When Messi has the ball, you think about something impossible, and he does it. But when Maradona had the ball, he did something you wouldn't have even thought
@@OssamaAbdesslam-zz2gm I think so, but when Messi thinks that his effectiveness is Ali, and he is faster than Maradona, and he also creates chances and scores many goals, and he dribbles better than Maradona, but Maradona has Ali’s skill. But when I look at the difference in time, Alan’s numbers, and the circumstances that helped Messi think that he did not fully acquire Maradona’s strength I mean, the difference is that Maradona has a higher athletic repertoire than Messi and Ali than any player who has reached a much higher stage of mastery. There are positions on the ball that only Maradona can do But Messi's influence is amazing I still have no doubt that Maradona is better than Messi
As an Argentinian that loves Messi, everytime that I saw DIEGOD'S videos, I ask to myself: WHO THE HELL IS MESSI? WHO THE HELL IS EVERYONE ELSE? Answer: NO ONE, COME CLOSE TO DIEGO!!. First single detail: The pitches, ball weight, not diets, not ref protection againts defender's that make Pepe look like a girl. Todays players: "Hey ref, a butterfly touch me, that's a penalty" Maradona: "Break me all you want, I won't cry, won't protest, I will keep playing like a man and will give you hell" DIEGO IS A GOD LIKE A PLAYER, YOU CAN'T PLAY LIKE DIEGO IF YOU ARE NOT DIEGO AND THIS VIDEO SHOWS JUST A 10% OF WHAT HE COULD DO
@@johnnyquid-xj4kk No one gets the credit they deserve, not even Diego. People doesn't understand that Diego Maradona is totally different to the FOOTBALLER Diego Maradona
@@johnnyquid-xj4kk What about Di Stefano?, he was amazing too. One thing that is impossible or hard to imagine, is how good Maradona could have been in this era, or in his era without drugs.
I've heard his name more than once and apparently he really was the greatest ever. I am more familiar with the 70s and beyond, but I'm more of a 90s kid. @@ceciliaolivieri5395
He got his ankle broken in Spain they were sent out to get him the butcher of bilbao he was called he has the boot he did it with still Diego was out for a year nearly ended his carer but he came back and won the world Cup in 86
You said it in the very beginning: that goal reminds you so much of Messis goal against Getafe. Maradona scored that goal in a world cup quarter final against a nation argentina lost a war to just four years prior and he did it right after scoring the infamous "header" which he himself called made by the hand of god. After that win he carried his team which was far from being a favorite to the world cup victory. Messis story goes like this: he scored against Getafe in a semi final, Barcelona won that match 5:2 but didn´t reach the copa del rey final due to a 0:4 loss in the second match. And you really want to tell us these goals are basically the same?
Exactly. The goal of the Maradona is against one of the best teams at the time at the highest stage possible. But okey: it is not one goal that determines these things. When you tak ea look at Maradona from all sides and not just a WC, I believe you must be a Messi chauvinist to conclude Messi was in any way better than MAradona as a player and as a teammate. It is how Maradona won with mediocre teams against the very best in the world (Italian competiition) and so concistently they became champions. Maradona gave twice the energy, not just waiting for balls but fighting all over the pitch and not just in the WC, but in the competition as well. ANd we need to look at how difficult it was for him. Form age 15 he played at the toplevel in Argentina and had no personal life from that moment on. He lived like it was Covid all his life. Never being free to go out and enjoy. From Age fifteen. Not protected by management. But he did it. On the worst pitches possible btw. Not these topquality pitches Messi and Ronaldo play on./
Diego's goal is perfect, it's just him and the ball because no english player was able to tap it during the run... every move looks premeditated, just as Victor Hugo's commentary during the match, another piece of art. Messi's goal is also crazy, it's a demonstration of what that youngster was going to become in the near future... but let's not forget Diego did more goals of that kind, not recorded or with very poor quality. Look up "Gol Diego vs Deportivo Pereira" and you'll see ONE example.
Not similar goal AT ALL. Those defenders were criminals, (Butcher) and look at his INSANE CONTROL. His feet is glued to a ball out of control BECAUSE OF the pitches. Messi was like an arrow, Diego an Argentinian Soldier fighting to get trought armed Gurkas
That goal against England by Maradona man, not only was it genius the ball was bobbling so much because the pitch was terrible that day and he still made it look easy!!
I was born in 1979 so I wasn't old enough to see the 86 world cup. I'm not a religious football fan but not long before the 90 world cup my dad who at the time was a maradona fan and he's English as am I, got a video documentary about maradona and I watched it and was in awe. So between the 90 world cup, an Italian football league programme at the time and that video is all i saw maradona in when he was still playing. My generation didnt have you tube etc to watch football on. To this day I'm still not a religious football fan I'll watch world cups etc but I can sit and watch maradona video on here all day he's a complete joy to watch. He's to the football world what Michael jackson was to the music world god like status and those sorts of people only come alone once in a blue moon. So to say a younger generation who didn't see the 86 world cup at the time which I didnt can't appreciate what say maradona did isn't right cos I've never watched another Footballer as much as him maybe with the exception of Roberto Baggio who I also got into in the 90 world cup - if you don't know who he is go check him out - he should've been a more appreciated player he's 1 of the best Italian players ever but his career was injury plagued. If maradona had the protection the players have today back then he wouldn't have been kicked out of the 82 world cup as he retaliated to the constant fouling on him for which noone got any type of card for. Listen to what Gary linekar says about the pitch that the 86 England v Argentina game was played on it was a disgrace and he was in awe of the 2nd goal he scored in that game not just cos it was good but also how he managed to score it given the state of the pitch. If maradona had that level of protection now and played like he did now he could probably easily wipe the floor with them. He was fouled when he was playing for Barcelona and suffered a serious ankle injury. He's played injured for Argentina in 86 and 90 world cup. The English player who clipped his foot scoring the greatest goal ever actually injured him he had to wear an ice pack on his leg after. And yes he regularly got challenged and got straight back up so if he didn't get up there would've been a genuine reason why. Many say he's a cheat for the hand of god goal which by the way it's the fault of the refs to let it go ahead, but I don't think he's ever cheated in the way of taking the piss rolling about on the floor and faking being fouled cos as you can see he was constantly fouled. Both of my parents are big messi fans and were a wreak watching the world cup final last yr. I'm glad messi won it to be fair I'm sure maradona was dancing in his grave. But messi went to play straight for a top team ie Barcelona maradonas career started in Argentina then he moved to barca and as I've read someone say he's probably more loved by Argentina due to him building his fanbase from starting there. This man didn't just lead Argentina to victory in 86 he brought napoli up from nothing hence why he's also so loved there. You cannot deny maradonas passion for the game he was always passionate about it even after he stopped playing. Just a huge shame drugs was his downfall though watch the Maradona documentary that came out a few yrs ago and you'll see that from another point of view. He's definitely the GOAT to me and it's a shame he died when it was covid because it would've been an even bigger thing than it was. Pele dying wasn't as a big as a thing as maradona's was in covid. Even Pele admired him he said when maradona died he hoped to play football in the sky one day and what a thought that would be now pele is up there with him. Definitely watch that docu and find a vid of him called life is life probably the greatest warm up ever
I'll give maradona one other positive he didn't sulk at the side of the pitch like Ronaldo does. He didn't score in the 86 final but he assisted them and he celebrated his teammates, as individual as he was he was a team player too he never seemed selfish towards his team mates
The true GOAT. That goal against England was voted the greatest ever world cup goal. Look what he did at Napoli, a team that was almost relegated the year before he arrived and then led them to two league championships and a European trophy. They only won their third ever title and first since he left last season. They had never won anything until he arrived. Messi and Ronaldo have only ever played at top sides that were always competing and full of star players and he did it in a era where they were competing against AC Milan which was the best team on the planet and the Italian league was the best then.
