The Dark Side of Instagram Hair Stylists | Bri Hall (Mini Documentary)
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- This video is long overdue. PLEASE share your experiences with social media hairstylists and the dark side of booking I would love to react to them
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Comment your experience with social media hairstylists below! Am I alone in this feeling? Let's talk about it
Girl paid $300 for a silk press for this stylist to show up $35 minutes late, with her kids and laundry basic, use her own products that didn’t clarify so I walked out with a oily silk press…when I tell you HURT! I was LIVID!
Went to get my hair done in medium sized passion twist. Spent 10-12 hours with the hairstylist playing around with others, stopping to dance, and worst of all did a totally different style in my head. Never going to her again.
Unrelated but your hair looks goodt!!! ❤❤❤
Same, my stylist moved to newyork and another one also moved so never been to a salon since
Please do a fellow up video on natural hair care scammers
When I saw the young lady that lost her eye because the stylist left the Got2b bottle near a heating source and it exploded, that was it for me. An unlicensed stylist will NOT be seeing me.
Oh my gosh?!?!?!???? Where can I find this story? Woah
Tanajah Johnson, a 14 YO from detroit. It was big news there. Poor girl, went to an unlicensed stylist in a clothes store- an Instagram stylist who was only 23.
Ehhh... wah?!
That is so tragic.. I feel like so many of these stylists don't take health and safety seriously and it is one of the MOST important parts of any job no matter how good they are at styling!!
WTF..
I think this is similar to the Keith Lee incident. Many Black people thinking they don’t need to treat black customers with respect, kindness, and professionalism. What’s so hard to understand? If you treat people right they will come back.
I totally AGREE💕👌🏾…It’s like they feel & act, as though they’re doing you a FAVOR, instead of a SERVICE that they’re being PAID TO DO!! SMH😒
A lot of hairstylists do not make the effort to be professional because most black have accepted their lack of professionalism, they still show up regardless. If black people decided to raise their standards, professionals would be forced to do better.
AND appreciation for the business. Like be happy that you are thriving in a business because you have clients and treat clients well!!!
@@sundaylibreI say this all the time.
@@sundaylibre for real!
I found a hairstylist that actually washes hair and braid NATURAL 4 type hair, so this past Christmas I had to buy her a Christmas present because there's no way I'm going back into the trenches of black hairstylists.
💕🙏🏽Lucky you!💕🙏🏽
Not the trenches!😂😂. But yeah, you’re right!!😂😂
@@user-ih6vg4rr9r 😄
They want to live that Celebrity -Stylist lifestyle they see on social media by setting Celebrity Stylist prices, but without the Celebrity Stylist credentials, experience or service 😂
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Lol this made something click for me. Because this type of stylist started with celebrities. It’s regular people wanting to copy celebrities (very common) that made that industry grow. But the celebrities aren’t hiring anybody from IG, they’re working with licensed and experienced hair professionals.
@ninanano plus these celebrities get alot of free services.
Girl.. I haven’t gotten my hair done professionally since 2012 because I am legitimately scared 😅
FELT! It's such a process finding people
YOU SHOULD BE LOL
Same
@@Datb2😂😂
Sameeeeee
Previously licensed cosmetologist here. Fun fact! More than technique although very important. Being licensed is more of a public safety matter. Hair styles come in contact with many many people. Outbreaks can happen at anytime and rapid (lice, scabies, ect). The education of infection control and cleanliness is the true main benefit of going to a licensed cosmetologist. And actually is the reason why it's its state regulated.
Love your videos!
Fr I’m in beauty school rn and I fear for any woman going to ANYONE who isn’t licensed performing any beautification service, there’s just too many horror stories 😭
That's why I just go to the hair salon, if I go to someone's house it is ONLY for braids 😅 and I don't even do that often @@Wysteria_Eve
This conversation is so wild cause some of the new stylists dont quite understand the point of building clientele. If you do a great job on my hair, of course im going to spend my coins with you, consistently
Correct!
Respect has a lot to do with it.
If you got me, I GOT YOU. The tip will be at the very least 20%, I’ll work w your schedule etc.
But you have to build that relationship and confidence.
And I'm going to refer you! You have no idea a person's reach or who they know.
And you will tell your friends
They don’t care about that they rely on social media for promo. They probably think “I might lose this client but I can just promote better on IG”. Back then stylists didn’t have that so they actually cared to provide a good service so people could come back
There are physical and spiritual reasons why you shouldn't let just anyone in your hair
This. I already am VERY PICKY about who I allow to do my hair. FACTS.
100% agree with you
I found an amazing stylist who is always booked. She is literally an OG stylist, but can compete with new stylist. She washes and conditions, teaches hair health, and you leave feeling good. Plus no deposit and affordable prices. Only issue is she is always booked up. Her clients like myself are extremely loyal because she is a gem.
Omg.. this is why im SO grateful for my old school stylist. This digital age created so many entitled individuals its just scary.
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I am glad I learned to make my own wigs, wash, condition and blow dry, braid or twist for myself. I won't trust them, I got burned over 20 years ago and got to leering, and my hair has never been the same since. Be very careful who you let touch your hair.
@@realreviews4017 YT is such a blessing in that sense. I learned a lot on it. ❤
it’s not the digital age. boomers and gen x are just well… entitled.
