I'm noticing a pattern with them. They both have the protagonist start off with the "bad guys" and as soon as you joined the "good guys" the difficulty ramps up. The early 360 exclusives were also kind of weird but they aged a lot better in my opinion if you like weird games.
@@Manic_Panic Yeah early PS3 games were just horrible. Only 2 of them were decent, Resistance and Heavenly Sword. And even those were just ok, but I still have nostalgia for that era somehow haha.
I participated in a test session of this game in late alpha. Of our group of 10 people, everyone complained that the controls were terrible. There was one woman who had to leave the paid testing sessions because she had so little control, she couldn't play the game let alone test it. All the testers agreed the game looked amazing, we all wanted to ride on dragons and breathe fire but we couldn't because no one could control their character. The game shipped in the same state we tested it in.
The story being that your faction is secretly evil and the other faction are the good guys is the most late 2000s shit ever. Every game had that plot back then, Haze comes to mind
i never played this, but when i got to the part of the video where the one dragon escapes i thought to myself"i bet the main dragons going to die and this one becomes yours" maybe i just understand bad writing too well.
I just finally played through haze a couple days ago. What an awful game thats fun for the wrong reasons. My copy has a big 2 dollar sticker on the case and its gonna stat there 😂. I remember being so hyped for that game and then when it dropped i looked up the ign on it and being heart broken 😂😂😂😂. I enjoyed it but its a one time play through. Its one of those games that has you thinking what am i doing with my life 😂😂😂 my 2024 had me get sick with the flu and beat haze but i also beat resistance 1 for the first time that one was pretty good. 2024 has some weird vibes so far 🎉😂
Gotta say I’m agreeing with all the comments saying that it’s been awesome seeing these high quality videos for old ps3 games. I have a ton of memories walking to highschool with my friend and both of us talking excitedly about upcoming ps3 games. This definitely brings those memories back. Keep up the great work!
Nah, i remember my friends talking about WWE 2008 and all i could talk about was 2007 since i had a PS2 up until 2011-12ish, same thing repeated with the PS4 like a year later.
This was one of those games where just the aesthetic of the title and the front picture of the game would have me constantly imagining an insanely good game that couldn't even exist in today's standards. Now that I'm grown up and have a decent understanding of what it takes to make games, that imagination is lost.
These retrospective completions of old, more lackluster games, are truly a highlight I've been enjoying. Would love to see this continue every other week. I'm sure the work put into it isn't the easiest, and I can only imagine the frustration (and remember the Six-Axis frustrations), but it just hits so perfectly right now. Great as always Ryan!
I'm a little disappointed that you did not mention the music in this game because it's honestly the greatest and strongest aspect to it. It was composed by John Debney and honestly I think it's his best work to date. Seriously the music is phenomenal
Love this and the Haze video a lot! Please just make this a series cause the mix of your gameplay and the history behind the game is great. Love the channel!
I love early ps3/xbox 360 games, even the bad ones actually tried to do something creative. Now gaming feels like your paying the same concept over and over again
@@lordlightskin4200 I'm someone who loves survival games, but yea, they have gotten super stale. Plopped in an area with nothin but a knife and a sOoO cReEeEEpy story about the previous inhabitants that you uncover through notes.Survival is better when merged with another genre, not on it's own.
I remember having this game and having great memories same for my friend. I told my friend recently not to play it again, keep the memories as they are 😂.
@@Snaaake_BeaterYeah, he lives in Japan he came here in Europe half a year ago and we had a talk about Lair what is a funny coincidence. I sold him my PS3 FAT way back decades ago when he lived here in Europe. He was like Ohhh yeah Lair that game was great and I was like: suuurrreee... Don't play it again though 😂 keep the memories as they are.
Honestly, I loved this damn game. The soundtrack was amazing, the story was good, and yes, the controls were atrocious but I still had a lot of fun with it. I could not play it with the original control scheme though, so kudos to you for actually putting up with it!
I played it last year for the first time with analog controls on. Honestly it can be real good in its best moments, I particularly remember the assault on the big fortress at night at the 4-5th chapter being quite impressive. But the objectives can get weirdly obtuse later on and the frame rate issues just keeps getting worse, so I only got halfway through. Even with the analog controls there are still many actions that can be frustrating to do. Also, check out the game's soundtrack, it's very underrated IMO.
Try Century. I haven't played it for too long, but it was pretty fun. It's a free multiplayer dogfight game with dragons. I might have to play it some more after this. It's on pc and current gen consoles if you are interested in trying it.
About two years ago, I walked into a Gamestop and found Lair for $3 CIB. I bought it in a heartbeat. I remember thinking how cool the game looked, but was also mind blown by $60 new games at the time. You inspired me to finally play it haha.