Now you now why Diego is the GOAT. Determinations, skills, energy and fighting till the end. We won’t see one like him ever. Messi is extraordinary player but he was surrounded by very good players, see here how many good chances were wasted by the average players in his team. When they said he won the World Cup by himself you know what they meant. RIP magician, we, who have seen you will not forget you.
guy this maradona performance can never happen again because today players are protected because maradona had to fight for everything and do not forget he is the most foul player in history
Diego Armando Maradona is hands down the GOAT. Put Messi or any of today's players in the time when Maradona played and they wouldn't do what their able to do today plain and simple. Defenders tried to break your legs. If Maradona played today he'd have much more freedom to do what he wanted with the ball and would have a lot more goals because he would be much more protected vs back when he played. He is the most fouled player in WC history. If they gave out red cards with the tackles they did back them to him as they do today the field would be wide open for him. Maradona was a stronger player physically. You had to be to survive in during that time and with the way players would challenge him. Gary Lineker said it was impossible for what Maradona did to score that goal against England in WC 1986 with the way the turf was at the Azteca stadium. They had just laid down sod days before the game and eveytime you went to turn with the ball the sod would slide/shift over from under your feet. You can even see the ball bouncing like crazy as Maradona takes it down the field and scores the goal. What he did was simple not possible for any other player. Take a look at some of the games that were played on some of the pitches back then. There were times the pitches were literally mud. They don't play on that today. Try kicking a ball on mud. If you want to compare Messi then put him in the same environment and rules that Maradona played and then we'll see what he does. He'd never survive it...not a chance. I seen both players and Maradona's to me is the GOAT.
9:20, the ref didn't give the pen. In return the ref gave Germans a pen on 90's final, which is clearly a dive. Everyone is talking about hand of god, but the England players should get at least 1 red card before that if they had VAR.
You are😮 entitled to an opinion however Messi is not on maradonnas level just on his achievements which say it all. You don't just need to see someone live, you can look at their achievements for clues as to their ability. What maradonna did at napoli proves he is the GOAT because it would be like Messi going to Rayo Vallecano and then immediately winning the Spanish league 2 years running and destroying Barca and real madrid along the way. Napoli were newly promoted to italys top league, which was the worlds strongest league in the 80s, with team like milan, juventeus, inter that were amongst the best best rated teams in the world at the time. Maradonna turned up and just destroyed everyone in the league week after week, it was just crazy what he did. What maradonna did in the 86 world cup was beyond ridiculous, he was like an OP playstation character, all these clips here are from 7 games in one tournament, thats how good maradonna was in every game he played, he was actually a one man team in every game regardless of opponent or importance of the match, he was just ridiculous as a player. I would recommend the tribute clip that's on CZcams that shows some of his skills and goals to get more of an idea about maradonna. I would say to anyone, please don't say maradonna is like Messi because firstly maradonna came first and second he was way beyond Messi.
Maradona did so much more to help Argentina win in 86 than Messi did in 2022. Maradona was brilliant match after match. Messi just had so much sycophantic press and coverage. He played pretty well sure but what did he really do? He scored a bunch of penalties. He had a couple of excellent assists and a couple of relatively easy goals. What he did wasn't too memorable. I think there was just a massive will from everyone to get Messi a crowning moment for his incredible career. He had an excellent world cup whereas Maradona had one for all time. And I'm a Pele fan first and foremost. Followed by being a Messi fan. Messi's club career is untouchable. Absolutely extraordinary. But Maradona in WCs over Messi easily.
Are you serious? What Messi did is arguably more impressive because he did it at a much older age! He scored easy goals really? Well regardless he still had to put them in net! What Messi did this wc is just as impressive as maradonna 86 which is he won the wc for his country! He proved doubters like you wrong!
@@BANGSOFinnaBlow Naa bro Messi had a brilliant World Cup but most goals were penalties. Maradona has the best World Cup performance by any player ever. Again Messi had a brilliant World Cup and he was the best player in 2022 world cup
@BANGSO he was older but had more support squad wise then Maradona did in 86, not to mention he didn't exactly face tough opposition besides the Netherlands and France in the final. Maradona faced and defeated Italy,Uruguay,England,Belgium and Germany in the final, elite competition all of those countries are footballing powerhouses, not to mention he scored 5 and assisted 5 goals while also being the most fouled player ever at a world cup in 86.
Messi fan your player did very well but when you compare him to maradona performance at the 86 world cup then i will be glad to tell you that it a serious joke taking too far, the maradona performance at the 86 world cup is the greatest level a player can reach first of all only the game against england he was brought down more than 25 time, when i said brought down i mean real kick not want you see in today football and yet there will be no free kick in most cases or penalty and again the pitch is not as good as what we have today and he still produce all those because memories that the world of football witness. truth be told there can never be another maradona
@@BANGSOFinnaBlow don't be sentimental because the maradona performance can not be repeated by any player again and my reason is very simple messi play on a much better pitch messi play under so much protection by the law and ref and i never seen messi been kicked every now and then like they did to maradona and maradona never score any penalty goal even when they foul him a penalty was not giving so tell me how will you compare both player?
I can tell what makes a Difference between Maradona and Messi . Maradona faced hopelessness with his teammates , while Messi enjoyed much better talent around him . Maradona is the Only player in History winning a World Cup by HimSelf❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Similar to Messi? I have never seen Messi doing all that actually. This guy is so much more versatile he passes the ball in every way he likes, he passes people almost regardless if they attack him and another huge difference: he barely falls and when he does he always tries to carry on. That is crucial as to why he seems so spectaculr. Not only is the way he dodges it like a slalom skier, but also because he carries on there is no freekick given. Hence the defending team cannot reorganise themselves. That does happen all the time with Messi and Ronaldo. When we look at his carreer we see he was extremely succesfull at a young age. When he was only 16 he was topscorer of the Argentina Primera Division. And that was quite the competition, they won the worldcup for clubteams regularly from 1975-1984 (Argeinian, Urugauyan and Brazilian teams). So not easy at all. But if I am correct, he became topscorer every single yer after that one! SO when he was 20 he already was 5 times topscorer of the country! Just look at other clips where you can see him passing balls perfectly with bicycle kicks etcetcetc. Just on another level and no Messi is not close.
Abouslety the greatest. He had a God like skill. Remember pitches, tackles, no protection, ball weight etc . Plus he played for Napoli who were shocking. At that time Serie A was the greatest league in the world with all the world's greats Guiltt, Platini, Zico, etc and destroyed them
That is in a single world cup what he did most famous players including messi didn't do in all the world cup combined!! He still holds the most records for a single world cup and stat per game played!!
Maradona and Messi are for me the two greatest players to ever grace a football pitch, put them in any order you like, but too me many younger fans don't know just how brilliant Maradona was, his 1986 world performance is the greatest in the history of that tournament. Messi is perhaps the goat because he lasted longer in football, but no one was ever more talented or gifted than Maradona
Even that is not true. Maradona was already 3 times topscoerer of the Argentinian premier league (one of the best in that era) when MEssi started his professional carreer at age 18. So 1977,78.79.80 and 81 he was topscorer. Did you see the defending here. He got that right from the start at age 15 when he started playing in the Primera Division of Argentina. In 1994 he was still essential to Argentina, age 34. In Europe and with the Argentinian squad Maradona never was in the best team. He was in mediocre teams. So stats tell you just so much when it comes to individuals, when there are 10 others the result, the chances you get etc will depend on the others.
The Newbies to soccer and younger generations consider Messi to be the greatest, understandably so. But the OGs have seen their share and know better! Maradona is the greatest. The guy was a wrecking ball competing against a generation of legends and he still topped them! Messi is a world class player, but he’s nowhere near the level of Maradona’s endurance or creativity. Unlike Messi, Maradona was a boss and could carry his whole nation. Messi is a nice guy and more of a Spanish Club player, outside of that he’s been inconsistent and lackluster. My two cents.
All these goat arguments getting out of hand LOL. I've been watching football since across the 1970s. So i saw Cruyff-Beckenbauer-Zico- Platini-Maradona-Ronaldo Nazário-Zidane-Dinho-Cristiano-Messi, at their very peaks. My verdict: Messi Maradona Cruyff The T3 of the lot. Messi did it longer & more consistently than Maradona. Diego was on his way down after 1988, age 27. By world cup 1990 he was nowhere near this '86 world cup level & his peak 85-88 levels. Leo won the world cup at 35! 😲That's crazy & a testimony to his incredible unmatched longevity- consistency elite level's.
