A Dry Well for the Detached Garage Workshop? Yes Please!
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- čas přidán 12. 10. 2020
- Since I'm going to be converting the old detached garage into a workshop, I'll need a sink! This is where that will drain to. A nice oversized drywell to drain the shop water.
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Hey, the wood split because the screws are counter sunk head, use dome heat when going through the grain like that... Or you can get inserts where they sit flat in a bored out space under the counter sunk screw head so the wood won't split.
I realise it doesn't matter here... But for when it does.
Hope this is useful to you
You have the perfect skill set to answer a question that could change the history books. Did historians mistakenly identified the first gun ever for a bizantine flamethrower? Did they mistake a fire piston for a siphon? Please, take a look at a modern reconstruction in the link that I am sharing (not my video) and tell us what kind of fuels would be suitable to self ignite by the action of a fire piston at pressures low enough that a jammed bullet could hold before being propelled. So we historians can better research the likely composition of Greek fire. The design seens consistent with modern hybrid spud guns with mechanically induced autoignition. czcams.com/video/cvo6xkr2quU/video.html
@@user-uc1oy3zk4t Unfortunately from looking at that video, assuming the design of the ancient ones matches that of the video recreation, there wouldn't be any very viable method I can think of to make a gun out of that device. A fire piston of that size would require an incredible amount of force to slam and create the required pressures for igntion, this would be devastating for accuracy, and then force would be lost pushing the piston back towards the user as well. It makes much more sense that it was a flamethrower, rather than a crude gun.
When do you have to change the charcoal, as it will not filter forever?
my mum has shaken for the entire time of my existence, 51 years, no parkinsons yet. Thanks for the vid
This makes me think back when I was a youngster(This was in the early 60's) and when me and my brothers would go over to my uncles garage when ever anyone had to take a piss he just had a hose you pissed into that stuck out through a hole in the side of the garage and emptied onto the ground.....Simplicity at it's finest here people.....Oh do I miss the good old days.....LOL.
I worked at a small company that had a dry well to dump all their used oil. Turned into a major lawsuit when it spoiled his neighbors well.
only in America... (or Eastern Europe, China or Africa... Do it in Arabic countries and it'll be considered recycling...)
Wow that's insanely horrible and criminal
He didn’t have a diesel truck or a heater to burn it in? That’s beyond stupid.
@@ElementalMaker Not criminal but sure hard to get a permit for one. The ones I had to deal with needed monthly reporting on TOC's in the outfall and we had to replace the charcoal every year. I'd be very hard to permit where I live but it would work fine and be safe until the charcoal went bad, which depends on how much oil and cleaner goes down the drain.
Years ago as a teen, I helped a plumber pull a well from a ladies basement. The well pipe was 6’ sections driven down to water source. The reason for the plumber was the taste of gasoline in water. Turns out the source of gasoline was an abandoned gas station next door. This was in rural Indiana late 1960’s. No lawsuits back then, just drill a new well and go on with it. I’m Not saying it was the right solution. I’ll never forget it.
I didn't realize Seth Rogen was so smart and handy
*Laughs in Pineapple Express*
Buahahahahaha you're right!!
I can get 30 and 55 gallon plastic drums at work, they use them in the syrup room as the soft drink concentrate comes in them. No lid, only two bungholes.
I'm building my daughter a shed that she is going to use for an art studio and this is perfect for the little sink she wants to clean her brushes. Mostly does water based paint. Thanks for the great idea!
Glad you might be able to put it to use! Pretty damn cool you are building your daughter a paint shed! Now thats a good dad right there.
So the drywell worked for your daughter’s art studio? My wife is a painter and I want to do the same thing for her detached art studio.
Dispite the fact that I have been fallowing you for more years than I know it only took me 5 days to find this by chance .
Sounds about right for youtube 🤔
Off topic...I used your instruction for building a foundry (upscaled a bit). Been very impressed with the outcome! Thanks again for the tips!
Brilliant, in every way. Good and honest too, a man who is not afraid of his vocabulary.
Great job, did the same thing for my last two shops and it works great. No one even know it is there!
I find it entertaining how easy it is to dig holes in some places...here in South Africa the soil is halfway to being rock.