Find it funny and sad that Nintendo and Miyamoto themselves started this error a few years later with the controls. Reminds me of the Star Fox game for the WiiU, which I also own. The game also went through development hell and the studio was even changed or another one was brought in, believe Platinum Games so that a working game can come onto the market at all. Unfortunately, Miyamoto had the last word on development and he really wanted to use the Wiiu gamepad and show how great the Wiiu gamepad is and how it beats the competition and no other developer really understood the pad's functions. Therefore, the Star Fox game was not allowed to be played with the Pro Controller or normally with the gamepad. What came out of it was just terrible and ultimately killed the game and probably the franchise. to this day he says that no one has understood how good the gamepad and controls from star fox were for the wiiu. So much for the subject understand the customer and give the customer what you want as the customer is king
I still love this game besides the fact that it is very, very rough around the edges. I feel it did capture the chaos of a battle raging simultaneously in the air, land and water, as well as the visceral brutality and speed of the dragons fighting each other. I stuck with it and got quite good at the analog controls purely because I love dragons. I remember playing Dragon Rage on the PS2 and how unclear the objectives were in that game as well (and it just overall not being very good). I keep hoping that some developer will re-visit this idea but I don’t think it will happen sadly.
How does he keep making such well-made videos so consistently? Oh and 14:20 made me scream-laugh. This is meant to be so dramatic, but the skull literally looks like 💀
Awww man. I loved Lair when it came out, purely because I was really into dragons 😆 It was my second ps3 game - Heavenly Sword being my first. But looking back, Lair truly is a very flawed game hehe.
It’s awesome you’re replaying through these PS3 games Ryan. Maybe play some of the ones I grabbed in childhood…LOST Via Domus, Transformers The Movie The Game, and Gundam Crossfire. 😂 They’ll probably give you a lot of the feelings you experienced while playing Lair and Haze.
This video series is an incredible idea and we should get it every 2-3 weeks. Thanks to this, you can also play games Ryan! Doing 2 videos a week probably doesn’t leave much time to actually play stuff.
This is a very 2007 looking game graphically: the blurry textures, bloom effect, and just awful colour grading where everything is a shade of brown. And that frame rate is only steady in how bad it is, at least the sense of scale is impressive, and there's a dragon and they are pretty cool 14:20 When I saw the child's skull I started laughing it literally looks like 💀
If you change the PS3's resolution to 720p you'll get a better fps. If it's at 1080p you'll get worse performance. Most PS3 games are 1080p upscaled. Only a few PS3 games were 1080p native. Games like Ico HD and God of War Collection Volume 2 and Ridge Racer 7. Putting the resolution of God of War Collection Volume 2 at 720p gets you a locked 60fps at 1080p it dips when you use magic abilitys.
Good for you I was holding a copy of LAIR in an antique store yesterday and was debating it. But my stack of PS3 games never finished is way too large, booted up untold legends and Shellshock 2 this week
The PS3 is the only Sony console I wasnt able to get! It was sooo expensive here in south america and I went with the xbox 360 instead, so please! Do more of this videos!
I remember renting this game and quitting after not being able to do the 180 turn. Watching you struggle with it brought me right back to 2007 lol Props for finishing it!
I don’t know why would you buy a terrible game have you ever heard of renting them before buying them that way you don’t end up buying trash games GameStop sold that game for $1.00 not so sure how much you paid
@@TheFloodFourm random CZcamsr what’s that have to do with the PS3 game he said that sucks do you know these old PS3 games now costing under a $1.00 at GameStop the PS3 has had its years but Sony has failed to make it as fun as the xbox 360 look at the biggest joke they wanted to close the stores then they say you can’t use credit cards then they never put the games on sale listing them on full price forever that’s what I call a disgrace
I completed this game with the Sixaxis (without the patch) and this is one of the games that I urgently wanted to succeed because I adored the whole game, concept, graphics, music etc. from the beginning on. The devs originally planned to do an open world game but Sony for some reason forced them to do a more linear style game. The controls felt great at the beginning, you really felt like flying a beast but it soon got annoying especially at the "Damm Mission" where you have to destroy 4 damms. The game didn't register my movements properly for some unknown reason, so I shook the controller like a psycho (I still felt the pain in my hands the next day, which hasn't happened to me in any game to date).
The colors remind me of the 'muddy' phase of early PS3 gen. At that phase, so many games looked muddy. That's probably due to how every shooter being a muddy WW2 game. I'm glad that, and the 'bald space marine' era at the same time ended.
For the 180 maneuver, you were lifting the whole controller up fast, when you just needed to tilt it upward quickly like a flick. It is an awkward choice to implement as the only control option when it rolled out though. Sony has a history of not listening to it's developers and 3rd party partners.
I got to play this with the joystick patch. I mean despite the sixaxis controls issues I still want to play it, I love the idea of controling a Dragon, it really reminds me of Dragonheart or to be more precise "How to Train your Dragon" mostly in the part when you can fight ships. And thumbs up for playing the game to the end, that's some serious resilience.
