The Forgotten ArcSys Fighter - Battle Fantasia

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  • čas přidán 28. 02. 2024
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    Emiko Iwasaki interview going over Battle Fantasia development and her struggles as a woman in the games industry:
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Komentáře • 551

  • @chris835
    @chris835 Před 4 měsíci +367

    Damn, I didn't know Texans could confirm their dp's into dp from anywhere on screen. The more you know

  • @jenniferphoebe3393
    @jenniferphoebe3393 Před 4 měsíci +103

    I remember a conversion I had with Emiko Iwasaki in the mid-2010s. She was pretty bitter about her experience with Arcsys. She claimed she regularly got talked over and had to add a bunch of things to the game she didn't really want- she really wanted to make a more accessible game. I think she now works in MObile gaming. I hope she's doing well. This was the first fighting game with a woman lead designer.

    • @MyNamesNotLars1
      @MyNamesNotLars1 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Woman wanted to dumb it down and now works in movie games? Glad she was ignored and talked over.

    • @zy2239
      @zy2239 Před 4 měsíci +45

      @@MyNamesNotLars1Hahahahaha , bro …. This game would have done better simpler , she had the right idea just like RIOT is doing with 2XKO (Project L) . The sad thing is that due to cultural circumstances she wasn’t given total liberty with the IP as she wanted. But if you want to criticize her, then criticize the Men leading the simplification of Fighting Games at RIOT .

    • @trevorpearlharbor5171
      @trevorpearlharbor5171 Před 4 měsíci +23

      Outside of doing artwork for Arcsys, she actually dres for Marvel's Japanese branch. It really sucks that they didn't let Emiko make the game she wanted. I'll be honest, I wish Battle Fantasia was the simpler fighting game over Strive.

    • @jenniferphoebe3393
      @jenniferphoebe3393 Před 4 měsíci

      @@trevorpearlharbor5171I'm proud of what strive has done for diversification and fun in the community. We have plenty of good choices for simpler fighters these days- Granblue is pretty good too!

    • @lilacorkindheart8325
      @lilacorkindheart8325 Před 4 měsíci +3

      Everyone please calm down.
      Unless the person has some solid evidence of what they are saying, please do not asume anything.
      I'm sorry, but you are a stranger on the internet therefore I cannot take your word for it.
      There is enough turmoil and bile on the web allready.

  • @GELTONZ
    @GELTONZ Před 4 měsíci +106

    It's amazing how massively important Battle Fantasia is. It didn't just inspire SF4 to go 3D, rather when they did the early alpha tests of SF4 it was TERRIBLE because of the controls. Then they saw a Battle Fantasia machine at the arcade and said "THAT. Do it like THAT." More specifically, the alpha version of SF4 used full animation which made the controls TERRIBLE. 3D fighter style animation in a 2D fighter sucks because all attacks had too many frames. SFEX and Slap Happy Rythm Busters got around this by making the animations play ridiculously fast, but Battle Fantasia chose to force 3D models to behave like 2D sprites, having each frame be hand posed (and I'm pretty sure the hitboxes are in 2D too). This DRASTICALLY improved play control and well...paved the way for everything else that came after!
    Without Battle Fantasia, SF4 would have been terrible and the entire fighting game renaissance may have never happened.

    • @Marzimus
      @Marzimus Před 4 měsíci +9

      The more you know.. 💫

  • @MystGang
    @MystGang Před 4 měsíci +196

    10:02 I mean, Texas is the origin of the DP (Dr. Pepper)

  • @AfroRyan
    @AfroRyan Před 4 měsíci +240

    I genuinely love Battle Fantasia. I wish Arcsys would have included a Battle Fantasia character in their crossover game Blazblue Tag Battle.

    • @deciduous_reaper
      @deciduous_reaper Před 4 měsíci +27

      Would’ve been cool but I’m guessing Battle Fantasia was mostly a 3D fighting game and most characters from BBTAG were Sprite 2D which they would’ve take a long time to convert some of the 3D sprite characters to 2D Sprite

    • @AfroRyan
      @AfroRyan Před 4 měsíci

      @deciduous_reaper9234 That's true but I'd still liked to have seen it.

    • @GuileWinQuote
      @GuileWinQuote  Před 4 měsíci +34

      Would be amazing to see any kind of acknowledgement from ArcSys!

    • @sorrydudebros
      @sorrydudebros Před 4 měsíci +6

      A Guilty Gear character would've been cool too? Honestly BBTag is a bore unless you're obsessed with Persona and RWBY, it wasted the chance for an Arc Sys crossover fighting game.

    • @ironpunch22
      @ironpunch22 Před 4 měsíci +9

      ​@@deciduous_reaper you say that but they added the rwby cast which were not even videogame characters.

