He wasn't 'comparing' in the sense of harm done. He was pointing out how humans can over time and with manipulation from governments and media, hold extreme views that make no sense, views that said people would have laughed at or been horrified at once upon a time.
I wonder how Nazi holocaust victims feel about being compared to antivaxxers??? 😱. Being denied access to places where you may be a danger to others (during a pandemic) where vulnerable people are dying is not the same as being rounded up in concentration camps to.be exterminated. You must miss Fox News! The comparison is so disrespectful & disgusting. Shame on you both.
Most of it was perpetuated by the Cristian church with it lasting up until the 1960s. Mel Gibsons views on the Jews are similar to the old Cristian view of the Jews whom they blamed for Jesus death. Surprised you didn’t cite Trumps views of Mexicans as another example.
Lillian is so innocent her mind can’t even compute that people can be so evil ,it’s a shame you have to tell her .but we can’t live in ignorance in case it happens again
I recommend the definitive ww2 series "the world at war" it covers all of ww2.with actual survivors of the time including the lead up to it and how the german people got to where they were at the time.
That's curious, my mother was born in 1960 and was _not_ taught about WW2 because it wasn't long enough ago to be considered "history". What classes taught about the war, if you remember?
Something that people really don't like to talk about is how the eugenics theories of the mid-century Germans came from America. Not the _whole_ ideology obviously, but the idea of eugenics.
Hi Lillian & Felipe, as Nick recommends, (The World At War) is the documentary to watch to broaden your knowledge of what happened. What you are discussing is covered mainly in Episode 1 : A New Germany 1933-39. I watched this Series as it was broadcast & learnt a lot more about WW2 than I did at School. A further example of answers to your conversation is shown in Episode 18 : Occupation : Holland 1940-44. How civilians were tricked into being complicit in the rounding up of the Jews using their own civilian government.
Are you going down a rabbit hole I wonder? You're starting to get interested in modern British history (or modern world history from a (not the) British perspective). It is utterly different from America's perspective very generally speaking - profoundly, actually. I am British but I lived in the US as a child in the late 70s/early 80s because of my father's work. He recorded his insights into precisely this comparative perspective in a series of cassettes that he used to send home to his parents, and which I now have. They are revealing and informative in their own way and, of course, very precious to me. It seems to me that you both possess a reinforced concrete moral foundation which I greatly admire, and a clear sense of decency, (informed, at least partly I suspect, by the Church), so you are refreshingly astonished and outraged (in a very low-key and urbane way, naturally) when you discover new astonishingly outrageous things. In other words, you are good. Carry on :)
British pathe is interesting to watch. There's one segment I saw about the launching of the aircraft carrier HMS Formidable. She launched herself by accident and crushed some spectators.
We do not routinely vaccinate for chicken pox in the UK. Only if at risk like pregnant women or anybody who is immunocompromised or elderly who have not had chicken pox in the past
I had a woman nag at me for not having the jab saying I could give it her, I pointed out if the jab is so great and you've had it why worry about me, I pointed out she can still catch and and pass it on
School wasted SO much time forcing us to pointlessly learn dates about, say, when the spinning Jenny was invented, there was no freakin' time left to learn anything genuinely useful. Forcing children to learn POINTLESS data is the best indication we have that educators are / were either INCOMPETENT or had a different agenda - I suspect the former. Some of our teachers made a plank of wood look like Einstein. Some of them completely neglected their duty to actually teach us anything. ONE OR TWO WERE GREAT - DEDICATED, BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE - some were utterly useless wage collectors and child abusers. Disgusting examples of the teaching profession. I will deeply resent some of them to my dying day.
In these current times with the rabid ostracisation of anti mask and vaccination believers, we would do well to keep to the forefront of our mind the poem by Martin Niemöller “First they came for the socialists and I didn’t speak out”.
@@fatboostgiygi you are not the sharpest tool in the box are you? I’m not an arguing against vaccines, I’m arguing about peoples rights to hold differing opinions freely.
History is a pretty big subject. Don't feel too bad not knowing about everything. I am sure there is a great deal that is taught in the American school system that wouldn't be very relevant in the UK. At least you are both smart enough to broaden your experience and knowledge whilst over here. Good on you!
Nepotism is the word. It was specific to nephews but changed. By watching Pathe, can you now see where Harry Enfield gets Mr CW?
LOL Comparing COVID to the Holocaust - you crack me up Felipe!
He wasn't 'comparing' in the sense of harm done. He was pointing out how humans can over time and with manipulation from governments and media, hold extreme views that make no sense, views that said people would have laughed at or been horrified at once upon a time.
I wonder how Nazi holocaust victims feel about being compared to antivaxxers??? 😱. Being denied access to places where you may be a danger to others (during a pandemic) where vulnerable people are dying is not the same as being rounded up in concentration camps to.be exterminated. You must miss Fox News! The comparison is so disrespectful & disgusting. Shame on you both.