@@asmrtpop2676@asmrtpop2676 they didn't say an age. They said people the be on the internet feel themselves too much with little to no skills or license to back it, just internet hype. You're offended like someone said an age? Lol.
They starting to throw the word “luxury” on their services. Like girl what😂😂😂…
I’m also here in LA, and we got to talk about how these girlies are trying to charge celebrity prices for us regular ppl. God forbid you do find someone who DOES have reasonable prices and they do one celebrities hair. It’s a wrap
And then the quality of the styling varies so drastically person to person
I got scammed by a stylist in LA, KarlJ “the celebrity” stylist. He missed my appointment and has yet to return my deposit.
@@s_impeccable3872Do a chargeback on your card for services not received.
@@s_impeccable3872Do a charge back on your card for services not received
This is a trend not just in LA it seems smh
I was scammed before my wedding anniversary cruise. The shop didn't even exist. I hopped on CZcams and braided my own hair. I didn't have time to panic; it didn't turn out too bad so a new skillset was unlocked by inconvenience.
Necessity begets creativity. Good for you! 💒
Barbicide is unheard of with these IG hairstylists. I don’t think I’ve ever seen it.
ME NEITHER!!! GIRL SAD!!!
many keep it in the back in a big vat. youre supposed to scrub the tools with soap and water and then put it in the disinfectant. makes it easier to keep the disinfectant near the dispensing sink
O no
It’s because they are unlicensed. If they were licensed they would have used it in school after every practice and real services.
I don’t support it because half the time they want to charge these prices to be eating seafood boils and go on lavish vacations. Then the way they speak to people is so nasty. No license. Recording with no permission. Just so much I’ll just do my own or look crazy
Not seafood boils chile 😩😂
The seafood boil aspect is too accurate 🤣🤣🤣
I'd rather take my own money and take myself on vacation than pay these heifers 1000 bucks like I'm a celebrity. That's 2 weeks in Europe!!
As an African woman, the fact that salons in the US do NOT wash hair is MIND BOGGLING to me. We can literally make appointments just to wash our hair and get a treatment. No braids needed.
A lot of the social media stylists aren’t necessarily licensed and so they technically aren’t allowed to wash hair.
@@rebel1612That doesn’t matter. The price’s are outrageous regardless!! Just in general!!
They have places that just do this though. Right? 🤷
REAL hair salons do wash and treat hair. Not these instagram cosmologists 😂 it’s a difference
Appointments to take out your braids before they wash it as well.
I learned how to do box braids over quarantine and I’m so glad I did. It’s not perfect, but I have control over the tension and how it looks. And most importantly, I’m saving $$$s of dollars.
Love that I'm trying to learn passion twists because I love the style and would like to just do it in my home
This!
I've had most compliments on my braids when I did them myself. The irony. Someone asked me 300 bucks for senegalese twists. I bought a few packs at SHEIN for 3 bucks each, which cost me less than 20 bucks, and did my own braids. Ohhh the compliments I got. I would definitely pay for 300 to 700 for hair, if I could afford it, but in a LUXURY salon which also means the services, experience, advice, products and results are entirely different 🙄🙄🙄
My braider was 30 minutes late then took a 30 minute break without letting me know and came back on hair with her hands smelling of food. Sick of it
Ew! Smh 🤦🏾♀️
i talk about this ALL the time. the root of the issue is GREED and LAZINESS. wanting to become one’s own boss to make the most money while doing the least work!! It’s happening all across the special service industry.
I'm from an Eastern European country and here it is unthinkable that a hairstylist wouldn't wash your hair before cutting it or dying it
It is unthinkable for stylists to constantly cancel on you or ignore your messages too. Never heard of such a lack of proffessionalism as a whole.
@melrye7350 for real!!!! I'm up in Canada too and u have type 4 hair I go to what some may call a "white salon" but my hairdresser DOES ME RIGHT!!! I gladly tip because home girl be washing, conditioning, blow drying and flat ironing for $80 dollars. I feel appreciated as a client and not some chump who is wasting their time.
I booked with a stylist last August she canceled apologized and gave me my deposit back, I still wanted to give her a chance her work was amazing to me. Had an appointment booked for this Wednesday, she ignored my text and calls she even disabled her instagram, waited for 30 mins then left. Soon as I walked out the building my deposit was sent back with no apology or anything. Then today she put her instagram back up talking about how she’s accepting appointments for next week, I just laughed reacted the story and unfollowed her.
Sex, drugs and r&b ….
Wow that’s crazy!
wth?!
Tf!!!
@@BrendaBaBoom??
A stupid wig stylist got my car towed when I went to her… she didn’t tell me anything abt them towing cars in that apartment complex and I ended up having to pay extra $200 just to get my car back.. she almost ruined my whole birthday since she made me miss my makeup appointment cuz she had someone in there when I got there.. The professionalism is really low with these hair stylists honestly 🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️
I would have taken her to court.
What the heck is a wig stylist? Do you ever question these dumb names that people make up? There’s no such thing as a wig stylist. You can put a wig on your own head. You can buy a wig in the hairstyle that you actually want. Stop giving your money away.😢
@@ladyofthecenturyokay!! Ppl need to buy mannequin heads and learn on CZcams. These “stylists” aren’t worth it!
@@ladyofthecenturygirlie, clearly you don’t know a thing about wigs. If you’re wearing wigs and you want a well-styled wig, it’s best to go to a professional.
