How Green Victorian Dresses Killed Those Wearing Them

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  • čas přidán 21. 08. 2024
  • Pretty hurts, but can fashion kill? It sure could back in the Victorian era, when a much-desired dress dye was actually highly poisonous. Even when the word started to spread, Victorian fashionistas didn't immediately abandon the poisonous dye, and an unknown number of illnesses and deaths were the result. Of course, the manufacturers weren't ignorant of this toxic effect, but for various reasons continued to use the dye. Today, we'd never use rat poison to make our clothes pretty, at least we think we wouldn't (hindsight, of course, is 20/20). This is how green Victorian dressed killed those wearing them.
    #Dresses #Fashion #VictorianEra
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Komentáře • 97

  • @GrungeHQ
    @GrungeHQ  Před 2 lety +13

    Do you know of anything harmful that goes into todays everyday items that people seem to ignore?

    • @ghostcityshelton9378
      @ghostcityshelton9378 Před 2 lety +5

      How about plastic bottles that water and other drinks sold in plastic bottles. Also some air fresheners, esp. the ones sprayed on lightbulbs.
      When folks use heat on plastic bottles, the fumes. Maybe some coatings on pans used to cook with
      Those pretend logs folks burn in their fireplaces..

    • @ghostcityshelton9378
      @ghostcityshelton9378 Před 2 lety +4

      JUST HOW SAFE ARE LIVING PEOPLE FROM ALL THE CEMETERY'S THEY LIVE CLOSE BY TOO ?!! EVEN IN TODAYS TIME.
      In the 1800's in the City of London people were getting very sick, & many died, including animals after drinking from a town square water fountain.
      Above the town and to the left was, still is, a large cemetery. The water under the cemetery broke though and dumped into the closest river to it, which happened to be the river the towns people got their drinking water, they bathed in it, washed clothes, used in cooking their meals with. Folks would sip from the town fountain and give drinks to their animals. So that's why many died back then.
      That same fountain is still there, but its' locked down now.

    • @badfairy9554
      @badfairy9554 Před 2 lety +4

      OMG all I have on right now is green!

    • @michaelmathias3277
      @michaelmathias3277 Před 2 lety +2

      Any diet soft drink and the containers that they use.

    • @abearinthewoods8423
      @abearinthewoods8423 Před 2 lety +1

      You are making Victorian women out be intentional killers with words like "ignore" and intentionally obscuring how information passed at that time. I feel like this guy would have fit right in with the whole Angel of the House Victorian mindset. "Oh yes, I love abusing women and then accusing them of being at fault." Historical gaslighting.

  • @blindpilot3849
    @blindpilot3849 Před 2 lety +27

    ...looking suspicious at my only green blouse in my closet that I've never worn for some reason...👀

  • @sherrimarshall3191
    @sherrimarshall3191 Před 2 lety +12

    Boy I knew about the wallpaper and the furniture but didn't know about those green dresses .You're right fashion to die for!

  • @goldbars777
    @goldbars777 Před 2 lety +44

    Makes me think of the gorgeous emerald green dress Mammy made (old drapes) for Scarlett in Gone With The Wind.

    • @risalangdon9883
      @risalangdon9883 Před 2 lety +3

      OMG! That was the first thing that popped into my mind as well lol.
      And as curtains hanging in a window, you'd think the heat of the sun beating on it would cause the fabric to emit even more of the toxins into the air. Smh, makes me thankful that with my complexion, I personally never cared to wear anything green. Except maybe on St. Patrick's Day. Lol.

    • @pearlwhite3009
      @pearlwhite3009 Před 2 lety +1

      I loved that movie, and read the book, too. Thought of that dress during the whole video. All of Scarlett's dresses were gorgeous, as was Vivien Leigh.

  • @seviregis7441
    @seviregis7441 Před 2 lety +4

    Wow, never heard that before. I love green. Hard to believe anyone would still use arsenic laced toxic dyes like that today...

    • @JudgeJulieLit
      @JudgeJulieLit Před 2 lety +2

      Why government "independent" product safety regulation became and remains necessary.

  • @alexbowman7582
    @alexbowman7582 Před 2 lety +10

    Arsenic, along with cyanide, are stimulants in small doses. Napoleons said he was growing old before his time. Was he poisoned by the British? Or was it arsenic in candles and wallpaper or was his early death from stomach cancer a side effect from the venereal disease he almost certainly caught whilst young?

  • @feliciajenkins5041
    @feliciajenkins5041 Před 2 lety +12

    So if the corset didn't get you the arsenic will😱

  • @ceasefireinc.9040
    @ceasefireinc.9040 Před 2 lety +8

    I loved the clips of horrible histories!! That’s was my favourite show as kid!

    • @kl2894
      @kl2894 Před 2 lety

      Have you watched their show Ghosts? The main cast from Horrible Histories has their own sitcom.

  • @rosaspanjol673
    @rosaspanjol673 Před 2 lety +5

    Wow, and I love green.. Now, I don’t know if I want to wear green clothes 😢

    • @JudgeJulieLit
      @JudgeJulieLit Před 2 lety +1

      Likely arsenic now has been long banned in the textile industry in USA.

