No bombastic intro, no "clever" weird edits, just explaining, easy to understand while still going into much detail. One of the reasons I subscribed. Even though I know it, thanks!
I always like Michael for being kind and simple in his videos. "home" atmosphere with no inappropriate sarcastic jokes and all that gross stuff. Thank you man for doing this!
I tried to go to audio school to learn recording and this is by far the easiest way ever to describe mid side recording. Thank you for this. I hope you can teach more recording styles like this as well!
Thanks! I have to say I’ve had professionals try to explain this to me and if you don’t know the physics of it, it’s really easy to over complicate the technique!
In The Mix yeah I knew the basics but the way you explained it all clicked. It’s the visual cues that help. College sometimes doesn’t give all the visuals at first lol
Man I just love your channel. Even though I have a degree in audio engineering, I still come here and learn something new. I knew about Mid Side Recording but never tried it, because I love the width of a classic AB Stereo Recording on acoustic guitars. However, the mono capibility makes this very interesting. I never really thought about how this technique actually works, but you did a great job at explaining this! Definitely gonna try it! This could also be very interesting on electric guitar amps with maybe an sm57 as the mono signal and something like a C414 as the side signal.
Very nice job explaining how M-S keeps its mono-compatibility! I do have one small bone to pick, though. The Side mic indeed must be a Figure-8, (although some might try to fake it with a cardioid... ugh!) but the Mid mic can be a cardioid, an omni, or even another figure-8! It will make a difference in the overall stereo pickup pattern, but if you want more "room sound" in your recording, an omni or figure-8 could be a better choice than the cardioid. I enjoyed your video!
Dude,b watching you from my initial days, been producing from 3 years now. You've helped me alot to get where I'm today. Even though i already know what you taught in this video, just came here to appreciate the endless work you put in your videos. YOU'RE THE FUCKING BEST MY G.
bro id like to ask you a thing that is making me really confused, fom the moment that you've been producing from 3 years, then, in mixing, raising the high frequencies, I hear a very annoying Zzzzz underneath, I use fl studio and also in the part of the audio track where I don't sing or there's silence this z remains. that is, I don't understand what it is, I thought it was me who raised the frequencies too much but it is a noise that exists regardless, idk for example I have a take, i export it, the initial part before the singing in which there is nothing, not even my breath, that is, it is an extra empty piece that has put the daw at the begininng, if I see in the spectrum, there are these frequencies on the 13,000, which are initially low and it seems there are not, obviously then, I will have to raise them involuntarily to clear the voice, and as soon as this enters the beat i hear it a lot because of this z in the background, I don't know what to do
What people don't seem to realise is that mid-side is essentially *not* supposed to be some super wide mind exploding technique, but a true, natural way of capturing the stereo image, where the sound sources can be clearly localized. And you won't be able to do that if you overdo the sides! The other one of the side signals is supposed to cancel out with the mid signal when a sound source is on the other side, while the other side will add up to the mid. This will make the sound come (mostly) from the other speaker, as it should, since that's where the sound source was! If your mid and side signals are not in balance with each other (the sides being too loud for example), the cancellation that enables the localizing won't happen properly. That being said, you can of course do whatever you want with your material if it gives you the result you're after. I just think it's good to be aware of what you're actually doing.
I love using this technique to get a wider feel! Sometimes I'll also pitch one recording up a few cents and the other down a few (less than 10 cents difference total) and a very slight delay from one recording to the other to really make it feel huge. Great video as always!
Aaahh! as last I understand the Mid-Side thing - you create a beautiful stereo mix, so that you can successfully throw it away for the 99% on the population who listen in mono! excellent! t.b.h. I had assumed that mid-side was just a posh version of stereo, but now I understand. Many thanks, illuminating and calmly delivered as ever. The only trouble with your videos is that every time I watch one, I've got to go back over every one of my recordings AGAIN!
Haha! Yes we do tweak things to perfection for no reason! However, I think the vast majority of listeners these days are using stereo, headphones, earbuds, home speaker systems. I might be wrong though, I dont have any statistics or anything.