I enjoy your dry humor ; ) Has always I Liked,shared. All my best. When things pick up, I will be happy to become a Patreon.
You would be awesome at making tiger trap pungy stick traps lol. The VC would have loved to have you.
Nice project! The ambient bug noise at the end had me geeking... thinking I had a left a torch on or gas leak LoL. We already had a killing frost up in my parts, guess my ear has adjusted already.
Couple of things I would have done different, from experience.... Same barrel but leave it empty. Vent from the top / side. (not the top / lid) This will allow you to possibly remove the lid to do a cleaning if it's silted from dirt or Go-Jo with grit. (hand cleaner) Pipes can be fitted through the sides using rubber bung style gaskets. (similar to those found on drainage boxes) The pipe is a force fit into those. Run the vent back in the same trench and up the side of the building above the snow line then put a gooseneck on top. While the PEX trench is open, stick in some electrical conduit for future upgrades.
Great weekend project good info well presented
Great job, can’t even tell there was a big hole before!
Love your humor elementalmaker
Wow! That looks like hard work! "What does Lay some Pipe mean Mr Element Maker Sir"? 🇺🇸🇬🇧❤️.
Man your work is clean 👌 👍
Make sure to check with the legality of something like this. This could be classified as a "sess pit" type sewer. I had to put in a tank and a drain field. For a shop you could also run one more pipe to the house and use a pump. Also note that for frost it is more effective to have the insulation move out sideways since that allows the soil below to hold the heat from the summer.
I should have noted that in the video. These are not legal in all municipalities so definitely check all local codes before building something like this.
I’d always wondered how a cesspit worked.
It is a grey water drain.... To be a cess pit it needs to receive sanitary waste from a toilet.
@@davidbrewer7937 exactly. It's gray water. Not sewage.
You do whatever you want man, but I' would've just kept the hole, and then I would've bragged about it to everyone I met.
Such a beautiful hole T_T
Bwaah! Your vocabulary! I'm in stitches laughing. What a character! Carry on! Thx this was interesting.
Good job
Love your videos!
Thank you Charles! 👍
Very nice.
Subed, you had me at brewing!
It's cute you can dig with a shovel. We use a demolition hammer and a spade bit out here in the southwest.
I lucked out with the soil at my house. My parents house is only a few miles across the river and their soil is nothing but big rocks and hard clay.
get my rocks off seeing a guy messing with his rocks... Very nice job.!
Wow on a 1-10 that’s at least a 12
Nice work
Great project, would work for almost any detached building or garage. I think it would also work for a garage urinal, so plan for that as well (no solid waste, just pee & water). My workshop has a waterless urinal and drains to the house septic. Go USA!!!
It always takes longer than I care to admit to realise i'm not watching AVE
AvE :D
Same
You were in rare form on this one! Popular with the teenage boys, it will be.
12:07 If you suffer any discharge, please consult a doctor
I had a customer with a 60 foot frontage on his house and a walkway across the entire width of the house. There was no downspouts on the front of the house to handle the rain water because they would have had to extend over the walkway to deposit runoff onto the lawn.
the gutters would overflow during a heavy rain storm. I devised an almost identical system as yours for two downspouts directed to two barrels. The downspout was inserted into a 4" tee , with a screen, at the flower bed between the house wall and the sidewalk and carried the water under the sidewalk in a 4" 10 foot pipe to the dry well. I drilled the barrel on the bottom and around the sides for maximum dispersion of the water. No charcoal required, but filled the barrel and around the barrel with 3/4" crushed stone and protected with the landscape fabric. Used the same pop-up valve to flood any overflow onto the lawn surface. The two barrels have handled the runoff from half of the 1,600 sq. ft. roof fabulously and the pop-ups have never had to pop to flood the lawn during the past 5 years...and the customer's foundation is very healthy.
Very nice! I have done this for a couple of my downspouts as well to stop my lawn from turning into a swamp. They really do work great! 👍
@@ElementalMaker Many homes in my city built during the 1900 had downspouts connected directly to the sanitary sewer system. This practice was outlawed about 10 years ago and all existing installations were forced to disconnect so that water would be directed to lawn surfaces, at least six feet from the foundations. The horizontal extension pipes created issues for many walkways, but this type of dry well can be a great solution. One could make a very nice full time business installing these here.
