The Plan to Drain the Mediterranean Sea
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There is a proposal to dam the Strait of Gibraltar and drain the Mediterranean Sea. Introduced by German architect Herman Sorgel in the 1920’s, the proposal would include a massive dam and hydroelectric plant at the Strait of Gibraltar, along with dams at the Dardanelles Strait and between Sicily and Tunisia. Without water flowing in from the Atlantic, over 70 years, the sea level would drop 100 meters. 576,000 square kilometers of new land would be opened up and massive hydropower potential would be generated. In addition, in Africa, the Congo River would be dammed up, creating huge new inland seas in the Congo and Chad. Lastly, the project would unite Europe and Africa into a new supercontinent called Atlantropa. While Herman Sorgel promised a list of benefits for Atlantropa, the reality would be much different. It would strand historic coastal cities inland, all the new exposed land would be salt flats, it would displace millions, cost trillions of dollars and when introduced, would have allowed Europeans powers to exploit Africa.
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0:00-1:57 Introduction
1:57-7:02 Atlantropa
7:02-10:49 Negatives
10:49-13:12 Drain Mediterranean - Zábava
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Next , draining the Baltic sea 😂
The Ural sea drying up had major consequences for the region. The Mediterranean sea drying up would change the entire fabric of the Earths environments and weather patterns in ways we could not even remotely imagine.
Yeah, literally nobody is considering this option. For so many reasons.
Like, literally pick any country around the world and they'd be like "nah" for X reason.
All of those countries would become incredibly hotter, which they're suffering from. They'd have far less water available, less tourism. They also wouldn't want it for migration reasons.
Not Ural but Aral
Where the African gonna go 🧐🧐
URAL Mountains
ARAL sea
As an engineering project, this is fascinating.
As a political reality, this is a joke.
As a writer, this is great inspiration for alternative Earth stories.
A joke is an under statement.
Yeah this is a joke. Cutting countries from their ports!? Yeah that alone won't happen.
Who is complaining about wanting more land? The Vatican? Luxembourg?
Need more fresh water. Not fresh land.
Totally agree. While watching, I heard the narrator talk about making Africa more welcoming to Europeans, I thought to myself, would the Europeans be welcoming of Africans and Muslims moving North into Europe? You can see the hands of European 19th century colonialism all over the proposal, the basic theme is what can Africa do for Europe, what resources and Europe take from Africa. All the while denying Africans from Northern migration to satisfy the classism and racism from the Europeans.
About as fascinating as eugenics, and terraforming too. Lose your engineering license and more if you do a project like this. I hope justice comes to perpetrators of the Neom project thay persecuted and ended tribespeople who protested, and something to disincentivize and punish firms hired to design Neom structures
as a avarage European I think this is must be a joke 😂
why we need more access to Africa?
thats like some insane suggestion with no reason.
we cant control flow from Africa anyway. so how is making access between us benefit Europe?
its a lunatic idea.
The Med is one of the most beatiful places on Earth... why on 'Earth' would anyone think this is a good idea ?
It is a lousy idea.
Will LITERALLY NEVER happen, its just click bait bullshit
Well, he is German so maybe he didn't know
@@HouseJawnIt's hardly clickbait. It was an interesting what-if video.
@@tonyhawk123
It's clickbait because there are no countries considering it, so hardly a "plan to drain the Med" in any way.
Of course, in the opposite vein, you could do what some propose and fill the lowest parts of the Sahara with water and have the interior of the sahara turn green again, and it would be a way of finding a place to put in excess water coming from the polar regions
This something I thought too. Why are we not pumping out the water that is melting into the ocean into areas that would need them. Desalting the water then would make it drinkable
I agree. I'm not worried about sea levels rising, as we have so many places that need water .... and so many people who need drinking water. The world has thousands of kilometres of big oil and gas pipes. I suggest we build some huge water pipers ... first of all, let's fill the Aral Sea.
