How to stand out as an electrician... EAL/City and Guilds 2396 - Explained
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- čas přidán 14. 03. 2023
- We run through the very low numbers enrolling on the Design, Erection and Verification (2396) course. With only around 30-35% passing the course.
We discuss possibly using this course more widely in industry in particular for Qualified Supervisors in CPS bodies.
We also talk about the difficult aspects found on the course, some of the things to be aware of, costs, time frames and loads more.
We even have a go at one of the questions!
Huge thanks to :-
Craig Buist, Jamie Blatant, Richard Harvey and Mark Allison for getting together and having a chat on this one.
Link to the course at city and guilds below
www.cityandguilds.com/qualifi...
Great to have the podcast crew back! Especially seeing Jamie return ❤
It’s really good to hear you talk positively about EAL . I am currently sitting the level 4 course . Took the exam and passed last year . It’s a very hard exam .
This is a great course. The exam is three hours of pure writing, you need to underpinning knowledge to answer the questions, not just the ability to find the info in 7671, you can’t bluff the answer. I’ve still got the portfolio to complete, but as Jamie said you need to force yourself to do it as work gets in the way. One big frustration is that as this is a hand written exam you get no feed back about “your” exam only the Chief examiners report feed back based on all the exams submitted. As a design course I would have expected feed back on your exam to understand where you went wrong, neither do you get a percentage mark so you have no idea how by the skin of your teeth you passed or how close to a merit or distinction you may have been. I’d love to know where I went wrong in my questions.
Not enough people are talking about this course, having just done it i couldn't recommend it enough. it really highlights why we do what we do. good listen guys 👍
Hey, Richard just received my Design & Verification of Electrical Installations by Brian Scaddan. Thanks!
Jamie, you made good inspirational points that spoke to me.
Thanks very much , that’s the aim
Good show guys.
I've been trying to get on the 2396 for a few years now. Not many places seem to do them and then you find them and I'm already booked in with work 🤦♂. I will eventually find one that will suit schedule. I did the part C course many moons ago at the latter end of my apprenticeship. I was too young, inexperienced and more interested in the pub and girls at the time. I think I would enjoy it more now having the experience behind me and wanting to learn more.
Great show guys! Nice hoody Jamie 😉
This is excellent gentlemen.
Interesting podcast 👌 keep up the good work.
Great podcast. Really interesting
Very difficult course i have passed it my self. Finding a good training provider is key to passing. Project is just as hard or hard then the exsam. Very rewarding once finished looks very good on the cv
Totally agree
Excellent 👌
Thanks Brian
Can you use single cable/o&m for the project? I'm tempted by this as I'd like the challenge but I have a HND so I don't know if it would improve my aspects any.
Ah just caught up to that bit...
How weird.. just searched 2396 as I'm taking my exam on Thursday and Craig pops up who was on my course the other week! 👋👋👋
Small world sometimes isn't it lol
Just did mine. How'd you find it?
@TravoltasBiplane yeah ok I think? Only 1 bit I didn't answer as ran out of time. How about yourself?
@@dipdobdab9202 was slower than I wanted to be on the first design section. It seemed a bit tricksy (or I just had the fear). As a consequence in the final third I was just blasting answers down and the quality definitely suffered. I answered all... But yeah got a bit ropy towards the end! Quality definitely started to suffer! Other than your missed question do you think you were pretty consistent? Toughest exam I've ever done I think.
Yeah I think so. I had a brain fart on another question regarding voltage range, so prob missed a mark there. And had to go back on 2 calc questions as I had done them wrong. Probably where my time went.
You don't really know excatly what you're writing is what they want to see to give you the marks, so who knows. Have to wait until July/August 🤞🤞🤞
I don't think the issue is with this course's pass rate at all, I believe the issue arises with most other courses where you're guaranteed to pass if you pay your money and turn up. I'm a semi retired spark who has undertaken a part time position as a QS and I'm continuously appalled at certifications that are presented to me. The level of obtain knowledge is pathetic by a very large number of electricians out there, as Jamie said the courses have been dumbed down, the collages and uni's over the last 10-20yrs has just been interested in getting bums on seats for money. So they have taught them how to pass the test/ course, not taught them about the concept and requirement of electricity and the electrical industry.
Regs book might aswell be a Harry Potter book.. all your doing is referencing a book. Absolutely waste of time unless you know what your referencing .