How to Set a Corner Post WITHOUT Concrete!
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How to Set a Corner post WITHOUT Concrete!
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How to set a corner post WITHOUT using concrete!! Save money, and time...your corner post will be ready for pulling fence as soon as you're done -- no waiting for concrete to dry! And to remove the post, simply reverse the process and it'll come right up!
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Omg the dog in a bag in the background made my day!❤️❤️❤️ So cute!
Very interesting! I watched it right through to the end - great video.
Awwww too precious,my condolences for your loss ,lost my lil pup Duncan Dec last year.Hard it was, to say the least!Glad we got to meet Lil Bit even if only for a minute in the background. Take care ,peace be with you and your family,thanx again for the video....
Without this video I would not have been able to complete the first installment of setting up my posts for my backyard dog fence. That trick with the spare wood sealed the deal. I have had people pull on the posts and cannot believe that I did not use concrete to set them. Thanks so much for this video and all the rest of the good advice you all at Alderman Farms are giving us folks.
Thanks, Jester! Sorry to be so long in replying - your comment was marked as spam for some strange reason. I appreciate your kindness, and for taking the time to comment. ;-)
Thank you! Your dog in the background was making me laugh the whole time. I'm so glad I don't have to use concrete. I've been procrastinating my fence because concrete is a pain and a mess.
Thanks Billy! I can tell you that we've used this method over and over again with great success, but it really works best when the ground is dry at the bottom of the post hole when you set it. It can work otherwise, but I haven't been as happy with the tautness of the post when the hole is wet at the time of installation.
Dog in bag hanging on thr fence post is absolutely adorable
Really glad I looked at other comments as to why you kept your dog in a bag before a comment was made, God bless you dude!
Bloody awesome mate, I'm going to do that this weekend. That will save me heaps in rapid set concrete.Great tip. From Australia
Wow! Thanks so much! Would love to visit down under one day. ;-)
Thanks, Wayne! We've been happy with the results. I need to do an update, though, to discuss diagonal bracing on a few posts which we installed in ground that was too wet - looked dry at the surface, but was wet down in the post hole. Still, the method works well, and even when we've installed diagonal bracing, we've done so without concrete with great - and long-lasting - success. Thanks for stopping by, and for your kindness. ;-)
Just ran across your page due to looking for as much info for building a fenced in 6 acre property I just bought and will need fencing for my horses and perimeter fencing of the property for our 3 dogs. Using no Climb fence and braided wire. Ive learned that the corners are SUPER important as is the straightness of the fence line. I wanna build this fencing right, the first time so I am investing some capital into the materials. This was to secure the corner is great! Thank you very much!
Thanks, Steve. Love hearing about that - what awesome memories, and they seem to be very fresh in your mind. You can see similar construction here in Mississippi, too, and they are as tight today as the day they were set! Thanks again for your kindness, and for sharing that memory.
Great tip, thanks. If you scorch the timber that's going to be in contact with the ground with a torch (or just do it over a fire), the surface will turn to carbon and the post will never erode or rot. Nothing eats pure carbon, so not even soil bacteria or fungus will eat through it.
dang. didn't think of that. that's an excellent piece of advice, thank you!
lololol! o man you had me hooked at PHD...i see why got so many thumbs up..this is classic! thanks for your time & video
antonio griffin hahaha - thanks Antonio, that comment made our day!!! ;-) 'Preciate your kind words, very much!
Great information! Makes sense. I will use this info when we place posts for a driveway gate soon.
couldnt help but notice your lil buddy in the bag, love it , and what a good man taking special care of that lil old dog . just loved it
aw, thank you, Ruth! She was my little sweetheart. She was approaching 18 years old at the time of this video, and she was completely blind and deaf, and totally dependent on me. If she was close to me, she felt secure. I carried her around my neck in that bag everywhere we went. When I started digging the post holes, I realized she might get hurt so I hung her on that fence post - and didn't realize she was in the shot until I was editing!!!!! Ha. #TooLate But I'm glad, because she's gotten so many comments. ;-)
you know what's funny... I watched this months ago when I was researching fencing techniques. I was sitting in bed last night and it occurred to me that I had forgotten how you explained the method of bracing in two different directions.. luckily I found this video again... I've liked it this time (sorry) so I can reference it again..
that's outstanding, JOD! Thanks so much for sharing that with us. We love it when something we've published proves helpful. :-)
You are a wonderful teacher! Very smart method.
maristellagraciella Thank you for your kindness!
