How to Set a Corner Post WITHOUT Concrete!
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How to set a corner post WITHOUT using concrete!! Save money, and time...your corner post will be ready for pulling fence as soon as you're done -- no waiting for concrete to dry! And to remove the post, simply reverse the process and it'll come right up!
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Ha! Good catch! That is my "Lil Bit," who has since died (Chihuahua). At the time of this video, she was 18 yrs old, totally deaf, and almost completely blind. She was totally attached to me - felt secure when near me - and knew me by smell. She would cry loudly when she couldn't find me, so I began to carrying her around my neck in the little sack you see. I didn't realize she was in the frame until after the video was uploaded! ;-) I sure did love that little dog.
Your dog is just hangin' out on the fence. Awesome.
Always like a person that loves animals. Nice thing you did for your dog. That will go along way in your life.
Nor Draw Thanks, Nor. Sorry for the delay in responding. This channel is rarely monitored anymore, as we spend our time on our farm channel, found here: czcams.com/users/AldermanFarms Hope you'll join us there!
I followed your instructions to repair fence posts damaged by the high winds we've had recently. Your tip really worked! The posts are now even more secure. So thank you from a wind & rain lashed United Kingdom.
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If you take the time to learn, older people can teach some good tricks.
Bless you for the love and care you gave the little dog.
+leonard payne Aw. Thanks, Leonard. She loved me unconditionally. The least I could do was to return the favor. I appreciate your taking the time to comment here. I hope you'll join us over at our Homesteading channel, located here: czcams.com/users/AldermanFarms
One of my uncles worked for the local power company. When he retired, they were going to decommission his truck so he bought it and a bunch of old power poles that had been replaced with new ones.
If someone was replacing a barbed wire fence, they would call him and he would bring out some power poles. For corner or end post, he would cut them 15 feet long and dig a ten foot hole, lower the post into the hole, and then use his hydraulic tamper to pack the dirt around the pole. For a fence crossing a creek or a mid-fence gate, he would install full length poles on ether side and then install a cable across the tops so they would not spread apart.
You could tension a 5-wire fence and those poles would not shift even a fraction of an inch and since they still had the creosote they were treated with in them, those post lasted for decades.
Thank you so much for this informative video. I think it is wonderful you credit where you learned it. So much practical knowledge has been lost. My Dad could do anything that needed doing. But he has passed without my realizing how precious that knowledge was. Your video made me miss him and appreciate him all over again. Thank you for generously sharing what you are learning.
That's an awesome idea, I have a hyperactive German shepherd puppy in a small suburban backyard and she has destroyed the back lawn by running around on it all day in just 6 months of getting her as a 8wk old pup it's 99.9% just bare dirt now
I need to come up with some very strong but 'temporary' method of fencing off the lawn area so she can't run around on it and pee on it while we sew and grow a new lawn or let (more expensive) turf to get established
The cheapest method I can find is using old pallets (the plain generic ones that many factories leave outside and give away free as firewood) as fence panels and using steel star/Y pickets to hold them up and then maybe using plain wire to run around to top of the pickets to give a bit more height
But I don't have any way of getting the pallets home, plus old pallets like that look odd and ugly if not painted etc for a suburban garden, but I can get a bundle of star pickets and a roll of wire fencing mesh home, but everyone said it won't work because he corner posts will get pulled over when under tension if I their not concreted in (permanently)....your genius tip is the solution, a couple of lengths of 4x2 on each side of the picket and I can still pull the star pickets back out when I have to move at some stage in the future :) thanks for solution
Tommy, thanks for this, great video! I am building a security fence for my home (in Hong Kong), this helped a lot!! I showed him your video to our local gentleman contractor, he'd never seen this method before, so we tried it..... He was so happy with the results he said he will recommend this method whenever he builds a fence for a client!
Also, I have a small fox terrier who went blind and lame, I had to carry her around everywhere in a small orange bag, really miss that dog, thanks for the memory!
Its funny, I thought I had learned all there was to know about setting post. Your video shows that there is always room to learn/ improve. I had never seen the "key" being used, but it is a simple and effective way to solidify a post. Thank you!
Daniel Yadon Excellent! Thanks, Daniel. Please visit us at our "new" channel, czcams.com/users/AldermanFarms for lots more "homesteading" videos!
Thank you, ive just put in seven small posts for my veggie plot, using your instructions - very pleased with myself :)
Hi Tommy, thanks from the UK! I've got two posts knocked down by some punksters so I have a chance to test your technique!