I don’t think for a minute that people who think Maradona was the best ever hate Messi in any way quite the contrary! They would generally say that Messi by far is the best player in our time. I got isntant flashbacks to my memories of Maradona when I saw Messi make his debut for Barcelona and I have thoroughly enjoyed watching him play ever since. That being said he although being the closest I have seen yet to Maradona still is far from Maradona in terms of abilities with the ball.
@@MrMakhitta I had the same thing in 2005 with the youth WC (or was it in 2006). I was excited: a guy that could equal or top Maradona. But by 2012 it was clear he would not be that good, he misses creativity and an iron will to go on and on to get the victory. He was rolling over the floor, asking for cards, crying like a baby even though they were not being rough on him at all in 99% of the cases. he lacks. he lacks creativity, he lacks tha t araay of possibility to pass balls that Maradona has. And soon Messi to me became a bore, always the same kind of actions. Effective for sure and excecuted really well. But most of these actions were copies of eachother. With Maradona you never knew what would come but it would mostly be exciting.
Let's not forget Maradona words. I gave my opponents a advantage by playing at 50 % of my potential. I just wonder how Messi and Ronalfo would play if they took cocaine , drank and their hearts were damaged half by it.
I have never seen Messi play in person. But I have a phone and TV and I watched both. If you can’t go by clips than what in the hell do you go by???? Who can afford watching a single players career watching him at every stadium. Thats a ridiculous comment. Diego was more of a dynamite type of player that would run his ass off across the entire pitch and Messi is more of a slow jog breaking into defenders. Very different players. Diego was exciting Messi is also exciting in a more slow motion type of way. There is not even a question if Diego is a GOAT. This was one world cup. You coupdnt make a video this long about a single world cup Messi played in. However, his time at Barcelona WAS epic!
The thing you’re missing in your opening statement: Since you don’t know about other generations you can’t say that anybody is “the greatest of all time”.
@@BANGSOFinnaBlow Can’t compare stats across different eras. Can’t put Messi on these pitches against these defenders and you can’t put Maradona in 2010 with sports science and VAR. There literally is no GOAT and there never will be, talking about it is just childish tbh.
@@BANGSOFinnaBlowIn the last 40 years it has only occured 8 times that neither Real Madrid or Barcelona won LaLiga.. Not to break your hearth but without Messi and Ronaldo ‘stats’ would be exactly the same.. Today neither Messi or Ronaldo play in Barcelona or Real Madrid but the picture remains exactly the same.. It is still those 2 clubs sharing the LaLiga titles 80-90% of the seasons.. PSG had won Ligue 1 for some 12 consecutive seasons except 2 seasons, and Juventus had won Serie for some 10 consecutive seasons.. Messi and Ronaldo were just in it for the ride.. You can’t say about neither of them that their team won the title more or less only because of them, and quite far from it to be honest.. They have both prooven to be fairly quickly replacable..
@@BANGSOFinnaBlow Based on stats defenders can never be any good can they. Stats only show assists and scores. Not defensive manoeuvres. So Beckenbauer, when it comes to stats is probaly worse than say Trevor Frances. Right...
You can’t judge from clips? Does that mean one must go to the field and witness the player live in the stadium in order to appreciate his skill? Incidentally, to gain context, all complete games are available. Also, the field was different and those brutal fouls! Most fouled players 1st , 2nd and 3rd places belong by far to Maradona according to FIFA stats. I mean, the guy was fouled once 23 times in a single game. Soccer nowadays is a very different game the fouls intensity and frequency being the single most important difference.
My top 3 best players of all time: 3 - Maradona 2 - Messi 1 - Pelé Being honest here, i don't have watched much of Maradona, but i don't think that he is in the same level of Messi. I think Messi have a more complete carrer than Maradona. And Pelé is Pelé. I don't think we will see someone like Pelé soon, Pelé literally created everything of football and did everything. On the internet you can see many footage of players trying pretty hard to hurt him and screaming at him, it happened because of envy and racism. First World Cup at 17 years.. Thats crazy... He was so ahead of his time, nobody could stop him and he was like running and driblling everyone.. Everyone wanted to watch him play, and thats why i think that Pelé is incomparable . He did so much for football and everyone that is playing right now, like Messi, football would be totally different without him. And by the way, we only have 10% in images of what he did. Rip King Pelé. This is my opinion, im not trying to change the opinion of anybody, i respect everyone!! Just wanted to say this to show my respect to the King and train my english at the same time UwU
@@maxkennedy1447 Cr7 is crazy good but i think Messi was always better than him. Im not a big fan of Cr7 but i can see why people say so much about Cr7! He is an amazing player and will be remembered forever. Today i think Messi is way better than him but Cr7 did amazing plays.
Uhhhh..I would tell you to watch some more. What you see here is 5% of what he did. And remind yourself he did it with Napoli agains tthe best teams of Europe at the time (Milan, Juventus, Verona etcetc). Pele could have been the best though, I never saw him and not a lot of footage. Pele was incredible.
@@Galaxy-hq3zq I have never seen CR7 as an amazing player but as an amazing goalscorer, as a footballer for me he isn't at the levels of Maradona, Messi or Pele
Well just watch some more Maradona. And then, when you have watched it all then try to be honest and see if you can find one player that actually did all that. May be Pele and no one else.
Boy i have seen both of them play messi can not survive the maradona era, the video you just watch is real and not fake and that's a prove that maradona is well documented and if you don't know maradona change football forever, what he did for Naples and Argentina can never be repeated again by any other player if you don't know he is the only top player in history to make a decision to move to Naples a club that has never won any league titles in their history and made them league champions and also won them an European trophy and his performance at the 86 world cup is the greatest individual tournament performance ever witness in the history of of football, truth be told the maradona performance can never be repeated because today players have protection which maradona never had today players play their games on a much better pitch because if you look closely you would have seen it clearly that when maradona is making his runs with the ball the ball keep bubbling all over the place and that keep slowing him down and today players don't have such challenge so there's know how you can compare today players to maradona and today we have VAR all because of maradona because he scored the most foul goal in football history and also don't forget that player like Messi have all this protection because of maradona because he is also the that have the record of the most foul player against him on the football pitch meaning he pays all the price for today players may his soul rest in peace no wonder Messi himself said if i play for a million year i will never come close to maradona as a player because to him maradona will always be the greatest
I agree Messi would struggle with what Maradona went through and the lack of protection he had but he is a battler all the same and tries his best to stay on his feet, CR7 and Neymar would crumble as they wouldn't get the decisions they do when they fall over like a feather!!
Bangso you can be a Messi fan and all that you want, you have the right to ... but you cannot put Messi up with Diego Maradona and Pele. Those guys played at a different level, with much much more diffcult conditions. Youve seen it, and how they had to do it. Maradona and Pele were much more inventive, creative, strong, more skilled, mentaly tougher and more influential team players than Messi ever was. Maradona and Pele beat world champion teams in world cup matches, Messi never did it in 90 or even 120 minutes. He could only win in penalties. He only beat 1 world champion, and thats France in penalties. Messi didnt even beat the Netherlands (2 time finalist) in two world cup games, only in penalties twice. Maradona and Pele did beat Germany, Italy, England, Uruguay, Maradona beat Brasil, Pele beat Sweden in the finals behind their home fans, Sweden players played all in serie A .. Chekoslovakia, Hungary, France .. all very tough tough teams. They did not have to play Arabia Saudita, Iran and those 3erd level teams in world cup matches. They never won in penalites, scoring penalties, like Messi did (6 gifted in total in Catar 22). Messi is a great player but never on the level of Diego Maradona and Pele. Pele had a career 0.96 average goal scoring per game, the highest ever - 1284 goals. Between 1959 and 1962 he averaged 1.26 gpg, a Guinness record. He was 10 times straight highest scorer in brazilian league ... also a Guiness record. Diego Maradona was not a scorer, that was not his position or responsability, he made forwards score ... but he was so good that he indeed scored wonderful goals also.