  • @GeeVee1978
    @GeeVee1978 Před 4 měsíci +58

    I absolutely love this game's visual aesthetic. It gives off the exact vibes of a classic PS2 era JRPG that would've become a beloved cult classic that people would still be talking about fondly for years to come.
    Also Freed's design was totally inspired by John Silver from the classic Osamu Dezaki anime Takarajima/Treasure Island (1978)

  • @strippinheat
    @strippinheat Před 4 měsíci +92

    Coyori was voiced by Umeka Shoji, who also voiced the latest incarnation of Nekomusume in Gegege no Kitarou, making her a rare double catgirl voice actress. Come to think of it, Taokaka in Blazblue was voiced by Chiwa Saito, who also voices all the Tamamos in Fate, which are foxes so she doesn't count as a double catgirl...until you remember she was the voice of Xiaomei in Shining Hearts, who was also in Blade Arcus, another fighting game you should talk about. Therefore, I must conclude, I like fighting game catgirls.

    • @GuileWinQuote
      @GuileWinQuote  Před 4 měsíci +31

      The true cat girl scholar...🫡

    • @BeeLy1011
      @BeeLy1011 Před 4 měsíci +3

      Blade Arcus mentioned‼️

    • @captainmega6310
      @captainmega6310 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Blade Arcus? hmmm

    • @TekkenGirl4Lyfe
      @TekkenGirl4Lyfe Před 4 měsíci +6

      Fate mentioned! Ugh I want an Arcsys Fate fighting game so bad... (they've already put Saber, Ushiwakamaru, Mash and the freaking Count of Monte Cristo in the new Melty Blood so we're like. A thousandth of the way there lol) (and yes I know Unlimited Codes exists but A. it wasn't made by Arcsys and B. jank)

    • @BeeLy1011
      @BeeLy1011 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@TekkenGirl4Lyfe The jank is part of the beauty of FUC though
      Still I'd love a more polished game from either ArcSys or FB

  • @JRPGLOVER
    @JRPGLOVER Před 4 měsíci +107

    Lol, Arcsys said that they couldn't make Sin's flag wave untill Strive because of some limitations, yet here we se Olivia with waving flag in a game that released before Xrd.

    • @senritsujumpsuit6021
      @senritsujumpsuit6021 Před 4 měsíci +16

      flags are hard *whimpering an shivering*

    • @AztecCroc
      @AztecCroc Před 4 měsíci +50

      Considering this game isn't using the meticulously specific shading that GG uses that's probably the reason.

    • @donovanperrington418
      @donovanperrington418 Před 3 měsíci +11

      It’s like how KoF games used to have flowing hair and clothing, and now it’s all stuff.

  • @maximuscesar
    @maximuscesar Před 4 měsíci +134

    I was aware of Battle Fantasia's existence but until today I had never seen any gameplay of it. I actually didn't even knew it was 3D.

    • @GuileWinQuote
      @GuileWinQuote  Před 4 měsíci +23

      It is honestly insane that it beat SF4 and Tekken 6 to the market as the first big HD 3D fighter!!!

    • @sonic-bb
      @sonic-bb Před 3 měsíci +1

      Same. I didn’t even know it was a fighting game. Always thought it was an rpg lol

  • @Obscusion2
    @Obscusion2 Před 4 měsíci +31

    This game did something interesting with its boss fight (a super-powered DeathBringer) by essentially requiring you to enter Heat Mode in order to really do any damage to him, as you literally only do like 1 or 2 HP damage otherwise & he has super armor if you're not in Heat. It pretty much forces the player to actually engage with its mechanics & learn how each character's Heat Up works in order to defeat the boss, which is neat.

  • @Kono_Dio-Da
    @Kono_Dio-Da Před 4 měsíci +673

    One thing you forgot to mention when you (briefly) brought up Blazblue is that it was meant to be an easier version of Guilty Gear, because ArcSys assumed GG's high skill floor was killing its potential for newcomers. Seeing as Blazblue was infinitely more successful before GGST, they were probably right.

    • @DanLink9000
      @DanLink9000 Před 4 měsíci +245

      I would say BlazBlue's skill floor is almost as high as GG's, especially later installments. But the main thing BB had over GG was a good tutorial and better documentation. That what makes fighting games more accessible. Not taking away things characters can do.

    • @akiradkcn
      @akiradkcn Před 4 měsíci +17

      ​@@DanLink9000 facts

    • @Sorrelhas
      @Sorrelhas Před 4 měsíci +71

      ​​@@DanLink9000Yeah, nowdays BBCF is probably the premier anime fighting game
      Which is funny, because people called Blazblue players BlazBabies when Calamity Trigger dropped, and there's that dude telling the ArcSys representative that they're ruining the game by making it for casuals

    • @otaking3582
      @otaking3582 Před 4 měsíci +78

      ​@@DanLink9000BB did have an option for easy inputs, unlike GG, although I'd attribute BB's success to both having an in-depth story mode and being released during the fighting game renaissance of the late 2000's.