I pre-ordered this game on PS3 despite the terrible reviews too cause I was beyond excited with the concept of playing as a dragon lol pretty sure I still have the receipt in the case too. Watching this makes me want to finally finish this game too 😂
Fun fact! The game got a patch so your can use the analogues instead of motion controls. It's a way better game once your playing it with analogue controls. To patch it just highlight the games icon and press triangle and you'll see the option to update the game. I can't imagine playing this game without the patch and with motion controls. The game has some free dlc also on the PS3 store. Also switch the PS3's resolution to 720p you'll get a better experience from Lair as the fps will be more stable. Having your PS3 at 1080p doesn't benefit you for the vast majority of games, you'll only get a worse framerate. Only a few PS3 games were 1080p native. It's best to set the PS3 to 720p.
@gavindixon15 No wonder he was struggling with it. The sixaxis controls are hard to use. Should of played it with Analogue controls also. Maybe he would of actually liked it then. And of course I watched it. He should of played it with analogue controls also so people can see the difference in controls.
Dude he literally switches to analogue controls like halfway through the playthrough and gives his thoughts on the difference (spoiler alert: It still feels bad).
The solemn look you give the camera as you hold up the guidebook at the start of the video is so genuine and funny, keep on keeping on, Ryan. Edit: Holy fuck is that kazuhira miller's voice actor playing the main character???
You are not just another content creator on CZcams. You're also a Gamer. You know what having fun playing games mean. It was never about being a AAA Game. It just had to work and be fun to play. The sales is what made a game AAA.
So satisfied to see you play this old game I probably wouldn’t get to play at any time with your insightful commentary there. Love your great work from China.
It toke me over 10 years to beat Transformers Revenge of the Fallen on PS2. Totally different game compared to the Xbox 360 and PS3 versions. I would always get stuck at the end when you had to fight Megatron. I guess because I was young, I just couldn’t beat it? Anyways, finally beat it not too long ago. Took a couple tries before I went to the actual final stage where you verse the Fallen and finished the game. I felt like I achieved something so big.
Fun fact. The game was developed by Factor-5, the legendary Amiga developer team from Germany who was very known for the Turrican series of games and their innovative technology with sound mixing. Following the failure of Lair, they went defunct. Regardless it was partially a fault of Sony because they pushed for “sisaxis” controls as opposed to something more similar to what players knew from DualShock controls.
The Wilhelm Scream! It comes from some old western movie. It's been an in-joke with sound designers for decades. It's in a lot of major 80s blockbusters. There's an interesting Wikipedia page about it.
My biggest problem with this Era of video games is the ones with the best graphics tended to have this weird "guided tour" type gameplay where you can't quite move freely or in a way that feels natural and often lacking a proper jump button. You had to do everything their way to save on resources and make it look as good as possible.
The behind the scenes is fascinating. Haven't finished your vid, so you might cover this... but if not - Matt McMuscles’ "What Happened" vid has some interesting tidbits.
Thanks for putting up with the god-awful controls to give us this video lol I never enjoyed any sixaxis in ps3 games. Good flying games were possible in the early ps3 era as evidenced by Warhawk. Man, that game was fun.
I haven't watched yet, but I can only applaud you for finishing this mess. I tried to do the same 3 or 4 years ago and just gave up. Really dreadful stuff lol. I'm looking forward to seeing how you get through it!
@Frogs_R_Cool Yeah I was confused why he was having issues with it. I enjoyed it once it was patched and I played with analogue controls. To patch it you just highlight the game icon and then press triangle and then scroll over the the update option. The game even has some free dlc on the PS3 store.
It really does look like a tech demo. Also I love how this and Haze both really want to be the original Deus Ex with the twist ending where it turns out you were the bad guys.
I remember playing Heavenly Sword, Warhawk, Lair, Resistance 1 and Genji on my PS3 back in 2007/2008 The most depressing thing about Lair was the sixaxis pushed by Sony really messed up the game, update did help. What really sucked was watching Factor5 go bankrupt after this game when they had been one of the best third party devs in the industry, they made Rogue Squadron 1-3.
You know usually when a youtuber has a seemingly negative title to their thumbnail, I skip it. However, I will always make an exception for mystic. He can turn the boring and mundane into entertaining and interesting any day of the week.
I remember seeing a G4 review of the game. For some reason, a clip of your dragon flying pops up in my head from time to time. I would have thought it was a fever dream if I didn’t see this video.