Anti semitic has been a thing in Europe for centuries. Some countries more so than others. Long history.
Edward longshanks
If you read j law you understand why?
Most of it was perpetuated by the Cristian church with it lasting up until the 1960s. Mel Gibsons views on the Jews are similar to the old Cristian view of the Jews whom they blamed for Jesus death. Surprised you didn’t cite Trumps views of Mexicans as another example.
Lillian is so innocent her mind can’t even compute that people can be so evil ,it’s a shame you have to tell her .but we can’t live in ignorance in case it happens again
I recommend the definitive ww2 series "the world at war" it covers all of ww2.with actual survivors of the time including the lead up to it and how the german people got to where they were at the time.
Brilliant series👍 Got all 26 episodes though unfortunately on vhs.
One of the best series ever made
Ashkenazim are the world's most successful ethnic group. Their success is one of the reasons for the hostility towards them.
There are other reasons too
Nepotism
Born in 1948 we were taught much more about WW2 during school as WW2 was a recent event .
That's curious, my mother was born in 1960 and was _not_ taught about WW2 because it wasn't long enough ago to be considered "history". What classes taught about the war, if you remember?
Nepotism, keep it in the family. Hi guys.
Something that people really don't like to talk about is how the eugenics theories of the mid-century Germans came from America. Not the _whole_ ideology obviously, but the idea of eugenics.
DYNASTY I suffer from forgetting the right word too lol.
Hope this stays up... I don't recall any "medical misinformation" haha
Hi Lillian & Felipe, as Nick recommends, (The World At War) is the documentary to watch to broaden your knowledge of what happened. What you are discussing is covered mainly in Episode 1 : A New Germany 1933-39. I watched this Series as it was broadcast & learnt a lot more about WW2 than I did at School.
A further example of answers to your conversation is shown in Episode 18 : Occupation : Holland 1940-44. How civilians were tricked into being complicit in the rounding up of the Jews using their own civilian government.
Great patience Felipe. Yep, this is health (and safety) on steroids!! How witty..😁!
Passing on to your family is nepotism
Are you going down a rabbit hole I wonder? You're starting to get interested in modern British history (or modern world history from a (not the) British perspective). It is utterly different from America's perspective very generally speaking - profoundly, actually.
I am British but I lived in the US as a child in the late 70s/early 80s because of my father's work. He recorded his insights into precisely this comparative perspective in a series of cassettes that he used to send home to his parents, and which I now have. They are revealing and informative in their own way and, of course, very precious to me.
It seems to me that you both possess a reinforced concrete moral foundation which I greatly admire, and a clear sense of decency, (informed, at least partly I suspect, by the Church), so you are refreshingly astonished and outraged (in a very low-key and urbane way, naturally) when you discover new astonishingly outrageous things.
In other words, you are good. Carry on :)
Filipe, I think the word that escaped you is 'nepotism' - the passing of favours to members of the same family.
British pathe is interesting to watch. There's one segment I saw about the launching of the aircraft carrier HMS Formidable. She launched herself by accident and crushed some spectators.
We do not routinely vaccinate for chicken pox in the UK. Only if at risk like pregnant women or anybody who is immunocompromised or elderly who have not had chicken pox in the past
"...a society soaked in oestrogen..." Nail on the head again Felipe. In a nutshell. 💯%
Sadly, this is a symptom of weak men in society.
I had a woman nag at me for not having the jab saying I could give it her, I pointed out if the jab is so great and you've had it why worry about me, I pointed out she can still catch and and pass it on
Dynasty
Excellent explanation of things Fillipe as usual. Very wise man
School wasted SO much time forcing us to pointlessly learn dates about, say, when the spinning Jenny was invented, there was no freakin' time left to learn anything genuinely useful. Forcing children to learn POINTLESS data is the best indication we have that educators are / were either INCOMPETENT or had a different agenda - I suspect the former. Some of our teachers made a plank of wood look like Einstein. Some of them completely neglected their duty to actually teach us anything. ONE OR TWO WERE GREAT - DEDICATED, BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE - some were utterly useless wage collectors and child abusers. Disgusting examples of the teaching profession. I will deeply resent some of them to my dying day.
Lillian's so beautiful. Looking radiant.
1916
In these current times with the rabid ostracisation of anti mask and vaccination believers, we would do well to keep to the forefront of our mind the poem by Martin Niemöller “First they came for the socialists and I didn’t speak out”.
Grow up. Vaccines are to get rid of a disease that is killing hundreds of thousands.
@@fatboostgiygi you are not the sharpest tool in the box are you? I’m not an arguing against vaccines, I’m arguing about peoples rights to hold differing opinions freely.
History is a pretty big subject. Don't feel too bad not knowing about everything. I am sure there is a great deal that is taught in the American school system that wouldn't be very relevant in the UK. At least you are both smart enough to broaden your experience and knowledge whilst over here. Good on you!
Nepotism . . Nepotistic
No such thing as antisemitism