You just made my day.I actually lost sleep about that.You have my deep appreciation for the reply.I'm a retired construction worker and a suckered for any little creature that needs love.Have a great day.You are on my favorite list for sure.
aw. thank you so very much! you are very kind
Thank you, Darryl. We appreciate your kindness!
7 years from you posting this, it helped someone, me :) Thanks!!! Sub'd and liked.
that's so awesome to hear! thanks very much for taking the time to let us know that
Thanks!! That is my "Lil Bit," who has since died. At the time of this video, she was 18 yoa, deaf, & almost completely blind. She was totally attached to me - felt secure only when near me - and knew me by smell. She would cry loudly when she couldn't find me, so I carried her around my neck in the little sack you see. I put her there to keep from hurting her while digging the hole. I checked her often between shots. I didn't realize she was in the frame until after the video was uploaded.
Thanks, Jeff! You're mighty kind. Thanks for taking the time to say such nice things, we really do appreciate it.
I havent heard the PHD joke since one of dads old friends passed away in 2009. You brought back some memories!
My dad had 2 rules he would NEVER compromise. 1.) 4 feet deep. 2.) No concrete. During my childhood, I bet we dug over 100 post holes. (Spread over several years time.) Every single one of our posts were tamped using the dirt & rocks we originally took out of the hole. Like you said- STURDY! To this day, I cringe every single time I hear someone mention 'concreting' their posts.
We had to once cause the water table was 3 inches below the ground
You dug 4ft post holes by hand?
Dang..
Respect to you sir.
Only a hundred of dug thousands easy. I'm not even a fencer I'm a carpenter. But I do fences
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Use a creosote post. Those pressure treated posts will be rotten in 10 years. For a while we could not get creosote posts so we used pressure treated. One day the fence was slack and a post was leaning. Shook it and it was rotten. Checked the other corners and they were rotten right under the surface. They had been in the ground 10 years. Replaced with 5 inch pipe. Never going anywhere now! I have a hydraulic post driver and its the best thing for driving steel corner posts and even creosote line posts. We replace a lot of fence that was built in the 60's several years ago and my dad used some electrical poles that snapped off in a storm. Yes they were free but I am going to have to replace them. My dad said those poles would last longer than he would. I told him the other day that he was wrong. He's 90 and outlived the posts. I do believe the steel will outlive me though.
We are so glad you found it helpful! Keep us posted on your progress, and thanks for stopping by!
Thankyou for clearing that up for me as I see all kinds of terrible abuses towards animals on the internet and I always comment as I am concerned , of course, as what kind of person would I be if I didn’t. You sound like a very loving and caring person towards our best friends through your explanation regarding your sweet baby whom I noticed in the background. I feel your missing her as I have lost many pets into heaven. God will watch over them, Thankyou loving and caring person. ❤️😘🙏🏻
Thank you. I don't mean to antagonize you here, but might I suggest that it would be helpful in the future to reach out privately to someone you perceive as being cruel before you publicly accuse them of cruelty? Or at least peruse the comments left by others before the public accusation to see if perhaps the issue had already been addressed? In the case of this video, for instance, if you look through the comments, you'll notice two things: (1) many (MANY) people noticed her hanging there on the fence and asked me about it, giving me the opportunity to publicly explain why she was there, and (2) you were the first person since the video's posting in 2012 to accuse me of cruelty. Again, I'm not trying to provoke an argument, and I sincerely appreciate your taking the time to come back here after my initial reply. You didn't have to do that. Thanks again.