  • @lisaeh591
    @lisaeh591 Před 2 lety +8

    My family quilt, which was made and verified, in 1864, has Poison Green along the edge.

  • @leesashriber5097
    @leesashriber5097 Před 2 lety +5

    Found this very interesting. Thank you! 😊

  • @jomama5186
    @jomama5186 Před 2 lety +8

    I had no clue they used this in dresses as well! I knew they had used it in their homes as wallpaper. Very interesting, sad, but interesting.

    • @Ja-jt1ym
      @Ja-jt1ym Před rokem

      They also used arsenic in book bindings. Yes, killer books exist!

  • @vegasrocks2526
    @vegasrocks2526 Před 2 lety +3

    Gives new meaning 2 the movie "arcenic and old lace"

  • @WhoAteGilbertGunt
    @WhoAteGilbertGunt Před 2 lety +4

    Must have been Sheele’s green (a dye that at the time was particularly deadly due to its large amounts of arsenic).

  • @fantasyprincessgirl
    @fantasyprincessgirl Před 2 lety +10

    Don’t send this to Scarlett O’Hara

    • @JudgeJulieLit
      @JudgeJulieLit Před 2 lety +1

      She's the first one who ought have been taught this.

  • @normanbaratelli4651
    @normanbaratelli4651 Před 2 lety +5

    This is ONE reason we NEED REGULATIONS in business, especially in a capitalist society where money is religion and mercy an afterthought.

  • @patriciaeddy7629
    @patriciaeddy7629 Před 2 lety +4

    Hmm 🤔
    Was very unaware of this strange goings-on about Victorian's desired attire.

  • @jazzerzzz22
    @jazzerzzz22 Před 2 lety +17

    I think every Era of fashion has a dangerous or deadly item/s/acts.. It's an unfortunate thing what some people will do for fashion or attention. I'm all for doing what makes you happy or feel good, but at the cost of not just your life, but others, was it really worth it?

    • @Reyvion
      @Reyvion Před 2 lety +1

      Just like how in today's era of fashion people will starve themselves for days and sometimes even weeks just for a bit of attention

    • @jazzerzzz22
      @jazzerzzz22 Před 2 lety

      @@Reyvion exactly.. I just didn't want to make a TW... But yes, that's exactly what I was alluding to.

  • @yvonnewitherspoon846
    @yvonnewitherspoon846 Před 2 lety +4

    WoW ! This is unbelievably interesting. We're thankful for "mother necessity" ♥️🤗♥️

  • @LilFoxyCosplay
    @LilFoxyCosplay Před 2 lety +1

    Love the horrible histories clips! I still watch it from time to time though the new ones arent the same

  • @waterbird91
    @waterbird91 Před rokem +2

    If they knew arsenic was toxic, then WHY would they use it in fabric dyes ???? There are plants in nature that would do the job just the same w/ out the toxicity. So stupid back then. And the fact that it was smelly too.🌱🌱🌿🌿😻😵😱😱

  • @darenstroud6254
    @darenstroud6254 Před 2 lety +3

    How vain do you have to be that you are willing to die to apparently look attractive to others?

  • @bendeywendy8065
    @bendeywendy8065 Před 2 lety +2

    "Unmistakable mouse odour". I surely can't be the only person who has no what this would be like

    • @kl2894
      @kl2894 Před 2 lety +1

      Trust me, if you've smelled a mouse once, then you're going to remember it.

    • @JudgeJulieLit
      @JudgeJulieLit Před 2 lety +2

      @@kl2894 Thanks to loss (or relocate) of wild mouse habitat, and family pet cats, most Millenials have never smelled a mouse.

    • @kl2894
      @kl2894 Před 2 lety +1

      @@JudgeJulieLit Having lived through a mouse plague in the 90s, I can only say that I'm envious of millennials.

  • @kl2894
    @kl2894 Před 2 lety +2

    Watches this while wearing a green t-shirt 😬

  • @jamieryall8341
    @jamieryall8341 Před 2 lety

    Wow! Thanks for this interesting video.

  • @ghostcityshelton9378
    @ghostcityshelton9378 Před 2 lety +2

    JUST HOW SAFE ARE LIVING FOLKS WHO LIVE BY CEMITARY'S ? WATER DRINKING WISE.
    ALSO== When they put bodies in a metal box type machine and use scalding hot water to strip the fleash off bodies and it goes where? Even if it goes to ' water treatment ' plants...I think it's gross.

    • @JudgeJulieLit
      @JudgeJulieLit Před 2 lety +1

      Boiling water to 212 degrees Fahrenheit kills most to all microbes. So does sunlight. For eons of Earth history creatures have died, decomposed, and nature recycles their chemicals into new life.

  • @waterbird91
    @waterbird91 Před rokem +1

    Did you say green fabric made today can be toxic as well ??? What ? I wear a lot of green cause it's my favorite color.

  • @jenx2512
    @jenx2512 Před 2 lety +1

    Me: omg I need a green dress!
    Watches 'till the end...oh...never mind.

