I find it to be more complex than complicated. I saw one video where he reassembled a lock and I would imagine that it's just double the process, using a shim to keep one side in place while you place the other. It would definitely be one of his longer videos though :P (sorry for reviving this a year later)
Locksmiths who don't have to defend criminals in court, write wills, and do amateur plumbing assemble far worse assembly challenges. Old Fichet ( I-Beam ) are a misery to assemble.
@@TheRussell747 They're not synonyms though. Complexity would refer to the amount of components while complicated would refer to the difficulty of the task. Something like that anyway. They're sometimes used interchangeably but they're not synonymous.
@@inflatablewolfie no, they most definitely are synonyms. Complex: consisting of many different and connected parts Complicated: consisting of many interconnecting parts or elements And if you look on thesaurus.com you'll see theyre synonyms www.thesaurus.com/browse/complex?s=t
Those extra pins seem to only have 3 different depths and with small depth difference too. And since they are all standards, they simply must be weak to raking. Also the main pins 2 and 6 seem to be too deep for spools to even engage. Even 3 and 5 were set by the rake. You really only had to pick 4 and 7, who have enough depth. In other words, good idea, poor execution. The machining is incredible though. IMHO spools work best when theyhave really lot of room .. that way the fault set is deep, you have to give lot of counter rotation, and there is great change you will drop something. Thanks for the video !
I've always called those "Transfer Punches", and it's a great idea using them for followers. I'm really glad it's you and not me who has to put that contraption back together. So many tiny pins and all those springs. Yikes!
What an interesting lock design :). I couldn't have imagined how they did fit another set of pins above the core without seeing it. Obviously not enough pins to stop you ;D. When you said his name for again at the end of the video, I remembered Urban Hawk :), cool young asian lock expert :). Definitely could see that you enjoyed his lock, thanks for sharing :).
Incredible! That's a great life lesson in general; Once you know and have mastered the basics, then you can use those basic tools and techniques, and the most intimidating obstacles, seem to fade away into more of a tedious task, that might take a lot of very specific steps, but it's not really a struggle, or impossible.
Yes, from Rubik's cubes to the social psychology of world politics, this principle applies. And each such discipline can provide interesting new perceptive angles on other ones. This is how lots of brain interconnections create intelligence.
10:05 would have been a perfect place for LPL to say, "Hang on... uh oh..." and then just let out a world class ripping sneeze and we see a pin+spring explosion.🤣
Hi There, very impressive how easily you managed to open that even though it had 13 pins ! In your opinion, what would be the hardest lock to pick when it comes to Euro Profile Cylinders ?
L.P.L.what can say love the the lock most interesting engineering i have seen on the channel .China has definitely step out of the box with this one..very well explained great video. and the tip about the center Hole punch great idea 😎😎😎😎😎😎💥💥💥💥💥🔓
You mentioned you could rake it open at the first attempt and couldn't repeat. Happens very often to many ppl. Good to see the relative ease with which it can be picked once it's in a false set. Definitely not a lok I'd use to secure my home or office. Thanks.. Beginner's question - any advise where to get good dimple picks?
Dmitr... no worries.... to pick your lock someone would have to have the similar skills of LPL. And BosnianBill lives on the US east coast...so you're pretty safe ;-D
@@macforme Bill, by his own admission, is not an amazing lockpicker, he's exceptionally knowledgeable but admits many pickers have better hands than him, someone like HuxleyPig/Matt Smith would be dangerous as he managed to open the Bowley that even LPL has yet to get in.
@@benisted1614 Thanks for directing me to Matt's YT Channel. Please go back and read the comment from Bowley Lock Company and Matt's edited comments in the Show More notes. Verrrrry Interrrrresting .....🤔👍 The intrigue continues....
well, who'd have guessed ? Totally intimidating key ( to me), nice the way you use Occam's razor to cut through so many of these odd locks :) my transfer punch set is going to be going astray from my workshop in the near future :)
Could you pick a KABA expert on your channel? Would be fascinated to see what they look like on the inside, especially with the orderly way you set out the parts of locks. Great vid thanks!