Love the PHD joke! Love this method, too. I wish I had seen your video before I started pouring concrete. I will keep this in mind for next time. Thank you.
Soma Viceroy You're quite welcome!
Love the little dog in the sack.
***** She's gotten more comments than the method! ;-) I sure do miss her.
Hey it's great to hear from you "across the pond!" Very glad we were helpful to you, and we appreciate your kindness!
Excellent idea !! I will definitely use this idea. Thanks for taking the time to share your knowledge.
To prevent attracting subterranean termites to your property everyone will want to only use pressure treated wood. Toe nailing or predrilling and setting some screws at an angle through the key into the post can help add strength.
KungFuMaintenance Agreed!
the dog in the tote distracted me too much lol~ Thank u for the help!
Ha. She gets more comments than the method! I hope you read through the comments for my explanation and her story. ;-)
Thank you Alderman! Great video, thank u for help
Nice to see clever fencing from old timers, they seem to have it down to a science! Was going to ask how Lil Bit was doing but read some comments where you said you missed her. So sweet and kind of you to have her close when she needed you. So sorry for your loss. She certainly made me a subscriber! Oh, and so did your fencing tips ...... Thanks. Keep up the good work and videos!
Rebecca Bates Aw, that's very kind of you. Thanks. She was my constant companion, and I still miss her. Thanks again for your kindness, and for subscribing!
Ha! Good catch. Indeed it is. That is my "Lil Bit," who has since died. At the time of this video, she was 18 yrs old, totally deaf, and almost completely blind. She was totally attached to me - felt secure when near me - and knew me by smell. She would cry loudly when she couldn't find me, so I took to carrying her around my neck in the little sack you see. I didn't realize she was in the frame until after the video was uploaded! ;-) I sure did love that little dog.
There is a better way to secure corner posts on a long wire fence.
Set the corner post and the the next post in each direction so you now have three posts in an "L" configuration. Next get two poles, one for each direction. Secure the pole from near the top of the corner post to the ground level of the second post, forming a triangle. This braces the corner post, making it impossible to move. Next take some heavy wire and make a loop running from the bottom of the corner post to the top of the second post. You could wind it more than once depending on how heavy you want to make the resulting cable Make it as tight as you can. Now insert any bar between the wires to twist them until it makes one braided strand and is tight as a fiddle string. You could also use cable and a turnbuckle.
This secures the second post and you have a corner which is indestructible. nothing can move this configuration.
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always used 3 inch cinder block caps learned this when still a kid from my grandfather many years ago and bet the caps are still there even if post rotted and gone
undeserved now that’s another great idea
I am so impressed with you with your attitude and also how you explained with minimal words, so good. Thank you and God bless you.
wow, thanks so much for your kindness!
As good as they get!
Brilliant video! Good camera angles to show what was going on and your pace of explanation was perfect to follow exactly what you were doing and why you were doing it.
+Scott Todd Wow! Thanks so much for your kind words, and for taking the time to comment. Beginners luck, I reckon. ;-)
dog in a bag at 3:45
+Big Boy Bass Fishing That little dog has gotten more comments than the fencing tip! ;-) She was 18 yrs old at the time, blind and deaf, and totally attached to me and dependent on me. I carried her around my neck in that sack, and hung her there so I wouldn't hurt her while digging the hole. Between shots I would step over there to let her know I was still close. She never whimpered, and I didn't realize she was in the frame until I was editing the video! Oops. She died a few months later. Sure do miss her. :-(
She's in a better place now, one day i will get a phd.
well we know you loved her
I sure did, and the feeling was mutual. ;-)
Nicholas Cowart 😂
now that is wisdom!
Thanks! Didn't originate with me, so I agree! ;-)
Thank you! She was my little sidekick for many-a-year. I miss her terribly.