@@ladyofthecenturya stylist that only does wig services. It takes more work if you want it to look natural than to just buy a cheap wig from a beauty supply store and slap it on your head 😂
I can't and won't blame CZcamsrs for teaching us to do our own hair because none ever pushed for us to do others hair. It has always been about empowering you the individual to do your own hair. I have been doing my own hair for over a decade now and I have gotten ask to do other people's hair and I recommend them to stylist i personally know can accomplish what they need. People need to have integrity.
That's my two cents 😊
I agree. The influencer bashing needs to stop. People of African descent have always had to move out on our own to get answers. We should begin to work together, not perpetuate a rivalry.
I am a licensed cosmetologist & i can’t stand a lot of these “new rules” within my field. However I’ve noticed that clients would rather go to the hair stylist with a bigger name and more followers VS a licensed professional with class. The bookings show for itself. It’s unfortunate but we will live & learn i hope lol. Great video btw. As always!
I'm looking for a licensed cosmetologist in my area. I even broke my shyness and asked ladies on my campus. The ones who were willing to talk to me told me they didn't live in this area or they did it themselves. The others would give me attitude and tell me they don't talk to Strangers and to leave them alone. It's hard and lonely out here.
Agreed
Where are you located?
I would prefer if the stylist _does not_ have a big name and they do great work without breaking the bank.
Here’s the thing, older stylist need to adapt with the times as well. Many people use social media and online as a way to find new products, stylists and services. If you aren’t anywhere online and not posting your work, then the chance of anyone finding you is slim. It’s not like back in the day when everything was more community oriented and you could just hear word of mouth or walk through your neighborhood and find a shop. I don’t want to go to someone who has no pictures or videos of their work, no official website, no reviews, or no way to be found online
No because frfr I got a frontal sew in for my wedding and tell me why the NEXT DAY my frontal was lifted and the stylist told me it would be another fee to fix it... Girl I already paid almost $500 for the hair and install 🙄
Listen the nerve of some of these “stylists” just pisses me off…I’m not volunteering to throw away my money
Not the next day!? Omg what did you do?
THE NEXT DAY!! Girl I demanded my money back and the response was after 24 hours she's not liable.... Never again
I had mine glued on and removed the same day. I'm not sleeping with a wig on. We have fragile edges in my family.
that's how you know they don't give a damn about keeping clientele. these stylists are just worried about being their own boss and making money. if you actually cared about the longevity of your career, you'd fix your mistakes and be accountable. girl I'm so sorry you went through that. if you're dropping half a stack, it better look GOOD
People have HIV/aids, fungus, lice, etc. I went to beauty school and disinfection as well as blood exposure was a huge deal. You don’t know certain things unless you’re taught. Plus every state has different rules. Beauty school and getting your license is very very very important.
I have fine, dry, easily tangled hair… in 2014 I had a stylist shame me for not washing my natural hair with shampoo every week (I co-washed in between). She didn’t offer me advice on what to do to better the health of my hair. Then proceed to tear through and over heat my hair & blamed me for all the hair that fell out. I was so ashamed, embarrassed , and never had another person touch my hair since.
Similar hair and now with a sensitive scalp too.
As a mua with a cosmetology license and someone who grew up in a "old school" hair salon, I thank you for this video. This was full of truth and education. We used to call unlicensed hair dressers kitchen ticians. My family salon has been in business for 40 years through just word of mouth. Clients have left and returned with damaged hair because social media said. What most people don't realize is haircare and skincare is rooted in chemistry. Techniques and product ingredients go hand in hand.
Also, cosmetology requires continuous education. Most pro stylists go to shows and take classes as they progress in their careers
Yes, yes. Im an old school Licensed Cosmetologist. Its all chemistry, sanitation and hygiene. Also, customer service and technique(s) when dealing with clients, and business management skills.
1) You gotta sell drugs to afford these stylists these days. And 2) the way idgaf about respectability anymore. My hair is my hair. Say what you want but I’m doing what’s best for me and my scalp.
$1100 for Boho Locs… $180 for two cornrows!!!!
Me going to the white Aveda Salon since 2010....... Yeah I wanna support black females-owned businesses but are they really supporting me? my trichologists are black females and they done more for me in their clinic than any black stylist male or female.
@@marleyhill34 TIL what "trichologist" means! Thank you!
@marleyhill34 I think you meant your White hair service providers have done more for your hair....?
@@sherrisolomon2843 The black female trichologists and the white female and male stylists have done more for my hair and scalp than any black stylist male or female. My current stylist is a male Polynesian/Tongan. I see him about 3-4 times a year and the trichologists about 3-4 times a year.
This might be controversial:
I attended a high-end private cosmetology school aimed at training elite hairdressers. Despite expressing my concerns about the lack of focus on textured hair throughout my training, the response was consistently, "They have their own salon". I was like… "why do you think that is?"
I wanted to seek further education in textured hair to fill the gap in basic knowledge but didn’t want to appear as if I’m tryna replace black hairdressers knowing I couldn’t compete anyway. I cannot tell you how shocked I was when my textured hair friends BEGGED me to learn while complaining about how hard it was to find decent textured hairstylists who offer great client care (specially when not living in the metropole). Truth is, they didn’t care if I’m part of the community, when they go to the salon, they want to feel pampered (not working) even if it means going to someone a bit less talented.