Absolutely loving these videos, I left a comment on the Haze video just praising how it was made so again I will do the same, the quality of the video is always amazing but the concept of these videos where you finish the game and go through the story is just so good please make this a series!❤
I'm gonna be that guy Ryan (love your vids) but I absolutely ADORE Lair. Played it on release and played it again last year and it was like riding a bike. It absolutely should have come with analogue controls from the start, but that said I've never played it with them. First time playing I spent a good two hours (yes I know it's long) in the tutorials before hitting the story and hand on heart, genuinely, I hardly had any issues with the motion controls. To do the 180° you need to flick the controller, not your arms, just a sharp flick of the wrists, barely move your body. But yeah, there is a little cult following of that game and we love it 😁
Lair is one of my most painful memories of the ps3 era. Amazing story, epic music, breathtaking scenery, top notch dragons… and sickening twisted controls. God, I wished someone remastered this game, with modern standards…
4:30 In Feb, 2019 Julian Eggebrecht joined Epic Games. Epic opened a new studio with Factor 5 founders. As for Factor 5 itself, it closed with Lair as their final game.
Another observation on this game.. You have the guide book. I'm sure there is something in it that shows the moves you didn't know how you were doing them. I probably wouldn't have gotten thru it. Good for you to finish it.
I love your videos mystic. Always appreciative your level headed and entertaining approach. You do a great job at being informative and just seem like a non zany reviewer. Keep it up!
Ryan, I really like you going back to those early PS3 era games. Would like you to do more of these! Especially exclusive titles.
Same! That was a really great generation.
I'm noticing a pattern with them. They both have the protagonist start off with the "bad guys" and as soon as you joined the "good guys" the difficulty ramps up.
The early 360 exclusives were also kind of weird but they aged a lot better in my opinion if you like weird games.
@@Manic_Panic Yeah early PS3 games were just horrible. Only 2 of them were decent, Resistance and Heavenly Sword. And even those were just ok, but I still have nostalgia for that era somehow haha.
Yeah this series has been so cool, part of me wonders if Ryan is just burnt out with the new Sony first party stuff xD
I really dig the nostalgia trips😢. I still have a ton of ps3 games im yet to play and finish😅. As well ps4, ps5 and switch 😱.
I participated in a test session of this game in late alpha. Of our group of 10 people, everyone complained that the controls were terrible. There was one woman who had to leave the paid testing sessions because she had so little control, she couldn't play the game let alone test it. All the testers agreed the game looked amazing, we all wanted to ride on dragons and breathe fire but we couldn't because no one could control their character. The game shipped in the same state we tested it in.
Now that’s just sad.
This story is true I was the controller
Your plebian mind just couldn't grasp the SIXAXIS™️
Skill issue
Damn Quality control sucks.
The story being that your faction is secretly evil and the other faction are the good guys is the most late 2000s shit ever. Every game had that plot back then, Haze comes to mind
Also Killzone!
It was probably due to the actions of the U.S.A. government at that time! (Bombing the Iraq)
i never played this, but when i got to the part of the video where the one dragon escapes i thought to myself"i bet the main dragons going to die and this one becomes yours" maybe i just understand bad writing too well.
Yep. Even "Crackdown" on Xbox 360 did that. I went back and played it years later specifically because I remember the twist ending as a kid.
I just finally played through haze a couple days ago. What an awful game thats fun for the wrong reasons. My copy has a big 2 dollar sticker on the case and its gonna stat there 😂. I remember being so hyped for that game and then when it dropped i looked up the ign on it and being heart broken 😂😂😂😂. I enjoyed it but its a one time play through. Its one of those games that has you thinking what am i doing with my life 😂😂😂 my 2024 had me get sick with the flu and beat haze but i also beat resistance 1 for the first time that one was pretty good. 2024 has some weird vibes so far 🎉😂
I like how you said every game has that and give only one example
Gotta say I’m agreeing with all the comments saying that it’s been awesome seeing these high quality videos for old ps3 games. I have a ton of memories walking to highschool with my friend and both of us talking excitedly about upcoming ps3 games. This definitely brings those memories back. Keep up the great work!
Soooo true
Nah, i remember my friends talking about WWE 2008 and all i could talk about was 2007 since i had a PS2 up until 2011-12ish, same thing repeated with the PS4 like a year later.
bro youre still in high school dont lie
This was one of those games where just the aesthetic of the title and the front picture of the game would have me constantly imagining an insanely good game that couldn't even exist in today's standards. Now that I'm grown up and have a decent understanding of what it takes to make games, that imagination is lost.
that's why the front cover is so important. a good cover can literally sell a turd.
so funny dude, i had the same exact experience with this game. always thought it looked so cool but never purchased it
i mean... i thought haze was going to be cool because korn wrote a promotional song for it.
These retrospective completions of old, more lackluster games, are truly a highlight I've been enjoying. Would love to see this continue every other week. I'm sure the work put into it isn't the easiest, and I can only imagine the frustration (and remember the Six-Axis frustrations), but it just hits so perfectly right now.
Great as always Ryan!
Ah, the early years of the PS3, also known as "A great time to catch up on all the great PSP and later-life PS2 games"
games like final fantasy xii and persona 4
@@timelymirror7826 Oh yeah! The Mana Khemia and Atelier Iris games, Okami, Odin Sphere... The PS2 just kept delivering
That's kind of what XBOX is going through now. A lot of good 360 games and a few Xbox one games
Thankfully you could wirb backwards compat and cracked games on the web browser
This game looks like It could run on an Android phone
I'm really enjoying this old PS3 reviews you been doing. I hope you keep doing more of these in the future.
