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Normal sudoku rules apply. The grid is covered by fog; placing a correct digit will clear the fog in surrounding cells. Digits in a cage do not repeat and sum to the total given, which may be placed in any cell of the cage. Cages of different colors may overlap. A digit on a grey circle is odd. Digits separated by a white dot are consecutive. Digits separated by a black dot are in a 2:1 ratio.
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1:48 Rules of today’s puzzle
3:00 Start Of Solve - Let's Get Cracking! - Zábava
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“I am, after all, pencil Mark” 😂
Far from Mark having dementia, doing puzzles everyday probably helps stave it off by constantly giving his brain a daily workout. 💪🧠
Rather than being a sign of dementia, I'd claim it's just being over-focused on something rather than thinking _laterally._
30:39 with the puzzle all but finished: "I should wake up, really, shouldn't I?". Mark always has the most perfect timing for his self-deprecation, I love it.
This was interesting. I agree, it was a bit hard to see the cage totals and the overlaps in some areas, but the idea was quite interesting. Thanks for the solve, Mark. And dementia? No way. Whoever suggested that has never been around someone with dementia.
Excellent idea and execution.
Mark's way of getting the 6, to complete the red 15 cage in box 6, was certainly a lot more efficient than my way:
"If the domino is 5,7, can we get 3 more to complete the cage...no. Okay, cage definitely contains a 3. What if it's 3,7 and we need 5 more.......no. Okay, so it's 3,5 and we need 7 more. Can we get that 7 if the cell in r2 is a 2 and we need 5 more....no. Right, so its 1,3,5 and this has to be a 6”.
To be fair, I wrote in the 7 in box 3 straight after, so swings and roundabouts. 😂
Finished in 22:51. Interesting combination of multiple cages with fog of war. There were some interesting assumptions being made about how cages can be constructed, but I assumed non-funky cages and it worked.
Fun puzzle!
Sadly had to give up. Liked the idea, but really tricky if you are red-green colour blind. Simply can't work out which number goes with which cage.
Agreed, I got stuck in box 3 for a while before using a browser extension to help me differentiate the colors. Perhaps some kind of colorblind/high contrast mode on sudokupad could help for this and similar puzzles.
This was fun! I missed the grey circle for far too long so dementia must be catching:) Thx Mark!
What a phenomenal solve! Well done Mark
Was able to finish this without help in 37:19 (conflict checker off), pretty good for being a bit drunk and having your partner of 28 years pass away today... thank you, Mark and Simon, for your videos pulling me through this time.
So sorry for your loss, -yes, sudoku and CtC do help in those days if anything can.
I had some struggles in this one because I assumed that the cages could bend and touch themselves. After giving up on that assumption I could easily finish the rest of the puzzle.
That would be naughty!
this is exactly what happened to me, I thought I was just not seeing it but it turns out it would have been impossible
Mark pulling out a Simon by deducing the 7 could only go in R3C7 because it doesnt go anywhere else in the column... and CLEARLY not because its a "357" cell with a 35 pair right next to it.
He almost pulled off the same trick getting the 1 in box 9 later.
I love fog. What a brilliant puzzle.
A great puzzle. I like that the cages are on top of each other and make sort of a mess😊
Mark, don't beat yourself up! Great solve as always!
22:48 Brilliant puzzle! What a clever setting! It had multiple bits of beautiful logic, my favorite being probably the red cage in box 3 ❤
13:55 for me. I really liked this idea, great puzzle!!
This was a really fun one, especialy the deduction from box 3 into box 6 and the green cage.
I had much fun solving the puzzle - and watching the video. Thank you for sharing both
Got through this with outrageous amounts of 'pencil-marking' -some boxes amazingly constrained when I actually worked them out
40:02
Dizzy was right! Those cages bent around the grid and around my brain!
I finished the puzzle, taking a long time. I needed the video to point out something obvious early, suggesting my dementia.
8:30 It's not the easiest to notice, but block 1 has a 3468 quad on the black dots.
Tough one, needed Mark's insight at the 6:10 mark.
57:19 for me. Phew.
Is there an unwritten rule about cages not being allowed to touch themselves? Otherwise I see no way to rule out that a 4 in row 6 cell 2 would belong to the 44 cage at 19:21
If you look at 25:50, the
@@QuarkTwain Ah right, somehow I did not notice that the cage border extended into row 9 column 2 before a digit revealed that cell. I think it's because I colored the cage red. 🤔
Nice one, thanks, though the overlapping cages were rather confusing at times.
Sadly I got lucky. I realized after I entered an 8 into R9C1 that I made a logical error, but happened to get the right digit in that cell anyways.
30m10s. The legibility was a little hard when my pencil markings also started flying around, but it wasn't too too bad. I appreciated the punchline in the lower right corner: "yes thank you I already know the green total is 16 and the blue total is 45 and it's an odd digit, thanks for the bevy of new information"
My condolences. Thoughts go out to you.