Let's also bring water to all the dry regions in Spain. France, Greece, Italy, Tunisia, and anywhere else.
People say it will cost a fortune. Oh yeah, but we are also using a fortune on protection against rising sea levels around our cities.
More water in dry areas will also create more skies .... maybe that would also help bring the global temperature down a bit?
There's only one problem left: brine. I'm not sure how to fix this problem, but I'm sure somebody can find a solution.
@@rlas How many $Trillions do you have lying around for this Clarktech project.
@@JeDindkI’m of the same opinion. I’ve seen quite a few videos on proposals to fill the Qattara Depression in Egypt and that’s a mega-project that I support 100% and hope to see in my lifetime. The only tweak I’d make to the proposals is instead of the proposed underground pipes leading to the depression from the Mediterranean Sea, they should build a canal from the Mediterranean Sea or even the Nile River so that ships may be able to access the new inland sea. Not only would ocean levels drop somewhat but it would have positive long-term impacts on the economy and the environment and I think that’s something we should all support
The historical data on sea level rise isn’t even 1” over more than 100 years. There has been no catastrophic sea level rise and the graph of this data is linear.
This is a thought experiment and not a serious proposal. Everyone who relies on the Suez canal will oppose this.
Plus, it would cause an ecological damage, let Mediterranean dry and evolved independently and naturally instead of man-made
Four minutes in, i can just imagine the loss of all that water and the weight it brings on the earth would cause some geological shifts somewhere on the planet. I remember seeing videos how Ice and water on land sinks it and causes shifts in other locations.
sea level rise is the bigger problem by far, considering nearly all the major historic nodes of the global economy (Manhattan, Shanghai, San Francisco, etc) - the critical nodal engines that drive nearly all of human thriving - would disappear beneath the sea
its just absolutely iddiotic in general...why we in Europe need to make access to North Africa easyer? 😂
I have nothing against Africans as a individuals but we cant have unlimited illegal immigration to our continent and this project would only make the access a lot easyer.
can you explain me how this would economically benefit EU when we literally getting flooded with people anyway, and North Africa isnt very eager to make businesses with Europe anyway.
we are "evil Europeans" out there.
so its amazing to see how smart people are thinking this project is not laughable
There used to be like three or four lakes right across the Sahara desert. They were there far more recently than we initially thought.
One thing that this neglects is that the Mediteranian provides a huge benefit to Europe as a waterway. Given the time that this idea was being developed and the fact that Britain controlled both Suez and Gibraltar at the time I can't help thinking that this play - essentially making them worthless and routing transport links into the Mediterranian through Tanzania and Congo was more or less a plan for Germany and its allies to Undermine the British Empire. The nuclear bomb issue of course wasn't a factor in the 1920s...
I mean, they could just build an artificial canal as long as the meditteranean to the suez.
Imagine how many afrikans would just walk to Europe
Lmao that's literally the first thing I'd imagine that would make this completely politically infeasible
(Not to mention the ENORMOUS tourism, fishing, navigation benefit from the Mediterranean)
My very 1st thought.
No thanks.
They currently just get on boats by the the tens of thousands every few months anyway. The UK suffers 40k illegals breaking in every year since 2020. By the time this came true, the UK and Europe will have collapsed into an even bigger third world shithole.
It is not even a plan it is fantasy
It's ecological catastrophe! Sooo crazy idea!
Dam that's a good plan. Imagine how much history will be uncovered. Imagine Europe becoming a desert.
If we did that boats from Asia would have to go all the way around Africa
It could be a good idea to counter the sea rise, but not to drain the sea
Sounds like something Elon Musk would think is a cool idea when smoking weed
Musk already has all of this planned for Mars. Earth is a lost hope.
This idea has been floating in science fiction around for centuries. The last time I read about this was a non-cannon Star Trek book where Captain James T. Kirk stands on the 22nd century engineering marvel.