I am really thankful that you put the effort in that produces your videos. I really appreciate them. Knowledge is truly the key to success !
that's very kind of you!
+arkay49er - I can't seem to reply to you directly. I guess optimally the wood could even be coated with tar. I'm sure more could be done to make it last longer - but I've got posts in the ground that were installed with this method in the year 2000, and they are still standing strong. I'm certain that soil content and drainage matter a whole lot, too. ;-)
Another way is to wedge rocks down on each side of the post,I use a big bar and drive them in like you would a nail.
Don’t ever use concrete to set a post because it will eat away your post!!! A piece of advice is to paint on a 50/50 mixture of used motor oil and diesel fuel to prolong the life of your posts instead of any other sealant that is what the old farmers used to do!!!! You can use secure set which is a foam that is better and cheaper to set your posts!!!!
Love your Tshirt! One of my favorite bands :)
Awesome! I'm glad I kept all those little 2x4 pressure treat "ends". Very helpful, thank you.
So glad you found it helpful!
In other words, the dug hole side opposite of the direction that you will be pulling the body of fence to be, MUST be the natural packed soil/ground 90degrees straight down. Great Vid, great low volume background pickin music. To make it easy to dig your key troughs, use the claw end of a healthy framing hammer. It is much more precise than using anything else. The leverage and digging power of you swinging the claw end of the hammer will accurately go thru the toughest clay/rock/soil. Folks who use concrete, foam, and other fillers in a post hole are wasting their time and money. The best way to set any pole is just the way that Mr Stump Easly and you have demonstrated here. Love the stereo rooster crows at 1:55 min. What's with the lap-dog hanging on the fence in a bag behind you?????? No wonder Toby walked away. He didn't want to get stuck in a bag... Keep it up, I am a subscriber!!!!
Ha. Thanks Timothy. That little dog was my constant companion for 18 years. Scroll through the comments and you'll see that she garnered more attention than the post hole. ;-) You'll also find more of her story in the comments below.
PhD - now that's funmy
Ha. Thanks...it's an "oldie, but a goodie." ;-)
Great idea, loved the distraction in the background, "lil bit, so sorry she has passed, yet, love to know how much you truly loved her,.and she loved you. Warms an animal lovers heart! Also loved the PHD joke! Going to have to share it! lol
Thanks for your kindness! And by all means, borrow away! ;-)
New here and I subscribed immediatley. I love the channel. I am installing a fence soon for my cows and chickens and will use your methods. Keep up the GREAT work
That's awesome, Vic! Thank you for your kindness. ;-)
is that your dog in a bag behind you?
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That little dog has gotten more comments than the fencing tip! ;-) She was 18 yrs old at the time, blind and deaf, and totally attached to me and dependent on me. I carried her around my neck in that sack, and hung her there so I wouldn't hurt her while digging the hole. Between shots I would step over there to let her know I was still close. She never whimpered, and I didn't realize she was in the frame until I was editing the video! Oops. She died a few months later. Sure do miss her. :-(
+Alderman Farms I'm sorry you lost her, they can become just like a family menber. Oh what was this video about, sure was a nice lookin little dog.
+Alderman Farms I'm very sorry for your loss.
Did not know I had a PHD.
+leonard payne See there! ;-)
+Alderman Farms I've also got a public highschool diploma, so with that said i have 2 phds at the age of 20. Not to shabby if you ask me.
Hello from Scotland :D Thanks for posting this video it's just saved me from having a strainer post collapse! I love these videos, All the best for the year ahead!
Thanks for sharing this Awesome tip! I'll be putting it to work this Summer.
Anyone else noticed the animal hanging in the bag on the fence in the background? lol
Ha. Yep, a "few" people. Lol. Scroll through the comments and you'll see that she's gotten more attention than anything else in the video. ;-)
or u could just buy a 3$ bag of concret and call it a day :)
+Michael Gutierrez True, but I'd also have to wait until the concrete set before I could pull fence. ;-)
you don't want to use concert if you don't have to, its like a big cork and frost likes to bit on to it and lift it out unless you keep the top of it below the frost line, that's why home foottings are down as deep as they are
Some places are just a pain in the neck to try to get concrete and water hauled to; good option!