I'm a little disappointed that you did not mention the music in this game because it's honestly the greatest and strongest aspect to it. It was composed by John Debney and honestly I think it's his best work to date. Seriously the music is phenomenal
Love this and the Haze video a lot! Please just make this a series cause the mix of your gameplay and the history behind the game is great. Love the channel!
Loved haze. Would be cool to see it come back
Lair makes Haze actually look like Halo, at least that game is easy to control lmao
I wish this IP was revisited, i love the concept and ambition of this game, too bad it was developed in the wrong time.
I love early ps3/xbox 360 games, even the bad ones actually tried to do something creative. Now gaming feels like your paying the same concept over and over again
Game companies these days just want to make sequels for big IP's so they can take pre existing frame work and just reskin and resell it
@@jeambeam3173 Don't confuse AAA video games with video games.
Battle royals and survival all other game modes got FUCKED I can’t stand br and survival games lmfao
Or souls like if you wanna torture yourself
@@lordlightskin4200 I'm someone who loves survival games, but yea, they have gotten super stale. Plopped in an area with nothin but a knife and a sOoO cReEeEEpy story about the previous inhabitants that you uncover through notes.Survival is better when merged with another genre, not on it's own.
I remember having this game and having great memories same for my friend. I told my friend recently not to play it again, keep the memories as they are 😂.
probably the best
@@Snaaake_BeaterYeah, he lives in Japan he came here in Europe half a year ago and we had a talk about Lair what is a funny coincidence. I sold him my PS3 FAT way back decades ago when he lived here in Europe. He was like Ohhh yeah Lair that game was great and I was like: suuurrreee... Don't play it again though 😂 keep the memories as they are.
Honestly, I loved this damn game. The soundtrack was amazing, the story was good, and yes, the controls were atrocious but I still had a lot of fun with it. I could not play it with the original control scheme though, so kudos to you for actually putting up with it!
I played it last year for the first time with analog controls on. Honestly it can be real good in its best moments, I particularly remember the assault on the big fortress at night at the 4-5th chapter being quite impressive. But the objectives can get weirdly obtuse later on and the frame rate issues just keeps getting worse, so I only got halfway through. Even with the analog controls there are still many actions that can be frustrating to do. Also, check out the game's soundtrack, it's very underrated IMO.
Ravine of no return with the spot light and gorgeous soundtrack, very atmospheric.
I like the game. It just needs better controls and at this point of improved graphics.
it sucks because a game like this had so much promise. i wonder if a game like this was made today how much better it could be.
They'd lock the 'good' dragons behind a pay wall.
Try Century. I haven't played it for too long, but it was pretty fun. It's a free multiplayer dogfight game with dragons. I might have to play it some more after this. It's on pc and current gen consoles if you are interested in trying it.
About two years ago, I walked into a Gamestop and found Lair for $3 CIB. I bought it in a heartbeat. I remember thinking how cool the game looked, but was also mind blown by $60 new games at the time. You inspired me to finally play it haha.
Find it funny and sad that Nintendo and Miyamoto themselves started this error a few years later with the controls.
Reminds me of the Star Fox game for the WiiU, which I also own.
The game also went through development hell and the studio was even changed or another one was brought in, believe Platinum Games so that a working game can come onto the market at all.
Unfortunately, Miyamoto had the last word on development and he really wanted to use the Wiiu gamepad and show how great the Wiiu gamepad is and how it beats the competition and no other developer really understood the pad's functions.
Therefore, the Star Fox game was not allowed to be played with the Pro Controller or normally with the gamepad.
What came out of it was just terrible and ultimately killed the game and probably the franchise.
to this day he says that no one has understood how good the gamepad and controls from star fox were for the wiiu.
So much for the subject understand the customer and give the customer what you want as the customer is king
Most nintendo motion control stuff is intuitive and happening at 60fps. At least at 30fps. This game runs so f-ing badly that I gasp
I remember getting this for $0.99 from gamestop and getting so frustrated with the controls - even post-patch. Great video, brought me back
Please keep making these ps3 game reviews/gameplay. My favorite generation and my favorite console.
He should do heavenly sword next
I still love this game besides the fact that it is very, very rough around the edges. I feel it did capture the chaos of a battle raging simultaneously in the air, land and water, as well as the visceral brutality and speed of the dragons fighting each other. I stuck with it and got quite good at the analog controls purely because I love dragons. I remember playing Dragon Rage on the PS2 and how unclear the objectives were in that game as well (and it just overall not being very good). I keep hoping that some developer will re-visit this idea but I don’t think it will happen sadly.
How does he keep making such well-made videos so consistently?