Wow! I tried to read a chapter on mid/side and was pretty frustrated. You explained it very well and also made the polarity issues going into mono really understandable. Thank you!
Something I would absolutely LOVE to see on your channel, is multi-mic recording, and playing it through different tracks as you did in the video. I have no clue how to do this. It's something I would like to learn how to do, but can't find how to do anywhere.
Love this vid. Will be watching more! I love the "by example" method you use and the concise use of words. Thanks for getting my brain wrapped around mid side audio!
MAN, you just saved my life, I've been using the haas technique to widen tracks even if i knew it was mono incompatible. With this lesson its wider, cleaner and mono compatible. A thousand thanks!
Idea for a follow-up video: Difference between M/S and variations of XY (with different angles), which also can be processed like a "true" MS recording. Discussing differences and potential advantages of both strategies, also including the information how to find an angle for XY which fits to a specific recording situation (both for far-field or closer like here in the example).
I have loved this style of recording acoustic since I "invented" it :) ( Came across it ) . However I shy away from the polarity reversal and offset one of the side by about .03 ms. This works for me, not everyone's way though. This was a great video. Thank you
Looking forward to that phase and polarity video! Also, I love how you experiment stuff and post them freely here on public. Thats really something which alot of people can be inspired from, I know I am. Really looking forward to all your amazing videos!
In The Mix should be = MAGIC! SECRETS REVEALED! :D Thanks Mike, as always - at last I have digested the technicalities here, unlike the first time I watched this
You made me fall in love with Fl studio, now you are making me go crazy for your channel… Always making us look more and more Genius with your informations… thank you so much
I just love your channel. Huge fan of your tutorials and I have leared a lot. I have witnessed a lot of improvement in my skills. Thank you soo much. Love and support from INDIA 🇮🇳😊
Thank you for the clear explanation. I recently learned the technique at the audio visual academy (audio engineering), and applied it fully thanks to your tip. I add that I use an extra room microphone. It just adds a little more :-)
This is so incridibles mike. Can you please make tutorial for cajon ? That would be complete the acoustic tutorial series imho. Btw thanks for making this one. Super easy to understand. Hope you always being healty and happy. Cheers.
This was a very good lesson for me. Well done. Thank you. I''m interested in this technique but I have to get a figure 8 mic to try it. I have two cardioid condensers.
Fair enough for mono compatibility, but it also means when you go mono, you only get the sound of the guitar where your mid channel mic was pointing. If you only pointed at the 12th fret of your guitar, this is therefore all you'll get in mono, and maybe you'd be missing some of the bottom part of the body as well ! So great mono compatibility indeed, but there is a tradeoff with spaced pair. Great video though, thanks a lot !
I was JUST looking into stereo miking, got a 2nd SM57 last night! Have somed matched pencil-capacitors too.. all I'll need going forward is a Figure8 and I'll be all set
I'm a beginner in producing. So i would want to you to make a video of how you record and record the backups because most of us don't know how to actually mix backups well. So please just a full tutorial about the whole process of mixing that is all i need
The phase reversal is clever, but there is some phase cancellation occurring with between the phase-reversed right channel and the cmid mic recording, resulting in an image that seems to be more on the left channel. ...to maintain a center image maybe consider panning the mid channel slightly....just a thought...
My side mic doesn't sound balanced if I sit directly perpendicular to the mic. I figure that this is due to the body of the gtr making more sound than the neck, so the capsule picking up the body is louder and therefore off balance. The way I've been able to remedy this is to turn my chair slightly so that I'm more at an angle so that the projected sound makes its way into both capsules a bit easier. I didn't understand how you got the balanced sound by being at a 90 degree angle, so I went back and looked again and it does seem like you're at a slight angle (although it could be the camera angle). Your results are awesome though. Helpful tip: Instead of doing 3 mono files, record a single stereo file with the side mic on the L input and the mid mic on the R input or vice versa. Then use the free Goodhertz Midside Matrix plugin (or their more in-depth paid version simply called Midside) which will do all of this for you under the hood. There are toggle options in the plugin to flip the M/S if your M and S are backwards in the stereo file. You'll also have separate faders inside the plugin to control the center and side channels.
such a great and simple video! Thank you! What do you use to record yourself and the screencaputre at the same time? OBS? Wich webcam are you using? Would love to know what setup it is. Thank you!