That's neat :)
Coulda fit 2- 55 gallon drums in that thing holy heck. Great job.
Wow! What a hole!
"If you get offended by that, you're a loser" hahaha love it, is this upfront attitude that i subscribe for
great video, even just the commentary wouldve been enough for me you had me laughing constantly
11:03 "If you get offended by that your a loser"-TheElementalMaker best quote of 2020
I agree. Man people have turned into big trouble making Pussy's these days.
@keith moore when a hear an sjw type guy start getting whiney I just call them soy boy. Really sets em off 😁
@@ElementalMakerif i could subscribe twice to this mad man i would
@@thetinfoilhatmanbandcarava4003 good news my friend, there's the ElementalMakerB channel 😁
Put a screw in that cap or some glue. I used one of those for my gutter and when I went over it with my mower it was sucked into the mower deck.
Smart 🤘
Not. Bad! I'm facing a very similar circumstance and I'm going to consider this very option. I have another possible approach in mind, which would have greater capacity. But it will involve some, uh, learning experiences that might make it unworkable. Not quite sure what's underground in the targeted area. In the event that reveals itself rudely, I will resort to this elegant solution of yours! I love learning from other people's mistakes. Looks like you've made yours some time since. ;-)
You might consider adding a waterless urinal to your system. Wouldn’t that be convenient?
I also just started work on my detatched garage. Must be renovation season! Well technically i started 4 years ago but my progress since has been negligible.
@Muckin 4on When we doo roofing we get plenty lads to get all the slate off and back on again the same day. Can never trust the forecast! Unless it says its raining then it probably is.
Tooodayyyyyyyy.... haha waiting for more mushroom trip videos. ...
Your voice is almost identical to Country Dick Montana from The Beat Farmers . I had a few beers with him in San Diego in 1982 while I was on leave from the navy . Very nice guy and you seem to be also man . I am going to do this to my new art studio ! Thanks for this video !
Edit : I just had to Sub to ya . Great stuff and funny !
Thanks for your video, do you think this type barrel and method would work for drainage issues?
Shit aye! Got an alert for this video 1 min ago. It’s 10 hours old! Thanks CZcams. You should make a video on making beer. I’ve just started it as a hobby and it’s really damn good.
Great video as usual! Cheers
Already got you covered my friend! czcams.com/video/UBL83Dfz418/video.html
@@ElementalMaker sweet!
Nice.
thats how we did it up north at camp one for the outhouse one for the kicthen sick
Drilly McDrillface got me good! Hahaha
You can wash the bucket out with "Five Star PBW" (aka sodium metasilicate) to get rid of those smells.
I love me some pbw, but for a smell this strong I would have let that barrel soak with bleach solution for a couple weeks and then follow up with some campden. Pbw is great, but wouldn't cut it for this one
We just stuck a funnel through the wall. 😉
You got some awesome dirt for digging into... Here in Arkansas its rock... Red c!ay and rock... But we got diamonds in some of our dirt.. So there's something...
We tried digging diamonds there. It was about 100 acres of clay mud those few days...
@@mwechtal its not actually clay.. its called kimberlite.. its ancient minralized volcanic ash... a 9 year old kid 4 houses down dug up a decent sized one a year or 2 ago.. he called it the superman diamond.. I never find jack
@@stevencrawford2851 Common clay is the decomposed form of the mineral feldspar. When the rock (mixture of minerals olivine, and others such as serpentine, mica, and calcite) kimberlite decomposes, it becomes special clay! It's still nasty, slippery and sticky, but it might have some diamonds or garnets in it.
Looks great! Digging a hole like that around here by hand would be torture with the super hard clay soil we have.
I really lucked out with the rain. Usually the soil here is hard clay as well, but luckily this go round it was quite easy! I think it was about saturated.
Omg dude, i live in (literally) clay county Missouri, me amd my pops rented a post hole digger machine for a fence and holy hell the ground was so hard it like to shook us to death boring those holes... it makes me ache just thinking about it 😆
@@ElementalMaker I live in hard clay Georgia. Moving to hard clay South Carolina.