Oh and 14:20 made me scream-laugh. This is meant to be so dramatic, but the skull literally looks like 💀
Tons of coffee I imagine
Have you seen the timestamps for his trophies?
Being passionate helps. Plus he's a king among men.
Bro is 100% dedicated.
Awww man. I loved Lair when it came out, purely because I was really into dragons 😆
It was my second ps3 game - Heavenly Sword being my first.
But looking back, Lair truly is a very flawed game hehe.
I got those exact games in that order when the PS3 came out. I loved lair too, but I was 14 and now my taste is different.
@@JERM92 haha same! Good times 😊
Sucks that none of those have any trophy support
@@armandomorales0921 I know. It was just too early in the generation. I can’t remember when trophies came out but they took over my life lol
Heavenly Sword deserves a remake imo
It’s awesome you’re replaying through these PS3 games Ryan. Maybe play some of the ones I grabbed in childhood…LOST Via Domus, Transformers The Movie The Game, and Gundam Crossfire. 😂 They’ll probably give you a lot of the feelings you experienced while playing Lair and Haze.
PS3 era and games are legendary
Lair was one of those games that had an interesting idea, but it was far better off being simplified and really needed a whole a lot of play testing.
This video series is an incredible idea and we should get it every 2-3 weeks. Thanks to this, you can also play games Ryan! Doing 2 videos a week probably doesn’t leave much time to actually play stuff.
This is a very 2007 looking game graphically: the blurry textures, bloom effect, and just awful colour grading where everything is a shade of brown. And that frame rate is only steady in how bad it is, at least the sense of scale is impressive, and there's a dragon and they are pretty cool
14:20 When I saw the child's skull I started laughing it literally looks like 💀
If you change the PS3's resolution to 720p you'll get a better fps. If it's at 1080p you'll get worse performance. Most PS3 games are 1080p upscaled. Only a few PS3 games were 1080p native. Games like Ico HD and God of War Collection Volume 2 and Ridge Racer 7. Putting the resolution of God of War Collection Volume 2 at 720p gets you a locked 60fps at 1080p it dips when you use magic abilitys.
@@WllKiedSnake Lair was also one of those few 1080p games.
@@codezero7981 Yeah! And it runs pretty bad if the games set to 1080p.
Do Genji Days of the Blade next. Giant Enemy Crab 🦀
I remember really enjoying this game! The art style and design was really good. The dragons were awesome. But yeah the controls were hard to manage.
Good for you I was holding a copy of LAIR in an antique store yesterday and was debating it. But my stack of PS3 games never finished is way too large, booted up untold legends and Shellshock 2 this week
Great to have such a good retrospective even on such a terrible game. Loving this series of revisits.
This game brings back memories of me throwing my controller 😂
Then you finally execute the 180!
The PS3 is the only Sony console I wasnt able to get! It was sooo expensive here in south america and I went with the xbox 360 instead, so please! Do more of this videos!
I remember renting this game and quitting after not being able to do the 180 turn. Watching you struggle with it brought me right back to 2007 lol Props for finishing it!
You really gotta keep this series up! Ps1 ps2 and ps3. I love the nostalgia and with your personality and expertise it just works.
I don’t know why would you buy a terrible game have you ever heard of renting them before buying them that way you don’t end up buying trash games GameStop sold that game for $1.00 not so sure how much you paid
Taking what some random youtuber did 15+ years ago too personally me thinks
@@TheFloodFourm not really so sure if he was talking to you the PS3 is dead anyways go get yourself a PS5 so you can play Spider-Man 2
@@TheFloodFourm random CZcamsr what’s that have to do with the PS3 game he said that sucks do you know these old PS3 games now costing under a $1.00 at GameStop the PS3 has had its years but Sony has failed to make it as fun as the xbox 360 look at the biggest joke they wanted to close the stores then they say you can’t use credit cards then they never put the games on sale listing them on full price forever that’s what I call a disgrace
@@TheFloodFourm this is about the game not about the CZcamsr wake up fool ?
Before lair came out we were all hoping this was the next rogue squadron 😅
I completed this game with the Sixaxis (without the patch) and this is one of the games that I urgently wanted to succeed because I adored the whole game, concept, graphics, music etc. from the beginning on. The devs originally planned to do an open world game but Sony for some reason forced them to do a more linear style game. The controls felt great at the beginning, you really felt like flying a beast but it soon got annoying especially at the "Damm Mission" where you have to destroy 4 damms. The game didn't register my movements properly for some unknown reason, so I shook the controller like a psycho (I still felt the pain in my hands the next day, which hasn't happened to me in any game to date).
I bought this game off ebay recently for $10, after seeing this I think it will remain on the shelf ;)
It's worth playing. Change the resolution of your PS3 to 720p though. 1080p gets you worse performance.
The colors remind me of the 'muddy' phase of early PS3 gen. At that phase, so many games looked muddy. That's probably due to how every shooter being a muddy WW2 game. I'm glad that, and the 'bald space marine' era at the same time ended.