I wonder how you deal with the loudness problem. If you mix in stereo and playback in mono device (cellphone for example), the tracks will sound much weaker. And at this time no one likes low loudness songs. And these tracks sound perfect in headphones, but if playing in a live house or music festival, how to deal with the phase issue caused by speaker position? Despite doubts, I like this video! Thank you for sharing this technique bro!👍
If done properly, the other one of the side signals should cancel out with the mid signal in stereo when the sound source is on the other side, while the other side adds up to the mid. Being a figure 8 mic, the side mic has a null where the mid mic is pointed at, so if the sound source is at the center, the side mic will reject the direct sound, while the mid mic will capture it. This makes the result closer to mono to begin with, since there's not much information on the sides. Therefore the level should not significantly decrease when mixed in mono.
Hi Mike! Love your videos I have a question: are there any drawbacks if one records with only one microphone the same performance twice and then pan them left and right?
Nope! That's a pretty common technique. Just be aware that your playing has to be really tight and accurate to sell it. Another option is to record two separate parts. You might be able to get away with a bit more looseness in the playing, and it will likely sound even more full when panned.
No bombastic intro, no "clever" weird edits, just explaining, easy to understand while still going into much detail. One of the reasons I subscribed.
Even though I know it, thanks!
Thanks for the kind words :)
Totally agree! :-)
So do I.
You were predestined to be different(Romans 8:29), he who has an ear to hear, let him hear(Mark 4:9).
HALLELUYAH!(PRAISE YE YAH!)
I totally agree. No fluff, just great content!
I always like Michael for being kind and simple in his videos. "home" atmosphere with no inappropriate sarcastic jokes and all that gross stuff. Thank you man for doing this!
I've been searching for a good video about this, and now finally got one. You're amazing
You’re amazing bro : ) Can’t wait for the next video about phase & polarity ♥️
You were predestined to be different(Romans 8:29), he who has an ear to hear, let him hear(Mark 4:9).
HALLELUYAH!(PRAISE YE YAH!)
I tried to go to audio school to learn recording and this is by far the easiest way ever to describe mid side recording. Thank you for this. I hope you can teach more recording styles like this as well!
Thanks! I have to say I’ve had professionals try to explain this to me and if you don’t know the physics of it, it’s really easy to over complicate the technique!
In The Mix yeah I knew the basics but the way you explained it all clicked. It’s the visual cues that help. College sometimes doesn’t give all the visuals at first lol
Hi, I'm writing from Dominican Republic. This is my second year in music mixing and I have to say that your videos have served me a lot. Good job.
Man I just love your channel. Even though I have a degree in audio engineering, I still come here and learn something new. I knew about Mid Side Recording but never tried it, because I love the width of a classic AB Stereo Recording on acoustic guitars. However, the mono capibility makes this very interesting. I never really thought about how this technique actually works, but you did a great job at explaining this! Definitely gonna try it! This could also be very interesting on electric guitar amps with maybe an sm57 as the mono signal and something like a C414 as the side signal.
So cool . Can you make a VIDEO about mixing a whole song from start to finish . Thank you for your lessons Michael ❣❣
This dude makes a mid side tutorial like if he knew I needed it then makes says he's going to make a phase and polarity one😭🔥🔥
Very nice job explaining how M-S keeps its mono-compatibility! I do have one small bone to pick, though. The Side mic indeed must be a Figure-8, (although some might try to fake it with a cardioid... ugh!) but the Mid mic can be a cardioid, an omni, or even another figure-8! It will make a difference in the overall stereo pickup pattern, but if you want more "room sound" in your recording, an omni or figure-8 could be a better choice than the cardioid. I enjoyed your video!