It doesn't look like there's much variation in the depth of the "bitting" of this or any dimple lock really. From what I've seen of you and BB, hard dimple locks are easier to pick than hard standard locks. It just seems like a lot of the tricky stuff you can do with having a tall key is impossible on dimple locks.
What if they took some of the bottom pins and made the key pins and driver pin have a slightly smaller diameter? This way they would not set when raked because there would be no tension.
i have one of these on my front door, they key has a moving ball inside the key....locked myself out but of course had no chance of picking the dam thing
it’s been 5 years since he posted this and i’m wondering… since he placed the bottom pins in the top of the tray, and the top ones in the bottom, does that mean that he also plays with his Y-Axis inverted? good question.
Can you check something for me? First is there any space for the lower key pins to be over set? Because I think there just there to call it a 13 pin and key control. So if you picked the lock you would just need to set them as there is no room for them to be over set. Making this a 7 pin with key control. Thanks for the video. I think there just making the lock look like its a 13 pins great lock, to keep people from trying to pick it.
There's a completely apocryphal story of a factory in post-WWII Japan sending a small length of very fine wire to a Swiss machine company to demonstrate how thin they could make wire. It's said that the Swiss company drill a hole in the Japanese wire, passed their own thin wire through the hole, and sent it back to Japan....
Lock users, seems obvious, the first thing to do is file off the company name badge from the front of the lock; Extra security making it more difficult to determine the internals.
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Putting these back together would be interesting to see. Seems like that would be a lot harder
I'd love to see something as complicated as this being reassembled.
I find it to be more complex than complicated. I saw one video where he reassembled a lock and I would imagine that it's just double the process, using a shim to keep one side in place while you place the other. It would definitely be one of his longer videos though :P (sorry for reviving this a year later)
Locksmiths who don't have to defend criminals in court, write wills, and do amateur plumbing assemble far worse assembly challenges. Old Fichet ( I-Beam ) are a misery to assemble.
@@inflatablewolfie how can it be "more complex than complicated" when they're synonyms...
My turn to revive a year later btw :D
@@TheRussell747 They're not synonyms though. Complexity would refer to the amount of components while complicated would refer to the difficulty of the task. Something like that anyway. They're sometimes used interchangeably but they're not synonymous.
@@inflatablewolfie no, they most definitely are synonyms.
Complex: consisting of many different and connected parts
Complicated: consisting of many interconnecting parts or elements
And if you look on thesaurus.com you'll see theyre synonyms
www.thesaurus.com/browse/complex?s=t
Those extra pins seem to only have 3 different depths and with small depth difference too. And since they are all standards, they simply must be weak to raking.
Also the main pins 2 and 6 seem to be too deep for spools to even engage. Even 3 and 5 were set by the rake. You really only had to pick 4 and 7, who have enough depth. In other words, good idea, poor execution. The machining is incredible though.
IMHO spools work best when theyhave really lot of room .. that way the fault set is deep, you have to give lot of counter rotation, and there is great change you will drop something.
Thanks for the video !
Yeah this seems like its mostly hampered by having to be housed in a Euro core, and could be very nasty indeed in a larger core.
Wow, 66 pieces for the pins and springs, but it still yielded its secrets willingly to your gentle ministrations! Thanks LPL.
Very cool video - thanks for taking the time to gut this lock for us. It was a bit shocking how easy to the picking was.
I've always called those "Transfer Punches", and it's a great idea using them for followers. I'm really glad it's you and not me who has to put that contraption back together. So many tiny pins and all those springs. Yikes!
So your name is "lockpick stabbings" ?
Dirk I would've loved to see him put it back together with the extra section as well
Amazing disassembly, thank you.
What an interesting lock design :). I couldn't have imagined how they did fit another set of pins above the core without seeing it. Obviously not enough pins to stop you ;D. When you said his name for again at the end of the video, I remembered Urban Hawk :), cool young asian lock expert :). Definitely could see that you enjoyed his lock, thanks for sharing :).