    • @Kono_Dio-Da
      @Kono_Dio-Da Před 4 měsíci +57

      @DanLink9000 The skill ceiling is arguably as high or higher than some of old Guilty Gear games, but the actual barrier for entry (skill floor) is lower because Blazblue has more intuitive system mechanics, especially in the later games, as well as better visual indicators, such as unique hitsparks for attacking someone when they are invuln, generally better/more readable animations (especially compared to GGXRD), comparatively lower damage without full resources, a hitbox system that uses hit properties instead of shifting the hitbox, so you don't have things like the anti-air beating mids, etc.

  • @GuileWinQuote
    @GuileWinQuote  Před 4 měsíci +201

    16:9 moment...

    • @SalveASMR
      @SalveASMR Před 4 měsíci +6

      I can't unsee it.

    • @STJrArmonte
      @STJrArmonte Před 4 měsíci +1

      Hehehehe

    • @maria_remedios
      @maria_remedios Před 4 měsíci +15

      are we entering the HD guile era

    • @GuileWinQuote
      @GuileWinQuote  Před 4 měsíci +28

      @@maria_remedios we'll be back to 4:3 in the next vid! 😅

    • @TheFabulousFubu
      @TheFabulousFubu Před 4 měsíci +13

      @@GuileWinQuote how am i supposed to watch this video on an arcade monitor without 4:3....

  • @lvl5Vaporeon
    @lvl5Vaporeon Před 4 měsíci +86

    They also made a Contra game. It kinda jank but it has the spirit for sure.

    • @AnnCatsanndra
      @AnnCatsanndra Před 4 měsíci +23

      And it's probably my absolute favorite Contra game.

    • @sladevalen2120
      @sladevalen2120 Před 4 měsíci +9

      I would do some heinous things to get that game rereleased in some way. It is my favorite Xbox 360 game period

    • @GuileWinQuote
      @GuileWinQuote  Před 4 měsíci +37

      The director of this game was the character designer for Contra Uprising!

    • @goldskarr
      @goldskarr Před 4 měsíci +5

      ​@@sladevalen2120at least it's backwards compatible on Xbox One.

    • @barrensoil
      @barrensoil Před 4 měsíci +12

      Kinda jank? Get checked. Hard Corps Uprising is excellent.

  • @eduardoserpa1682
    @eduardoserpa1682 Před 4 měsíci +11

    The Granblue comparison is really apt, and it scratches a few of the same itches (mainly early GBVS).

  • @qmanchu
    @qmanchu Před 4 měsíci +26

    I've considered covering this game on multiple occasions but I'm glad you beat me to it, great video!

    • @GuileWinQuote
      @GuileWinQuote  Před 4 měsíci +6

      Would still be interested in your take on it!

  • @neseipraxosia832
    @neseipraxosia832 Před 4 měsíci +30

    This was the game that made me love fighting games I had my parents drive me all over for the physical release and then I stayed up all night playing it. Seeing any love for it makes me ecstatic. Great vid as always guile!

  • @fakeigniz13
    @fakeigniz13 Před 4 měsíci +22

    You can see how influential this game was, SFV v triggers are basically the heat up system.
    I don't think we'll get a sequel but maybe they could guest in gbvs

    • @carlosaugusto9821
      @carlosaugusto9821 Před 4 měsíci +8

      Yes, and i was waiting for a comment suggesting the resemblance that is hard to miss in my opinion. Now after knowing this fact (i didnt know this game except the name) i think its fine to say that SF5's VT is roughly a mix of this old system and KOF 02's max mode - in the sense that it can be cancelled off, and the mode has a draining bar with peculiar "costs" depending on the actions taken (making it not a direct reference to Capcom's custom combos draining meters, but rather a direct reference to KOF 02's max mode meter).
      That creation has an importance that his description didnt emphasize but deserved it. Besides there are very little opportunities to give some spotlight to relevant contributions made by obscure games, as the regular fgc content creation scene tends to stay away from these ideas. (Not to mention the problem that the fgc has become so populated by influential 09'ers that the proper sense of "obscurity" is starting to become clouded. Like too many things are being called obscure today just because the community became more ignorant of istory and the market became actually more limited in options)
      Another example is how less and less people in the community are aware that the franchise that invented "clash" (two normals not ending in damage trade but cancelling) was World Heroes in the early 90s and not GG.

  • @alex_-yz9to
    @alex_-yz9to Před 4 měsíci +46

    Kinda funny you didn't mention the "story mode" which in all fairness is just the arcade ladder but every fight has a small visual novel to explain stuff... But as somebody who found the eu ps3 version CIB for 10 euros i kinda hoped you'd mention some of the more unironically funny moments that happen in it such as Marco's super sentai episode, Urs being terrible at ordering soda because he forgot he spent all his money earlier and Freed being attacked by a child because he liked petting Marco's dragon... oh and the random as hell Dragon quest joke when Dokurod finds Marco "saving his progress" in his evil church of Stock scary sound effects. I DID NOT MAKE ANY OF THESE EVENTS UP.