Dude,b watching you from my initial days, been producing from 3 years now. You've helped me alot to get where I'm today. Even though i already know what you taught in this video, just came here to appreciate the endless work you put in your videos. YOU'RE THE FUCKING BEST MY G.
bro id like to ask you a thing that is making me really confused, fom the moment that you've been producing from 3 years, then, in mixing, raising the high frequencies, I hear a very annoying Zzzzz underneath, I use fl studio and also in the part of the audio track where I don't sing or there's silence this z remains. that is, I don't understand what it is, I thought it was me who raised the frequencies too much but it is a noise that exists regardless, idk for example I have a take, i export it, the initial part before the singing in which there is nothing, not even my breath, that is, it is an extra empty piece that has put the daw at the begininng, if I see in the spectrum, there are these frequencies on the 13,000, which are initially low and it seems there are not, obviously then, I will have to raise them involuntarily to clear the voice, and as soon as this enters the beat i hear it a lot because of this z in the background, I don't know what to do
What people don't seem to realise is that mid-side is essentially *not* supposed to be some super wide mind exploding technique, but a true, natural way of capturing the stereo image, where the sound sources can be clearly localized. And you won't be able to do that if you overdo the sides!
The other one of the side signals is supposed to cancel out with the mid signal when a sound source is on the other side, while the other side will add up to the mid. This will make the sound come (mostly) from the other speaker, as it should, since that's where the sound source was! If your mid and side signals are not in balance with each other (the sides being too loud for example), the cancellation that enables the localizing won't happen properly.
That being said, you can of course do whatever you want with your material if it gives you the result you're after. I just think it's good to be aware of what you're actually doing.
Your intro has improved a lot....damn catchy🔥🔥and the videos are so useful....as usual
I love using this technique to get a wider feel!
Sometimes I'll also pitch one recording up a few cents and the other down a few (less than 10 cents difference total) and a very slight delay from one recording to the other to really make it feel huge. Great video as always!
Aaahh! as last I understand the Mid-Side thing - you create a beautiful stereo mix, so that you can successfully throw it away for the 99% on the population who listen in mono! excellent!
t.b.h. I had assumed that mid-side was just a posh version of stereo, but now I understand. Many thanks, illuminating and calmly delivered as ever.
The only trouble with your videos is that every time I watch one, I've got to go back over every one of my recordings AGAIN!
Haha! Yes we do tweak things to perfection for no reason! However, I think the vast majority of listeners these days are using stereo, headphones, earbuds, home speaker systems. I might be wrong though, I dont have any statistics or anything.
@@inthemix Indeed , fair point.
Wow! I tried to read a chapter on mid/side and was pretty frustrated. You explained it very well and also made the polarity issues going into mono really understandable. Thank you!
this is what a beginner musician/composer looking for ! THUMB UP !
I have browsed many many videos and finally someone explaining it super crystal clear, thanks a lot!
Great. Super informative. Thanks also for getting to the point quickly and not throwing in unnecessary info. Brilliant.
Cheers Don, I try to keep it brief so as not to waste anyone’s time!
Your video made this explanation clear as day to me. Bravo 👏🏿. Respect ✊🏿 ✊🏿✊🏿
Thanks for the explanation. Super clear.Super easy to understand.
Something I would absolutely LOVE to see on your channel, is multi-mic recording, and playing it through different tracks as you did in the video. I have no clue how to do this. It's something I would like to learn how to do, but can't find how to do anywhere.
Such a well done "tutorial".Perfectly demonstrated and explained.
Super helpful - concise and clearly explained, no fluff. Thanks for this!
this is an amazing lesson. now I will never have mono compatibility issues.
Amazing! It took so much effort for me to learn about this topic on my own and here it is compounded together and simple. Thank you!
Love this vid. Will be watching more! I love the "by example" method you use and the concise use of words. Thanks for getting my brain wrapped around mid side audio!