The saddest part is, as the white hair industry neglected black hair, some took their clientele for granted, ignoring the increasing education available to those, like me, eager to learn. While black stylists could rightfully blame cultural appropriation, could they also blame their ex clients for choosing a hairdresser who is upfront about pricing, provides complete services, and prioritizes the overall customer experience? I’m all for supporting black owned businesses but what’s empowering about giving your community a lower standard of service?
P.S I want to emphases, this is just what I heard through personal experiences. I do know terribly impolite white hairdressers and very nice black hairdressers.
Appreciate that this is a historical approach and not just a bashing session.
There is so much nuance to this topic tbh 🙌🏽 Thank you for watching and your positive feedback 🥹
Bashing sessions are necessary sometimes. Why spare their feelings, they don’t spare our pockets. Part of the problem is that they’re not being made to feel ashamed of their behavior.
@@4thTribeJudiththis!!! I'm seeing so many comments of people getting scammed by these kitchen ticians. and if they're not exposed, they're gone keep doing it!!!
I had a silk press apt I booked on booksy and I freaked out the day of debating if I should wash my hair or not because I didn’t see any rules or anything. I barely had time after I got off work but i ended up doing it and running a couple of minutes late to my appt to which I then freaked out even more over because I’m so used to mean ass entitled hairstylists and thought they’d cancel my appointment. But luckily it was a traditional hair stylist, a middle aged black woman and she was so sweet! She washed and blow dried my hair AND used heat protectant. Was not used to that at all…. We also talked the whole time instead of just sitting in silence for hours like some ig stylists 😅 AND she wouldn’t even let me tip her…. These ig stylists are getting greedy af they don’t care about providing a service for someone. It’s only about the money for them, let’s be real.
and, the silk press was silking 😊
I’m happy for you! ❤ it’s not easy these days
I love old school hairstylists like that. I had one in my childhood.
Home stylists making pharmacist hourly pay is crazy
Love this!! As a licensed cosmetologist , I truly appreciate you covering these topics. It’s insulting to see how some of these “stylists” operate…
Thank you! It's such a layered topic hoping to see changes in the near future
I’m a licensed cosmetologist. When I went to school (2006). The African American. Curriculum was very small, braids, waves, marcel iron styles and basic hair styling. They didn’t show you everything on how to style black hair. I think it’s partially because black hair changes rapidly in terms of styles compared to white styles. I feel as though I learned enough to know how to maintain and keep hair on my clients head. “Hair care” was essential. Now lace wigs , micro links, faux locs and these things are new. How to install and maintain all these new styles the board would literally have to keep updating their curriculum every year to keep up with the instruction and maintenance to all of this. I think we as black women need to learn how to maintain our own hair. That’s the root of all of this I think. When I was growing up most if not all women I knew had an idea how to maintain their hair at home. Getting your hair done exclusively was unheard of unless you were more affluent. All these wigs and weaves aren’t worth it clearly that’s what this video is about. Most of the styles aren’t good for your hair or your health( in terms of the chemical used).
That’s what I do. I braid my own hair unless it’s a style I can’t do. And I only got my hair professionally braided once in the last 5 years. However, I do go see my stylist twice per year to make sure I’m maintaining it well. Other than that, it’s just me and this head lol
I got my hair layered to take weight out & now it’s a pain to braid. Any tips plz? 🙏
the cosmetology school I went to didn't even have a unit on African/ textured hair. I asked why, and was told "they do each other's hair, so we don't need to know"
one of the reasons I dropped out. I wanna be able to do every client that comes to my chair. that's just common sense
im not even black but somehow ended up on the black hair side on instagram reels, and saw so many girls complaining about unprofessional stylists and their work. what shocked me how much some of the stylists charge, women saying how they somehow have to pay 2000$ for simple box braids. as i obviously never needed that kind of service, i felt so bad for the ones who have to pay so much for it and then they are sadly not even satisfied with the results. but i still find those videos super interesting, i always find it super impressive how much you can do with your hair, your skills and how much you know about haircare really amaze me. even helps me as a white girl from poland with wavy hair since most hair salons in europe focus on completely straight hair :)
you look gorgeous btw!!
A huge reason why I ended up going natural and ultimately getting locs. 😂 I was so damn tired.
I don't blame you. I went and got locs too. I'm way happier tbh.
I was so glad to hear you include the hair boards/forums. I was a huge part of that in the early 2,000’s and we tend to get completely skipped over and all credit given to CZcams’rs when in reality the natural hair movement started on those boards. I was there, it was wild times lol. We were coming up with all kinds of stuff and going against the grain to wear our hair natural when it was not popular at the time. I learned a ton and had so much fun. A lot of those boards are still there ….Long Hair Care Forum, Nappturality, Black Hair Care Forum. Most go back to about 03’. Such great times.
I still miss BHM😢
Ahhh those were the days. I was young (15) but I SO looked forward to logging into Nappturality after I got home from school in the 2000s.
OMG LHCF was where I learned to love my hair. Simpler times!
These sites came in clutch!! Styles and DIY!!!