    • @Ramsey276one
      @Ramsey276one Před 4 měsíci +2

      Now I want it on Switch
      XD

    • @Wolfedge75
      @Wolfedge75 Před 4 měsíci +8

      Unfortunately, going for 100% is a pain since you have to win *and* lose every fight once to see every possible scene, which makes it quite the hassle and Blazblue: Calamity Trigger had the same problem.
      I know, since I _managed_ to reach 100% myself. Thankfully, for the extra skins you just have to go for 80% completion for every character.

    • @Ramsey276one
      @Ramsey276one Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@Wolfedge75 it will happen eventually...
      XD

    • @goldeklee
      @goldeklee Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@Wolfedge75 Oh boy, the win and lose 100%. Just like Calamity Trigger! Always fun...

    • @goranisacson2502
      @goranisacson2502 Před 4 měsíci

      I still remember Ashley and Donvalve's encounter, where they then proceed go do... things... that wasn't really clear due to ghe limitations of the VN-format, but I THOUGHT at the time they were pushing their bellies together? I do not know. But somehow, not knowing made it more glorious.

  • @OtakuUnderground92
    @OtakuUnderground92 Před 4 měsíci +18

    This looked so cool. Getting Power Stone and Soul Caliber vibes. Never heard of this thanks for covering it. This showed up in my recommendations.

  • @VilArknights
    @VilArknights Před 4 měsíci +9

    I REMEMBER THIS GAME.
    After searching around dustloop I saw this game and was like "oh I wonder what this is about" and went down the rabbit hole and almost bought it. It seems really cool but no rollback is a _really_ hard sell in this day and age. Good to know that there's still a dedicated community surrounding it tho.

  • @superbro6413
    @superbro6413 Před 4 měsíci +7

    Shoutouts to the story / singleplayer mode, having one of the most ridiculously difficult boss fights I ever had the displeasure of going through
    Honestly kind of soured me on the game, back when I played it on PC +6 years ago.
    I always did thought it played really well, and I'm glad you were able to highlight it for others to try out Guile!
    Cheers 🤙

  • @Eksem
    @Eksem Před 4 měsíci +4

    The only time I ever saw this was in a super dingy salaryman arcade in Shinbashi, crammed in between some strip mahjong games and an old SF cab, and I got so intrigued because I had never seen it or something like it before. We got a couple of sets in but not to get any system mechanics nor move lists really. Still, it really made an impression, fun to see a video about it.

  • @taishenkuso3977
    @taishenkuso3977 Před 4 měsíci +24

    Talked about this game with my friends last week, surprised how impactful this short lived game was. This was a delightful video for nostalgia’s sake. Thank you for putting this out. I’m hoping arcsys gives this franchise another chance.

    • @GuileWinQuote
      @GuileWinQuote  Před 4 měsíci +4

      Thank you for watching 🙇

    • @kwizzeh
      @kwizzeh Před 4 měsíci

      That's video games for ya. Sometimes it's a little innocuous title that was forgettable to the mainstream but end up influencing the catalyst for a new era because the right people at the right time discovered it.

  • @shrikelet
    @shrikelet Před 4 měsíci +6

    Props to everyone who paused at 0:59 to make sure they could name all the games. I couldn't.

  • @Hugelag
    @Hugelag Před 4 měsíci +3

    The game literally just went on sale, so I'm taking this as opportunity to try it out!

  • @dragonkingliz2329
    @dragonkingliz2329 Před 4 měsíci +16

    I played this back when it came out. I liked it quite a bit. I remember seeing it in bargain bins for only $10 not long after. I should have bought it.

  • @MetaKnuxXbeats
    @MetaKnuxXbeats Před 4 měsíci +6

    Glad to see a video about this made by you. This game I think needs more credit and attention. Also that moment when Watson is pretty much a mix between May, Faust, Testement, Platinum the Trinity, and Nine the Phantom

    • @GuileWinQuote
      @GuileWinQuote  Před 4 měsíci +1

      Platinum is a good comparison I didn't think of!

  • @ColtEagle77
    @ColtEagle77 Před 4 měsíci +5

    This game is awesome. As a filthy Donvalve main, I was honestly surprised when you said his grab range is so short. I guess it is but I don't really notice because his ability to get in is so strong.

    • @GuileWinQuote
      @GuileWinQuote  Před 4 měsíci +3

      Regardless of SPD range, dude is a very fun grappler

    • @Wolfedge75
      @Wolfedge75 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Don's fun, and not just in the sense of gameplay, too.
      Dude is just a big, lovable uncle. Look at his command throw, then compare it to Potemkin & Tager's.
      He's just so whimsical in personality it's not hard to smile at him (unless you're getting grabbed, that is).

