Will these motorcycle helmets keep you safe? We put them to the test (Marketplace)
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- čas přidán 24. 11. 2022
- They're the only thing protecting your head from the pavement in a crash, but are all motorcycle helmets built the same? Marketplace puts motorcycle helmets from third-party sellers on Amazon, eBay and Walmart to the test, and shows how easy it can be to fall for fake safety certifications.
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I would have liked to see them lab test an authentic DOT helmet, to see how it compared to the knock-offs.
More than a few will fail. DOT requires the mfg to send only one sample.
state controlled media wouldnt risk making the state look bad
All those high end buckets and all those fancy safety stickers just disguise the same "made in china" junk and those tests are all provided by the same governments who lie to you every day so why do you think they suddenly give a damn about you now?
A rare marketplace L. 1. DOT certification is the worst type of certification out there. A Beanie helmet DOT certified. How could they not have taken 5 mins of research and see the great work Ryan at Fortnine has done on this subject.
Exactly! Harley sells a DOT pudding bowl helmet full of breather holes.
The ONLY helmet I've ever owned for road riding is one of those "novelty" turtle-shell helmets with a "DOT" sticker in back and I've never had a problem...and I didn't spend $500.00!
@@alexandermacgowan9951 Done any crash testing?
As a former paramedic I can tell you that helmets will keep you fairly Safe but once you get over 50mph you chances of becoming a vegetable for life rises sharply.
thank you for all what you have done ^_^
@@LadyUsakoB THANK YOU!! ♥️🙏♥️ In 23+ years in EMS I THINK I have heard those 3 words maybe 6 times !
Unless you wear full gear.
@everyday tenor i don’t always wear full gear, although i believe it’s better to have it. i just don’t care
@@chanhnguyen81 true, you will be a vegetable since your head will never survive a 50 mph impact with or without a helmet :D , but your body is intact :D
I have salad bowls in my kitchen that will protect you more than a DOT-only helmet. If CBC would have done five minutes of research before filming this, they would have found that any motorcyclist with half a brain is looking for an ECE or SNELL rating.
You mean look for an ECE or DOT rating. Stay away from Snell, one of the most outdated standards in the world according to research and test results.
BTW, the article "Blowing the Lid Off" (Motorcyclist Magazine, May 2005) found that a peanut butter and cabbage sandwich provides better protection than most motorcycle helmets.
Isn't snell for car racing?
Yes but they are using the same standard, which is better then DOT but worst then ECE.
Snell is out dated, ECE is the best standard since it is from countries that uses their motorcycle for daily use, not just casual riding
I have a dollar bandana that has protected me as much or more than any of those "made in china" knockoffs you find with all those fancy stickers and labels sewn on the inside...
I've been a rider for over 50 years. Snell was THE standard with DOT being a distant second. No helmet should be polycarbonate (plastic) and you see why in the impact test. Helmets should NOT bounce, but begin to delaminate to absorb impact. You don't want your head to hit a post and bounce causing neck injury. A test we used to do "back in the day" is to drop them on the floor from 6 feet, similar to the impact test in the video. If they bounced they failed. If they hit the floor and stayed, they were typically fiberglass and did not bounce. DOT helmets would bounce, SNELL would not. The expanded foam (styrofoam) inner padding was the secondary absorption medium and would crush as it absorbed the head moving upon impact and also from the shell delaminating. One crash and throw it away. It did it's job. Good video but not in depth enough. Too bad about the fakes coming in from overseas now. Didn't have that problem not too long ago. My helments? Snell approved Arai. Got a $30 head, get a $30 helmet. There's a reason Arai runs $800 and up. Stay safe, dress for the slide, not the ride, and ATGATT. (All The Gear All The Time.)
Bell created the "If you have a $10 head" advertising, all the while making a polycarbonate helmet of the Star design selling under the Vetter brand. The strap had Bell on it. They KNOW a polycarbonate can be safe. Bieffe actually passed the Snell standards in the 80s with a painted polycarbonate helmet, the paint protected the helmet against the solvents testing. Bell now has their popular MX-9 Adventure helmet doing great and meeting ECE 22.05 standards (probably will meet 22.06 eventually) and is a polycarbonate helmet.