Girl yesssssss. Those boards taught me soooooooo much. I'm forever grateful
My stylist is such a blessing. He doesn't overbook and truly understands natural hair. Focuses on his client and is constantly learning and teaching. My former stylist was too focused on Instagram and because of that her service declined. I was done when she burned my hair and I had to visit my current stylist to correct it and helped to repair my hair.
It’s sad bc it’s always black hairstylists that I’m hearing so many horror stories about (I’m black)!
Also let’s talk about these cosmetologists that agrees to doing your hair a certain way knowing damn well they aren’t good that that hair style 😭 I was a victim to that just like the girl with the red locs
Thank you for this video. I went to a stylist and I wanted a straight bang….. she cut my eyelid, which I will now forever wear a scar. Please ladies and gents, be picky with who you trust with your hair.. for me it was more than my hair but my actual face. She had the nerve to offer a discount…. 😢
WOW…😮SMH…UNBELIEVABLE!
Girl…. You did your big one with this one 👏🏽👏🏽. I love the way you laid out the facts in addition to sharing the history of salons and black hair in America. I enjoyed every second of this video. Thank you 🤎🤎
Aghhh! So happy you enjoyed it! Had to come with the research
It’s literally a racquet. So many scammers and unprofessional people. I’ve met good ones too but the bad ones are messing it up for them. There is definitely going to be a resurgence of real shops.
Let’s talk about it!! I was going to a popular curly hair salon in Orlando, FL for 2 years and I had to stop giving them my money!! The tardiness, the ROUGH pulling out of hair detangling, the no talking/conversation regarding hair, pickiness of clients, and so much more! Worse part was that, everyone working in that salon also had thick, kinky hair. A shame.
They were bullying you. For what reason? Who knows. But they singled you out and it's not cool.
I’m locked in with my auntie aged salon owner. I stopped messin with those IG girls. She gets me right every time and we have a good time chit chatting too. She ALSO has given me discounts when she overbooks and my appointment takes longer than expected bc she knows good customer service ❤
So grateful I have a hairdresser that works AMAZINGLY with natural hair. And she doesn’t charge me an arm and a leg for what she does.
I pay 140$ (that’s with a tip) for a wash, cut, color, and then styled either straightened or she will finger curl my curls-just depends on how she’s feeling.
And I also let her pick my hair colors. I’m her favorite client cuz I get fun colors AND I let do her thing.
She’s an artist and I appreciate her art and trust her.
I’m so sorry so many of you are traumatized by bad hairdressers.
I tried to go to a stylist to learn how to care for my hair, after care etc. She said she could do that if I paid her a $400 curly consulting fee...i went to you tube 😂
lol! Not even my Trichologists charge that much for a consultation!!!
I had an appointment canceled 😠 once before I was supposed to get braids for a concert. She had the 15 min late clause. I couldn’t find the salon in time which made me late and she kept my deposit and cancelled me. I was furious, I literate wanted to drive my car through the braid shop front window. 😂 I screamed in anger
Yes I went when I was natural and I dont know what that lady did to my hair but my hair was never the same after that!
Sis get you a braided wig and call it a day. Don't let these people stress you out. Also crochets are faster.
As someone who grew up with a mother that knew absolutely NOTHING about caring for natural hair… when COVID happened, I was devastated. We both were! I’m also thankful for all the hair tutorials on CZcams & the natural hair movement for uplifting me when my hair was natural and educating all of us on how to do our own hair! I decided to do a big chop in 2021 & it’s much healthier now. And as of 2023, I can confidently say I’m able to do my own hair but I’ve definitely experienced some craziness from going to strictly salons (or even beauty schools in order to save money) from age 7/8 to age 22 😅
I started a new job before the pandemic and my plan was to go to the salon every week/biweekly to get my hair done.
The lockdowns forced me to learn how to do my own hair (natural/curly and straighten.)
CZcams was a freaking godsend
WELL MF SAID BRI! Felt like I was watching a hair documentary. I felt triggered (in a good way because these are things I've noticed and thought about recently) I've decided to do my own hair going forward. I'm tired of the deposits and the unanswered texts and the "natural hair specialists" that rips my hair out. Per my recent video on my channel, I've decided to wear my hair in plaits for 2024. anyway....Thank you for the conversation!
Yes omg! It has gotten so out of hand and out of pocket! Your hair is going to flourish this year!
@@SmartistaBeauty thanksssssss I'm praying for tailbone length. tryna get like you my boi
I’m so glad I have the same stylist of 20 years, at the end of the day the reason this is an issue is because ppl are patrons of these “establishments”…if ppl didn’t patron these so called businesses this wouldn’t be an issue.
It’s cheaper to buy a $400 wig with these practices.
TBH
Fr better pull up a CZcams install tutorial 🙄. At least that’s free and I can protect my edges.
@@godiswithyou.5358Literally what I had to do, and I have a whole license 🙃 a damn shame, so much I had to learn on my own. Makes me mad all the time & dedication it took me to get that, and having to pretty much teach myself so many more things like wigs, and basic damn cornrows! 💀
@@godiswithyou.5358thiss!
Definitely. There's black female owned businesses doing braided wigs now!
Ahh, I almost cried during the 2010s portion. I really learned how to do my hair and the importance of hair as a young black woman from CZcams. 2010s were good times!