  • @Ghostbody
    @Ghostbody Před 4 měsíci +15

    God, the goofy shit that was Battle Fantasia. I had fun with it and was one of the few I had for the XB360

  • @dragonlash
    @dragonlash Před 4 měsíci +12

    GUILEWINQUOTE BACK WITH FUCKING BATTLE FANTASIA!? WOOOOOHOOOO

  • @lordcrimson908
    @lordcrimson908 Před 4 měsíci +8

    Battle fantasia was great i picked it up when it came out and i enjoyed it a lot. Its great to see someone else talk about it sonce it seems that it is but a forgotten relic of fighting games

  • @Xurkey
    @Xurkey Před 4 měsíci +9

    We never forgot! This is a well done video! Thank you for bringing new attention to this gem. It's one of my personal favorite fighters. I have also felt the comparisons between Battle Fantasia and Granblue Fantasy Versus, I'm glad to not be the only one!

  • @Cassapphic
    @Cassapphic Před 4 měsíci +8

    This really feels like a predecessor that led to granblue vs, a lot of the same concepts for the gameplay when comapred to the average arcsys anime fighter, and also both are them are settings that are very tropey inspired by classic jrpgs.

    • @thisismybassgun
      @thisismybassgun Před 4 měsíci +6

      When GranBlue came out in 2020 (and having no clue about the Mobile game), I thought it had to be some weird Battle Fantasia remake/successor, for those reasons.

    • @D-vb
      @D-vb Před 4 měsíci

      Though it is made by Cygames.
      The only smartest thing I've ever seen them make it available for western fans for decades is Granblue's browser mode.
      Not through the playstore/ios app or them licensing an awful 3rd party group that is good at mishandling.
      I mean Dragalia Lost, World Flipper, and Pecorine Princess get to EoS but Grandblue stays.
      There's also their successful CCG Shadowverse who's there for so long together with Hearthstone, they just have to reboot to SV2 to grab newer players lol.

  • @arktype586
    @arktype586 Před 4 měsíci +8

    This looks amazing!!! Thanks for showing obscure gems

  • @shoebill4887
    @shoebill4887 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I thought this was a fever dream, I didn't even realize this game actually existed. I remember going to this one 'Arcade' after school that was just a room full of consoles with a couple of attendants that helped you set up the games if you needed it, and playing this specific game while drinking from that weird type of juice shaped like a barrel, Hug I think it was. I played Paper Mario there, too.

  • @jpnakashima1224
    @jpnakashima1224 Před 4 měsíci +2

    This game is so much fun. A true gem I played a lot to know the characters and story when I was getting into fighting games. Endlessly charming

  • @strippinheat
    @strippinheat Před 4 měsíci +35

    In another timeline, we'd have two Battle Fantasia visual novel spin-offs, a mobile RPG tie in, and a tag game with BF and Falcom characters.

    • @carlosaugusto9821
      @carlosaugusto9821 Před 4 měsíci +2

      That seems like something that could have ended like an expansive franchise reaching different genres.

    • @carlosaugusto9821
      @carlosaugusto9821 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Maybe it is right to call that a concept ahead of its time. It's like the fg scene of the late 00s was not prepared to receive a brand new game that looks like its a fg adaptation of a jrpg. The overall fg culture was (naturally) shaped in a way to easily accept the classic games and whatever else looked like the classic games. Then it took a while for the scene to become more flexible and receptive to very different concepts. Maybe having moving on from the arcade roots was a factor too.
      That reminds me of another product of cultural change in the genre, that is the fact that early fgs focused on basic character designs and basic character types. Even weird ones like Blanka still was basic in a way. And the males were buff and had a strong "fighter aura", just like the females were athletic and had the same fighter aura (Chun Li, Cammy, Sonya, Kitana, Mileena, King, Mai, Sarah, Nina...). But since the mid 90s we slowly started to see subversions from those stereotypes. We started seeing more males and females who lack a fighter aura and look like regular people, and skinny guys, and actual young boys and girls, and elders who dont look like strong fighters. That direction was pushed notably by SNK and Arc Systems in the 90s, and only became stronger since then.

    • @CptJistuce
      @CptJistuce Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@carlosaugusto9821I believe you miss the point of the game. It wasn't made for the fighting game community. It was an on-ramp meant to bring fresh blood in from outside the community.
      I suspect the art style of being a part of that. Fantasy RPG is a large market with little fighter overlap, and the game would catch that community's eye and hopefully draw players in.
      It didn't successfully do any of that, but the attempt was noble.

  •  Před 4 měsíci

    Keep making these! It really helps me as a future dev!

  • @SuperArt7
    @SuperArt7 Před 4 měsíci +4

    I had this game on Xbox 360 and Arcade Infinity (RIP) in SoCal had a cabinet.
    First played it at a friends house on PS3 when it was only an import

  • @cosmiccopy112
    @cosmiccopy112 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Literally was playing this game with my friends
    This game is such a gem
    I hope it gets a rerelease one day and another chance I would love more fighters like this it’s so beautiful

  • @Gamersgoinblind
    @Gamersgoinblind Před 4 měsíci +2

    One of my absolute favorite fighting games and I'm so glad for this video.