Back in 2005 Dexter Ford and Dr. David Thom proved out the polycarbonates were safe and actually would transmit less force to the brain in an impact than Snell and in some cases ECE. It's still true. The newest ECE standard didn't lower the forces to the brain in impact, they increased the speed of impact, now at the point where the speed would make survival nil. Especially in a street helmet.
Who the heck buys safety equipment from eBay, Amazon and Walmart.
broke kids just getting into motorcycles and have not done enough research.
No one except the silly people who made this video.
@calvincheng14 from amazon, a lot of people buy helmets...it is a multibilion american store...so you are telling me american brands and stores are bad? Noted.
Interesting opinion and questionable rationale. Noted.
Poor bastard like me😂
The fact that Amazon and Walmart have these online and take no responsibility is criminal. Have they contacted every person who already bought one of these helmets and told them to return them with a full refund? Anything less is unacceptable.
Don't buy your motorcycle safety gear online..
period.
Go to a local shop that sells the bikes and the gear. You can talk to them too and ask questions, try on the helmets, gloves, jackets etc. and find something that fits you well and is comfortable.
It's important for the gear to be safety compliant. It's also important that you can feel comfortable wearing it for hours on end while out riding.
And stuff hanging off of a helmet, yes it's dangerous but it's also going to get really noisy at higher speeds due to bad airflow.
Just my $0.02. Been riding since 1989. Keep the rubber side down Y'all.
Fortnine is a reputable company if you're looking to buy online.
Snell keeps an active list of helmets of they certify and in my opinion is the best place to start your investigation before buying a helmet . Not just motorcycle helmets. Do not rely on DOT certification as the standard , Snell standards are higher and also DOT approved for on road use. It has been said , if you have a $50 head , wear a $50 dollar helmet.
ECE (European Union) certification is very good.
I have atleast a $200 head 😂
My suggestion is to do an in depth study of all these so-called "tests" used today and find out exactly what you are putting on your head and then judge whether it's safer to not wear a helmet or to wear one and risk your health or life as a result...get in touch with some motorcycle rights organizations and find out what their research has found and consider all this before putting a bucket on your head...unless the government is DEMANDING you wear one if you want to buy the FREEDOM to ride from them at their price...
All the helmets I have purchased here in canada have a "SNELL" rating. curious as to why you didnt cover that? being CBC in canada....
Because it's all the same junk whether it's sold in Canada or the US...
What about the 1storm walmart helmets?
ECE, never DOT
I've been riding motorcycles since 1988, the ONLY helmet brand that protects my head? ARAI, without question!
or Shoei
I've been riding motorcycles (both dirt and road) since 1963 and the ONLY thing I wrap around my head is a bandana...not ONE head injury and lots of crashes caused by cagers...I do wear a helmet when I ride dirt just because I ride like a banshee bar hopping on Saturday night and love to ride off cliffs!
@@alexandermacgowan9951 There's always a first time. Helmets are MANDATORY in all provinces here in Canada.
keep it up, market place is so healthy for society
I love that we never come up with our own standards, just copy the US standard and call it a day. The DOT spec is old, it isn't meaningless when it's a reputable manufacture. There are new better ratings and standard systems, the government should do more in house tests that hold companies to account
Maybe the standard is set high and this is why Canada uses it.
@@BuntyandMichele DOT is not A high standard, its the lowest standard around, ECE and Snell are both harder to pass, Moto GP has a new standard that is legitimately difficult to pass
Even the helmet actually passed the self-certified DOT standard only, it's still a crap, go for ECE or at least SNELL.
I agree. This is what my own research found.