I plan to be eating clay when the world ends. Yum.
@@SystemsPlanet Rome here.
Your lower back must hurt after all the digging.
No, but his wife's does.... =D
i loved the hair shot. always imagined you were wise and bald...
I've still got a few follicles left!
What?! No timestamp? You farging bastage! I kick you in de Icehole!
I'm part of the og that actually saw and remember his face, and so proud of it lol
@@JohnLeePettimoreIII 10:31
“If your offended by that, your a looser”. 🤣🤣🤣 I’m using that line.
The limestone gravel will neutralize and acid/chemicals.
Bring out the power of Michael J Fox xD
The big thing you wouldn't want from briquette charcoal is the lime which is what causes it to turn white.
10:20 reminds me of the old Aussie proverb - "I'm not here to f@#k spiders"
"Beautiful hole!"
-ElementalMaker 2020
First time I've seen a two wheeled wheel barrow
It's a wheels barrow.....I will let myself out!
From the thumbnail i thought you were making one of those hidden beer cooler things 🤣
I don't know what that is, but it sounds like I'll have to build one of those too 😁
Oh they look like a plant or something but when you pick it up theres like a tube under it that lifts up with like 2 or 3 shelves in it and its basically a camouflaged cooler in the ground
@@ElementalMaker czcams.com/video/mN0qmNFJikM/video.html
@@ElementalMaker love the progress with the rockets btw 😁
@@PhilieBlunt666 now that is pretty damn neat! They just need to build in a few peltier coolers and some insulation!
make sure to add alot of sealing around the foam and preferably some extra rubber or something around the pipe, its so deep ants might use it to get in to your garage.
I used some high density urethane foam. Shouldn't be an issue. And even then my soil has been treated with Taurus SC, so no ants anywhere around this shop for the next fifteen years or so 😁
Principal ingredient in Kingsford briquettes is lignite coal aka brown coal. Nasty.
WE USED AS SEPTIC 50 YEARS AGO.
I grew up with a septic tank, but our neighbors had something like this. I’d always wondered exactly how it worked.
For charcoal filtration you're going to want steam activated. Regular will work, but the pores aren't expanded nearly enough.
I didn't show it in the video, but I also dumped about 3 pounds of additional activated carbon granules in there with the lump charcoal.
@@ElementalMaker awesome. And I really want you to know how grateful I am that you showed care for waste streams.
@@purduephotog Unfortunately in my area we have had at least three major groundwater contaminations from large companies doing their thing. One dumped tons of TCE into the groundwater, another which is now a superfund site dumping all kinds of hazardous waste into their landfill and pocketing the money, and then there was a tire manufacturer near here back in the day which just dumped all their waste. I guess growing up hearing about those incidents gave me a profound respect for the ground water. Luckily my well water tests pretty well, but even so I have a huge GAC filter for the whole house.
@@ElementalMaker When I was a kid, there was a treated wood plant in my hometown. This was back when they still used dioxins! Once Superfund came along, the whole place was dug up and covered over.
I need something like this for an AC condensation drain. Do you think it could handle the steady stream of water? The AC drain soaks the side yard. Grass is water logged.
I do know of people who have used drywells to leech their condensate lines. The sizing would depend on your ac size, climate, and soil permeability. That being said a dry well this size would likely be extremely overkill for a condensate line
Joe ... put a bucket under that drain line and get a feeling for the actual gallons per hour or day. It's likely not that much but needs to be spread out. You might be able to get away with a 5-10 ft piece of perf pipe stuck in a 2 ft trench then covered with a few bags of gravel. 4" pipe is good for around a gallon per foot, volume wise. That means a 10 ft hunk will store 40 gallons of water while it's waiting to soak into the ground and gravel. (probably another 40 gallons there as well) If you don't have access to a small quantity of filter cloth you can use old window screen or hay. Once the soil on top compacts and grows grass it's no problem.