You even forget to mention the strenght of the teams that is a crucial factor here! Today we see Haaland on the verge to break one record after the other. Haaland is strong physical striker that can score wtih his head, his feet, taking the right runs at the time, and has way better awareness og were the ball will plump down in the penalty area. Maradona and Messi don’t have that same thing first of all because they would be the player on the ball providing those loose balls, rebounds etc, that a player like Haaland could benefit from. But back to strength of the teams. If Haaland joined City lets say 5-10 years ago he would never score even remotely as many goals because City weren’t as dominant back then. When Maradona played clubs were only allowed to have 3 foreign players in the line up. You would never see matches were one team had 80% or more in ball possession. Obviously you will score more goals if the ball constanly is in your opponents penalty area.. Messi fans point out that you can’t deny stats.. But at the same time, when they admit when seeing that football was more brutal back in the days, that is still something You can ignore... Cherry picking.. Messi is by far the best player in the last 12-15 years, but lately, like the last 3-4 years Mbappé is more dangerous, stronger, and faster dribler.. Age beginning to show.. Now it’s not about the goals anymore..😝 Maradona was like a Kung-fu movie.. Nothing could have been so perfect and fluint unless in a movie. That was thensensation youngot when watching Maradona in his prime. Indeed the highest level ever!!
@@jonathanjoensen2679 Absolutely True. And Pele. And Romario, Those 3 are the TOP 3 EVER. I dont put Messi in top 15. Top 20 with luck. Have a good one.
NL is three times finalist. 1974, 1978 and 2010. Another thing btw: Maradona would for sure have been WC in 1978 but Menotti denied him that pleasure. At 17 years of age he was easily the best player of Argentina.
Guy you don't need to give it to him just look at the topic believe it or not no player can repeat this very maradona performance ever again because maradona never enjoy the protection players like messi enjoy today and the football pitch in maradona era can not host a world cup game in today football and one thing i notice you Messi fans you guys talk a lot about stat but forget to talk about the unthinkable and unbelievable things that maradona did for football he is the only top player in history to make a decision to move to Naples a club that has never won any league titles in their history and made them league champions and also won them an European trophy this is what messi can only imagine in his dreams is like asking Messi or Ronaldo to go and play for a club like new castle of today and expect them to win you the league title then be ready to wait forever, so my point here when we talked about maradona is not just about stat is all about doing the unthinkable and unbelievable things just look at the 86 world cup do you really think that messi can survive those brutality you just watch am asking you to be real here, messi that won the world cup by scoring by penalty in almost in every single game and he is not the one that is been kicked and you try to compare him with a man who is in the middle of everything in the field of play
Difference between Maradona and Messi ie Maradona could play in Messi era and on these smooth pitches and Messi could not play in Maradona era and on those mud pitches and Messi would not survive from those x rated tackles made on Maradona Best left foot in the history of football.. For infinity Maradona the Goat of football for infinity ... Period
jajaja que dices? maradona, pele, ronaldinho, etc, han sido unos gigantes! y messi es uno mas con ellos en el top 1! yo nisiquiera tengo en el top a cristiano, parece que los muy jovenes si pero realmente creo que no han visto nada! han habido al menos sesenta años de futbol magnífico, y muchos increíbles jugadores! o sea, en el futbol las estadisticas y los titulos son solo un aspecto, no es beisbol! sino hay habilidad de freestyle o sino no hay algun tipo de magia, de nada sirve jugar, el futbol tambien es arte y expresión! y eso es la esencia del futbol! no los numeros! por eso es distinto preguntar, quien ha ganado mas trofeos? o decir, quien han hecho el mejor partido de futbol? quien ha mostrado dentro de una cancha el mejor futbol? quien ha llevado el deporte a su maxima expresión? son dos preguntas distintas y claves para entender que es el futbol
@@DjdhdNewlowueebqs cr7 es un duro, un pura sangre! pero messi es muchisimo mejor que el! como escribí arriba creo que los mas jovenes han visto poco y viven en el mito actual de la evolucion, o sea, que lo de hoy es mejor que lo que habia en el pasado! que la sociedad va evolucionando y no, eso no existe! algunas cosas mejoran un tiempo y otras no... el futbol no son numeros solamente, eso es degradar al futbol! una cosa es lo cuantitativo y otra lo cualitativo y, esto ultimo es lo que hace al futbol! hoy dia vivimos en un mundo que todo se cuantifica y el futbol tambien y precisamente por eso el mundo se esta viniendo abajo en todo, politica, economia, futbol, etc! nadie que entienda de futbol va a comparar a cr7 con maradona, cr7 es nike o un buen vino español, pero maradona es versacce o vino frances Chateau Grillet, maradona tiene literalmente muchisima mas calidad!! por eso preguntaba, quien ha llevado al futbol a su mejor calidad?, a su mejor expresion en una cancha en un solo juego?, sea cual sea la respuesta, cr7 no aparece ni entre los diez primeros, cuidado ni entre los 20! si nos enfocamos en los numeros si aparece obvio pero si nos centramos en la calidad no!
tendrías que ser argentino y re fanatico para negar la grandeza de cr7, una cosa es talento y otra es quien fue más ganador y determinante. Maradona fue mucho más talentoso y entretenido que cr7 pero el portugues fue mil veces más ganador, consistente y determinante que Maradona, maradona si hubiera podido ganar balón de oro apenas hubiera ganado 2, cristiano ganó 5 compitiendo con el monstruo de messi. @@gilbertoperezmelendez4099
Maradona was insane, but he scored with his hand... That fantastic play he made, might had been ruled off today, because he starts dribling the entire team of England an English player is struck in the face by an elbow. He was also caught doping, and was never an example to anyone outside the pitch. He shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence as Messi, and I prefer CR7.
so if you only rate players you see live with own eyes then you have no right to call them greatest of all time, you can only call the greatest of current generation because you are too lazy to watch full matches of past legends that you can easily find in the internet archive
For me Maradona is the goat. But if you consider messi better,it's ok. You can or not compare this two great player,you can consider maradona better or messu better.But you cannot compare maradona's performance in word cup 86 with messi's world cup. Maradona's WC 86>>>Messi's 2022
There is a big difference between maradona and messi.Maradonas touch of the ball is light years ahead.His balance vision timing is better he has alot more flair its actually night and day.Messi is great player no doubt but technically maradona is alot better.Messi is more consistant and more disaplined thats it
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When Messi has the ball, you think about something impossible, and he does it. But when Maradona had the ball, he did something you wouldn't have even thought
Exatly. That's the real difference.
So who is better
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I think so, but when Messi thinks that his effectiveness is Ali, and he is faster than Maradona, and he also creates chances and scores many goals, and he dribbles better than Maradona, but Maradona has Ali’s skill.
But when I look at the difference in time, Alan’s numbers, and the circumstances that helped Messi think that he did not fully acquire Maradona’s strength
I mean, the difference is that Maradona has a higher athletic repertoire than Messi and Ali than any player who has reached a much higher stage of mastery.
There are positions on the ball that only Maradona can do
But Messi's influence is amazing
I still have no doubt that Maradona is better than Messi
I never saw a player like Maradona he was on absolute Genius for me the greatest of all time ❤
Fax.
The true GOAT
Honestly his skill is way technical and spot on then any player I have seen
As an Argentinian that loves Messi, everytime that I saw DIEGOD'S videos, I ask to myself:
WHO THE HELL IS MESSI?
WHO THE HELL IS EVERYONE ELSE?
Answer: NO ONE, COME CLOSE TO DIEGO!!.
First single detail: The pitches, ball weight, not diets, not ref protection againts defender's that make Pepe look like a girl.
Todays players: "Hey ref, a butterfly touch me, that's a penalty"
Maradona: "Break me all you want, I won't cry, won't protest, I will keep playing like a man and will give you hell"
DIEGO IS A GOD LIKE A PLAYER, YOU CAN'T PLAY LIKE DIEGO IF YOU ARE NOT DIEGO AND THIS VIDEO SHOWS JUST A 10% OF WHAT HE COULD DO
Riquelme, Batistuta, Caniggia, they don’t get the credit they deserve.