Actually, you don't have to spend a lot to get good protection. In the article "Blowing the Lid Off" (Motorcyclist Magazine, May 2005), the $79 Pep Boys Raider performed better than the $500 Arai Tracker. According to research and tests, the order is: DOT best, ECE a close second and, in every test scenario, Snell always last.
Just go look at Fortnine's video on this subject.
If you mean his video from 4 years ago, forget it. I posted a lengthy rebuttal with links to research and studies. He (as well as Yammie Noob and others) always gets the facts about DOT and Snell wrong. DOT is much better than Snell. Fortnine corrected his opinion on Snell last year, though (Snell is Meaningless).
@@bobdrummond6540 Hey Bob - I would like to see the rebuttal.
Unless he's telling you all this is pure BS, he's lying to you too...
In my humble recommendation, DOT is a trash certification and is only there to let you ride with it on US/Canada Roads. Get something with either ECE 22.05/22.06 or Snell on top if you want a foundation that has updated regulations and actually cares about riders and the sports surrounding motorcycles.
...says who?...the government...
Marketplace doing awesome work again. Love this!
Pure propaganda pablum for the masses...
Good work marketplace 👍🏻👍🏻
The consumer needs to know that price reflects quality. Not to say you need to spend 900$ for a helmet. A good quality safe snell helmet can be had for 150$ to 300$. Buy your helmet from a honest motorcycle shop or online shop with a good reputation, such as fortnine.
DO NOT..buy a used helmet, buy your helmet from ebay, or buy your helmet from Amazon. Stay safe, be a smart consumer, value your life.
You don't know that crap is any "safer" than what they claim as "DOT approved" or any of the other competing "approval designations" on the market today...it's all controlled by the government whose main agenda is not your "safety"...they want to control you!
In the 80s it was Snell or nothing. Even my Schuberth a $1100 helmet is not Snell and they wear out if modular type.
Same JUNK different label!
I wouldn't wear a helmet that wasn't Snell certified. DOT certification isn't enough, it'll only save you from minor impacts, Snell certification is much tougher.
Says who, the guys who conduct the "Snell" tests?...probably the same guys who do the "DOT' tests...smile...
The DOT does not certify helmets, helmet manufacturers SELF certify. The DOT just enforces it after the fact
That's like the government telling you it's for your own good...
Gear is only important if you wear it.
On a side note, I ride wearing a Shoei helmet.
Arai and Shoei are the best and expensive. HJC is very good but more reasonably priced. Bell is also pretty good but noisier and heavy.
A Shoei saved my life. I won’t wear anything else.
@@timlocke3159 Nope. If you look up test results, Arai and Shoei are nice, but not the best, by a long shot. There are several helmets which provide MUCH better protection.
We're testing helmets. Let's speak to some lawyers.
HNJ is a Philippine local brand and it is not a counterfeit what you got is an original HNJ helmet and it is an absolute shite of a quality. There is a running joke here in the Philippines that HNJ means Helmet Ni Jesus (Jesus' Helmet) because when you caught in an accident you will actually see Jesus in the afterlife.
Buy a helmet from a company that does more than just meets the standard.
Arai, Shoei, HJC, AGV. No store brands (looking at you, Bilt) or garbage brands. The more features they add, the worse they likely perform. Don't mess around.
Don't you know that all of these buckets are "made in china" and just have different labels and stickers attached to impress you?...and you buy into that BS...hahahahahahaha
@@alexandermacgowan9951 I don't care where the factory is, in particular. There is a huge difference between the under $200 helmets and the good stuff that can actually provide some protection. I don't "buy into that.". I have tested it.
Good job guys
Joseph Goebbels would have been proud! GREAT PROPAGANDA FILM!
Just my opinion but riding a motorcycle what will really keep you safe when you get in an accident?
get a 30$ helmet if you have a 30$ head..
anyone tried orz helmet?
Those helmets were really cheaply made. I'm not sure they'd even protect you when falling off a bicycle.
That's why it's written inside EVERY helmet sold today that you should discard the helmet and not wear it any longer if you drop it on the deck just once! GREAT MARKETING SCHEME!