  • @no64256
    @no64256 Před 4 měsíci +3

    God the character art looks amazing! Kinda wish they used those for the portraits over the clean stuff
    Also, I wonder if this game was gonna get a PSP port, as the graphics and general design (even the distance of the camera) really reminds me of that system

  • @carlosaugusto9821
    @carlosaugusto9821 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Maybe it is right to call that a concept ahead of its time. It feels like, besides the natural struggles of the 2d fg genre, the scene in the late 00s was not prepared to receive a brand new game that looks like its a fg adaptation of a jrpg. The overall fg culture was (naturally) shaped in a way to easily accept the classic games and whatever else looked like the classic games. Then it took a while for the scene to become more flexible and receptive to different concepts. Maybe having moving on from the arcade roots was a factor too, including SF4 having brought many newcomers without old school fgc biases.
    That reminds me of another product of cultural change in the genre that had a strong impact, that is that early fgs focused on basic character designs and basic character types. Even weird ones like Blanka still was basic in a way. And the males were buff and had a strong "fighter aura", just like the females were athletic and had the same fighter aura (Chun Li, Cammy, Sonya, Kitana, Mileena, King, Mai, Sarah, Nina, Anna...). But after the mid 90s we slowly started seeing subversions from those stereotypes. There were more males and females lacking the classic fighter aura and who look like regular people, and skinny guys, and actual young boys and girls, and elders who dont look like strong fighters. That direction was pushed notably by SNK and Arc Systems in the 90s, and only became stronger since then.

  • @BDMang02
    @BDMang02 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Incredibly underrated fighter that deserves more love since there isnt anything quite like it Fantasia had a Vanillaware feel which gives it bonus points of being cool

  • @bananabike279
    @bananabike279 Před 4 měsíci

    Great video! Even though I've only seen this game a couple of times, I have a somewhat weird nostalgia for it.
    Really hope Battle Phantasia will reach a wider audience someday

  • @melvinshine9841
    @melvinshine9841 Před 4 měsíci +2

    I actually had this game. I didn't have anyone to play it with and had no idea how to play since I was total trash at fighting games most of my life, but I liked the art style. If I remember correctly, Urs and Marco are brothers.

  • @Solaris_Stardust
    @Solaris_Stardust Před 4 měsíci +2

    You are a legend for shining a light on my favorite fighting game of all time.

  • @Mukyoukai
    @Mukyoukai Před 4 měsíci

    I'm grateful for this upload literally because it just reminded me I have this game on Steam 🙏

  • @GuestZer0
    @GuestZer0 Před 4 měsíci +34

    7:50 Ohmigosh, that is so cute! 🥰
    9:10 Torbjörn & Obelix combined into one character. 😮

  • @yama_yama_yama
    @yama_yama_yama Před 4 měsíci +1

    I remember having fun with this game on the Xbox 360. Thanks for the video!

  • @thisismybassgun
    @thisismybassgun Před 4 měsíci

    I wish that when i bought this back in 2009, i had the appreciation for fighting games that I have now. Definitely slept on this one, appreciate the look back on it!

  • @aigokeros_pert
    @aigokeros_pert Před 4 měsíci +3

    Played this game yesterday with my friend. Ngl this was fun, kinda sad that there is no sequel

  • @chameleonhrt
    @chameleonhrt Před 4 měsíci +1

    I loved this game when I played it on the PS3. The art style was so beautiful. It was the first Playstation Plus game I downloaded when I bought my system. It has a special place in my heart.

  • @JayOfSpade
    @JayOfSpade Před 4 měsíci +1

    I remember seeing this at a used game shop 10 years ago, had never heard of it before but I picked it up. This game really charmed the pants off me, probably my favorite fighter on the X360

  • @GenericSoda
    @GenericSoda Před 4 měsíci +2

    Battle Fantasia is sick, in particular Donvalve is one of my favorite grapplers in any game. Every day I hope for #BattleFantasiaRollback

  • @BlackKanye
    @BlackKanye Před 4 měsíci +1

    This game's artstyle always looked neat to me. As soon as I saw the revised version on steam I added it to my wishlist

  • @bulb9970
    @bulb9970 Před 4 měsíci

    I once saw this weird game on my local arcade, played one match with my friend and forgot what it was called. I just couldn’t find the name anywhere online. Thanks for bringing this up.

  • @Jackrost01
    @Jackrost01 Před 4 měsíci

    Good work! Please, continue cover unique fighting games. Waiting for Destrega and Gleam of Force(1 and 2)

  • @CultoftheChromaticRibbon
    @CultoftheChromaticRibbon Před 4 měsíci +1

    One of my favorite fighting games ever made as soon as PSN hosted it for me - YEARS. Love it. WATSON!