1:37:49@#4832. It was not a particularly pleasant experience. I had to struggle almost every step of the way, and got stuck for the longest time on that top-right corner. Partially because I could not quite trust that I had figured out where the box lines went. Still, I made it, so yay. 🎌
45:10, tried coloring the boxes as I solved to help keep track of things, but the colors and the overlapping boxes where too much for me. I super dug the logic of how the 44 cage and the
Good puzzle, personally I just didn't get on with it, I just couldn't keep track of the overlapping cages plus totals being anywhere in the cage
Rules: 01:46
Let's Get Cracking: 02:59
Mark's time: 28m07s
Puzzle Solved: 31:06
What about this video's Top Tier Simarkisms?!
Three In the Corner: 2x (08:51, 28:51)
The Secret: 1x (13:00)
And how about this video's Simarkisms?!
Sorry: 7x (05:04, 10:13, 15:31, 22:34, 25:05, 27:29, 30:37)
Pencil Mark/mark: 6x (12:15, 18:09, 25:08, 25:12, 25:23)
Hang On: 5x (10:08, 13:44, 18:48, 26:09, 26:41)
In Fact: 4x (15:20, 16:14, 22:00, 28:25)
Weird: 3x (17:37, 19:52, 27:16)
By Sudoku: 2x (13:47, 29:29)
What Does This Mean?: 2x (11:41, 26:53)
Ah: 2x (10:50, 26:09)
Goodness: 1x (12:25)
Clever: 1x (14:58)
Beautiful: 1x (19:29)
Brilliant: 1x (14:54)
First Digit: 1x (20:20)
Going Mad: 1x (29:00)
Shouting: 1x (22:34)
Obviously: 1x (16:55)
Wake Up: 1x (30:37)
Most popular number(>9), digit and colour this video:
Fifteen (9 mentions)
One (53 mentions)
Red (28 mentions)
Antithesis Battles:
Odd (4) - Even (1)
Outside (2) - Inside (1)
Black (7) - White (7)
Column (15) - Row (6)
FAQ:
Q1: You missed something!
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56:57 for me - slow going at points, but definitely a puzzle where you always know where you should be looking for the next step.
Finished in 36:40 with help from the video with the logic for the 15 and 44 cages and from a killer sudoku calculator.
What a brilliant and absolutely wonderful and exciting foggy.
I hope that someone creates a Sudoku puzzle where the rules says that you cannot pencil mark, nor can you color!
the R3C7 7 was bothering me for like 10 minutes lol
I solved it in 24 mins 11 secs which is quicker than Mark!!! Yeah I feel like I’ve won the world when I haven’t but this feeling of solving any sudoku faster than Mark is so soothing
This will make everyone feel good about themselves... 79:39 Every breakhrough had me shaking my head wondering how I missed it.
I took a slightly different path at the end and ended up with, what i thought was, a deadly pattern with 8s and 9s in boxes 3 and 6. i didn't have r9c9 revealed and started panicking to the point where I was sure I messed it up
23:52 for me. Nice puzzle!
46.55 for me. I got stuck a couple of times, but love this puzzle.
15:39 for me
nice puzzle
neat puzzle...though I don't know what purpose that circle in R9C9 served.
I made a mistake on the red 44 cage. When I saw it needed 4 and 8, I placed a 48 pair in column 2. Completely ignored the possibility that the cage extended into column 1 with a horizontal 48 pair. I guessed that I had made a mistake when I filled the
Can’t wait to try the fog of war
Really don't like how hard it is to read the totals in this puzzle, almost wish there was a better way to denote which cages had which totals. Otherwise a very interesting solve.
Nice idea. The cages and total were too hard to see on my phone.
"I'm sure you know the secret." @13:00
Careful, Mark! You'll alienate any viewer who's watching their first video. I'm told everyone loves being told the sum of 1 through 9 at least twice a day, and by not indicating we're your favorite person being told this amazing secret, you'll have people unsubscribing by the tens of thousands.
The 44 cage in column 3 was my absolute favorite, the way its 4 and 8 were revealed from across the puzzle was really cool.
48:40 .... I found it a real brain twister!
In 15:15, what is the reason for 1 being in R6C6? It could be in R6C7 without breaking the 6 red cage, right?
I got it in 64 minutes. For some reason my brain forgot that cages an branch at anytime underneath the fog. I must have been doing too many single line snake puzzles. Other than that, this puzzle was very fun, even the joke clue in r9c9 that gave me no help after I had already proved it before uncovering it through the fog. Great Puzzle!
22:59. I assumed that R9C1 was an 8 too early, but it worked out
26:16 for me. all those overlapping cages are quite disorienting.
1:08:33 - Git there in the end.
