After Image Explained - Techniques Guide
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- čas přidán 27. 01. 2020
- Zanzoken Explained! On the new technique guide, we are Explaining The AFTERIMAGE Technique. Goku vs Krillin and Goku vs Roshi were two fights that used it PLUS Cell vs 17, Cell vs Goku, Freeza vs Goku and more! In depth analysis!
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Here’s a quick fact: back in 2016 of DBS: Episode 72, Goku thought Hit was using the After Image Technique but he wasn’t.
im trying to remember
Geekdom101 it’s the episode when Goku came back to life with that blast he shot up in the air before dying from Hit’s “One Punch Killer Move” that I forgot what it was called.
@@Plun_Yu oh right, Hit was using a time skip dimension thing iirc
Which of course also goes without saying, that he eventually figure out that it were Time Skip.
I vaguely remember that
Tried this technique in a restaurant one time. Still had to pay the bill.
Gohan With Down Syndrome joke was boring tbh
Adrian Richard thank you. Go ahead and drop a thumbs up like the 30+ people who agree with you.
It worked for me, I didn't have to pay the bill... at that moment. But I had to when I came back :(
XD
"Wait, so the after-image can't move, how do you even-?" *Kicked in the face*
After seeing the After Image being used to allow Goku and Vegeta to fuse in GT, I'm surprised we haven't seen it used in other moves (like, imagine an After Image Spirit Bomb or an After Image Kamehameha.)
after image Genki Dama wouldn't be possible cause of the way the move is, but the Warp Kamehameha is the same thing, but better
@@Geekdom101 I could still see after image used for a variety of different abilities. I'd love to see a "warp" Makankosappo.
Edit: Before anyone mentions Piccolo has to charge it, that was when Piccolo had a power level of 300. Cell fired off Special Beam Cannons like they were nothing. I'm sure Super's Piccolo would be far more or as capable as Cell.
Morokiin
Agreed
@@Morokiin piccolo already use "warp" makankosappo against frost.
@@diputsnoob3815 No, Piccolo had an ability to make clones of himself.
You can see it when he trains on the Hyperbolic time chamber he make clones and fight with himself.
I once tried to do this Technique in real life as a kid back in 1999 and caught a bad nose bleed and almost even had a slight Brain Aneurism to go along with it 😅
How? Did you run into a wall
I would call that success 😂
@@hoohoo431 I'm glad you also lived to talk about it as well 😃👍🏽
@@harleyoyelade9988 no I was Straining extremely hard to try in make it work for real and did not like the results I was getting back 🤯🥴🤕
@@moonson8804 Hahahaha I'll take it 😅😅👍🏽
So that’s how they do such fast movements that they faze in and out of reality and shit when fighting
Naw there jus moving really fast creating a image
Thats more what hit does
jashard wallington I know that’s not literally what they do but visually they usually turn into speed lines and vanish when they do the after image
Yep it's merely an after image or illusion
Just wave your hand very fast you can make one
I taught this technique to Toriyama-sensei and he taught it to his characters in the manga.
Did you have fun learning it from Kenshiro?
Launch has masterd this technique
Teach it to me please
I want to know
The After Image is one of the coolest techniques to have most creative applications. Imagine using this in sports games. It be throwing the players of the focus.
I remember an old NBA commercial where D Wade said he wished he could teleport and they edited him teleporting his way through the defense and taking it in for a huge dunk. I thought it was one of the dopest edits ever and it made me kinda wish the humans weren't so hindered and normal lmfao.
Pretty Gordo I remember that commercial. That was back when Dwayne Wade was in his prime.
@@QuinnClips247 Word I'm pretty sure that commerical was for an X-Men movie promo run. It had to be during the 2011 playoffs I think.
WAIT, ROSHI WAS JACKIE CHUN????????
lmao
Geekdom101 next you’re going to tell me it’s not “portion seller baba.” 🙄
Jeremy Grandison I’ve read all of dragon ball. Lmao. I was just being silly.
Jeremy Grandison nah, I’ve watched kai GT and super but I’m more of a manga kind of guy.
Jeremy Grandison I’ve seen bits and pieces. I’ve thought about getting a list of just the filler episodes from DB and Z so I can see all the anime exclusive stuff, but I’m currently reading berserk so it’ll be a while.
Hey Geekdom, what about 17 and 18 artificial energy/ki explained next video since it raised interesting questions in the last manga chapter.
OH youre right! I almost forgot about that one
Geekdom101 np dude!