MAN, you just saved my life, I've been using the haas technique to widen tracks even if i knew it was mono incompatible. With this lesson its wider, cleaner and mono compatible. A thousand thanks!
As always, brief, to the point, clearly and eloquently presented. Thank you Michael.
Idea for a follow-up video: Difference between M/S and variations of XY (with different angles), which also can be processed like a "true" MS recording. Discussing differences and potential advantages of both strategies, also including the information how to find an angle for XY which fits to a specific recording situation (both for far-field or closer like here in the example).
I have loved this style of recording acoustic since I "invented" it :) ( Came across it ) . However I shy away from the polarity reversal and offset one of the side by about .03 ms.
This works for me, not everyone's way though. This was a great video. Thank you
In-depth and detailed explanation, thanks for this tutorial mate!
Very cool tip. Made a huge difference. Thank you
Thank you so much for this tutorial
Finally a good explanation of how to execute this idea.
Best, most informative channel. Michael is the best.
Great technique to learn. Thanks for sharing.
Great tutorial, awesome content as always! You're literally the only channel I have the bell on for, and it's worth it
Looking forward to that phase and polarity video! Also, I love how you experiment stuff and post them freely here on public. Thats really something which alot of people can be inspired from, I know I am.
Really looking forward to all your amazing videos!
In The Mix should be = MAGIC! SECRETS REVEALED! :D
Thanks Mike, as always - at last I have digested the technicalities here, unlike the first time I watched this
Glad it finally made sense, anything making it more confusing the first time?
You made me fall in love with Fl studio, now you are making me go crazy for your channel… Always making us look more and more Genius with your informations… thank you so much
Great explanation. Thank you for taking the time to show how you mix it.
thank you for the information
👍
Hey man, awesome video. Very easily explained. Never realized about the mono compatibility. Great tip there.
Thank you! Great to hear the comparison of reversed vs. non-reversed polarity.
Very easy to understand but also well explained. Thanks for being so kind to me!
I just love your channel. Huge fan of your tutorials and I have leared a lot. I have witnessed a lot of improvement in my skills. Thank you soo much. Love and support from INDIA 🇮🇳😊
Thank you! Can’t wait to try this method!
Splendid explanation!
great recording tips mate, I've improved my music production skills a lot by watching your tutorial. thanks for doing this.
Your every videos topic are so good!🔥
Very nice video.. useful information.. wating for the video on phases...
Loved the intro. Great tutorial
Great teaching! Subscribed in a minute!
You should receive a Nobel-Prize for this channel. Thanks a lot Man! 🙏🔥
Thank you for the clear explanation. I recently learned the technique at the audio visual academy (audio engineering), and applied it fully thanks to your tip. I add that I use an extra room microphone. It just adds a little more :-)
This is so incridibles mike.
Can you please make tutorial for cajon ?
That would be complete the acoustic tutorial series imho.
Btw thanks for making this one. Super easy to understand. Hope you always being healty and happy.
Cheers.
I don't have pc or even fl studio. But i like your explanation for my knowledge about recording and making music. 😁
Thank you! Excellent video
This was a very good lesson for me. Well done. Thank you. I''m interested in this technique but I have to get a figure 8 mic to try it. I have two cardioid condensers.
Just wanted to say thanks. Fantastic stuff.
You are a great teacher.
Fair enough for mono compatibility, but it also means when you go mono, you only get the sound of the guitar where your mid channel mic was pointing. If you only pointed at the 12th fret of your guitar, this is therefore all you'll get in mono, and maybe you'd be missing some of the bottom part of the body as well ! So great mono compatibility indeed, but there is a tradeoff with spaced pair.
Great video though, thanks a lot !
A spaced pair is still my favourite method for acoustic guitar. It really is difficult to beat that sound!
Thanks sir
the best audio production lessons ever..thanks for everything bro cheers from NEPAL
Very informative as always. This left me completely mindblown 🤯
Really good explanation!