@@johnnyquid-xj4kk No one gets the credit they deserve, not even Diego. People doesn't understand that Diego Maradona is totally different to the FOOTBALLER Diego Maradona
@@johnnyquid-xj4kk What about Di Stefano?, he was amazing too.
One thing that is impossible or hard to imagine, is how good Maradona could have been in this era, or in his era without drugs.
I've heard his name more than once and apparently he really was the greatest ever. I am more familiar with the 70s and beyond, but I'm more of a 90s kid. @@ceciliaolivieri5395
there can never be another maradona
there are hundreds of great soccer players, but there's no denying this man!
My favourite World Cup of all time Mexico 86 he won that World Cup on he own
He got his ankle broken in Spain they were sent out to get him the butcher of bilbao he was called he has the boot he did it with still Diego was out for a year nearly ended his carer but he came back and won the world Cup in 86
You said it in the very beginning: that goal reminds you so much of Messis goal against Getafe.
Maradona scored that goal in a world cup quarter final against a nation argentina lost a war to just four years prior and he did it right after scoring the infamous "header" which he himself called made by the hand of god. After that win he carried his team which was far from being a favorite to the world cup victory.
Messis story goes like this: he scored against Getafe in a semi final, Barcelona won that match 5:2 but didn´t reach the copa del rey final due to a 0:4 loss in the second match. And you really want to tell us these goals are basically the same?
Exactly. The goal of the Maradona is against one of the best teams at the time at the highest stage possible. But okey: it is not one goal that determines these things. When you tak ea look at Maradona from all sides and not just a WC, I believe you must be a Messi chauvinist to conclude Messi was in any way better than MAradona as a player and as a teammate. It is how Maradona won with mediocre teams against the very best in the world (Italian competiition) and so concistently they became champions. Maradona gave twice the energy, not just waiting for balls but fighting all over the pitch and not just in the WC, but in the competition as well. ANd we need to look at how difficult it was for him. Form age 15 he played at the toplevel in Argentina and had no personal life from that moment on. He lived like it was Covid all his life. Never being free to go out and enjoy. From Age fifteen. Not protected by management. But he did it. On the worst pitches possible btw. Not these topquality pitches Messi and Ronaldo play on./
Diego's goal is perfect, it's just him and the ball because no english player was able to tap it during the run... every move looks premeditated, just as Victor Hugo's commentary during the match, another piece of art.
Messi's goal is also crazy, it's a demonstration of what that youngster was going to become in the near future... but let's not forget Diego did more goals of that kind, not recorded or with very poor quality. Look up "Gol Diego vs Deportivo Pereira" and you'll see ONE example.
Not similar goal AT ALL. Those defenders were criminals, (Butcher) and look at his INSANE CONTROL. His feet is glued to a ball out of control BECAUSE OF the pitches.
Messi was like an arrow, Diego an Argentinian Soldier fighting to get trought armed Gurkas
Absolutely the greatest player of all times, with an huge gap on anyone else!
Todo eso hizo en los 7 SIETE PARTIDOS en los que ganó el mundial 86. Háblame de porque lo amamos
Maradona FUE EL UNICO QUE GANO SOLO....desde 70 metros se metia solo al arco. TOP1
That goal against England by Maradona man, not only was it genius the ball was bobbling so much because the pitch was terrible that day and he still made it look easy!!
Always on the floor, nowadays it's imposible to play! Diego was always damaged! The warrior an the goat! Messi's idol!
I was born in 1979 so I wasn't old enough to see the 86 world cup. I'm not a religious football fan but not long before the 90 world cup my dad who at the time was a maradona fan and he's English as am I, got a video documentary about maradona and I watched it and was in awe. So between the 90 world cup, an Italian football league programme at the time and that video is all i saw maradona in when he was still playing. My generation didnt have you tube etc to watch football on. To this day I'm still not a religious football fan I'll watch world cups etc but I can sit and watch maradona video on here all day he's a complete joy to watch. He's to the football world what Michael jackson was to the music world god like status and those sorts of people only come alone once in a blue moon. So to say a younger generation who didn't see the 86 world cup at the time which I didnt can't appreciate what say maradona did isn't right cos I've never watched another Footballer as much as him maybe with the exception of Roberto Baggio who I also got into in the 90 world cup - if you don't know who he is go check him out - he should've been a more appreciated player he's 1 of the best Italian players ever but his career was injury plagued.
If maradona had the protection the players have today back then he wouldn't have been kicked out of the 82 world cup as he retaliated to the constant fouling on him for which noone got any type of card for. Listen to what Gary linekar says about the pitch that the 86 England v Argentina game was played on it was a disgrace and he was in awe of the 2nd goal he scored in that game not just cos it was good but also how he managed to score it given the state of the pitch. If maradona had that level of protection now and played like he did now he could probably easily wipe the floor with them. He was fouled when he was playing for Barcelona and suffered a serious ankle injury. He's played injured for Argentina in 86 and 90 world cup. The English player who clipped his foot scoring the greatest goal ever actually injured him he had to wear an ice pack on his leg after. And yes he regularly got challenged and got straight back up so if he didn't get up there would've been a genuine reason why. Many say he's a cheat for the hand of god goal which by the way it's the fault of the refs to let it go ahead, but I don't think he's ever cheated in the way of taking the piss rolling about on the floor and faking being fouled cos as you can see he was constantly fouled.
Both of my parents are big messi fans and were a wreak watching the world cup final last yr. I'm glad messi won it to be fair I'm sure maradona was dancing in his grave. But messi went to play straight for a top team ie Barcelona maradonas career started in Argentina then he moved to barca and as I've read someone say he's probably more loved by Argentina due to him building his fanbase from starting there. This man didn't just lead Argentina to victory in 86 he brought napoli up from nothing hence why he's also so loved there.
You cannot deny maradonas passion for the game he was always passionate about it even after he stopped playing. Just a huge shame drugs was his downfall though watch the Maradona documentary that came out a few yrs ago and you'll see that from another point of view.
He's definitely the GOAT to me and it's a shame he died when it was covid because it would've been an even bigger thing than it was. Pele dying wasn't as a big as a thing as maradona's was in covid. Even Pele admired him he said when maradona died he hoped to play football in the sky one day and what a thought that would be now pele is up there with him.
Definitely watch that docu and find a vid of him called life is life probably the greatest warm up ever
I'll give maradona one other positive he didn't sulk at the side of the pitch like Ronaldo does. He didn't score in the 86 final but he assisted them and he celebrated his teammates, as individual as he was he was a team player too he never seemed selfish towards his team mates
Absolutely amazing unbelivable that he put up with all those fouls..he was a genius with the biggest heart..DIEGOAT amazing..!!
The true GOAT. That goal against England was voted the greatest ever world cup goal. Look what he did at Napoli, a team that was almost relegated the year before he arrived and then led them to two league championships and a European trophy. They only won their third ever title and first since he left last season. They had never won anything until he arrived. Messi and Ronaldo have only ever played at top sides that were always competing and full of star players and he did it in a era where they were competing against AC Milan which was the best team on the planet and the Italian league was the best then.
Soy Argetino .. de la edad de Messi y vi todos sus partidos .. pero no le llega a los talones a Maradona .. esta en otro nivel ...como un Dios
Maradona is another sport......another level....different class.