As a nerdy, science-minded guy, my friends and I came to the conclusion over a discussion back in highschool at lunch: Characters using this technique would use their Ki to produce a bright light from their body, thus burning the image of their last known position into their opponent's eye. This gave them the opportunity to use super-speed to move away. Nothing as intense as the Taiyo-Ken (Solar Flare), but enough to fool the eye. This is closest we came to explaining how this technique would actually work if you assume Ki and powers are real, but also account for real life science. I'm glad you included that bit in your video.
Best explanation I've heard
@@mdbz8357 Thanks for reading!
Then why wouldn't their image be in their view at all times like when the sunspot burns it's way into 1 single spot of your field of view. After image is stationary with respect to where it was used. Your explanation makes 0 sense. Sorry
@@bobcatwulfbear1713 Fair enough. Like I said, this was as close as we could come to explaining it as kids, haven't really dug into the idea in a decade.
Just my immediate thoughts as I watched the video, but you make an excellent point.
@@bobcatwulfbear1713 Although, as I said, I don't think the effect would be nearly as intense as Solar Flare. Maybe they illuminate just enough to burn the image for a moment? We're arguing over fiction so there is no real answer, but that is the nearest to "real" answer I can fabricate. If you've got a better idea, I'm all ears.
The speed of the technique or the afterimage is like a wheel rotating so fast the eye cant follow a single spoke anymore and the wheel appears to go slowly backwards due to the limited amount of images the eye can differenciate per second... Thus when you move around at x times the speed of that you can gain x amount after images 🙂
"these fights are moving faster than the eye can see and because of that, all it takes is half a second for you to get drop kicked in the mouth"
Geekdom101 2020
I love when Dyspo uses it against Frieza
Afterimage technique, aka “moving super fast very suddenly.”
I’m surprised it isn’t used offensively as often as it is used defensively. Amping your speed for a second and landing a strong, unguarded hit on your opponent seems well worth the energy loss(as shown by Jackie Chun).
Goku did it at the start of the fight against Cell, but you're right we don't see it much offensively.
Actually now that you think abt it it would seem like a good technique
Then what is rapid movement
The last two videos I've posted (Super 2020 update and Technique Guide: After Image) are both 60fps.
Has anybody noticed any difference in quality? Is it the same? Does it look better or worse or the same in YOUR opinion? Lemme know please
Better imo, but you should pin your comment to make sure others see it
Goku: "VEGETA.. THE AFTER IMAGE TECHNIQUE!"
Vegeta: "What about the aft- HUH.. OF COURSE.. ALRIGHT KAKAROT I'll FOLLOW YOUR LEAD"
Lol I still have my GT DVDs.
@MASTER CARLOS it was flawed but it had its moments.
Another excellent video big D! Always great analysis, makes me love dragonball more and more
Love the technique guide vids! thanks for awesome content!
Thank you geekdom I love the way you can explain these techniques and the origins of the move
The best DB CZcamsr hands down.
Thanks for the Technique guide!!
Great Video Geekdom
After image ... The forgotten brilliance or or not valid with current dragon Ball power levels?
Geekdom on point as always! This is such an underrated technique.
One of my absolute favorite techniques
Love the new video style
I've noticed there are a couple of techniques that are used in Dragonball that are also in other Series. After Image, Multiform, various zenkai with bright auras, beam blasts, etc.
hello mr.geekdom excited to see what you're gonna make next :)
Thanks geekdom101 CZcams sucks without your videos glad to have you
thanks so much
@@Geekdom101 Your Welcome but thank you man 👍 your the best
I always assumed the technique was done simply by having the characters very suddenly increasing their speed. Sort of like a "my opponent is used to this speed, now to kick it up a notch for just a moment".
0:33 WOW LOVELY EDIT ! 👏👏
Especially seeing it performed int he early Dragon Ball fights with Roshi and Goku, etc., I took it as them not only moving incredibly fast to leave an after image, but returning to the same spot at random times, then speeding away again, which is why Goku could sit there animating sticking out his tongue and such with his image, and how they can appear in multiple spots using it at once.