Hard to read, but fun to solve!
While solving harder puzzles you do less mistakes
Really enjoyed it, i still think r9c9 is a bit of a troll (or at least a joke) as it has so many clues...
I didn't even notice the grey circle until someone else pointed it out, but yes, definitely done for laughs. 😂
I watched this just to find out if the circle in R9C9 had any purpose.
the line tool was made for this puzzle.
Th3 4s marking really through off the solve.
30:11 for me
Simply could not see the overlapping cages and colours and totals.
The second grey circle seemed pointless...
I guess it went with the theme of all the information revealed in r9c9 being pointless information, including the cage totals.
(I didn't remember noticing the cage totals, nor the second grey circle, during my solve. I had to go back and check when watching Mark's solve, that it did indeed include the cage totals, and then again after reading your comment, for the grey circle 🙂).
36:19 for me.
Neither of the two odd circles were necessary at all. Why were they there?
Sure, r9c9 is a troll cell. But how are you eliminating 4 from r7c5 without the circle?
At 19:24 there's an invalid conclusion that the 4 in the red 44 cage must be in R9C1-R9C2. Nothing in the rules precludes a cage drawn with a divider between cells in the cage - we've seen this with trickster puzzles before, so it is a valid, if unconventional, way to draw a cage. Rules as written, the 44 cage could include R5C2-R6C2 or R8C2-R9C2, allowing the 4 to be in R6C2, R8C2, or R9C2.
As far as I can tell, that is a fault in the rules, though, as after an hour of wracking my brain, there does not appear to be a way to solve the puzzle without drawing that inference.
I'd say what you are talking about is an exception to the normal killer cage rule that needs to be called out when used. Otherwise that would need to to be stated for every killer cage puzzle.
@@heighlylikely it's necessary in combination with fog-of-war. To paraphase: anything not forbidden is permitted. Trick puzzles teach that omission of a rule is permission for the setter to violate that (unspoken) rule. I've even seen non-trick puzzles use unconventional interpretations of the rules. Sometimes it happens so often that we see it called out now, like with Kropki Dots, the lack of a negative constraint is called out in the rules.
That's what I was thinking, what's stopping him at that time of putting that 8 in R5C2 then a 4 in R6C2?
you have to use the edge od the cage. You need a 4 in the 44 sum cage and you can't use the 4 in the R6 since the edge of the cage prevent it. Same reason for R8
@@soulsilver6799 The point is that deducing that R6C2 is not in the cage becaue of the cage lin is not a valid deduction - it is an inductive conclusion that is premised on the constructor not being tricky. Its the exact same logic as "if I did this, there would be a deadly pattern there, so I can't do it". Sudokus should be solvable via deductive logic alone.
00:48:35
Hate to say it but I took many wrong paths to lead me to the correct answer when I got lucky.
The cage total in r3c8 is incredibly unfriendly design. The colors are already quite close for colorblindness, but a couple tiny-font numbers are even harder to tell the color of or to match them with a cage (and indeed we see even the non-coloblind Mark struggle with this). There's also nothing in the rules actually stating that cage-totals are supposed to have colors that match their cage color, as a heads-up to be careful about this -- in fact, it seemed like the constructor had actually meant that *both* cages had a total of 15, and was just being clever with cage-total placement. (This breaking eventually forced me to brute-force test some fog (and subsequently check the video) simply to see what the heck was even intended, and that ultimately led to me deciding that this puzzle was not worth finishing).
The worse aspect of this is that there's no reason it couldn't have just been placed in r2c8 instead.
This puzzle already has visual acuity issues with the overlapping cages (atop the visual acuity issue of cages+fog). Some of that is just an intrinsic difficulty with the idea, and that can be accepted. But actively misleading design shouldn't be.
34:53 for me and solver #6181.
Solved in 33:09.
33 minutes
10:37 for me.
Dementia? What?? That doesn't make any sense. The only people who can know this is you and you family/friends. Who are this person who said this?? You can't believe in such nonsense!!!
The puzzle was crazily good. It was hard to seeing the cage totals, but it as ok! I enjoyed!! 😁
Red green colours? No cyclists will be able to complete it based on their behaviour at traffic lights!
Cry harder, carbrain
Fog garbage. Video blocked.
Got turned off of this one almost immediately. The very first digits were a fun opening, but then I just hit a brick wall. Had to watch the video (and rewatch it probably 3 times) to see how Mark was able to place r2c5. And that degree of slog, so different from the elegance of the opening deduction just killed my motivation to try and get any further with it, which is too bad because I've historically really enjoyed the fog of war puzzles featured on the channel.
For whatever reason, considering minimum/maximum possible digits and degrees of freedom with killer cages is just not a place my brain ever naturally goes to. And even when I'm watching Mark break it down in the video, it just comes across like he's a wizard...