I actually really kinda missed it!
Everything is so brightly, cartoony colorful nowadays.... Even DOOM and Quake!
For the 180 maneuver, you were lifting the whole controller up fast, when you just needed to tilt it upward quickly like a flick. It is an awkward choice to implement as the only control option when it rolled out though. Sony has a history of not listening to it's developers and 3rd party partners.
Keep the old PS3/360 videos coming! Loving the deeper dive on these titles that while most may have seen, may not have played.
I got to play this with the joystick patch. I mean despite the sixaxis controls issues I still want to play it, I love the idea of controling a Dragon, it really reminds me of Dragonheart or to be more precise "How to Train your Dragon" mostly in the part when you can fight ships. And thumbs up for playing the game to the end, that's some serious resilience.
I pre-ordered this game on PS3 despite the terrible reviews too cause I was beyond excited with the concept of playing as a dragon lol pretty sure I still have the receipt in the case too. Watching this makes me want to finally finish this game too 😂
Fun fact! The game got a patch so your can use the analogues instead of motion controls. It's a way better game once your playing it with analogue controls. To patch it just highlight the games icon and press triangle and you'll see the option to update the game. I can't imagine playing this game without the patch and with motion controls. The game has some free dlc also on the PS3 store. Also switch the PS3's resolution to 720p you'll get a better experience from Lair as the fps will be more stable. Having your PS3 at 1080p doesn't benefit you for the vast majority of games, you'll only get a worse framerate. Only a few PS3 games were 1080p native. It's best to set the PS3 to 720p.
I mean he literally opens the video saying he is aware of the patch and mentions the patch like 3/4 times throughout, did you watch the video?
@gavindixon15 And yet! He still had six axis stuff going on. So he must of not been using the analogue controls.
@@WllKiedSnake well yeah he also says at the start he wanted to play it as intended, not with the analog patch, so again we’re you paying attention?
@gavindixon15 No wonder he was struggling with it. The sixaxis controls are hard to use. Should of played it with Analogue controls also. Maybe he would of actually liked it then. And of course I watched it. He should of played it with analogue controls also so people can see the difference in controls.
Dude he literally switches to analogue controls like halfway through the playthrough and gives his thoughts on the difference (spoiler alert: It still feels bad).
i feel like this is one of those games where you just won't understand how difficult it is to control until you play it for yourself.
Lair was not bad compared to the stuff that's out now💯🎮
certainly smoother than Redfall.
@@lemming9984 Yup😂
Now remaking this makes sense, not tlou for the nth time
I love seeing Ryan play all the best games from PS3. lol 🤣
The solemn look you give the camera as you hold up the guidebook at the start of the video is so genuine and funny, keep on keeping on, Ryan.
Edit: Holy fuck is that kazuhira miller's voice actor playing the main character???
I remember always seeing this game at GameStop for years and years and always wondered what this game was lmao
I was excited for this game. After one try, I immediately returned it to the store.
You are not just another content creator on CZcams. You're also a Gamer. You know what having fun playing games mean. It was never about being a AAA Game. It just had to work and be fun to play. The sales is what made a game AAA.
cringe.
I remember a kid in sixth grade bragging about getting to go home and play Lair.
How the tides have turned, James.
So satisfied to see you play this old game I probably wouldn’t get to play at any time with your insightful commentary there. Love your great work from China.
Giant wasps, giant enemy crabs. Man…. The PS3 had it all.
It toke me over 10 years to beat Transformers Revenge of the Fallen on PS2. Totally different game compared to the Xbox 360 and PS3 versions. I would always get stuck at the end when you had to fight Megatron. I guess because I was young, I just couldn’t beat it? Anyways, finally beat it not too long ago. Took a couple tries before I went to the actual final stage where you verse the Fallen and finished the game. I felt like I achieved something so big.
Fun fact. The game was developed by Factor-5, the legendary Amiga developer team from Germany who was very known for the Turrican series of games and their innovative technology with sound mixing.
Following the failure of Lair, they went defunct.
Regardless it was partially a fault of Sony because they pushed for “sisaxis” controls as opposed to something more similar to what players knew from DualShock controls.
24:03 That's that classic overused scream noise that we have all heard in some movie or video game in the past.
The Wilhelm Scream! It comes from some old western movie. It's been an in-joke with sound designers for decades. It's in a lot of major 80s blockbusters. There's an interesting Wikipedia page about it.
Hell yeah! Relive the early amazing PS3 days! I love these videos
24:53 glad I stuck it out to the end when Ryan gives us his “post-nut clarity” final views on the game. 😂
You played haze and then lair- god bless you dude!! 😮
I'm betting the outtakes for this will be gold :D
My biggest problem with this Era of video games is the ones with the best graphics tended to have this weird "guided tour" type gameplay where you can't quite move freely or in a way that feels natural and often lacking a proper jump button. You had to do everything their way to save on resources and make it look as good as possible.