I'm no longer sure if it was explained in DB, but from what I recall, After Image is done by moving super fast, but slowing down at specific intervals so the opponents eyes catch on to the slow parts, and miss the speed up. This creates a brief image in the slow spot from the perspective of the opponent. If the user jumps into the same spots very quickly, those images can appear to last longer.
i think that's correct
Can you do a video on "psychology" of Android 16? I'm rewatching the series and his character is so interesting. For being a full robot with one purpose to kill Goku, he's really mindful and knows how to enjoy the moment
Ayeee Bro! I know you was doing the transformation guide too at first but we’re you going to finish it ? You never did one on Ultra instinct
Good job on the vid
Thanks now I know the technique
How
Cool video, I've always noticed helicopter blades spin fast enough to create a sort of after image effect. You see four blades when there's only two.
What I think is relevant regarding this technique is that physics clearly works differently in the dragon universe. There have been videos made discussing at what point in the original DB heroes can be described as moving faster than light. While I think some of those videos exaggerate due to not understanding how the eye itself works, it's clearly something that can be done much more easily than in the real world. Once you're moving faster than light, optical illusions work differently. There's also the question (in Z, especially) if whether they can actually see each other or are merely sensing ki.
I always figured that the person just moved so fast it looked like they were still there, no other hacks necessary.
In the anime against cell goku used an afterimage that was moving which i thought was odd but i guess it was just a variation of it🤔 great video geekdom once again!
Old school technique... Love it
I think when it comes to the weird ones sometimes it might be speed but sometimes it might be Ki by making a hollow version of yourself like the cloths beam but hollow and you don't blast it against anything or anyone you just keep that energy in one place before it dissipates.
Yo I love this series geekdom
Ever recorded an airplanes propellor at 24 FPS on your phone? How it looks static but it’s moving at a relatively fast speed because that’s how our eyes perceive it. It’s relative to the frame of the bystander it’s just a lack of human vision. Maybe that is why it it took a back seat to, “instant transmission.” After the Hiroshima atomic bombshell the explosion left shadows plastered on the walls.
I am happy the Zanzoken was “explained,” even if it was just to say it’s fiction and there is no official explanation on how it works. I’ve always wondered about it
Eh
I like using after image on Xenoverse 2, you have lots of different types you can use like super afterimage, afterimage strike, phantom fist (Mira's move) and the standard after image, not sure if the instant rise evasion move counts as a afterimage and Vegito's pressure sign counter move and Gogeta's Punisher Drive move not sure about those think that is kind of after image and Pan's feint shot move. basically lots of different ways to use it.
In geekdom we trust.
Can't wait to see the galick gun video
I can't wait for the transformation guide to come back especially since if we're going to Super we get to talk about my favorite form
Thanks man! I also wonder if it's rhythmatic movements. Moving super fast and stopping in the same spot over and over again to create the illusion of a solid object?
Hail Geekdom!
Hey geekdom can you please make a video explaining Gohans career and scholarly level? I’m curious about his day to day life as a half saiyan who’s focused on school instead of training
Love this
GEEKDOM!!
Today at gamestop i noticed they are selling SSJ4 action figures(Legit) The Dbsuper figures that are sold everywhere..
They normally only release action figures of thing coming up or currntly happening....any ideas
Inline GTI Dokkan collab?
@@iannnn idk id like to know lol thought it was a bit weird
Probably going to a crossover arc or incorporate some elements of GT in Super.......probably.
Pretty sure scooby doo uses the afterimage technique a lot.
shaggys been teaching him
I think it is either simply a speed feat
Or it could be explained like the solar flair. A ki "attack" that only distorts perception, like genjutsu
I always thought it was like your moving so fast the brain can only comprehend the moments you slow down so the after image was like the half a second you stopped so your opponents brain can register you’re there but by the time that happens you’ve moved on to another spot
Hi Geekdom 101 here's a thing let me correct you on one spot: the afterimage is a move that any person can do but not as long as in the anime, let me explain if you take a pencil and shake him real fast the pencil will leave an afterimage you will deceive your eyes that something is there but is not. I hope to clarified that love the channel keep up the good work 👍👍
Dodoria or how you write it used Rapid movements together with many other characters like Goku against Frieza or Kalifla. Their abilities just get Mixen a lot of times
I like the intro for this.
After image technique is very useful in certain situations
I liked your Theory bro
I always figured after image in anime/manga or comics be it goku or flash is kinda simple. They are just moving so fast you can't see them and then picking the spots and repeatedly pauseing in chosen locations for the briefest moment needed to cause the after image. Hence allowing the appearance of attacks landing or in some cases attacks from all directions
The Zanzoken a useful technique originating in original Dragon Ball
Hi! Quick question here sir if you will.. what’s the next form that you’ll be talking about in the transformation guide? Just curious is all.
