticks is not going to make it feel more real. It's as simple as that.
@@ciri151 Aircraft do have aerodynamic forces putting pressure on ailerons and elevator, so they do have centering capabilities. Helicopter however doesnt.
How come you have to remove the plastic dust cover (thus exposing the innards) - can you not just replace the spring (green in my case) and put the cover back on like stock? Or is there some fitment issue?
Hi Jon, thank you for stepping by. The green spring is just smaller and you can leave the plastic cowling on the base. With red or blue spring you have to leave it out as the springs are bigger. My dust covers will protect your flying gear from exposing the innards.
I wish there was a spring that was lighter than the original spring... Like a lot lighter.. I'm going to have to remove the spring from mine as it is just way too stiff.
You can build your 40 cm setup from two x 20 cm pieces, that works great as the tubes fit in together perfectly. (Check Best Deals tab on my website) Additionally you gain more options as you can switch to a 20 cm setup.
VERY cool VID! I just purchased this HOTAS (waiting on delivery). Would one of those 2 stronger springs installed NOT overcome the issue of "stiction"? I am hoping NOT to have to take mine apart and do the sanding bit.
Many of us Warthog users have the joysticks placed on our desks, where its standard height is about as high as you would want a joystick to be - any higher, and it results in an unnatural arm position that would cause discomfort and controllability problem. So adding any extension means that another, lower placement of the joystick is necessary, on some special platform or chair extension (or if long enough, on the floor). That's not an option I have in my office. So Sahaj, I think that there is a huge market for folks like me who simply need the large centralizing spring reduced in stiffness. (I tried the solution that I saw online of replacing the four smaller springs. It made no difference - they are so much weaker than the large single spring, so can't possibly work to reduce the overall stiffness.) Since you already sell such springs, albeit to increase stiffness to counter the longer lever arms of your extensions, it would surely be simple for you to offer weaker springs (maybe in two stiffnesses) and increase your clientele significantly, since I suspect that most Warthog users want more controllability, but with unchanged dimensions. You'd reach a far more mainstream market while doing something that you already know how to do. How about it?
Hi Jack, Yes, I am seriously thinking about it. I will be exploring the option in the beginning of 2018. Still, I recommend to try out the 7,5 cm piece, it will drastically change your Warthog experience so far. S! Sahaj
Hi Sahaj: I tried placing my joystick on a 7,5 cm pile of books to simulate what a 7,5 cm extension would feel like. My forearm angle, from elbow to hand, slopes up too steeply to be comfortable (the large standard Warthog is already higher than I would prefer). And since I don't want to construct any separate lower platform attached to my desk or chair, the extension is not really an option for that reason. Enthusiasts building dedicated flight sim rigs will naturally look to buy your extensions, but I suspect that there's a much larger market for those who, like me, want to fly simulators from their usual desks. We love the Warthog's design and quality, but find its stiffness an impediment to smooth flying - an impediment that I'm sure can be solved by using a less stiff centering spring.
Have you thought about using table mount here *czcams.com/video/kN83TQoI-bk/video.html* It could lower the hight of the stick enough to balance the problem out. If you don't mind the cost that is. I suppose it depends on how much of an enthusiast a person is.
Hi Sahaj, thanks for the vid. I got the 7.5 cm extention and its good. In order to get the longest extention, it would be a good idea to sell "curved" extentions, like the real helicopter or jet fighter controls. Best regards
Hi mate bought one of your small black extension 7.5cm I think it arrived 2 days ago. Got my stick on a centre bracket and fitted your extension couple of days ago makes a massive difference , so accurate . I highly recommend them thanks very much.
40cm extension and blue spring centering at 2:35. 20cm extension centering at 2:05. Must have put two extension together for 40cm.
yes, exactly, correct observation!
@@sahajsahajdaczny2463 Do you have and can provide a longer connecting line?
@@hirsute_owl yes, of course
yes, two 20 cm extensions together
I badly need a green spring to reduce the centering tension for my new warthog, but I don't use PayPal. Please provide a payment option for non-PayPal users!
Hi -AV8R- please contact me directly: Sahajdaczny@hotmail.com
@@sahajsahajdaczny2463 THANK YOU!
The warthog could have been one beastly joystick. But like everything made by Thrustmaster outside it is the perfect joystick, but inside, like Clarkson put it, it`s made out of spit and cleanex. I wonder if the extra pressure put on the shitty plastic ghimbal does not make it crack. Also be careful when using electric screw drivers because it is a high risk you can strip the crappy screws they use..
Yes
Hi friend, what color spring should I choose to leave the joystick with maximum weight? really heavy!
I am not sure I understand? What is your goal you want to achieve? Blue spring is the strongest/heaviest - green spring is the softest and therefore also the lightest.
I've installed the blue spring with the 20 cm extension:
The blue spring is very squeaky. I noticed the stock black spring was extremely lubricated, and I didn't notice any instructions for your springs regarding lubricant, so I added none.
Recommendations?
Strange, first such observations that I register. Did you remove the plastic cylinder? Write me a PM via my website. Ceramic lubricate is ok to use. S!
Definitely going to be buying an extension. With the 10cm one, does the spring need to be changed?
Nice Gerlach Navigator by the way, I have one too
Hi Chris, it depends on your personal flying preference. Some guys like a strong centering force, the others like the soft and precise control which is more comfortable for your hand. While 'on' with one of mine 10 cm extension I would recommend the RED SPRING to keep the force similar to the original Warthog centering force without the spring the movements become softer.