I was JUST looking into stereo miking, got a 2nd SM57 last night! Have somed matched pencil-capacitors too.. all I'll need going forward is a Figure8 and I'll be all set
wow that awesome ...had only studied it in physics never had seen a practical example...this one was awesome
I'm a beginner in producing. So i would want to you to make a video of how you record and record the backups because most of us don't know how to actually mix backups well. So please just a full tutorial about the whole process of mixing that is all i need
Dude this video is incredible thankyou
The phase reversal is clever, but there is some phase cancellation occurring with between the phase-reversed right channel and the cmid mic recording, resulting in an image that seems to be more on the left channel. ...to maintain a center image maybe consider panning the mid channel slightly....just a thought...
This man is amazing😍😍😍😍thankyou so much
🙏 please make a detaled tutorial about struming guitar on FL Studeo and also about adding hannerons and pull offs
I think its finally clicked! Thank you Michael!!
so I take it double mid side is just the same processing ?
Great explanation, I really want to watch the "phasing problems" video
Very good explanation - focused and comprehensible! Thanks for the video. :)
Great video. Thanks. Subscribed.
We learned something new
Thanks MIX
Awesome tutorial
Fastest ive been explained something and understood it
Great tutorial thanks a lot 👏👏👏
God bless you man , if youre in Galway , were going for PINTS
this was beautiful thank you!
I am impressed really really i am super happy thank you
fantastic content! thank you
My side mic doesn't sound balanced if I sit directly perpendicular to the mic. I figure that this is due to the body of the gtr making more sound than the neck, so the capsule picking up the body is louder and therefore off balance. The way I've been able to remedy this is to turn my chair slightly so that I'm more at an angle so that the projected sound makes its way into both capsules a bit easier. I didn't understand how you got the balanced sound by being at a 90 degree angle, so I went back and looked again and it does seem like you're at a slight angle (although it could be the camera angle). Your results are awesome though.
Helpful tip: Instead of doing 3 mono files, record a single stereo file with the side mic on the L input and the mid mic on the R input or vice versa. Then use the free Goodhertz Midside Matrix plugin (or their more in-depth paid version simply called Midside) which will do all of this for you under the hood. There are toggle options in the plugin to flip the M/S if your M and S are backwards in the stereo file. You'll also have separate faders inside the plugin to control the center and side channels.
I've applied this technique in many recordings. Great tip! Quick question: What mics are you using for recording the guitar? Cheers
Great content brother 👏
Hi there.. i hope you can make Series Tutorial explaining all FL Studio stock plugins in practical usage of those...
Really well done. Thank you kindly!
Excellent.
This is impressive, love your videos!
such a great and simple video! Thank you!
What do you use to record yourself and the screencaputre at the same time? OBS?
Wich webcam are you using? Would love to know what setup it is.
Thank you!
I wonder how you deal with the loudness problem.
If you mix in stereo and playback in mono device (cellphone for example), the tracks will sound much weaker. And at this time no one likes low loudness songs.
And these tracks sound perfect in headphones, but if playing in a live house or music festival, how to deal with the phase issue caused by speaker position?
Despite doubts, I like this video! Thank you for sharing this technique bro!👍
If the sides cancel out in mono, there will be level difference. When is this wanted?
If done properly, the other one of the side signals should cancel out with the mid signal in stereo when the sound source is on the other side, while the other side adds up to the mid. Being a figure 8 mic, the side mic has a null where the mid mic is pointed at, so if the sound source is at the center, the side mic will reject the direct sound, while the mid mic will capture it. This makes the result closer to mono to begin with, since there's not much information on the sides. Therefore the level should not significantly decrease when mixed in mono.
thanks for this
great tutorial thanks!
Thanks!
Hi Mike! Love your videos
I have a question: are there any drawbacks if one records with only one microphone the same performance twice and then pan them left and right?
Nope! That's a pretty common technique. Just be aware that your playing has to be really tight and accurate to sell it. Another option is to record two separate parts. You might be able to get away with a bit more looseness in the playing, and it will likely sound even more full when panned.
Can you put a video on placing Mid Side Stereo Recording techniques with just vlogging your vlocals