I sure hope you live in a state where those are still legal
Could this setup also be used to drain a small shop urinal into? If not is their something similar that would work for a urinal? I have both a small plastic urinal and small stainless "bar" sink that I plan to install in my shop. I was originally just going to drain them into more or less what I saw used for piss tubes/field latrines when I was in the Army. Which is pretty similar to this just without the barrel. I want to try to keep whatever setup I have to use to be as affordable, simple, and DIY as possible, but of course also be legal and reliably functional.
You'll need to make sure your soil has good enough drainage to handle it, but I would think even the worst draining soils could handle one guy pissing a few times a day. I'd check with local building regulators first, but this should work no problem.
Plumbing is so much simpler when you don’t have to worry about long winters. I have to put my water lines at 9 feet 😭
NINE FEET?! Where do you live, the north pole? Holy smokes
@@ElementalMaker Canadian prairies
Don't forget to put a small grease/oil trap under the sink. You won't be dumping oil down it, but you would be surprised at how much oil goes down a shop drain in a year just from washing your hands.
I've been looking into that, but can't find a small one designed for just a single sink. May have to build one
@@ElementalMaker You can probably build a better one yourself for about $50 (and get a project video out of it), but I just saw a relatively cheap one on Amazon (Yescom, 8lbs 5GPM grease trap for $68). The average prices seem to run between $90-$140.
An oil trap is simple, basically an 18'' W x 12'' H x 6'' D box with input and outflow connections at the center of the ends, something like a screen to slow the flow in the middle, a lid for access/cleaning at the top and if you use glass for the front, you can see when the oil needs to be removed. Oil floats up, heavy solids like pumice from hand cleaner, sand and metal bits fall down and the water flows through.
@@georgeford6056 George now that you put it like that I'm definitely going to be building one! Not having to worry about solids or grease getting into the drywell will be well worth it.
9:44 Hey brother, don't you think it might've been easier to turn the cap upside down and hit it from the back?
Will this be just for sink water ? If I was to make a barrel like this or a leaching field and want to run a sink , and shower off of it how big of a barrel would you need ?
It depends upon several factors. The total waste water per day, and the soil percolation rate. Couldn't really say what you'd need without knowing both of those.
So, how accurate is your new old lathe & will you take viewer contract jobs for extra channel funds/content? I would like to restore my father's old machinist hammer. It has the rubber threaded heads that have disintegrated over 40+ years. I'd like to get brass, bronze, aluminum, & hdpe. If I give the thread specs & head diameter, is it something you'd be capable of & interested in?
Hey bud could you try putting some aluminum oxide powder in molten aluminum and try to mix the feckers and we if they mix and cast something and see what the properties of that thing is?
Would something like this be suitable for disposing of water-based paint? My wife uses an outbuilding as her painting studio and she needs a sink for washing paintbrushes, etc. I can run water out to it easily enough but I’m worried that a drywell clog up with paint sludge.
I dont think this would work for a couple reasons, one latex paint can cause environmental issues, and two the paint will rapidly polymerize in the surrounding soil area, essentially sealing it off, no longer allowing water to percolate into the soil. The best bet may be to get a big drum/bucket for under the sink shes using, and occasionally dump it into a wash basin connected to sewer, or maybe set up a waste pump and some underground pvc pipe that pipes the waste water back into the house / sewer system.
Let me show you my waste pipe, slow down we just CZcams freinds
What we in the UK call a soakaway. We are not allowed to put rain water into the sewer system so it goes into a soakaway.
That's a great name for it! Love that
...given the shakynesss... i have the exact same thoughts from time to time.
So, how does the charcoal deal with chloride and nitrogen compounds? Just askin'
Question ... Why didn't cut you off the bottom side of the tank since its facing the gravel it should start draining as soon as the water gets down?!! right?.......... and why did you put gravel inside the tank.. i thought tank should only be filled with water??!!!
It should still have a pretty good flow rate even with the holes, but the holes will slow it down a bit allowing the water and any contaminants to interact with the charcoal. I could have left the tank empty, but it will still be more capacity than I need. I was concerned the surrounding stone would crush the tank if it wasn't also filled with gravel.