Once upon a time in the 90's, getting your hair done in a shop was an experience. They had full on services and nail tech in some salons. My mom was always getting her hair done, but I didn't experience it like my mom because I eventually learned how to do my own hair. I can literally count on one hand how many times I've gotten my hair done professionally. I've heard the horror stories of stylists today, and I'm just too scared to trust these new stylists, and the prices are just above me 😆. I'll just keep doing my own hair.
Watching this video after I just left my professionally licensed natural hairstyles who wash, conditioned, trimmed and Styled my hair.... When you find a good one never let them go!
I have decided to stop using those ig stylists it’s not worth the hassle. They charge insane amounts, are incredibly rude, late, some are charging deposits that don’t go toward the style costs, unprofessional, and lazy! It’s crazy. I won’t give them my money. I wish everyone else would stop.
Loved hearing an educated perspective to this hairstylist crisis. I have made it my business to go back natural and wearing my own hair to avoid it.
I have four horror stories. I finally found someone for wigs and locs and sticking to them forever.
I think it's very important in tis conversation to note that in some states it's illegal for braiders to wash and blow dry hair without a license.
Exactly this!
It be the rules, regulations and deposits for me. I refuse to pay $3,912 for somebody to spray Got2b Glue on my head or charge me for parting my hair with an attitude and unprofessionalism.
God forgive me if I book a nail service and change my mind or the design I originally picked.
Don’t have 4c Hair either. You getting charged extra extra.
No Thank You!
I’ve been self sufficient for years in doing my own hair and nails.
The audacity be on sale with these people.
It because a bunch of people got into it to make money rather than because they have a passion for the art/ trade. That is why customer service and hospitality ain’t a thing. Also these prices and all the Prerequisite to getting your hair done is pure laziness. They’re not trying to give you a full service but to just squeeze in as many clients as they can to get more money! I remember this girl tried to charge me an extra $80 only because my hair was long for the same exact style as my friend, and I said hell no and did the braids myself (thank GOD I can do all my maintenance myself)
I recently went to a “salon” to get a wash, press, and trim. My nana goes to this lady, so I thought I’d try her out. I wanted to cry. I should’ve left, but my nana was there getting her hair done as well. She told me to just give it a try. Firstly, the lady overbooked herself. She had a sew in, loc retwist, and me all at once. Btw, my appt was at 3:30 and I didn’t leave until about 7PM. She asked her coworker to blow dry my hair. Nobody detangled me, she barely conditioned my hair, and they didn’t use heat protectant. She had her flat iron in the stove as if it wasn’t already hot on its own, and used the wax stick all throughout my hair. She did multiple passes and went in with the hot comb as well. I would’ve been better off doing it myself. I could’ve saved my money. I paid for someone to damage my hair and the sad part is, she’s just going to keep doing it to others until someone tells her. I’ve got to get into cosmetology school and also find the time/patience to do my hair. I am a stay at home mom during the weekdays, and work on the weekends so it’s hard, but I will never go to the salon again
It’s absolutely Criminal that they went in with no heat protectant, I’m so sorry you went through that.
Oh baby this is journalism. I have been letting the algorithm do its thing while keeping I braid my hair and this is the second video that has completely captivated me. Subscribed.
out of big three : nail techs , hairstylists & lash tech’s .
i always found hairstylists the most unprofessional.
CZcams (including you, bri) helped me learn to love and nourish my hair. Which helped with the self love journey. I let go of salons because I just hated being tied down to that two week schedule, can’t wet it, can’t alter it, I felt like a slave to my hair before going natural. Then I was a slave to my natural hair in a different way, before getting locs lol.
Anyway, I haven’t been in a salon since 2013. Stylists just never did my hair how I wanted it 🤷🏾♀️ I was NEVER satisfied. I’d ask for specific things and they’d just do whatever they wanted to do 😂 and I mean this was a licensed stylist in a whole credible shop.
I ALWAYS felt like I could do a better job with my hair than a stylist and I did and do! Our hair is personal. Stylists have many clients. Not every stylist has the time or want to treat your hair how you’d treat it, yourself. It’s like the difference of something homemade and something made in a factory. Nobody pays us to do our own hair. So when we do our own hair it comes from us wanting to look and feel good and to treat ourselves well. But with stylists, they’re getting paid. They’re on the clock. It’s work. A job. They’re on go go go go next client next client next client. There’s less room for that individual care that we would give to our own hair. The best thing I could’ve done was learn to do my own hair.
Bri, your storytelling skills have always been remarkable but you are really putting in WORK with collecting this information and editing! Thank you for bringing another great conversation to the table and keeping it entertaining as well!
We literally need a black hair directory. I’ve lived in NYC for 5 years and still have no clue where to reliably get my hair done. So many horror stories and so many hoops to jump through!!!
So true it's like I'm holding on to my last 3 stylists for dear life 1) AFRICAN BRAIDER
2) Dominican stylist
3)Myself 😂😂😂😂😂
And I barely trust them now because all this new hair stuff is insane!!!!
I went to cosmetology school in the 90s. The curriculum lacks diversity. I went to two schools. I left knowing how to do old white ladies hair from those ppl. My Black hair stylist friends were bomb! Not one of those schools taught us how to do Black hair outside of relaxers, permanent waves aka jherri and wash and roller sets. Our Black instructors were limited in what they could teach us. We had to teach and learn from each other. They told us they didn’t teach Black hair care (theory or practicum) because it’s not on the State Board exams. I learned quickly why some Black stylists were not up with the latest trends. You had to take additional classes or go to hair shows because we didn’t have the Internet😩…as you can see by my username, I changed career paths. I figured out I only wanted to learn how to do my hair and didn’t learn that ish from school. Thank God for Pell grants.