Yeah the Kinect had this issue where legitimately cool looking games and setpieces were basically QTEs you couldn't ever fail
We need a remake of Lair…..it’s a market for it.
The behind the scenes is fascinating. Haven't finished your vid, so you might cover this... but if not - Matt McMuscles’ "What Happened" vid has some interesting tidbits.
This game was great... in a b movie kind of way. I loved it back then
It was a cool concept I wish someone revisited it.
Thanks for putting up with the god-awful controls to give us this video lol I never enjoyed any sixaxis in ps3 games. Good flying games were possible in the early ps3 era as evidenced by Warhawk. Man, that game was fun.
24:48 that sure is a happy face 😂
Props to you for finishing Lair, and thank god it didn't have trophies!
I haven't watched yet, but I can only applaud you for finishing this mess. I tried to do the same 3 or 4 years ago and just gave up. Really dreadful stuff lol. I'm looking forward to seeing how you get through it!
You patch it so you can use analogue controls?
@@WllKiedSnake I think I did yeah. I don't remember all of this frustration like Ryan is having lol
@Frogs_R_Cool Yeah I was confused why he was having issues with it. I enjoyed it once it was patched and I played with analogue controls. To patch it you just highlight the game icon and then press triangle and then scroll over the the update option. The game even has some free dlc on the PS3 store.
If you want a good game that exclusively uses the SIXAXIS controls, play Flower.
It really does look like a tech demo. Also I love how this and Haze both really want to be the original Deus Ex with the twist ending where it turns out you were the bad guys.
I really like these mini documentaries with some mixed in gameplay
I remember playing Heavenly Sword, Warhawk, Lair, Resistance 1 and Genji on my PS3 back in 2007/2008
The most depressing thing about Lair was the sixaxis pushed by Sony really messed up the game, update did help. What really sucked was watching Factor5 go bankrupt after this game when they had been one of the best third party devs in the industry, they made Rogue Squadron 1-3.
i loved lair, ahead of its time
You know usually when a youtuber has a seemingly negative title to their thumbnail, I skip it. However, I will always make an exception for mystic. He can turn the boring and mundane into entertaining and interesting any day of the week.
This video style is great, loved this and the Haze video.
Looking forward to more like it!
I’d buy that for a dollar
How much did it cost? I'd spend no more that $10.00
I remember seeing a G4 review of the game. For some reason, a clip of your dragon flying pops up in my head from time to time. I would have thought it was a fever dream if I didn’t see this video.
i rarely see ryan looking visibly disappointed but this is one of them.
you should really try X-Blades!
This game is ass. Quite literally
The trash era of PS3 gaming was Haze, Lair, Timeshift, Brink oh my such dark days 😂
Absolutely loving these videos, I left a comment on the Haze video just praising how it was made so again I will do the same, the quality of the video is always amazing but the concept of these videos where you finish the game and go through the story is just so good please make this a series!❤
I'm gonna be that guy Ryan (love your vids) but I absolutely ADORE Lair. Played it on release and played it again last year and it was like riding a bike. It absolutely should have come with analogue controls from the start, but that said I've never played it with them. First time playing I spent a good two hours (yes I know it's long) in the tutorials before hitting the story and hand on heart, genuinely, I hardly had any issues with the motion controls. To do the 180° you need to flick the controller, not your arms, just a sharp flick of the wrists, barely move your body.
But yeah, there is a little cult following of that game and we love it 😁
Lair is one of my most painful memories of the ps3 era. Amazing story, epic music, breathtaking scenery, top notch dragons… and sickening twisted controls. God, I wished someone remastered this game, with modern standards…
This is a great format! It's making me want to get my PS3 out again. Brothers in Arms anyone?
I love how not only the voice acting at 23:25 is terrible but he says 'crevices' while the subtitle says 'crevasses'.
This is the most unique way of reviewing game play and walkthrough I have seen hope you do more like 2011 dangerous hunt
Using ps move and camera
Need these type of videos as a series nice vid btw
Man, make more vlogs and videos like that, it’s so much entertaining than news about some corporation
The synopsis you gave for this game makes it sound really interesting. The sky guard sound cool af!
I love these old school ps3 era type of videos.
I remember loving this game so much when I was kid. Thanks for the nostalgia!
4:30 In Feb, 2019 Julian Eggebrecht joined Epic Games. Epic opened a new studio with Factor 5 founders.
As for Factor 5 itself, it closed with Lair as their final game.
Another observation on this game.. You have the guide book. I'm sure there is something in it that shows the moves you didn't know how you were doing them. I probably wouldn't have gotten thru it. Good for you to finish it.
If you pause it you can check the move options.
I love your videos mystic. Always appreciative your level headed and entertaining approach. You do a great job at being informative and just seem like a non zany reviewer. Keep it up!
Factor 5? that’s a medical condition that almost killed me 💀