Will the charcoal catch everything? Like idk de-icer or
No the charcoal will just catch some organic contaminants. I will be installing a grease trap as well, and using waterless wash towels before using the sink to minimize any chance of contamination
Not sure if this would work at that depth in the Great White North, where I live. How cold does it get there?
Just dig a bit deeper to get past the frost line 👍
@@ElementalMaker ... here in Ct they tell us the frost line (for code) is 42 inches. My brother has been running a machine for 40 years around here and says he's never seen frozen ground more than about 16 inches deep on a bad year. Guessing anywhere but Alaska and Canada you could get away with 3 feet deep because running water doesn't freeze and a drain line is usually empty.... unless your tap drips.
Spanks for watching. keep your wood in a vice.
You said the word sht! My virgin ears are burning. 😹
I'm not 100% sure they are available in 4" but I would have used a closet flange to make your lid bulkhead.
What you made is more like a bulkhead union which is OK I guess but I'm not sure why you need the threads.
Joe Blow ... you can also use the same (softy plastic) gaskets / bushings found on drainage boxes. They have a groove in the outside and the pipe is a force fit. There's also something called a barrel bung that is about the same but is rubber. These can actually hold back a few PSI of pressure. I think they are about 3-4 bucks.
Gotta be honest - I love your voice. It's attractive, manly, confident, fatherly-like, and pleasant to listen to.
Which is the main reason I started watching your vids xD even if I doubt if I ever have a yard to use this knowledge, but who knows.
I'm also not sure if I want my husband or my father sound like you
(although in Alabama it wouldnt be an issue, gays are not welcome afaik, idk I'm European)
Anyway, I'll stick around. My waste-of-mother's-love-of-a-father didn't pass me any knowledge on that stuff. Sub+
You could do this by installing a grey water drain from someone like infiltrator...
So what happens when the charcoal is saturated with contaminates and how do you know it? You wouldn't think it but greasy hands and cleaning solvents can mount up in a few years time to quite a few gallons.
You'd be surprised at how many parking lots drain into drywells. Imagine all the motor oil residue and whatnot running off into them. It was extremely common to encounter when I was designing schools. We utilized their use for sinks like he is doing and never had an issue. Can't be any worse than a septic leech line after all.
I am building a grease trap to drastically limit the amount of solids and oils that reach the drywell. That should really help extend the drywell lifespan. Also my neighbors peterbuilt leaks far more oil into our lawns than I'll ever be washing off my hands. As @thenextstepp mentioned, driveway and parking lot drywells are a much greater concern.
What will it take for you and Ave to do a collaboration?
Hey EM, I am building a new patio, with a Hot tub, Swimming pool, Grill and Dining area and Maybe a Sauna. I was thinking about building an 8' x 8' shed for the sauna and maybe a shower for cleaning ourselves, but with the extra room I will have ( 4' x 8' for the sauna) 4' x 8' for a small bathroom, with the aforementioned showed, I would like to add a Sink Basin and a Toilet, (Outhouses have been banned and keeps everyone from running back & forth into the house dripping wet.). I do not expect to use this facility except on the weekends when visitors come by, so I am considering a Dry well like this or should I run a drain pipe over to 1 of 2 Septic tanks I have?
A dry well like this would be fine for a sink, but definitely won't work for a toilet. Sadly I think you'll have to pipe into your septic system for that use. A drywell can't process solids
"never gonna use this capacity".... next week... "welp ive toped up the capacity..... need a few new holes"......
LOL luckily this size is insane overkill for a single wash sink.
I just did basically the same thing 2 months ago except laid the barrel sideways with almost 3 ft of rock and dirt over it and a small leach field attached I’m way over kill for a hand wash sink my self but I live so far out there is no inspectors
That's gotta be nice living that far out. I hate dealing with the township and inspectors, what a pain they are. How's your system working for you?
@@ElementalMaker So far so good, Its a 55 gallon drum. With my work schedule ive got just a few days of use out of it so far. They did run a skytrack over it putting the building up and it didn't move it, so fingers crossed it'll be there for the long run. I live 5 miles to the nearest black top road.
@@rosslawson7730 Nice, glad to hear its working! Man 5 mile from blacktop sounds nice. I need to get further out in the country
oh my, I was here before 100 views?!