Reacting To Star Trek TOS Season 2 Episodes 2x11 "Friday's Child" & 2x12 "The Deadly Years"
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0:00 Intro
0:23 Friday's Child
14:06 Friday's Child Review
17:15 The Deadly Years
30:20 The Deadly Years Review
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Chekhov claiming everything was invented in Russia was a cold war thing. With the space race going on, both sides were desperate to prove that they were more advanced. Russian government representatives would often claim that inventions were first made in Russia.
Chekov
I once knew an exchange student from Ukraine (part of the Soviet Union during the Cold War) and she was a) surprised that I knew anything about W.W. I, b) had zero idea about Archduke Ferdinand and c) had a hilarious rationale for the start of World War One which she had been taught in school.
She would've been taught this before the breakup of the Soviet Union, so I don't know if more recent students have benefited from correct history classes or if they are still taught the pro-communist propaganda version.
I remember reading an old Star Trek book that included a young Leonard James Akaar as a minor character.
Oh wow! It all makes sense then.
Hey, Courtney! The preggers alien babe in "Friday's Child" was Julie Newmar aka Catwoman from the camp classic 1960s Adam West "Batman" series!
She and Shatner famously were at odds during the production!
In "The Deadly Years", the director wanted to film Kirk restored in stages as he ran from sickbay to the bridge with each cut revealing him to be a bit younger until he emerged on the bridge as a 34-year-old Kirk good as new! It would have been a phenomenal sequence but Shatner hated the tedious make-up and removal process and wouldn't stand for it. Therefore, they filmed the transformation off-screen instead.
The scientists on the surface were exposed to the comet and the radiation's effects weren't communicable from person-to-person explaining why the crew aboard ship were unaffected.
Each one of the makeup changes required for this otherwise clever idea would take an hour, at least. Totally impractical for the time, and I can tell you: I don't know any actor that wants to sped 2 hours getting made up and another 2 getting the makeup removed.
It's funny...today, William Shatner is 20 years older than the 70+ years he is in this episode and his mind is still 100% sharp and he doesn't look that old.
I was gonna say the same thing. For a man in his 90's he is still so sharp, funny and vital. And always busy. Amazing man.
I concur
The young crew woman who went down with them and was affected was one of the children in Old Yeller, the Disneu Classic about a the heroic dog of a western pioneering family..
In order to make the aging process look more dramatic, the makeup department made the actors look younger at the beginning of the episode. It was DeForest Kelly's idea to exaggerate McCoy's Southern accent as he aged.
22:43 "He's taking a nap, y'all."
He's at his post. That is _completely_ improper. _Sleeping_ at your post is about the same as _abandoning_ your post.
You were asking about why the rest of the crew wasn’t infected with the aging illness. Earlier in the episode Spock was mentioning how the planet had passed through a comet or meteor, thereby exposing the inhabitants to the radiation that got them sick. By the time the Enterprise arrived on the scene, the radiation from the meteor, that is, the radiation in space, would have passed by, leaving only the radiation on the planet surface remaining. Another possibility could be the Enterprise offered some type of protection that those on the planet did not have.
In "The Deadly Years," when Spock didn't want to take command, remember that despite his protestations of having no emotions, he's very loyal to Kirk. I think he didn't like the stink of mutiny, logic aside.
I really like all the little character moments in Friday's Child, haha. And "Leonard James Akaar" always gets a chuckle out of me
“Boots with the fur”….took me out😂
The deadly years scares the hell out of me especially when I look in the mirror
In "The Deadly Years" I think the people on board the Enterprise were protected by the ship's shields.
Regarding Commodore Stocker (sounds a lot like "Decker," doesn't it?) and his experience: to function, any military branch has hundreds of tasks to accomplish before they can fight: food, logistics, repairs of everything, medicine, supply transports, etc. For every combat soldier/sailor/flier, there are at least ten other soldiers doing support of some sort, not fighting in other than emergencies..
In Starfleet, likewise most captains do humdrum things like run freight back and forth between star systems, run repair depots, command bases, command small scout ships, etc.
In particular, it's always stressed that Starfleet at this time has only "12 ships like her in the fleet."
Enterprise is in the flagship category. Only the top twelve captains at a given time get to have experience with her. And we see from Pike and Kirk that one can be captain for at least eight to ten years, and probably much more.
Anyway, tl;dr: lots of Commodores have no experience with a combat vessel, let alone one with the capabilities of the Enterprise. Thus he makes dumb decisions and then doesn't know what to do.
At least unlike many foolish Starfleet/Federation higher-ups, Stocker isn't arrogant or unreasonable; he's trying his best. He's just not up to it.