Awesome, Bonnie! So glad you found it helpful. The key is placed at an angle like that basically to make it a tight squeeze to get it in there. It does end up flat, of course, but angling it like that at the beginning also helps by marking out the "hole" to be smaller than it should be, rather than bigger than it should be. If it ends up bigger, it isn't a tight fit and therefore isn't as sturdy. Hope that makes sense!
Hello from a small island off Canada's west coast. Just want to THANK YOU VERY MUCH for the great instructional video on how to install a stable corner fencepost. Because of your clearly described step by step demonstration, I'm confidently looking forward to doing the job of building a fence myself. It makes such a difference to have the physics behind what you're doing so clearly explained.
Will definitely check out more of your videos. Thanks again.
Why is there a dog in a bag in the background?
Aw! He says in the comments it was an 18 year old dog, blind, who enjoys just being around him. He stuck her in the sack to keep her out of harm's way.
Very clever method, but seems like a whole lot of work!
Linda Kingston Thanks for the laugh, I need that!
Thanks! Makes perfect sense! Great idea! I've been building sense all my life and never thought of this or seen this before!
Excellent. So glad you found it helpful!
Love the dog hanging in the bag in the background! 😆
I love the idea of spray-on liner to coat the wood! Seems like it would last forever like that. Thanks for stopping by, and thanks for sharing that great tip.
Good video, I'll be putting your info. into practice next week. Thanks.
Well....you have just made a huge change in my life! This is awesome, thank you for sharing!
Colin Keevil That's awesome to hear, Colin! Thank you very much, and you're welcome, of course! ;-)
Well thank you, Denise! And please thank your friend for us, too. Glad you found it helpful.
Awesome... my Grandpa taught me that trick but I’d forgotten about it until your video reminded me. So thanks for that.
aw. I love that! Those ol' fellas knew some stuff, that's for sure.
Your info will help me so much!
We strugle finding way building fence without cement.
The place we will build our fence it hard to transport cement and others supply. it very expensive.In the U.S.we have everything and it convenience but not in the third world country.
it is a gift from God!!! He send you to share it to us and others who needed.
Thanks for posting.
im sorry to hear about your loved one. she was lucky to have someone so caring. thnx u for the great info, i look forward to more video's.
THANK YOU! Never thought of doing this and I've been trying to figure out a way to keep some posts from leaning that have a hanging weight on them on just one side. This should work great to fix my problem!
I wish I would have watched this video sooner. I think I can still use your advice though. Excellent video. To the point without a lot of nonsense. I'm going to check out all of your videos now.
well thanks very much! sadly, not all of our videos are nonsense-free. 😎
Now I will be looking for a chance to use this newly acquired skill. You are definitely good
Shaukat Ali Thank you very much for your kindness!
Great HOWTO, on our Iowa grain farm we had fences that literally ran for a mile. most have been taken out but I got to put in a few growing up. We had to used a pole at least 10 inches and a second one about 8 feet away in the line of the pull of the fence. We then used a brace between to contain the force of the fence. We set the brace on an angle and then used heavy wire wrapped from the top of one to the bottom of the other. It made an x, we then used a heavy stick to wind up the wire. cont.
MOST EXCELLENT VIDEO !!!! Have no plans to put up a fence any time soon, but I still learned so much, and you explained things so well, and its not that tough to do !Working on getting my PHD now, LOL !!P.S. As a hearing aid user, I REALLY appreciated the time you took to add closed captioning to the vid. Thanks, B&H, Spokane Wa.
hahaha thanks, BB gun!! I appreciate your thoughtful commentary. ;-)
You're most welcome, of course! Keep us posted on your progress.