You taped into the real issue at the end a little bit when you said natural hair isnt seen as professional in its regular state. Why can anyone with a straighter hair texture wash there hair detangle it and let it dry be deemed as appropriate but mine is not simply because its an afro. It sucks that the further your features differ from whiteness you are seen as less than or unkept.
I’m just on 1:17 & just a week ago, I THOUGHT I found someone who can do hair affordably with wash and blow dry included ($165 traditional sew in). All for her to not even be in the shop during my scheduled appt, her mom had to start my wash and blow 35mins after my scheduled appt time. there was already a client in her chair, that her mom was also helping do ‘til her daughter showed up. Oh yeah. And all of this caused me to run late into another appt I had scheduled later on that day. & the stylist shows up & the stylist still wanted to charge me FULL PRICE. Definitely informed her of all the inconveniences and got $20 off. I’m done with these stylist !
We also need to talk about consumerism as a community. We’re being constantly influenced to purchase and try new hairstyles and products.
I have multi textures 3c 4a 4b hair that waves at the roots. I went to walmart smart styles got 7 zigzag cornrows got hair washed/ condition, hair steamed hair blown out, for sixty two dollars 62 $ I left 15$ tip. They threw the steaming treatment and blow out in for free. I was shocked at the low price.
I go to Aveda with majority white clients and come out feeling like a new woman. It's more expensive. 100-200 but no damage and just chill and professional and treat me like a human being instead of a pay check.
New (white ) hair stylist here, seeking information on textured hair this was great thank you so much.
This is why I learnt to do my own hair
I haven't been to a salon in almost a decade. I went when I first went natural, and it was an awful experience. The stylist didn't listen to what I wanted and never called me by my name. I was "the natural girl" the time I was there. Never went back.
I go to a salon..... Aveda with white majority clientele. I have 2 black trichologists who run a clinic and focus on health.
This was such a good overview of this current state of the hair community! So well explained and executed. You always deliver! 🥰
Thank you so much!!
The mini doc we didn’t know we needed! Sis! You asked us our feedback on sooo many topics! But ima say this…I don’t think it’s a stylist change or an industry change…I think it’s both.
Hairstylist nowadays are bullies literally as of right now My aunt is the one doing my hair I don’t go to hairstylist anymore because of the way to keep people with 4c hair like me and I just think it’s weird even if I blow out my hair is still gonna be very thick what even surprise me is they would talk badly about my hair in front of my face just because I am a teenager 🙁
This video was executed very well! It was very informative, funny , relatable also it inspired me to start learning how to do my own hair. This is why I love your videos so much! It truly is a struggle just getting my hair done I dread going to the salon these days because you never know what you’re going to get 😞
I truly love your approach to this topic. I can not wait to see more. Given the fact the I am a hairstylist, i love how you highlight the pros and cons of it all!
In my opinion, I think when someone from (out of their home)asks you to come shampooed and blow dried it’s mostly for a braided process. It does take a while to do braids depending on how small they are. If it’s a cosmetologist in a salon you will automatically get all of that no question. Also SOME people know they wouldn’t wanna sit in someone’s chair 8 plus hours. To tell you the truth the ones saying come shampooed and blown out probably has no experience with doing those things and don’t plan on having it.
Hell no lmao. Im Armenian so i dont have this type of hair but i kept catching nyself screaming "youre charging HOW MUCH TO DO BRAIDS ON ME?!" 😂😂
You came with all the facts. Your hair looks so beautiful❤❤❤
Thank you for this video! As a beauty professional of 15 + years, I appreciate this content. A stylist is only as good as the work they do on their craft and the passion they have for the industry. Love this video!❤
Just 5 minutes in hearing about the history and how it relates to community and political changes is so fascinating, thankyou!
This was amazing !! Thank you . I am natural hair care specialist & A lot of these questions I have been asking myself and writing about . I have been both in a communal salon space and an individual suite space and I am returning to the communal space . We need more salon communal salon spaces that are not centered around one individual person(s) . It places a lot of unnecessary stress on both client and stylist and the stylist has a lot of unwarranted control . We need that 3rd space as a community, we need the flexibility, we need the accountability, we need that support, and as you mentioned the black dollar circulates more in these spaces. Think about vendors who would come into the shops and sell as well. I believe it’s time for us to not wait for the system to be fixed bc as long as it benefits them it won’t be ! We have to take matters into our own hands and adjust our attitudes& mindset regarding our hair and how we spend our money. My background is in psychology and the whole issue is deeply rooted in mental health . I’m standing on business regarding this issue and I thank you again for so eloquently putting into words what needs to be discussed!! Peace sis
I turn my hair to locks and I found a good hairdresser but she doesn't wash hair either and they do charge their own rates. Which can be frustrating. I also go to her home and not the salon. I wish the black community was more put together.
I LOVE YOU AND THIS! We are at the tipping point of a recession it hasn't happened yet but we are feeling the impacts and this documentary is so cool talking about the issues we've faced through all the adversity!!!
Love this Mini Doc Bri. This was phenomenally done.