I don't remember which movie it was in the _Pirates of the Caribbean_ franchise, but one of them had a scene with Captain Jack Sparrow planning a strategy with Captain Hector Barbossa that involved taking another ship. Jack Sparrow has _always_ wanted command of the _Black Pearl._ So this strategy involved them taking this other ship, giving it a crew, Sparrow taking command of the _Pearl,_ and he and the crew of the other ship serving under the command of Barbossa, which, according to Sparrow, would make Barbossa a _commodore._
And according to the research I just conducted, a commodore is someone in command of more than one ship.
The makeup on the deadly years was very good for the time.
Friday's Child:
The girl enjoyed McCoy's digital examination just a little too much; he's quite the alpha! And hey, she was Catwoman! Julie Newmar had a recurring role for two years in the 1960's Batman series. She's also a Tony award winning actress, and she holds several patents for her lingerie designs. Reminds me a little of Hedy Lamarr, except that Hedy's patents had wartime implications and are in use today by wi-fi devices.
And, once again, Scotty wasn't gonna take any guff. He was ready to take on the Klingons, despite the Organian Peace Treaty. (See "Errand of Mercy" from season 1.) Had the Klingons been more aggressive, it might have been interesting to see how it's enforced. Things could have been heated.
The Deadly Years:
I think this is the first time we experience the Chekov Scream. It has been a meme since the word was coined in the 1970's.
The illness was a type of radiation sickness experienced only by people who were exposed on the planet's surface. It didn't affect anyone who was protected by the ship's hull.
I think that in Starfleet, people can rise through the ranks on several ladders. Just as in the army, a captain can command different kinds of units or capabilities, so can a Commodore in Starfleet. Stocker may have earned his rank through expertise in something other than commanding starships. He is headed to a starbase, so he might have no training in battlefield tactics (other than "raise the shields"), nor would he understand how to use the capabilities of a starship to maneuver for advantage. But he's still an idiot because he should have some basic knowledge about the Federation's more persistent enemies and to stay out of their territories and disputed areas.
And I think the good captain and doctor would have received some kind of scolding about Leonard James Aka'ar and the prime directive.
There was mentioned once that mutiny is almost unheard of on a starship. And yet, we just witnessed the third such event on the Enterprise as Spock removed Kirk from command. (See "The Menagerie" and "The Paradise Syndrome" from season 1.)
... Regarding "The Deadly Years", and your question of why did it not affect everyone else on the ship??? It was not a virus. It was radiation poisoning contracted while on the surface of the planet, so it was not communicable from person to person, and only those on the planet's surface would be affected by it. The only problem I have with it is... yes, the adrenaline compound they came up with might have stopped the effects of the radiation poisoning, which mimicked rapid aging, but it would not have allowed the bodies to revert back to their normal selves so quickly. I've always questioned that. As for the "Friday's Child" episode... for those of us old enough to remember, we just consider this as the episode that guest starred "Cat Woman"... because Julie Newmar was one of the actresses that played the Cat Woman character in the 1960s TV-series "Batman".
Think she wanted the baby to go with Mcoy to be safe, since the new leader would have insisted upon the baby's death. Of course that stupid Klingon ruined the whole plan.
Yesterday's Child is interesting trying to 'politely' deal with a society very different from your own.
The other was kind of interesting when I watched this in reruns. But now it hits differently with so many of the crew no longer with us. 😢.
Did you say "hits different"?
7:46 😏
I agree, one of the most interesting things about this one is how different Cappellan society is from our own.
In fact, I, for one, can see many ways the Cappellans are more like Klingons than Humans.
The disease was a form of radiation sickness which (I think) is not contagious which is why the other members of the crew were not affected.
^This. The crew on the ship were shielded in the ship, so they weren't exposed to the effects of the radiation.
@@timmooney7528 As I said: It is not transferable from person to person.
The term "captain" has two definitions in Starfleet. One is the top boss of the ship. This can be an officer of any rank. Like when Sulu or Scotty are put in command. But it can also be simply one's military rank. In Kirk's case, they both happen to apply. But it is possible to have captain's stripes on your sleeve -- but not be top boss of the ship. In the movie series, Spock and Scotty reach the rank of captain, but Kirk is still captain of the ship (despite holding the rank of admiral in the first two.
yeah the Captain of my first submarine, USS Florida SSBN-728, held the rank of Commander. But you still address him as "Captain" if you are a member of the crew. 🙂
(one thing that might confuse people from other branches: in the Navy, O-3 = Lieutenant, O-4 = Lieutenant Commander, O-5 = Captain.)
@@neutrino78x Indeed. Very small vessels can even have a LT J.G. as the "captain."
Spock stuck it to McCoy every chance he got. Bless him.
Yes, and it is so much fun to watch 😁
Hi Courtney :)
I used to think that the ranks depended on bring on a starship too. But there are Star base commanders who are captains and admirsls... Maybe some of them have never commented a starship. It's possible that Stocker was always a base commander and had never Bern out in the field, moving around.
Yes, that is what Captain Kirk said, Stocker had never been "in the field."
In the U.S. Navy we would say that Stocker has never been a Line Officer.