Diamond, finally a video that wasn't telling me to put costly and artificial, concrete or metal wings in.
Excellent, i used this method to put up my fence posts. Worked a charm. Thanks
Great tip re the backside of the post's base hole being straight. Absolutely brilliant video! You delivered everything so clearly, too :)
Asphalt Ricky Thanks very much for your kindness! Hope you'll join us at our "official" channel, czcams.com/users/AldermanFarms
Thanks.
Great tip, and a lot easier than what I've been doing; putting two more posts 4ft each from the corner, with horizontal wooden braces near the top and angle braces from just below those on the corner post to the bottom of the brace posts. Maybe I'll combine my method with yours to make super corners.Renovating the whole perimeter fence this year as well as the one around the garden and grain field. Finally saved enough money to get at it. Thanks much for the video, and best wishes.
Excellent video my friend, thank you from the UK - don't even understand why you got a thumbs-down or two - must be fence erecting companies extremely pissed off with your simple advice! Keep up the good work!
marcjboy1 ha! Could be. That, or people who don't like obnoxious roosters. ;-) Thanks for your kind words. Please join us at our dedicated homesteading channel at czcams.com/users/AldermanFarms Hope to see you there, and thanks again!
BUilding a fence today, this video gave me some great ideas to finish it, and start it..
THANKS!!!
That was excellent, sir. I'm glad I found your channel. I'm a homesteader myself and need all the help I can muster. Count me as a friend.
buffalopatriot Thank you, kindly! 'Preciate your kindness. :-) We've all but abandoned this CZcams channel, but we are very active on our full-time homesteading channel at czcams.com/users/AldermanFarms I hope you'll join us there!
Thanks for reminding me how to do this. Simple and effective!
Great info, thank you. Is there a reason why you chose round posts instead of square? , and do you use a larger diameter for the corners? Thanks
I am planning of making post for my grape vine. I am thinking of using cement for the ground, now I feel lucky to find your channel, It is very practical what you have done with your project, it is really very helpful. I will prepared my post and have nothing to worry about making concrete post. I subscribed to your channel. Thank you.
Maria Morales Thanks so much, Maria! We love hearing that we've been helpful. :-) Please join us at our main homesteading channel at czcams.com/users/AldermanFarms We hope you'll subscribe there for more helpful and entertaining videos. Thanks again!
What a great video. Just what I needed. Thank you very much.
Thanks for the vid. Great tip and I love "lil Bit" in the background.
+Glenn Potzas Thanks very much. I sure miss that little dog. Hope you'll join us on our current channel, czcams.com/users/aldermanfarms where "Life on the farm just got real!" ;-)
The best part was the rooster crowing in the background. :)
David DeRolph It's real life around here! Find more roosters crowing (and other critter noises) at our new homesteading channel, here: czcams.com/users/AldermanFarms Hope you'll join us!
Thankyou very much! I will be doing this all this weekend, because my dog keeps running off! Although i do not have a PHD, so i will just use a shovel. I'll dampen the ground to make things easier.
I will Tommy, before we moved to Phoenix for work we use to do a great deal of canning and always had a large garden. We had fruit multiple fruit trees too. I miss the freshness very much. Take care.
The dog in the bag is killing me...lol
That's a GREAT question, Dan. I have found that the dryer, the better, and not just because of the eventual rotting of the wood. When I have installed posts using this method following a rainy period when the earth is still wet deep down near the bottom of the hole, I don't end up with as tight a fit as I'd like. Obviously if it's wet near the top, it's very difficult to get a tight fit with the "key," too. I've done it, mind you, but I'm not nearly as happy with the result.
I am thinking the same idea ( without concrete), glad to see this video confirmed my idea, and also learn new trick, thanks
Hua Zhou Awesome! Find more of our helpful and entertaining videos at our newer channel, czcams.com/users/AldermanFarms Hope to see you there!
Thanks a lot Tom,Im in the process of building a fence,your video has been very useful.
This is exactly what I needed, thank you.
Very nice. I've just got one post left to put in, but since I didn't use concrete on the other I may just dig them up and do this to them!
5 Stars, I shall be putting this to the test in a few weeks,
Thank You so much!
I like that trick! And I already have scrap pieces of wood that I can use. Thanks for the video.