Maybe someone already told ya this. But u forgot the coolest time goku did it. When he arrived on namek and he moved so fast he didnt look like he moved at all. That was always one of my favs
Always been in if my favourite techniques to be honest
My confusion about the after image technique lies in less experience with weaker characters. Like what would happen if someone like Yamcha would use the after image technique against Goku. Would Goku be able to see Yamcha since hes stronger? That doesnt make sense though since this has to do with the eye and the signals that travel to the brain. Does getting stronger mean that your brain is faster? It's really confusing.
@@drdoomgoat38 That pretty much clears that up then
Oh snap! Yeah man!
Another example is in testament of a new sister devil when basara toujou used a type of perfume to create afterimages on the demon Lord he was fighting in that tournament
Easily one of my favorites...
Swagkage style thumbnail
Id like to consider myself a pretty adamant dragon ball z fan but ive never got around to the original and it was enlightening to see how the after image became what it is
If it uses ki to make the opponent believe it's still the user then it probably uses the same principle that with regular afterimage:
1. Keeps Ki "On"
2. Quickly turns it "Off" and moves to its desired new location.
3. Increases Ki again to perform the attack.
4. Profit!
This was also explained in Saitama vs Genos, where Genos was actually aiming and catching up to after image Saitama
I like the dont get it twisted part lol
I feel like a really fast flash of light emitted from the body before quickly moving away temporarily burns the image of the user in the opponent's retinas is maybe what's happening there
Goku also use that move against cell in the tournament when he used frieza discs move
After Image technique explained how in a nut shell. The technique is all about speed relative to your opponents speed. The premise is the user moves so fast (faster than the speed of light) and therefore leaves a temporary image of themselves.
Now if your opponent is really powerful and speedy themselves, they will be able to track the users movement and not by fooled by the after image.
In theory if you are able to move faster than the speed of light, you could leave an after image as well lol.
Geekdom101 should do a video about the Nimbus Cloud
Better example of an irl afterimage is moving your hand back and forth till you see your hand is in 2 places at once
my theory or thought is that using ki as a substitute for light to feed a false reflection of light into your opponents eyes thus creating an after image
Geekdom should do a video on why the present androids are stronger than the future ones, no one's explained that yet
Butterfly Effect. Watch my Dragon Ball In Depth on the Tale of Two Gohans
Man I completely forgot about this technique I wonder if it could be combined with instant transmission to make a new technique.
When I was younger and we had a CRT television. At night I could look up at the fan and see individual blades but the fan was on full speed. I could do the same thing with my hand by moving it really fast and it looks like I had four or five hands. Maybe the after image could be real in the correct lighting???
The user could be [especially for the 3x and higher after images] "flashing" like a [1% solar flare] every time they stop, burning in the after image into the opponent's retinas [like watching 2 strobe lights or police beacons]
You can’t do an after image in real life with your full body BUT you can do it with your hand... if you wave your hand ‘in a good bye’ motion at an extremely fast speed while looking at yourself in a mirror you will see an after image after you stop. But it is ever so minuscule. You have to keep an extremely close eye to notice it. Try it and drop your comment!
Keep em goin
Wow you helped me get smart
What if in the same way Tienshinhan uses the Solar Flare, the user applies Ki to their features to sort of “flash” the image into the opponent’s retina?
That sort of raises the question as to why an after-image isn’t left when Goku does Instant Transmission/Movement. Any thoughts on that?
To me i always think its all just based on speed. I mean metal cooler for some odd reason knows about that move but never learned it during he's real body fight with goku but he was able to keep up with goku in the instant transmission dimension space.
Naruto also has a form of this in body flicker. Where basically they use there chakra to make a quick move where they kinda leave behjnd afterimages.
What about the technique goku used when he blasted a hole in the ground with his eyes to put vegeta body in as a grave? Is it similar to thing meta cooler did with his eyes with the invisible ki portrayed as sparkles
Can you do the rapid movement technique it is very similar to the afterimage one.
Hi Geekdom I have a question do you remember the move goku did to make a hole in the ground to bury vegeta? Can you make a video explaining this? I am not completely sure but Frieza did it too on this same arc after on goku and I think others people did that too later ..too..?(I don’t remember)
Love this move!!! Why don’t you do this anymore goku!!
You can see this effect with a stroboscope light, too :)
I think that in dragon ball it was just them moving so fast that it tricked the opponents sense of sight and in z and after they left behind ki to also trick their opponents ki detection.