Great video, I don't think I've ever before seen so many pins in one lock!
Incredible!
That's a great life lesson in general;
Once you know and have mastered the basics, then you can use those basic tools and techniques, and the most intimidating obstacles, seem to fade away into more of a tedious task, that might take a lot of very specific steps, but it's not really a struggle, or impossible.
Yes, from Rubik's cubes to the social psychology of world politics, this principle applies. And each such discipline can provide interesting new perceptive angles on other ones.
This is how lots of brain interconnections create intelligence.
10:05 would have been a perfect place for LPL to say, "Hang on... uh oh..." and then just let out a world class ripping sneeze and we see a pin+spring explosion.🤣
Hi There, very impressive how easily you managed to open that even though it had 13 pins ! In your opinion, what would be the hardest lock to pick when it comes to Euro Profile Cylinders ?
As always great picking from a great picker
How do you put everything back? That’s a feat in itself!
wow Crazy little Lock! very well done!👍😊
L.P.L.what can say love the the lock most interesting engineering i have seen on the channel .China has definitely step out of the box with this one..very well explained great video. and the tip about the center Hole punch great idea 😎😎😎😎😎😎💥💥💥💥💥🔓
This is a very impressive lock... and it took LPL about a minute to open... well to be fair that IS VERY impressive...
I think this is the first time I've heard him utter "ahh" while trying to get a lock apart (taking the clip off). 2X
well done well picked still looks like a cool lock though keep up the vedeos mate stiglocks..r
You mentioned you could rake it open at the first attempt and couldn't repeat. Happens very often to many ppl. Good to see the relative ease with which it can be picked once it's in a false set. Definitely not a lok I'd use to secure my home or office. Thanks.. Beginner's question - any advise where to get good dimple picks?
+nsnbc Check out Bills video on finishing Goso picks.
Lock upside down.... You should hold the lock how it is supposed to be mounted. This method makes it easier to set those top pins...
Wow, thats the one on my door right now! Never thought i would see it here:)
Dmitr... no worries.... to pick your lock someone would have to have the similar skills of LPL. And BosnianBill lives on the US east coast...so you're pretty safe ;-D
@@macforme Bill, by his own admission, is not an amazing lockpicker, he's exceptionally knowledgeable but admits many pickers have better hands than him, someone like HuxleyPig/Matt Smith would be dangerous as he managed to open the Bowley that even LPL has yet to get in.
@@benisted1614 Thanks for directing me to Matt's YT Channel. Please go back and read the comment from Bowley Lock Company and Matt's edited comments in the Show More notes.
Verrrrry Interrrrresting .....🤔👍 The intrigue continues....
well, who'd have guessed ? Totally intimidating key ( to me), nice the way you use Occam's razor to cut through so many of these odd locks :) my transfer punch set is going to be going astray from my workshop in the near future :)
So locks don't get made in your workshop?
@@johndododoe1411 I've made some pins, but never a whole lock!
@@2lefThumbs But modifying locks is clearly something to do in the workshop, thus keeping the punches there?
Thank you for the content
Nice video. Well done.
Could you pick a KABA expert on your channel?
Would be fascinated to see what they look like on the inside,
especially with the orderly way you set out the parts of locks.
Great vid thanks!
I love what he does.
Now, I wanna see him put it back together.
*Yes the laughing XD lock*
more great stuff!
Those 'centre locators' are called 'transfer punches'.... I have a full set, in /164th, from 1/16th to 1/2"... Love them!
@ LockPickingLawyer, Could you theoretically make this lock more difficult by adding a few more spools and/or serrated pins?
`awesome
XD stands for extra difficult to disassemble and put back together.
Good video 😀
very nice picking buddy a tricky1 to gut👍😊😊😊😊😊
Very cool lock. it seem its using the time honored method of security through intimidation rather then actual tangible security features...lol
Is this the endresult of the prototype by UrbanHawk in [612] ?