"Atlantropa was not a great idea" ? This was the dumbest idea i've ever heard
Old boy was smoking that 1920s crack 😂
That's a hard "no".
Mediterranean is the best weather, biodiversity and food, life expectancy and more!
But what would happen to all the poor little fishes 🎏 😰 !?. (Could they ALL come & live with me, if this came to fruition ?).
Thanks for a video about a proposal from 1928 lmao
I sure would like some of whatever Herman was on when he dreamed this up! 🤣🤣
the Mediterranean sea flooded just 5000 years ago... - NOT 5 million...
I think the SEA has more benefits than closing it
Messing about with nature to that degree sounds like playing with fire 🔥
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Thanks for sharing! Really insightful
Interesting video; I am glad the video also tells about all the negative effects the render such a plan completely useless.
Will NEVERRRREER HAPPEN!! IMPOSSIBLE! WHY WOULD GREECE , SPAIN, FRANCE, MONACO AND ITALY GIVE UP THEIR COAST!?
They would technically gain bigger coasts
True
@@tonyhawk123 not really, considering some part of their coastline will be drain, plus, it would be an ecological catastrophe, many whale and fish species migrated to and from Atlantic to the Mediterranean, plus, it would be extremely expensive, and made no sense from economical standpoint, and this plan make NEOM seems like a feasible toy
@@tonyhawk123 they would, but it would be an inland coast. Which is basically useless when it comes to international trade.
@@tonyhawk123 Yeah like Egypt will have to 'give up' the Suez canal, it's at sea level. The level of stupid in this video is astounding.
Check out the Transaqua project to refill lake Chad from the Congo , still being discussed at least . Huge project.
Insanity to do such a thing in my opinion.
Draining a beautiful sea with waterfront property to make it easier for all of Africa to walk to Europe? I don’t think the Europeans would go for that
Pl. make a clip on Australia's the proposed inland sea & the canal connecting Carpentaria & Spencer Gulfs. those projects have a better chance of being realized, with huge benefits.
I can't imagine the costal resorts being happy about this!
this man herman sorgel describe euro neo colonial hegemony idea, work and plan the way he picture human development has to be they at the top level while the rest has to suffer hard work
'mare nostrum'
Great video!
Can you talk about the dedicated freight corridors in india
Soooooo, wouldn’t this prevent water from reaching countless locations via evaporation? Seems like it would cause so much more desertification.
I want whatever he was taking back than as this is a next level trip 😂
The fish and marine life will love that
Even if the Atlantropa is an insane idea, wouldn't it be good to use the currents flowing into the Mediterranean for production of electricity?
That Corsica and Sardinia island looks pretty cool though.
Iam Spanish and it will never be build gate or submarine tunnel to Africa.the rest of the builds sci-fi.
"The plan to drain the Mediterranean Sea"
TNO players: no no no no no no, wait wait wait wait, WAIT WAIT WAI WAIT!
Atlantropa would at-large, simply expand the Sahara to the north, making more land ... but less actually, livable land.
Can hardly wait for all the wars to start over that regained land!
That would be a heck of a dam. The straight is 2,950 feet deep.
Just Rename the Title into Neo Colonialism of Africa😂😂😂 Deliberately sidelined Asia
Only We will convert North Africa to Green and We European Can settle in North..😂😂😂
Such a Great Vision....
Chappar Soolemakkala..
This is deeply silly. The toll on wildlife would be catastrophic and all the seaside towns would die and Europe would NEVER go for that because there’s a reason they already haven’t built a bridge from Africa. Same reason there isn’t a road from South America to North.
nice video
Never gonna happen . The increased shipping costs of cancelling the suez canal would be near catastrophic .
I was thoroughly horrified by this. Flooding central Africa. WTF?!
It’s an interesting idea, but I think the negatives of draining the Mediterranean heavily outweigh the positives.
If that happens a whole gigantic super super continent would be aitropa
even if you dam the gibraltar suez canal will bring water from red sea to fill the med again
It will disaster for Not only region but also earth
The project was designed with colonial mindset
This is a non-starter. Too many countries involved.