New Yorker moving to the countryside in Puerto Rico. You helped me man!! Saw that Tigers cap too! Go Canes!!
paul c. Ha. #GeauxTigers :-) I think I read that we have a home/home series scheduled with the Canes starting in a few years. Should be good. Glad the video was helpful to you. Hope you'll subscribe to us on our newer homesteading channel at czcams.com/users/AldermanFarms Thanks again!
hahaha I love your "doggy bag" reminds me of when I used to help with wallabys, we'd carry em in sacks just like that
LissaKaye22 ha. I sure miss that little dog. :-( hey, please consider subscribing to our main homesteading channel at czcams.com/users/AldermanFarms Hope to see you there!
I thank you for the new idea of setting the post solidly without concrete.
James King You're welcome! Sorry for the delayed reply - this is our old channel, and we rarely check it. Please consider joining us via subscription at czcams.com/users/AldermanFarms Hope to see you there, and thanks again!
Tommy Alderman Thanks
Thanks for the video Tommy....enjoyed watching it
Great video. Very clear and concise. For future reference, the "key" may be sometimes referred to as a "dead man". I will subscribe to your new channel. My wife and I purchase 15 acres in south central Tennessee and hope to be living there off grid within 5 years or so. Going up to build about 500 feet of field fence in a few weeks and was looking for a way to avoid having to deal with concrete. This helps...thank you.
@Dabudsta Haha! Yeah, I thought I'd hung her out of sight...until I was editing the video. ;-) That is "Lil Bit," my 17 year old Chihuahua who is stone deaf and blind. She has become so dependent on me that I carry her around in that sack around my neck most of the time. Funny, she hung there on that fence without budging most of the time...she shifted around once to get comfortable. The secret was that every few minutes I'd go over there and love on her a bit and let her smell me again...
Would this method be sufficient enough for a 5 ft game fence running almost 300 ft? Thanks for the video.
Great video! Well done *and* useful info!
Great video. Extremely helpful. Thanks for sharing! :)
hello friend.
if my soil is soft, does it make sense to stabilize the "key" with deep driven stakes on both sides?
thanks
Thanks for the great video.
Question: We want 6' high 4x4 fence posts - how far down do we put the posts? Do we get 8' or 10'?
Good video. LOVE the humor. ("PhD")
+Anton Nym Ha. Thanks very much! Hope you'll join us on our current channel, czcams.com/users/aldermanfarms where "Life on the farm just got real!" ;-)
Awesome Tips, Thanks, Jono, Scotland
Nice instructional! Thanks. I'm curious if the clay content in the soil makes any difference with this technique. We're in the PacNW, where the soil gets a lot wetter. Does this technique hold out with wetter ground? (obviously accepting that all wood rots with soil contact eventually). Thanks!
Thank you for sharing your skills.
Very helpful video. Thank you!
Heather Pettit
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Is the key as strong as an H brace?
Very nice and informative video. I have a question. Can I just use a shovel to dig it or would you recommend actually getting the post hole digger?
Great video and tip. Thank you.
Awesome video, finally someone can explain in detail and easy to underestans! can you tell me approximately how long a 6x4 will last in the ground like you did? thank you
+viktor mentersk Thanks so much for your kind words! Well, if I'd properly treated the board, it would last a long, long, time. As it is, this video was shot in 2012, it's now 2016, and it's still very tight! Hope you'll join us on our current channel, czcams.com/users/aldermanfarms where "Life on the farm just got real!" ;-)
PHD , i love it. Great video
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Great info and I just subscribed! Thank you!!
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Tommy Alderman Consider it done! Thanks!
Sweet trick, thanks
great job thank you
How is your fence holding up now?
I'm thinking about using tailings for my fence instead of cement. Would that be a good idea?
Most of the time i see a fence fall to the left or right. Would you recommend putting the key in those area's also?
Great video.
thanks for this tip.
Gave doggy bag a new meaning
(cont.) and they won't provide the same level of support as the upper two, because of the "fulcrum point" being lower on the post. I hope that makes sense. Thanks for stopping by, and thanks for the kind words!
How is your fence holding up now?
I'm thinking about using tailings for my fence instead of cement. Would that be a good idea?
Great video.
Holding up great! I'm sorry I'm not familiar with "tailings." Would they be diagonal bracing? If so, then yes indeed they will do the trick. I have them on posts we set in ground that wasn't firm enough at the time to use only the key system. Regarding keying in all directions, certainly! A post can be keyed in all four directions if the hole is deep enough and there is enough post beneath the surface, though the deepest two of the four keys will be difficult to install, (cont.)
That's a great trick! Thank you :)
Very good thanks mate...