Officers who are not line officers are those whose primary duties are generally in non-combat specialties.
Weird...but fun. I always liked this one. Nice McCoy moments. Goofy costumes. Great stuff. B+
Yeah, we all all miss Yeoman Rand :(
Commodore Stocker is strictly a career starbase guy. He should've turned the Enterprise over to Sulu the moment things got heated.
Look beautiful in that cute grey hoodie Court 🙂 and Friday's Child was yet another episode of TOS that involved the Vasquez Rocks, between Santa Clarita and Palmdale, near Los Angeles, here in California! I recently heard that, in addition to looking like an alien planet, the area is used in movies and TV a lot because they can film there without having legal requirements to set up a camp for actors and crew to sleep overnight; it's considered close enough to the movie/TV studios in Los Angeles that people can get there in a reasonable period of time and is not considered "remote" for legal/union purposes. 🙂 I have actually never been there, though I've been to the Los Angeles/San Diego area many times! I have to go check it out at some point. It's a public park! 🙂
The 2nd one Deadly Years was another real classic episode that provokes thought about what we would do in that situation! And like you said, the future with the aging process is in store for all of us. I'm glad my dad, who I think is actually over 75 now, is still sharp, I have not noticed any signs of dementia. Just a few months ago he was tutoring Calculus..... (he has a BS in Electrical Engineering and his name on a couple patents for magnetic data storage. They don't give you residuals though, for engineering jobs here in Silicon Valley, they just pay you a high salary....I was privileged growing up, not so much now, now I'm in between jobs and kind of struggling argh! I did do a temporary job for the county though so I'm doing better. 🙂)
It is ok, McCoy is a doctor.
28:04 "Wouldn't it have made more sense to stay out of the Neutral Zone and _then_ contact them?"
Petition them for permission to cross? Maybe even an escort? It _might,_ if (1) they're willing to talk and (2) they're willing to be _charitable._ Personally, though, I've had occasion to wonder if the _Enterprise_ couldn't've just gone to Starbase 10 _around_ the Romulan territory. That wasn't even _considered._
Yes, “Fridays Child” was strange. I give it 2.5 out of 5 Frisbees with teeth.
Stocker could hav e served aboard a starship earlier in his career and had administrative positions thereafter. I think Spock was slow to realize Kirk's deterioration because of his affection for Kirk.
25:26 "Is not his _mental_ capacity degenerating even _more_ rapidly?"
I think that part is a source of _particular_ discomfort, for me. Physical deterioration is unfortunately, but unavoidable. The same holds true for _mental_ deterioration. But for the mental deterioration to happen _faster,_ well, that's the kind of thing that makes me want to seek a solution for that part _specifically._
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Fav scene is Kirk & Spock in the briefing room as two old friends breaking apart at possibly the end of their lives. Tragedy.
Foreshadowing what really happened to them in real life?😢
Sulu should’ve taken command
I can understand your confusion As to why a Commodore would not have Starship experience.
The reason why is because there are only a handful of Starships like the Enterprise. That's because this is the first generation of Deep Space exploration.
Only the best and the brightest get these ships. Captain Kirk is a prodigy. Throughout the series you'll notice that other captains are older than he is.
Except for Garth of Izar. :-)
I have never understood why they did not quarantine the entire away team.
Your policy of "not wasting time and getting right into it" will cause your channel to really flourish over all others.😀
Always like it when Scotty's in command. And that Commodore....why is it that when high ranking Star Fleet peeps show up on the ship, they always end up being complete idiots......now I know why they'e on a five year mission, to stay as far away from people like this as possible!
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35:11 Not bad. That was good thinking. 💡
Yeah Friday’s Child sucks. Fun fact, the pregnant gal is played by Julie Newmar, one of the 3 Catwoman actresses from the Adam West Batman era.
You have seen another commodore in the 2 part episode with Pike - Commodore Mendez runs the starbase. I just looked him up on Memory Alpha wiki and he doesn’t have starship experience specifically listed, although that doesn’t mean anything.
Julie Newmar also appears on an episode of The Monkees. They all fall in love with her at the laundromat.
This commodore did great on the written portion but not so well on the practical side.
1:07 Why? Because he's a red shirt.😅
True!
"Friday's Child"
1. For me this was middle of the pack.
2. McCoy and Scotty got love.
3. A little levity is always fun.😁
"The Deadly Years"
1. Once again, yet another "I outrank you so what I want is what happens" idiot.🤬
2. Is that "love interest really necessary? 🙄
3. To me it sounds like Deforest Kelley is trying too hard. I wasn't a fan when he used a Southern accent in the other episode when they were overcome by the spores.
4. Time to suspend disbelief regarding how rapidly the "recovery" takes place.
5. "Miri" is an ageing episode.
Dee was from Georgia, he had a southern accent that he'd had to suppress for hollywood roles, so I think he was just tapping into that rather than "trying too hard"