MELISSA TARSITANO IS A LAWYER WORKING TO ELIMINATE COUNTERFIET GOODS.. so are these two guys
CBC, you talk about what makes for a bad helmet. Where is the info on that makes a good helmet and certification? Or has Marketplace become the boomer channel?
It's called "they'll believe anything we tell them as long as we market it well" BSing...
why didn't you guys test the "real" DOT helmets?
Thank you for the test, now China helmet upgraded their quality. We as consumer now can enjoy good quality helmet with low price. Please do more china's helmet crash test, keep up the good job. More china's helmet test = force them to upgrade their quality....
I would never want to buy a helmet that was JUST DOT rated. SNELL, ECE and FIM are the ratings you want to be looking at if you are searching for a safe helmet.
None of them are "safe" helmets, only claimed to be so by some government agency with an agenda who enjoys controlling the general population and telling them what is "safe" and what isn't...all you know is what they tell you...do you believe everything everybody tells you?
Arai or Shoei. Nothing else.
Yes. Those are the top two brands for safety.
My Shoei saved my life once.😊
My HJC is Snell and ECE rated. Costed me $150.00. Don't think that the high cost brands are the only ones that are safe. There really isn't much difference in safety. Fit and finish is what you're paying for.
@@cinnamonrollypoly Yes, my helmet is an HJC. They are not quite as good as Acai and Shoei but are close and are more reasonably priced.
@@timlocke3159 They're a little noisier and may not be as comfortable, but the myth that expensive helmets are safer is just that; a myth.
This wasn't done very well, I think you could have put in a lot better effort to find some helmets motorcycle riders would actually buy and test in a better way. DOT is just a very basic certification standard, there's more to it. Also anyone who has common sense would recognize buying a helmet from third party seller or ebay is going to be a knockoff. Most motorcycle riders would buy brand helmets or recognizable brands anyways.
SNELL certification is way better. Worth paying more for it.
Again, another post by someone who doesn't know the facts. Snell is one of the worst standards in the world according to research and test results. See my other comments on this page.
@@bobdrummond6540 Agree. FortNine did a vid on helmet ratings, Snell isn't what 99% of people think it IS.
From what university did you receive your engineering degree?
Just buy original brands like 👍 Nexx and Shoei MT helmets
these companies like amazon ebay dont give a sht, all about money
Stick to Arai or Shoei is my advice
Not if you want the best protection. My advice based on research, studies and test results, not personal opinion.
Move to a State without a "helmet law" is my advice...and feel the wind in your hair and the sun on your face and know what FREEDOM is all about...
If you have a $50 head, or think your head is worth $50; buy a $50 helmet
Bunch of helmet experts here lmao but I guarantee none of them speak from experience. only what they seen others say online.
this is sad
What is "sad" is the fact that most Americans today allow the government to take more and more of their FREEDOMS and RIGHTS away every day and tell them what they approve and what they do not...and you have to buy what they approve!
Pretty simple, if made in China don't buy it. Shoeing and Arai FTW
what a waste of a report. test legit helmets and id be interested
Sheesh... lose the pose experts
If u want to stay safe - NEVER RIDE ON A MOTORCYCLE. 30 yrs. driving cab I witnessed too many nasty accident’s involving bikes & motorcycles. Not just aggressive motorcycle’s , the worst problem is bad drivers who do not look where there going. ✌️
There is no such thing as completely safe. Yes, riding a motorcycle is more dangerous than driving a car, but driving a car is also inherently more dangerous than sitting at home and watching TV.
My point is that life is about accepting risk; what level you're willing to accept is the only difference between a motorcycle rider and a vehicle driver. Yes, I could get hurt some day, and of course I don't want that to happen, but the tradeoff for that level of risk is worth it to me.
true... but in the same breath, one could say "Don't drive a car, don't fly a plane, don't get out of bed." 😂
It's made in China
China helmets
the way this was made and filmed tho shocking and crap...cheap. cheaper than those helmets.