+Dreama40 Thanks much. Appreciate your kindness. Hope you'll join us on our current channel, czcams.com/users/aldermanfarms where "Life on the farm just got real!" ;-)
I have been looking for a method to anchor the four 4x4 posts of an elevated fort that I'm building for my son. Since he's not going to be 9 years old forever, I'm would rather not pour concrete. I want sturdy, but not permanent.
Thanks for your video. Great work.
+Greg Roberts Wow, thanks for the affirmation, Greg! I can assure you, based on experience, he will indeed not be 9 forever. ;-) I hope you'll join us on our "new," homesteading channel at:
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Hey Thanks!!! "Dead man," huh? That's kinda creepy. hahaha Thanks for the info...always glad to learn about terminologies. Good luck with your property...I hope you'll video your progress so we can follow along!
I really liked that thanks.
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good info
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Great vid
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The dog in bag lol
@Dabudsta ...so I reckon she thought she was still around my neck!! ha. Man, I feel for ya about those rocks. We are blessed to have had a very rainy year this year...our first year here, 2000, was in the midst of a drought, and this clay ground was hard as a rock...a power auger I rented to dig post holes for the barn just spun around on top of the ground! Hey thanks for commenting, too.
I've done something sorta like that. I hammered rocks (I have plenty of rocks on my land.) on the pull side of the post. I havent had a problem with the post twisting.
TheTomBevis Good call. Rocks are awesome, but we aren't rocky at all here. Hope you'll join us on our homesteading channel at czcams.com/users/AldermanFarms Hope to see you there!
Thanks! I've been watching the papers for a deal on an auger that will fit the 3-pt hitch on my tractor. I love my PhD, but I ain't stupid. ;-)
Things I didn't know I didn't know. Thanks
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What diameter post did you go with 6" or 8" and why did you only build a 5 foot tall fence for a garden when a deer can easily jump that. I am wanting to build a garden fence and it would be a lot cheaper to do a 5 foot so thought you might have a good reason.
I was so distracted by your cutie in the bag I had to watch it twice to get the jist :)
J Frederick Ha. Sorry! I didn't realize she was in the frame until editing, and I wasn't about to start over that day! :-) I hope you'll join us on our new channel, czcams.com/users/AldermanFarms for more homestead-related videos. Thanks!
Yep, in that case you double key. In that case, the first key is placed twice as deep (twice the width of the key) so that you can place the second perpendicular. Works just as well in both directions. I should've been more precise in that explanation - sorry about that, and thanks for the question. BTW, we've moved our homesteading videos to CZcams (dot) com / user / AldermanFarms. Please feel free to drop in over there. Thanks again!
Thanks for the tip. The H system with wire would be no good around our horses. Cheers from the UK.
Well thanks, Shadowz - don't look now, but there is a spider on your head. ;-) Thank for stopping by and taking the time to comment like that. We really appreciate. You can find other homestead-related videos on our new channel at youtube (dot) com (slash) user (slash) AldermanFarms. Hope to see you there. Thanks again!
I have trouble with my shoulders so a post hole digger is impossible for me to use. Auger down.
Wouldn't the 2x4 boards (even if treated) eventually rot, so you would lose that brace effect after a few years?
Thank you!
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Thanks, Brooke. We've actually done the same (combine them) on those fence lines with really long runs of fence. It just makes sense to take the extra measures at the beginning, rather than hoping it'll work and having to fix it later. ;-) Crazy how much fence costs to install isn't it?? We're saving our pennies now...and it will take FOREVER at this rate. ha. Thanks for taking the time to write. Find us at youtube /user/ aldermanfarms, where most of our videos live now. ;-)
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P.H.D. LOL!! NICE VIDEO
This is exactly what i was looking for, thanks so much! But also.. Why do you have an animal hanging in a bag from the fence??
+Michaela Day Glad it was helpful to you! Scroll through the comments and you'll learn about "Lil' Bit." ;-) Hope you'll join us on our current channel, czcams.com/users/aldermanfarms where "Life on the farm just got real!" ;-)
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That's a great idea! Never heard of that, but it makes sense. I suppose I could've coated it with tar, too. Oh well, it's in the ground now! ha.
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How is the post holding up now? 7 years later.
Thank you for your kind words. Ha, I guess it is a little off-putting without the explanation! ;-) I was shocked when I edited the video and realized she was on-screen!
Joke at 2:14 is solid.
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Can't argue with any of that, Jack. '-)
A type of deadman. Nice, I seldom think of using them.