What could go wrong?
they wouldn't be able to tame the natives in Africa will never work. And when they find all the lost civilizations under the sea, they will spend all their time digging it up
I had an alternate history where the Mediterranean Sea never existed or the Mediterranean Sea is stayed dried in which to be honest is a very messed up alternate history
I forgot the ice in the north and the possibility of liquefying it and pumping it to the reclaimed places.... who knows....
We need the Mediterranean for north African irrigation.
Doing so would make weather dryer. It would make the Saraha expand in all directions. It would make southern Europe dry. Winters would be colder including in North Africa. The Mediterranean keeps the region warmer, more temperate and rainy so Europe is not a desert. And North Africa would even be more dry without the Mediterranean. What places get some rain, eoulsnt get any after that.
Imagine a quake cracking that dam… what a FKG catastrophe with the Atlantic rushing in , would be like Badlands 2.0 .
A thought bubble that only looney communists could make happen along with the never ending disasters…
that is the worse idea ever because most trade routes would be cut off not only that but all the new dry up land would be desert so it would be like expanding the Sahara desert.
Good idea 👍❤ I like it 👍
70 years to drain it! We wouldn't even be around by then!
i can see us digging a channel to save the med makes sense
Won´t happen given that it will be too damaging to tourism.
Do not Mess with mother nature
TNO reference
In the face of rising sea levels Atlantropa may be Mediterranean cities best bet- don’t drain, and don’t dam off the Black Sea, just maintain at 20th century sea levels.
Never mind the environmental effects of removing a body of evaporating water from the water cycle, affecting global rainfall plus the considerable weight redistribution of Terra tonnes of water which would affect the planets' rotation, nutation and possible even the tilt, affecting seasons.. Quite insane. Makes CO2 pale into insignificance.
Ew no.
Imagine Sharing a continent with France.
One of the distinct advantages of draining the sea (and certainly NOT mentioned) would be that the present problem for boatpeople would immediately disappear. They would certainly NOT try to settle the newly available land; they would just flood Europe "en masse"! After all, why should they bother building a new culture in a new land, when it is so much easier to sponge on what Europe's ancestors have patiently built for thousands of years.
'peaceful alternative to the lebensraum' my guy you are literally talking about colonisation on steroids
Holy pipe dreams
LOl as if this will ever happen wtf
you love video idea never build dam north sea drain new land prjects
Absolutely not, 💀
this will literally never happen
Atlantis
This is madness!, LOL It will never happen
And if dams break? Wish good night
Making it the biggest fresh water lake in the world
The Questions is why
Are these videos science fiction?
“Would provide benefits for Europe” lol 😂 but Africa has more resources and is vastly bigger yet let’s focus on providing benefits for Europe - glad this silly plan didn’t work out
Damn, crazy how a 1928 plan by a Nazi isn´t that great for Africa lmao
Boo
Di it, do it!
No
ATLANTROPA: By blocking the Gibraltar Strait & Black Sea, we can drain the Mediterranean
SUEZ CANAL AND EUROPE'S RIVERS: Really?
😊👍
High?
I'm not sure Atlantropa would be the best name for it. How about Nightmaretropa?
This is not a serious video, please stop covering random stuff
Hey, did you know that the supercontinent that would result of this project would be called Atlantropa? The video seemed to overlook this detail.
This would be a environmental disaster. The new lands created would not be fertile land it would be filled with salt, other chemicals. When the winds would kick up it would fill the air with toxic dust causing asthma, other respiratory illnesses, disability, cancers. Take a look at Nevada , California which had a large lake in Nevada which is now does not exist. The few people who live there now suffer from asthma, cancers and some times a "dust bowl " like events happen. People will not be able to live in these New lands that are created and the other formal coastal areas, their ocean front villages, economies will be destroyed. Completely Insanity.