Now you now why Diego is the GOAT. Determinations, skills, energy and fighting till the end. We won’t see one like him ever. Messi is extraordinary player but he was surrounded by very good players, see here how many good chances were wasted by the average players in his team. When they said he won the World Cup by himself you know what they meant. RIP magician, we, who have seen you will not forget you.
guy this maradona performance can never happen again because today players are protected because maradona had to fight for everything and do not forget he is the most foul player in history
Diego Armando Maradona is hands down the GOAT. Put Messi or any of today's players in the time when Maradona played and they wouldn't do what their able to do today plain and simple. Defenders tried to break your legs. If Maradona played today he'd have much more freedom to do what he wanted with the ball and would have a lot more goals because he would be much more protected vs back when he played. He is the most fouled player in WC history. If they gave out red cards with the tackles they did back them to him as they do today the field would be wide open for him. Maradona was a stronger player physically. You had to be to survive in during that time and with the way players would challenge him. Gary Lineker said it was impossible for what Maradona did to score that goal against England in WC 1986 with the way the turf was at the Azteca stadium. They had just laid down sod days before the game and eveytime you went to turn with the ball the sod would slide/shift over from under your feet. You can even see the ball bouncing like crazy as Maradona takes it down the field and scores the goal. What he did was simple not possible for any other player. Take a look at some of the games that were played on some of the pitches back then. There were times the pitches were literally mud. They don't play on that today. Try kicking a ball on mud. If you want to compare Messi then put him in the same environment and rules that Maradona played and then we'll see what he does. He'd never survive it...not a chance. I seen both players and Maradona's to me is the GOAT.
9:20, the ref didn't give the pen. In return the ref gave Germans a pen on 90's final, which is clearly a dive.
Everyone is talking about hand of god, but the England players should get at least 1 red card before that if they had VAR.
Exactly
You are😮 entitled to an opinion however Messi is not on maradonnas level just on his achievements which say it all. You don't just need to see someone live, you can look at their achievements for clues as to their ability. What maradonna did at napoli proves he is the GOAT because it would be like Messi going to Rayo Vallecano and then immediately winning the Spanish league 2 years running and destroying Barca and real madrid along the way. Napoli were newly promoted to italys top league, which was the worlds strongest league in the 80s, with team like milan, juventeus, inter that were amongst the best best rated teams in the world at the time. Maradonna turned up and just destroyed everyone in the league week after week, it was just crazy what he did. What maradonna did in the 86 world cup was beyond ridiculous, he was like an OP playstation character, all these clips here are from 7 games in one tournament, thats how good maradonna was in every game he played, he was actually a one man team in every game regardless of opponent or importance of the match, he was just ridiculous as a player. I would recommend the tribute clip that's on CZcams that shows some of his skills and goals to get more of an idea about maradonna. I would say to anyone, please don't say maradonna is like Messi because firstly maradonna came first and second he was way beyond Messi.
Messi is like him who do you think he learn from Maradona wasthere first
HE did not learn a lot because MEssi is way more compromised than MAradona. Maradona created so much because he was so much more creative.
Maradona did so much more to help Argentina win in 86 than Messi did in 2022. Maradona was brilliant match after match. Messi just had so much sycophantic press and coverage. He played pretty well sure but what did he really do? He scored a bunch of penalties. He had a couple of excellent assists and a couple of relatively easy goals. What he did wasn't too memorable. I think there was just a massive will from everyone to get Messi a crowning moment for his incredible career. He had an excellent world cup whereas Maradona had one for all time. And I'm a Pele fan first and foremost. Followed by being a Messi fan. Messi's club career is untouchable. Absolutely extraordinary. But Maradona in WCs over Messi easily.
Are you serious? What Messi did is arguably more impressive because he did it at a much older age! He scored easy goals really? Well regardless he still had to put them in net! What Messi did this wc is just as impressive as maradonna 86 which is he won the wc for his country! He proved doubters like you wrong!
@@BANGSOFinnaBlow Naa bro Messi had a brilliant World Cup but most goals were penalties.
Maradona has the best World Cup performance by any player ever.
Again Messi had a brilliant World Cup and he was the best player in 2022 world cup
@BANGSO he was older but had more support squad wise then Maradona did in 86, not to mention he didn't exactly face tough opposition besides the Netherlands and France in the final. Maradona faced and defeated Italy,Uruguay,England,Belgium and Germany in the final, elite competition all of those countries are footballing powerhouses, not to mention he scored 5 and assisted 5 goals while also being the most fouled player ever at a world cup in 86.
Messi fan your player did very well but when you compare him to maradona performance at the 86 world cup then i will be glad to tell you that it a serious joke taking too far, the maradona performance at the 86 world cup is the greatest level a player can reach first of all only the game against england he was brought down more than 25 time, when i said brought down i mean real kick not want you see in today football and yet there will be no free kick in most cases or penalty and again the pitch is not as good as what we have today and he still produce all those because memories that the world of football witness. truth be told there can never be another maradona
@@BANGSOFinnaBlow don't be sentimental because the maradona performance can not be repeated by any player again and my reason is very simple messi play on a much better pitch messi play under so much protection by the law and ref and i never seen messi been kicked every now and then like they did to maradona and maradona never score any penalty goal even when they foul him a penalty was not giving so tell me how will you compare both player?
I can tell what makes a Difference between Maradona and Messi . Maradona faced hopelessness with his teammates , while Messi enjoyed much better talent around him . Maradona is the Only player in History winning a World Cup by HimSelf❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Goat.
Maradona number ONE
Similar to Messi? I have never seen Messi doing all that actually. This guy is so much more versatile he passes the ball in every way he likes, he passes people almost regardless if they attack him and another huge difference: he barely falls and when he does he always tries to carry on. That is crucial as to why he seems so spectaculr. Not only is the way he dodges it like a slalom skier, but also because he carries on there is no freekick given. Hence the defending team cannot reorganise themselves. That does happen all the time with Messi and Ronaldo.
When we look at his carreer we see he was extremely succesfull at a young age. When he was only 16 he was topscorer of the Argentina Primera Division. And that was quite the competition, they won the worldcup for clubteams regularly from 1975-1984 (Argeinian, Urugauyan and Brazilian teams). So not easy at all. But if I am correct, he became topscorer every single yer after that one! SO when he was 20 he already was 5 times topscorer of the country!
Just look at other clips where you can see him passing balls perfectly with bicycle kicks etcetcetc. Just on another level and no Messi is not close.
Abouslety the greatest. He had a God like skill. Remember pitches, tackles, no protection, ball weight etc . Plus he played for Napoli who were shocking. At that time Serie A was the greatest league in the world with all the world's greats Guiltt, Platini, Zico, etc and destroyed them
That is in a single world cup what he did most famous players including messi didn't do in all the world cup combined!! He still holds the most records for a single world cup and stat per game played!!
Maradona and Messi are for me the two greatest players to ever grace a football pitch, put them in any order you like, but too me many younger fans don't know just how brilliant Maradona was, his 1986 world performance is the greatest in the history of that tournament. Messi is perhaps the goat because he lasted longer in football, but no one was ever more talented or gifted than Maradona
Even that is not true. Maradona was already 3 times topscoerer of the Argentinian premier league (one of the best in that era) when MEssi started his professional carreer at age 18. So 1977,78.79.80 and 81 he was topscorer. Did you see the defending here. He got that right from the start at age 15 when he started playing in the Primera Division of Argentina. In 1994 he was still essential to Argentina, age 34. In Europe and with the Argentinian squad Maradona never was in the best team. He was in mediocre teams. So stats tell you just so much when it comes to individuals, when there are 10 others the result, the chances you get etc will depend on the others.
The Newbies to soccer and younger generations consider Messi to be the greatest, understandably so. But the OGs have seen their share and know better! Maradona is the greatest. The guy was a wrecking ball competing against a generation of legends and he still topped them! Messi is a world class player, but he’s nowhere near the level of Maradona’s endurance or creativity. Unlike Messi, Maradona was a boss and could carry his whole nation. Messi is a nice guy and more of a Spanish Club player, outside of that he’s been inconsistent and lackluster. My two cents.
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All these goat arguments getting out of hand LOL. I've been watching football since across the 1970s. So i saw Cruyff-Beckenbauer-Zico- Platini-Maradona-Ronaldo Nazário-Zidane-Dinho-Cristiano-Messi, at their very peaks.
My verdict:
Messi
Maradona
Cruyff
The T3 of the lot.
Messi did it longer & more consistently than Maradona. Diego was on his way down after 1988, age 27. By world cup 1990 he was nowhere near this '86 world cup level & his peak 85-88 levels.