  • @Coyoda
    @Coyoda Před 4 měsíci +1

    I remember getting this from Anime Expo. It was fully in japanese so I had no idea what was going on completely plot wise and the only thing that really helped me understand was the voice acting since I was used to hearing Japanese as opposed to hearing it. I remember playing it quite a bit and doing everyone's story modes, but I think it was around this time I was realizing I liked fighting games with wackier modes than the usual modes. But I really liked how the characters played and unique aspect they had.

  • @ZenieAzure
    @ZenieAzure Před 4 měsíci

    I know I had this on my Steam wishlist for a good while. It was one of those many games I got morbidly curious about but never committed to buying. Might have to change that not buying part. I love the style here!

  • @themediaphilechannel
    @themediaphilechannel Před 4 měsíci

    Wow, I can’t believe I missed this! I would have loved this back in 07’.

  • @TheDario64
    @TheDario64 Před 4 měsíci

    I remember seeing a cabinet for this game at the Round1 in Vancouver, Washington a few years ago. Not sure if it's still there, but it was fun to play!

  • @MauZangetsu
    @MauZangetsu Před 4 měsíci +1

    I've never heard of this game. Now I have something new to bring to the boys this weekend! Thanks Mr. WinQuote

  • @jesuisunstroopwafel
    @jesuisunstroopwafel Před 4 měsíci +4

    Just in time for a new GuileWinQuote video!
    I have heard of Battle Fantasia in the past... and only because there's a boss-only version of DeathBringer that's really strong.

  • @DigiMatt52
    @DigiMatt52 Před 4 měsíci

    Both the 2D art and the models are both excellent. I'd love to see a Tactics-style RPG with these characters and whatever else was left on the cutting room floor!

  • @sladevalen2120
    @sladevalen2120 Před 4 měsíci

    I remember getting this last year and really enjoying playing Odile.

  • @Hecatom
    @Hecatom Před 4 měsíci +1

    Ono has stated that SF4 wouldn't have happened without Battle Fantasy.
    There is a gematsu interview where he goes into detail about it.

  • @ThymeSplitter
    @ThymeSplitter Před 4 měsíci +1

    Would love to see the Battle Fantasia sales go up on Steam just because of this video :)

    • @GuileWinQuote
      @GuileWinQuote  Před 4 měsíci +2

      Anything to get ArcSys' attention!!!!!!

  • @munchratt
    @munchratt Před 4 měsíci

    i always love these cool lil spotlights on obsuce titles!!!!

  • @JoshuaPAMployee
    @JoshuaPAMployee Před 4 měsíci +2

    Catgirl! WE DESPERATELY NEED THIS GAME ON EVERY NEW CONSOLE IN THE WEST NOW!

  • @samfivedot
    @samfivedot Před 4 měsíci +1

    It also bears mentioning that Freed has a super named HEAT MY JUSTICE

  • @DarkCrusader27
    @DarkCrusader27 Před 4 měsíci

    I'd be happy to see you take a look at The Black Heart. It's one of my personal favorites.

  • @citykids
    @citykids Před 4 měsíci

    Great video! I adore this game and proudly own every console version and for PC! Yeah, it would be nice if the netcode was updated

  • @arcadeguyceej6805
    @arcadeguyceej6805 Před 4 měsíci

    Oh man, I had a lot of fun with this game back then. I should fire it up on the Taito X2. Thanks for the video.

  • @TheWordPlay
    @TheWordPlay Před 4 měsíci

    This is my first time seeing this game and it looks so cool!

  • @xGasTon87x
    @xGasTon87x Před 4 měsíci

    Didn't know about this one before, really hope Arcsys bring it back in some form because it looks amazing even with it's age already some new version of this characters would be hype

  • @MillywiggZ
    @MillywiggZ Před 4 měsíci +1

    This game’s look is great, reminds me of some Square games back in the day.

  • @mekman4
    @mekman4 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Great Stuff, as always.

  • @gamerbear84
    @gamerbear84 Před 4 měsíci

    I got my hands on it at an awkward time when I was swamped with choice for fighting games, so I never got around to giving it the attention it deserves. As a big fantasy buff and a fighting game fan, it definitely could have been a big hit with me.

  • @maciekmiktus
    @maciekmiktus Před 4 měsíci +2

    Leeeet's fkng go! New video from Guile

  • @PlayDHDGaming
    @PlayDHDGaming Před 2 měsíci

    I loved this on 360! Amazing game tbf!

  • @JetAsakura
    @JetAsakura Před 4 měsíci +1

    Watson main here. I'm so glad you talked about this game. I've never clicked on a video so fast.

    • @GuileWinQuote
      @GuileWinQuote  Před 4 měsíci

      He's an evil ass character but I can't help but to love him. The strongest player in Japan goes in 50+ win streaks with him!