How did you get the stick extension?
This says I *can* get one of your hoodies to keep the stick dust-free. Can I still replace the plastic cylinder? I notice it's not replaced in your installation videos.
You can keep the plastic cowling on with the original spring and the green spring. When a red or a blue springs are installed you need to remove it since the springs are bigger. To be honest I removed it even with the original spring since it caused some friction.
Do the springs give it a more realistic feel of how it would feel like in a real aircraft?
yes, definitely, you can adjust the comfort level to your preferable preference
no.. the real aircraft doesn't have springs.
@@ciri151 talking about the feeling of the stick.
@@Adriansdr07 Yes. Like I said. The real aircraft doesn't use springs, so putting springs on your joysticks is not going to make it feel more real. It's as simple as that.
@@ciri151 Aircraft do have aerodynamic forces putting pressure on ailerons and elevator, so they do have centering capabilities. Helicopter however doesnt.
How come you have to remove the plastic dust cover (thus exposing the innards) - can you not just replace the spring (green in my case) and put the cover back on like stock? Or is there some fitment issue?
Ah, I saw the answer, OK for green and standard, not blue / red. Do you have to "lube" the spring if you keep the cover on?
Hi Jon,
thank you for stepping by.
The green spring is just smaller and you can leave the plastic cowling on the base. With red or blue spring you have to leave it out as the springs are bigger. My dust covers will protect your flying gear from exposing the innards.
@@jonfitton3021 there is no need to 'lube' the springs.
Can you like use 2*20cm together?
Yes, of course, you can interchange the various sizes. However a stronger spring is recommended in that case. S!
How is the Green spring in comparison to Red/Blue and Stock springs?
It is lighter, more soft
I wish there was a spring that was lighter than the original spring... Like a lot lighter.. I'm going to have to remove the spring from mine as it is just way too stiff.
Actually there is already. I will be introducing green springs soon. Contact me via my website or FB.
S!
Okay cool Cheers!.
@@sahajsahajdaczny2463
Hello, I would like to know if there are softer springs than the default, but to use without extension
@@jota5007 sure, it is the green spring. Check on my website, green spring is softer than the original Warthog spring.
@@sahajsahajdaczny2463 ....yes, but will the green spring return the j/stick back to center with a 7.5cm ext. or do you have to 'help' it?
Can you make a review without the extensions?
What do you mean exactly? There is a separate extension review and there are two separate spring reviews.
Hi Sahaj, do you plan to offer the 40cm extension ? I can only see 20cm on your website ?
You can build your 40 cm setup from two x 20 cm pieces, that works great as the tubes fit in together perfectly. (Check Best Deals tab on my website) Additionally you gain more options as you can switch to a 20 cm setup.
VERY cool VID! I just purchased this HOTAS (waiting on delivery). Would one of those 2 stronger springs installed NOT overcome the issue of "stiction"? I am hoping NOT to have to take mine apart and do the sanding bit.
Cześć, powiedz mi czy można gdzieś zobaczyć na miejscu jak to działa? I czy jest odbiór osobisty?
Hej, obecnie nie ma mnie w Polsce więc będzie ciężko. Działa wspaniale, polecam, będziesz bardzo zadowolony.
You can get it here: warthog-extensions-by-sahaj.com
there is a springs for the standard hotas without extension?
unfortunately not, however I strongly recommend to go and try out the 7,5 cm piece, you will be loving your Warthog!
Many of us Warthog users have the joysticks placed on our desks, where its standard height is about as high as you would want a joystick to be - any higher, and it results in an unnatural arm position that would cause discomfort and controllability problem.
So adding any extension means that another, lower placement of the joystick is necessary, on some special platform or chair extension (or if long enough, on the floor). That's not an option I have in my office. So Sahaj, I think that there is a huge market for folks like me who simply need the large centralizing spring reduced in stiffness. (I tried the solution that I saw online of replacing the four smaller springs. It made no difference - they are so much weaker than the large single spring, so can't possibly work to reduce the overall stiffness.)
Since you already sell such springs, albeit to increase stiffness to counter the longer lever arms of your extensions, it would surely be simple for you to offer weaker springs (maybe in two stiffnesses) and increase your clientele significantly, since I suspect that most Warthog users want more controllability, but with unchanged dimensions. You'd reach a far more mainstream market while doing something that you already know how to do. How about it?
Hi Jack,
Yes, I am seriously thinking about it. I will be exploring the option in the beginning of 2018.
Still, I recommend to try out the 7,5 cm piece, it will drastically change your Warthog experience so far.
S! Sahaj
Hi Sahaj: I tried placing my joystick on a 7,5 cm pile of books to simulate what a 7,5 cm extension would feel like. My forearm angle, from elbow to hand, slopes up too steeply to be comfortable (the large standard Warthog is already higher than I would prefer). And since I don't want to construct any separate lower platform attached to my desk or chair, the extension is not really an option for that reason.
Enthusiasts building dedicated flight sim rigs will naturally look to buy your extensions, but I suspect that there's a much larger market for those who, like me, want to fly simulators from their usual desks. We love the Warthog's design and quality, but find its stiffness an impediment to smooth flying - an impediment that I'm sure can be solved by using a less stiff centering spring.
Have you thought about using table mount here *czcams.com/video/kN83TQoI-bk/video.html* It could lower the hight of the stick enough to balance the problem out. If you don't mind the cost that is. I suppose it depends on how much of an enthusiast a person is.