Digiten Thermostat Outlet is Unsafe?
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- čas přidán 23. 01. 2020
- I picked up this Digiten Thermostatic outlet to control my Clean Burn heater and I had a wacky problem going on. It puzzled me for a min or two. Lets see if you can guess the answer to this electrical problem! `
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THE PLOT JUST THICKENED! Turns out after I snipped the ground and plugged this heater back in to the Digiten, I now get electrocuted when I touch the steel table that the heater sits on. I mean not terribly electrocuted, but certainly enough to make you pull your hand off. Only only when I'm barefooted though! I just happened to run out to the garage real quick and lean on the metal table and I got shocked. lmao! Guess I I have a serious wiring issue inside of this thing! Hot shorting to ground somewhere? I measured the table voltage in sure enough it is 120v. Which has me a little confused. Because the heater works completely fine whether the ground is hooked up or not and never trips a breaker or anything.
I want one to control my blower on my woodstove Do you know of a good one to get ?
Don’t walk on wet floors 😂
Where again did you snip the ground? In the digiten? It sounds like you've energized your table, and you're completing a circuit(albeit a poor one) back to ground/neutral through the concrete/rebar/cold water bond. Reconnect your ground, it's there for a good reason. If you touch you table and something else that's more solidly grounded there's a damn good chance you'll kill yourself
The heater's circuit should only use the hot and neutral. The ground is there for the abnormal scenario that the hot comes in contact with metal parts that shouldnt be energized, and if the ground is disconnected somewhere (as in you case) those metal parts become as you found it with 120v.
Yes I've had the same problem and I thought that the unit was malfunctioning! It worked turning the heat on but did not turn it off because there is a separate thermostat on the heater itself. Thank you for confirming what I wrote up as junk that I bought for $3500 ! That's what it cost me! Bottom line the instructions are basic at best. I'm a master mechanic and I write code to ecm's mostly due to new diesel emission laws in Cali. But this thing stumped me for months and I still have it wrapped up in a cabinet
switching the neutral is unsafe for many reasons. You just covered one. It used to be ok back in the day, but now people are smarter and even building code mandates you wire your house switches to switch the hot.
I had 2 homes built where they put a wire in the panel in the wrong location and had power going backwards. The only way to shut it off was to pull the meter at the pole. Both places destroyed 3 Appliance’s they went up in 💨 smoke
Damn that's crazy. While the wiring in my heater seems to be faulty, I still think it's crazy that this thermostat doesn't cut the hot wire
NoNonsenseKnowHow I agree should have cut hot wire. I bet they did the neutral because it’s temperature doesn’t get as hot as the hot wire feed and the circuit inside can’t take a lot of heat. I have seen some unbelievable stuff and I am not an electrician. I just dealt with electrical stuff and learned the proper way things are supposed to be done.
@@johngibson3594 the hot and neutral have the same current running 5hrough them so they will heat up the same. They are the same awg wire with the same resistance. No excuse to switch neutral. I bet it was made in a different country where they did not have the specs for our outlets correct.
Main panel should not bonded any sub panel or anything else should be bonded. Hope that helps
Interesting. My main panel has a solid bond between the ground and neutral bus bars. Sub panel does not
Hey @NoNonsenseKnowHow any new updates on this? I was looking at one of Digitens newer designed Thermostatic outlets but now I'm sweating it lol
I have just bought one of these things , I wonder if they've fixed the problem 🤔.
No bonding only allowed in main panel. Ground should be to your box or chassis of the furnace.
Problem is, with the ground going to the Box, it's somehow grounded to the neutral. So somewhere in the wiring it must be bonded
Is it possible the ground and neutral have been switched around in your electrical box? I have that issue in my garage
That's not the case with this one. The neutral is Switched inside of this device instead of the hot
How many amps does your heater draw? A couple of "critical" reviews at Amazon say that the wire used is not good quality. Maybe there's different versions of that device? Others said it didn't really turn on/off at the set temperature.
It draws way less than 15 amps that's for sure. And that's what this things rated for. I think I'm going to take this piece of junk apart and see what's going on in the inside. the digiten that is
Pulled the Digiten apart, and sure enough the hot side is soldered right together so only the neutral side is Switched. Seems kind of stupid to me
@@NoNonsenseKnowHow yeah, just thought I'd mention what I saw when I looked at it on Amazon.
In the description it starts off with, "So I picked up...." What is the purpose of the word "so" here?
Was never very good in English class. Just a way of starting a sentence off I guess. What do you saying? Just the filler words? Or what's the purpose of your comment
@@NoNonsenseKnowHow I was just picking at the usage a bit because the word "so" is totally unnecessary there. It adds nothing. If you're not a native English speaker, I apologize. It's just that starting sentences with "so" has become an annoying trend in the last 10 years.
No, I would have to say that you're right. And English is my native language LOL. Anyway, I appreciate the input in either case. Again, I tend to use a lot of filler words. Just like this response to you LOL. I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that I'm using speak to text for pretty much everything
@@echt114 I went ahead and corrected it for you
@@NoNonsenseKnowHow What a cool response to my pickiness. You're an asset to YT.