I love the video, especially the sack hanging on the pole behind you. The little dog looks very old. Your to funny. Thanks for making my day. That's one way to keep loved ones close! lol
Ha. Thanks! Yep, she was 18 years old at the time and died not too long after this video. :-( I still miss her.
Thank you!!! I need to be able to take mine with me since this is a rental property, so this video is going to be very helpful!
Excellent, Shelly! Very glad you found it helpful and took the time to say so!
Thanks, Dennis - we are so glad you found it helpful. It sure has helped us here at Alderman Farms - saved us a lot of time, for sure.
thanks so much! great info. Im a bit nervous because i will be trying this method but my soil is VERY sandy. wish me luck!!
Thanks for the video, very informative. I am putting in a fence this week with 4" x4" posts and 4" x 2" rails on a property in Lancashire, England where I live. I was concerned about the pull on the corner posts when the sheep netting goes up and didn't intend using concrete so this is just the solution. The ground here is heavy clay and very wet at the moment but I have a PHD!
Thanks again.
Glad you found it helpful, and thanks for stopping by to say so!
I love how you teach. I've been watching your vids for a long time now but I'm kinda quiet and don't comment a lot. Just wanted to say this vid helped me more than ya know! Lol First time I helped my dad lay fence your idea came straight to mind! This is an old vid I know so you probably won't see this but wanted to say thank you anyway. Love y'alls live shows too. Take care and God Bless!
That's so awesome! Absolutely made our day. :-) Thanks so much for taking the time to share that with us.
Nicely done video. For areas with poor drainage, you can also set the lower portion with a bag or two of gravel, using the same method of add an inch and tamp down to get the post nice and tight.
Well said, that's lovely soil you're working with. Where I'm from it's very rocky soil, we used to dig larger holes and then pack around the straining post with the stones or rocks - stone age fencing as well, but it was a good job. Now it's all done by hydraulic post drivers. I'm from Ireland, good talking to you.
I learned how to build 4 strand barbed wire fence long ago at the age of 13. My teacher was a 60 year old man. Locust posts. Corner was 3 posts with top rails of locust. Corners were locked in place with twisted #9 wire. Locust lasts for at least a generation. We would stretch the wire for a about 100 yard to the next stretch point.
Well you are most welcome! Glad you found it helpful, and thanks for taking the time to comment.
Thanks for sharing with us. Wondering, if you have scrap metal, that you can use that in place of the buried horizontal stud.
Wow thanks LOL, I have been building fence on my family's property for the last 5 years since I retired from the Army and have been plagued by corner post tilt and fence sag. It never occurred to me to put braces / supports under ground. Thank you for taking the time to make this video. Gotta go fix the fence :) Thanks again.
Just to let you know there are people in England who appreciate your video so much, thank you
So glad you found it helpful, and I agree completely with your belief! Thanks much for taking the time to comment. I appreciate it very much.
Was looking for cool tricks for my posts in the next few days and saw... Third Day!! great video and a great band. Thanks
+Todd Kroeker Excellent! Thanks so much!
The old folks knew how to get stuff done and done right! Thanks for sharing.
Boy, they sure did!
Thanks I set a corner post using your method and it works really Great!!! Was Impressed.
awesome! it works like a charm, if the soil is the right composition. We have LOTS of posts set this way and they've been holding for 16 years so far! ;-)
Wow, Della - thank you so much for your kindness, and for taking the time to share that. So very happy the video was helpful to you, and I very much appreciate your encouragement. Let us know if we can help you again, or try and answer any questions for you.
This is Great! I am a Newbie at installing a fence, but I can do! Thank you. Looking forward to more videos!
Very helpful - just the kind of advice I need. Thank you and all the best!
Thanks very much, not2tees! You are very kind. Glad to be helpful.
Thanks for your kindness...and your patience! We've tried to make them shorter since this one. ;-)
very clever!! I need to replace a couple fence posts and really like the idea of not using concrete. Got quite a charge when your dog walked into view.
Thank you for the tip!!
Glad it was helpful!