  • @gonzalotorres5282
    @gonzalotorres5282 Před 4 měsíci +2

    If an ASW vs. Capcom crossover is made, BF chars must be in. Marco, Freed, Face and Death at least.

  • @Godspeace21
    @Godspeace21 Před 4 měsíci

    I used to work in a video game store in the Xbox 360 era and I kept looking at this on the shelf. Never did pull the trigger, I probably would have liked it though.

  • @sukmykrok3388
    @sukmykrok3388 Před 4 měsíci

    You're the first person who's brought attention to this game! It's a pretty good game that never got a fair chance!
    I got Blaz Blue at the time as well and didn't like it at all, so i played way more Battle Fantasia at the time!

  • @seanbean3070
    @seanbean3070 Před 4 měsíci

    I loved this game. Sadly I lived out of state from all my old fighting game friends, so I had no one to play with.

  • @coolmedina117
    @coolmedina117 Před 4 měsíci +1

    All I know about this game is that you can "why don't we play it instead" lobby message in xrd

  • @_Adie
    @_Adie Před 4 měsíci +1

    I freakin love Battle Fantasia, dude. I really wish it came back somehow. Whenever someone's interviewing Daisuke I really hope they're gonna ask him about it. Now, with how popular ArcSys is, it's a perfect opportunity. I guess it's *too* similar to GBVSR, but, you know, once the game runs it course, then maybe...
    And can we talk about Donvalve? ArcSys beat Blizzard by almost a decade with that design. AND they kinda, almost (not really) beat themselves with Olivia and Sin. You know, with both of them using flagpoles. Both this and GG2 came out in the same year, so...
    also i hate playing charge characters but freed is 100% my guy bro
    HEAT MY JUSTICE

  • @rainando3034
    @rainando3034 Před 4 měsíci

    what?! how didn't I know this and imagine this in a new modern remake/update 😍

  • @Jaythaking04
    @Jaythaking04 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Didn't know this channel was run by a fellow Texan. I'm never unsubbing now

  • @thesacredbeast2000
    @thesacredbeast2000 Před 4 měsíci

    Bsttle Fantasia is one of those games I bought, spent like 12 straight hours playing sets against a few friends then shelved forever while occasionally remembering it and planning on getting back into it, I'll have to see if it runs on my steam deck later

  • @sletman1290
    @sletman1290 Před 3 měsíci +1

    3:47 bruh, I dont think anyone would make that argument. with that said, good video. I appecicate this game getting some love.

    • @GuileWinQuote
      @GuileWinQuote  Před 3 měsíci +1

      If it's not clear, I'm saying it's aged arguably better than SF4 *visually*

    • @sletman1290
      @sletman1290 Před 3 měsíci

      @@GuileWinQuote I understand

  • @warbossgegguz679
    @warbossgegguz679 Před 3 měsíci +3

    0:28 I know I get flack for saying this, but it helps that Strive decided to be about as accessible as SF4 rather than stick to the style established in GG/BB. Same for the newest Melty Blood... I both of them I dropped before even getting anywhere because they were extremely boring to me as a result. Heck, KOFXV is closer to what those series used to be vs. what they are now.
    The relative "failure" of SFV seems to have made a ton of smaller devs try to fill the void to capitalize, whereas ironically SNK and NetherRealm instead went in the opposite way and tried to appeal to hardcore fans (at least when it comes to MKX and 11, haven't touched 1).
    It's a weird time in fighting games where it feels like anime-fighters are trying to appeal to the mainstream while traditional fighters like SF6 and KOF are trying to regain ground by appealing to hardcore niche fans... and in the case of the former I'm not really into it.

  • @lesbianmareep
    @lesbianmareep Před 4 měsíci

    Your channel is one of my favorites, and I don't even play fighting games! I did download this one however, to give it a try. Super fun! but WOW am I terrible at it.. getting beat by easy CPU lmao.

    • @GuileWinQuote
      @GuileWinQuote  Před 4 měsíci +1

      One of the goals of my channel is to be interesting to anyone regardless of how they feel about the genre, so this means a lot! Thanks for watching!!!!!!!!!! And trying the game!!

  • @aSkymne
    @aSkymne Před 4 měsíci +2

    never heard of this game but the art style looks identical to a free MMORPG would play in like 2009

  • @Gilbot9000
    @Gilbot9000 Před 3 měsíci

    I thought this game was a fever dream I had once I played it *one time* at a friend's place for like an hour and never saw or heard anything about it ever again.

  • @pipopawebghost8095
    @pipopawebghost8095 Před 4 měsíci

    Oh finally I was very curious about this game

  • @erkko8027
    @erkko8027 Před 4 měsíci

    Ooooh I have only seen fw clips of this game but never got to know what it was
    Now I get to know this, sweet

  • @micshork
    @micshork Před 4 měsíci

    This was a very underrated fighter. I wish it had gotten a follow-up.