Leo won the world cup at 35! 😲That's crazy & a testimony to his incredible unmatched longevity- consistency elite level's.
Lo marcaban entre 3 porque jugando nunca lo pudieron parar. Sin dudas de otro planeta
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Here in Argentina we love both, in any order, Diego and Leo are our heroes
I don’t think for a minute that people who think Maradona was the best ever hate Messi in any way quite the contrary! They would generally say that Messi by far is the best player in our time. I got isntant flashbacks to my memories of Maradona when I saw Messi make his debut for Barcelona and I have thoroughly enjoyed watching him play ever since. That being said he although being the closest I have seen yet to Maradona still is far from Maradona in terms of abilities with the ball.
@@MrMakhitta I had the same thing in 2005 with the youth WC (or was it in 2006). I was excited: a guy that could equal or top Maradona. But by 2012 it was clear he would not be that good, he misses creativity and an iron will to go on and on to get the victory. He was rolling over the floor, asking for cards, crying like a baby even though they were not being rough on him at all in 99% of the cases. he lacks. he lacks creativity, he lacks tha t araay of possibility to pass balls that Maradona has. And soon Messi to me became a bore, always the same kind of actions. Effective for sure and excecuted really well. But most of these actions were copies of eachother. With Maradona you never knew what would come but it would mostly be exciting.
Messi 5 goals on penalty of his 7 goals at WC. Mbappe was way better in WC and he show it in the final also...
Yh Mbappe was better! But you have to remember he is 23 and Messi is like 35🤷🏾♂️
zidane was 34 and destroyed Brasil lol@@BANGSOFinnaBlow
pero Maradona se los garcha de parados a Messi y Mbape juntos
I am real because i know football history, maradona GOAT
greats reactions bro
Let's not forget Maradona words. I gave my opponents a advantage by playing at 50 % of my potential. I just wonder how Messi and Ronalfo would play if they took cocaine , drank and their hearts were damaged half by it.
I have never seen Messi play in person. But I have a phone and TV and I watched both. If you can’t go by clips than what in the hell do you go by???? Who can afford watching a single players career watching him at every stadium. Thats a ridiculous comment. Diego was more of a dynamite type of player that would run his ass off across the entire pitch and Messi is more of a slow jog breaking into defenders. Very different players. Diego was exciting Messi is also exciting in a more slow motion type of way. There is not even a question if Diego is a GOAT. This was one world cup. You coupdnt make a video this long about a single world cup Messi played in. However, his time at Barcelona WAS epic!
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The thing you’re missing in your opening statement: Since you don’t know about other generations you can’t say that anybody is “the greatest of all time”.
My statement makes perfect sense, from what I have seen my 🐐is Messi, regarding players from the past none of them have better stats than him
@@BANGSOFinnaBlow Can’t compare stats across different eras. Can’t put Messi on these pitches against these defenders and you can’t put Maradona in 2010 with sports science and VAR. There literally is no GOAT and there never will be, talking about it is just childish tbh.
@@BANGSOFinnaBlowIn the last 40 years it has only occured 8 times that neither Real Madrid or Barcelona won LaLiga.. Not to break your hearth but without Messi and Ronaldo ‘stats’ would be exactly the same.. Today neither Messi or Ronaldo play in Barcelona or Real Madrid but the picture remains exactly the same.. It is still those 2 clubs sharing the LaLiga titles 80-90% of the seasons.. PSG had won Ligue 1 for some 12 consecutive seasons except 2 seasons, and Juventus had won Serie for some 10 consecutive seasons.. Messi and Ronaldo were just in it for the ride..
You can’t say about neither of them that their team won the title more or less only because of them, and quite far from it to be honest.. They have both prooven to be fairly quickly replacable..
@@BANGSOFinnaBlow Based on stats defenders can never be any good can they. Stats only show assists and scores. Not defensive manoeuvres. So Beckenbauer, when it comes to stats is probaly worse than say Trevor Frances. Right...
You can’t judge from clips? Does that mean one must go to the field and witness the player live in the stadium in order to appreciate his skill?
Incidentally, to gain context, all complete games are available.
Also, the field was different and those brutal fouls! Most fouled players 1st , 2nd and 3rd places belong by far to Maradona according to FIFA stats. I mean, the guy was fouled once 23 times in a single game. Soccer nowadays is a very different game the fouls intensity and frequency being the single most important difference.
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My top 3 best players of all time:
3 - Maradona
2 - Messi
1 - Pelé
Being honest here, i don't have watched much of Maradona, but i don't think that he is in the same level of Messi. I think Messi have a more complete carrer than Maradona.
And Pelé is Pelé. I don't think we will see someone like Pelé soon, Pelé literally created everything of football and did everything.
On the internet you can see many footage of players trying pretty hard to hurt him and screaming at him, it happened because of envy and racism. First World Cup at 17 years.. Thats crazy...
He was so ahead of his time, nobody could stop him and he was like running and driblling everyone.. Everyone wanted to watch him play, and thats why i think that Pelé is incomparable . He did so much for football and everyone that is playing right now, like Messi, football would be totally different without him.
And by the way, we only have 10% in images of what he did.
Rip King Pelé.
This is my opinion, im not trying to change the opinion of anybody, i respect everyone!! Just wanted to say this to show my respect to the King and train my english at the same time UwU
Cr7 is up there man come on him and Messi are clear
@@maxkennedy1447 Cr7 is crazy good but i think Messi was always better than him. Im not a big fan of Cr7 but i can see why people say so much about Cr7! He is an amazing player and will be remembered forever.
Today i think Messi is way better than him but Cr7 did amazing plays.
Uhhhh..I would tell you to watch some more. What you see here is 5% of what he did. And remind yourself he did it with Napoli agains tthe best teams of Europe at the time (Milan, Juventus, Verona etcetc). Pele could have been the best though, I never saw him and not a lot of footage. Pele was incredible.
@@Galaxy-hq3zq I have never seen CR7 as an amazing player but as an amazing goalscorer, as a footballer for me he isn't at the levels of Maradona, Messi or Pele
Well just watch some more Maradona. And then, when you have watched it all then try to be honest and see if you can find one player that actually did all that. May be Pele and no one else.
Boy i have seen both of them play messi can not survive the maradona era, the video you just watch is real and not fake and that's a prove that maradona is well documented and if you don't know maradona change football forever, what he did for Naples and Argentina can never be repeated again by any other player if you don't know he is the only top player in history to make a decision to move to Naples a club that has never won any league titles in their history and made them league champions and also won them an European trophy and his performance at the 86 world cup is the greatest individual tournament performance ever witness in the history of of football, truth be told the maradona performance can never be repeated because today players have protection which maradona never had today players play their games on a much better pitch because if you look closely you would have seen it clearly that when maradona is making his runs with the ball the ball keep bubbling all over the place and that keep slowing him down and today players don't have such challenge so there's know how you can compare today players to maradona and today we have VAR all because of maradona because he scored the most foul goal in football history and also don't forget that player like Messi have all this protection because of maradona because he is also the that have the record of the most foul player against him on the football pitch meaning he pays all the price for today players may his soul rest in peace no wonder Messi himself said if i play for a million year i will never come close to maradona as a player because to him maradona will always be the greatest
I agree Messi would struggle with what Maradona went through and the lack of protection he had but he is a battler all the same and tries his best to stay on his feet, CR7 and Neymar would crumble as they wouldn't get the decisions they do when they fall over like a feather!!
React to Pele best skills
all this in 1 world cup
You see Maradona freestyle
Bangso you can be a Messi fan and all that you want, you have the right to ... but you cannot put Messi up with Diego Maradona and Pele. Those guys played at a different level, with much much more diffcult conditions. Youve seen it, and how they had to do it. Maradona and Pele were much more inventive, creative, strong, more skilled, mentaly tougher and more influential team players than Messi ever was. Maradona and Pele beat world champion teams in world cup matches, Messi never did it in 90 or even 120 minutes. He could only win in penalties. He only beat 1 world champion, and thats France in penalties. Messi didnt even beat the Netherlands (2 time finalist) in two world cup games, only in penalties twice.