Hey Bri! Love your video, it is very well researched. I went to college twice before going to cosmetology school and I think that made a huge difference. There are many ways to get your license, even through some high schools. So that also adds to the difference in professionalism across hairstylists, even the ones that did go to cosmetology school. But also when I looked for cosmetology schools, only one had just created a program that taught the basics of styling curly and coily hair… And that was Aveda, in 2021. Mind you, I still had more experience with different curl patterns than some of my instructors, because I have been braiding hair since I was in high school.
That’s why I always tell people they gotta stop assuming that you can learn everything you need to learn about this industry in school. Especially when every school isn’t created equal! And my program was $21,000 so in this economy it would be tough to go to school right now. Then people don’t realize that you have to be licensed to shampoo hair in most states! And when I tell you all these extra payments that comes with all the various licensure when you try to do this stuff, legally… It isn’t made for the people who don’t have money to spare or who don’t have a lot of clients.
Also, with Barbicide tools are not supposed to sit in it long term. The chemicals break down the actual tools. You are only supposed to let it sit in there for about 10 minutes depending on the tool. But it is definitely necessary!
Thank you for how thorough this was🙌🏾
Great video Bri ❤ honestly dealing with these shady hairstylists encouraged me to start doing my own hair back in high school, which led people to ask me to do their hair too but its not worth it anymore now 😕 I’ve been learning how to make an income doing my own hair & making content, i’ve heard it makes more money than doing others’ hair
Loved this video sooo much!! Well done!!
It happens here in Jamaica too. the IG braiders are out of control and I'm very glad to stick with my old school stylists because as a 4c girl, dont ask me to come washed and blow dried. I cannot blow dry my hair. And why am i spending 200us for braids and it doesnt include ntn. For context, on average with traditional braiders, it starts at roughly 30usd and it increases based on size and length. Its getting out of hand bcuz many of these IG stylist cannot healthily style 4c hair
I have 4c hair. I go to the white Aveda Salons in the UK. they do not ask me to come shampooed and blowdried for a trim and treatment. Lol! Unfortunately black stylists lost me the last 15 years. My trichologists are black but they focus on health and care of the hair and scalp and not the latest styles. Because most of the lastest styles are damaging.
@@marleyhill34 This is another thing we dont talk about. Some of these protective styles arent protective. They look nice but for 4c girlies, some of them are extremely damaging
@@annabananaSplitz1 i have ultra-fine hair and a sensitive scalp. Butt length bohemian braids with edge control all over my partings will leave me bald. Looks nice on other people but not for me.
Thank you for the video, I’m a hair braider, and it’s so sad that the minority of people who have no regard for their job, are being seen as a majority.
I’m based in Montreal, Quebec and being a braider is such an important part of the community. Not everyone can afford to open a salon to offer hair washing service, not everyone’s long term goal is to be in the beauty service industry, but it’s a needed service and a important of black culture. I personally have had some really amazing experiences while being a braider and have created some amazing bonds with my clients.
some nuance that needs to be added to this conversation though , is that some of the clients are disrespectful and have really bad communication skills…period,that contributes to a bad experience. And often it feels like a clients forgets that we’re people, they just see us as a robots providing a service.But we’re risking arthritis, severe back and neck pain, 12plus hour days to be paid less than minimum wage, and were retaining our culture in our communities especially braider in low black population communities like mine. Most braiders i know are extremely talented, professional and serious about what they do. I really think there needs to be more empathy on both sides.
See that's not nuance at all though if most of these people went to school and learned about business and had a license they'd know how customers are and it still has nothing to do with how you act. You as the business owner just have to decide not to work with them. A consumer doesn't need to come any kind of way unless you explicitly say you can't work with someone rude in a sweet way. Business classes would probably teach you how to deal with customers but how many people are going to go that far when you can just charge $1000 for one new client and blame them for any issues whether it was their fault or not
If you're having issues with your back as a business owner you have to adjust for your employee(yourself) that's not on the consumer!!!!! It's so important to go to school or take classes and or just anything when it comes to business because your blame should be on capitalism for how things run or you not having what you need not pushing that responsibility on a consumer because that's a quick way to lose you business over time. Learning what it means to be an entrepreneur is so important if you're not going to get licensed learning what a customer is responsible for is important learning what the gov is responsible for is important learning what you the business owner is responsible for is important. Every time someone has their own practice you have to remember you rely and should cater to you consumer and it is no longer about you because you chose this small sector of business that is reliant upon 1-on-1 buyers. It's much like renters and land owners they have the ability to blame and exploit renters so that's why regulation is necessary towards business owners not consumer because you will be a consumer at some point and if the responsibility falls on you you'll learn to do it on your own or switch business which is a consumer right. Producers and consumers both have rights and the buyer is responsible for not ruining you business coming in with a decent attitude being punctual but if you find a buyer not doing that you stop business with them to build credibility they don't have to change just like when you buy something you don't have to anything but pay basically
Mad appreciation for all the research work knowledge you put into this video. You've earned my sub!!!
**Me watching this as i do my own hair.** I don't trust people with my hair so no experiences i can share but this video had such great facts. Thanks for sharing!
This was so, so good!! ❤ The issue is beyond complicated, BUT the stylists could at least do what they are having people pay them for. Consumerism aside, respectability and acceptance politics aside… these “stylists” should have actual talent.