Putin: Damn, this guy can launch my ICBMs...
XD funny lock
Great job picking brother and great lock as well, never seen anything like this,thanks for the review!
Are you putting the lock back together? If so, you should make another video out of that.
Lol the lock maker knows it's a joke. XD
It doesn't look like there's much variation in the depth of the "bitting" of this or any dimple lock really. From what I've seen of you and BB, hard dimple locks are easier to pick than hard standard locks. It just seems like a lot of the tricky stuff you can do with having a tall key is impossible on dimple locks.
is it right, you need to pick it 4 times to get 2 360° rotations to unlock a Door (if it is locked 2 times) and a 5th to move the nose ?
Awsome lookn lock
Have you seen the English guy who uses a electric toothbrush to open locks ? Jolly Peanut.
I noticed the springs that appear denser in the middle. I first thought it was ball bearing balls in the middle. I have never seen this before.
It's like a disjointed Slinky!
What if they took some of the bottom pins and made the key pins and driver pin have a slightly smaller diameter? This way they would not set when raked because there would be no tension.
I liked the reassembly from your last video but I completely understand why you didn't do this one. That would take quite a while.
why do you allways put euro profile locks upside down?
Dumb question. Why are some of these picked upside down?!
would you be able to pick this if it wasnt upside down?
i have one of these on my front door, they key has a moving ball inside the key....locked myself out but of course had no chance of picking the dam thing
That's my house's locks!
it’s been 5 years since he posted this and i’m wondering… since he placed the bottom pins in the top of the tray, and the top ones in the bottom, does that mean that he also plays with his Y-Axis inverted? good question.
It triggers me every time that almost every lockpicker picks these euro profile cylinders upside down. No door has it in that possition.
How come
E you were able to rake it the first time? Did something happen to it that made it un-rakeable the second time?
Tom Coker it was just a lucky rake. Might never be able to do it twice.
I fear no lock. But that thing. It scares me.
Do you ever hear your voice is super soothing. Cuz it is. 👍👊😀
Transfer punches.
I wish you would let us take a look at the bible once gutted, to see the bottom pins' location; anyway very nice video.
Omg, in this video he talks about the one time that it WAS a fluke.
Picked and gutted? This is getting kind of concerning.. I don't think I should watch these anymore it might make me violent
Can you check something for me?
First is there any space for the lower key pins to be over set?
Because I think there just there to call it a 13 pin and key control.
So if you picked the lock you would just need to set them as there is no room for them to be over set. Making this a 7 pin with key control.
Thanks for the video.
I think there just making the lock look like its a 13 pins great lock, to keep people from trying to pick it.
"XD"
xD
how do you even make a spring that small :o
There's a completely apocryphal story of a factory in post-WWII Japan sending a small length of very fine wire to a Swiss machine company to demonstrate how thin they could make wire. It's said that the Swiss company drill a hole in the Japanese wire, passed their own thin wire through the hole, and sent it back to Japan....
XD
Can you reassemble this ?
The lock is upside down.
when you feel LPL breathing a lot..
I want to see the ISEO gera csf
Why dont you pick the lock in the regular position and not upside down?
Cheating
I think this lock gets a paying grade for effort.
Earliest I've ever been!
Lock users, seems obvious, the first thing to do is file off the company name badge from the front of the lock; Extra security making it more difficult to determine the internals.
Do a live stream!!!!!!please
So anyway I started raking.
2:00 Rake in Falsetto
The bigger the lock the faster he can pick it
This video being so long makes me think this lock is pretty good
Lock Picking Lawyer to camera:"..That's all I have for you today"
Lock Picking Lawyer to self: "Well, this is broke now", throws all parts in garbage.
I'll take my XD in.40 cal please!
you are going to have a problem to put all those pins in right order
I HATE this guy.
-Apex
Yeah those cap shaped driver pins are the same as my E*S MG. All 15pin are like that because there are no pins in the bible.
Apecs?.. usually It's a very weak and cheap lock. We have a lot of this garbage in Russia