Maradona and Pele did beat Germany, Italy, England, Uruguay, Maradona beat Brasil, Pele beat Sweden in the finals behind their home fans, Sweden players played all in serie A .. Chekoslovakia, Hungary, France .. all very tough tough teams. They did not have to play Arabia Saudita, Iran and those 3erd level teams in world cup matches. They never won in penalites, scoring penalties, like Messi did (6 gifted in total in Catar 22).
Messi is a great player but never on the level of Diego Maradona and Pele.
Pele had a career 0.96 average goal scoring per game, the highest ever - 1284 goals. Between 1959 and 1962 he averaged 1.26 gpg, a Guinness record. He was 10 times straight highest scorer in brazilian league ... also a Guiness record.
Diego Maradona was not a scorer, that was not his position or responsability, he made forwards score ... but he was so good that he indeed scored wonderful goals also.
Cr7 is the goat
You even forget to mention the strenght of the teams that is a crucial factor here! Today we see Haaland on the verge to break one record after the other. Haaland is strong physical striker that can score wtih his head, his feet, taking the right runs at the time, and has way better awareness og were the ball will plump down in the penalty area. Maradona and Messi don’t have that same thing first of all because they would be the player on the ball providing those loose balls, rebounds etc, that a player like Haaland could benefit from. But back to strength of the teams. If Haaland joined City lets say 5-10 years ago he would never score even remotely as many goals because City weren’t as dominant back then.
When Maradona played clubs were only allowed to have 3 foreign players in the line up. You would never see matches were one team had 80% or more in ball possession. Obviously you will score more goals if the ball constanly is in your opponents penalty area..
Messi fans point out that you can’t deny stats.. But at the same time, when they admit when seeing that football was more brutal back in the days, that is still something You can ignore... Cherry picking..
Messi is by far the best player in the last 12-15 years, but lately, like the last 3-4 years Mbappé is more dangerous, stronger, and faster dribler.. Age beginning to show.. Now it’s not about the goals anymore..😝 Maradona was like a Kung-fu movie.. Nothing could have been so perfect and fluint unless in a movie. That was thensensation youngot when watching Maradona in his prime. Indeed the highest level ever!!
@@jonathanjoensen2679 Absolutely True. And Pele. And Romario, Those 3 are the TOP 3 EVER. I dont put Messi in top 15. Top 20 with luck. Have a good one.
NL is three times finalist. 1974, 1978 and 2010. Another thing btw: Maradona would for sure have been WC in 1978 but Menotti denied him that pleasure. At 17 years of age he was easily the best player of Argentina.
@@jaysimoes3705 And I think already one of the 5 best players on the planet, with Kempes, Cruyff and Zico.
Guy you don't need to give it to him just look at the topic believe it or not no player can repeat this very maradona performance ever again because maradona never enjoy the protection players like messi enjoy today and the football pitch in maradona era can not host a world cup game in today football and one thing i notice you Messi fans you guys talk a lot about stat but forget to talk about the unthinkable and unbelievable things that maradona did for football he is the only top player in history to make a decision to move to Naples a club that has never won any league titles in their history and made them league champions and also won them an European trophy this is what messi can only imagine in his dreams is like asking Messi or Ronaldo to go and play for a club like new castle of today and expect them to win you the league title then be ready to wait forever, so my point here when we talked about maradona is not just about stat is all about doing the unthinkable and unbelievable things just look at the 86 world cup do you really think that messi can survive those brutality you just watch am asking you to be real here, messi that won the world cup by scoring by penalty in almost in every single game and he is not the one that is been kicked and you try to compare him with a man who is in the middle of everything in the field of play
Difference between Maradona and Messi ie Maradona could play in Messi era and on these smooth pitches and Messi could not play in Maradona era and on those mud pitches and Messi would not survive from those x rated tackles made on Maradona
Best left foot in the history of football.. For infinity
Maradona the Goat of football for infinity ... Period
Maradona > Di Stéfano > Batistuta > Messi
Maradona won the World Cup ALONE!!! Messi wouldnt win a Shit without his GOALKEEPER!!!
Word cups(1966-2022)
Most fouled player
No1 Maradona1986 53
No2 Maradona1990 50
No3 Maradona1982 36
No4 Ortega1998 33
※Messi2022 21
jajaja que dices? maradona, pele, ronaldinho, etc, han sido unos gigantes! y messi es uno mas con ellos en el top 1! yo nisiquiera tengo en el top a cristiano, parece que los muy jovenes si pero realmente creo que no han visto nada! han habido al menos sesenta años de futbol magnífico, y muchos increíbles jugadores! o sea, en el futbol las estadisticas y los titulos son solo un aspecto, no es beisbol! sino hay habilidad de freestyle o sino no hay algun tipo de magia, de nada sirve jugar, el futbol tambien es arte y expresión! y eso es la esencia del futbol! no los numeros! por eso es distinto preguntar, quien ha ganado mas trofeos? o decir, quien han hecho el mejor partido de futbol? quien ha mostrado dentro de una cancha el mejor futbol? quien ha llevado el deporte a su maxima expresión? son dos preguntas distintas y claves para entender que es el futbol
de los que mencionaste solo messi puede ser considerado mejor que cr7
@@DjdhdNewlowueebqs cr7 es un duro, un pura sangre! pero messi es muchisimo mejor que el! como escribí arriba creo que los mas jovenes han visto poco y viven en el mito actual de la evolucion, o sea, que lo de hoy es mejor que lo que habia en el pasado! que la sociedad va evolucionando y no, eso no existe! algunas cosas mejoran un tiempo y otras no... el futbol no son numeros solamente, eso es degradar al futbol! una cosa es lo cuantitativo y otra lo cualitativo y, esto ultimo es lo que hace al futbol! hoy dia vivimos en un mundo que todo se cuantifica y el futbol tambien y precisamente por eso el mundo se esta viniendo abajo en todo, politica, economia, futbol, etc! nadie que entienda de futbol va a comparar a cr7 con maradona, cr7 es nike o un buen vino español, pero maradona es versacce o vino frances Chateau Grillet, maradona tiene literalmente muchisima mas calidad!! por eso preguntaba, quien ha llevado al futbol a su mejor calidad?, a su mejor expresion en una cancha en un solo juego?, sea cual sea la respuesta, cr7 no aparece ni entre los diez primeros, cuidado ni entre los 20! si nos enfocamos en los numeros si aparece obvio pero si nos centramos en la calidad no!
tendrías que ser argentino y re fanatico para negar la grandeza de cr7, una cosa es talento y otra es quien fue más ganador y determinante. Maradona fue mucho más talentoso y entretenido que cr7 pero el portugues fue mil veces más ganador, consistente y determinante que Maradona, maradona si hubiera podido ganar balón de oro apenas hubiera ganado 2, cristiano ganó 5 compitiendo con el monstruo de messi. @@gilbertoperezmelendez4099
Cr7 es mucho mejor que Maradona
Maradona was insane, but he scored with his hand... That fantastic play he made, might had been ruled off today, because he starts dribling the entire team of England an English player is struck in the face by an elbow. He was also caught doping, and was never an example to anyone outside the pitch. He shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence as Messi, and I prefer CR7.
Yawn
sos chileno o inges
maradona>messi,
so if you only rate players you see live with own eyes then you have no right to call them greatest of all time, you can only call the greatest of current generation because you are too lazy to watch full matches of past legends that you can easily find in the internet archive
Messi is not the greatest calm down, Pelé>Messi>Maradona
Maradona FUE EL UNICO QUE GANO SOLO....desde 70 metros se metia solo al arco. TOP1
For me Maradona is the goat. But if you consider messi better,it's ok. You can or not compare this two great player,you can consider maradona better or messu better.But you cannot compare maradona's performance in word cup 86 with messi's world cup. Maradona's WC 86>>>Messi's 2022
There is a big difference between maradona and messi.Maradonas touch of the ball is light years ahead.His balance vision timing is better he has alot more flair its actually night and day.Messi is great player no doubt but technically maradona is alot better.Messi is more consistant and more disaplined thats it
Messi is best player in history