  • @JudgeJulieLit
    @JudgeJulieLit Před 2 lety +1

    In the novel and film Gone With the Wind, after the US Civil War, nouveau riche Scarlett O'Hara Butler (who had snared Rhett wearing a Tara velvet drapery made moss green gown) exults that she'll make all society ladies "pea green with envy!"

  • @ghostcityshelton9378
    @ghostcityshelton9378 Před 2 lety +7

    In St. Louis they have a very big man made hill--mountain stature with steps leading to the top where there are some benches as well.
    There are no warning sgins stateing what is INSIDE that hill-mountain which is all kinds of medical wastes, many, many tin barrows of all kinds of Nuke wasts like from 3 mile Island, old X-ray machines ect.
    There is a river not far from that hill-mountain with all the toxic wastes in it. I can't help wondering of how much radiation 'visitor's' get and how much Nuke wastes have already seeped into the ground and has it also it the water system?
    Didn't folks go mad marking Top Hats while useing that poison too?
    That's why they called them 'Mad Hatters'.

    • @ElysetheEevee
      @ElysetheEevee Před 2 lety

      Hatters used mercury for hatting. They were talking about arsenic in this video.

    • @carbonation4663
      @carbonation4663 Před 2 lety +4

      The term “Mad Hatters” came from when pelt trading was a big thing, and they would use mercury to make pelt hats, but the mercury would get absorbed into their skin; making them go mad.

    • @JudgeJulieLit
      @JudgeJulieLit Před 2 lety +2

      @@carbonation4663 The mercury absorbed through hatters' skin then attacked their nervous systems, so maddening them both in brain circuitry and motor coordination.

    • @JudgeJulieLit
      @JudgeJulieLit Před 2 lety +1

      Btw aluminum in cooking utensils, antiperspirants and more is one cause of Alzheimers. Two points of light: the herbs cilantro and parsley in diet help chelate, hook toxic metals out of the animal, e.g., human body.

  • @Apexl0l8495
    @Apexl0l8495 Před 5 měsíci

    The slim centre of the dress squashed the organs and moved them across the body, caused damage to the lungs, and digestion problems.

  • @ghostcityshelton9378
    @ghostcityshelton9378 Před 2 lety +1

    Himmmmm....So what should one wear on St. Patrick's day🤔
    I knew about the outfits and wall paper, but I didn't know they did the rugs bit, or that to THIS DAY about the green coloured clothes still are abit toxic. (So any other colours?)

    • @JudgeJulieLit
      @JudgeJulieLit Před 2 lety +1

      Nontoxic green dye can be made from green plants.

  • @pavlikm85
    @pavlikm85 Před 23 dny

    I think it was an entirely different kind of greed that was at play there, and that it was in fact the origin of the belief that green is healthy.
    As this arsenic green became more popular, the doctors, horrified, realized that all the diseases that they treated with arsenic were, in fact only symptoms of its deficiency, which meant they would lose a large part their jobs. So they came together, and agreed to create the myth that it's a deadly toxin completely on purpose.

  • @ritasecrease9460
    @ritasecrease9460 Před 2 lety

    THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT ABSOLUTE TRUTH! NOW I KNOW BETTER! THANK GODS THAT WE LIVE IN THE GLORIOUS 21ST CENTURY!

  • @alywi
    @alywi Před 2 lety +2

    Wait…were The Bare Naked Ladies being literal when they sang, “but not a real green dress, that’s cruel” in If I Had A Million Dollars??
    *searching articles

    • @ellevonk.2925
      @ellevonk.2925 Před 2 lety +1

      Thank you! I came looking for this very comment. That line has always baffled me but this would definitely make the most sense!

    • @alywi
      @alywi Před 2 lety

      @@ellevonk.2925 right?? I had thought they just didn’t like the aesthetic of green.

    • @JudgeJulieLit
      @JudgeJulieLit Před 2 lety +1

      ​@@alywi Culturally green has been the color of fickleness and envy, as well as of natural vegetative growth.

  • @blackshard641
    @blackshard641 Před 2 lety +1

    That's cruel

  • @michaelmathias3277
    @michaelmathias3277 Před 2 lety +1

    They should look suspiciously at Taco Bell "meat."

  • @michellecrocker2485
    @michellecrocker2485 Před 2 lety +1

    Too bad there wasn’t a green color recall

  • @emmaphilo4049
    @emmaphilo4049 Před 2 lety

    We are not far off nowadays with the stupid fast fashion we have going on...

  • @reddeadjuju
    @reddeadjuju Před 2 lety +2

    Guess that's where they got the term "a woman to die for" lol 😆

  • @craigathonian
    @craigathonian Před 2 lety +1

    I'd have say the deadliest thing on earth to be put in clothing are....... HUMANS !

  • @jamesfournier3458
    @jamesfournier3458 Před 2 lety

    Green with envy? I don't think so.

  • @deanbembridge8640
    @deanbembridge8640 Před 2 lety

    Interesting 👍

  • @pozzee2809
    @pozzee2809 Před 2 lety

    Money, the problem 😳 not possible 🙄

  • @847lifestyle
    @847lifestyle Před 2 lety

    dye is weird huh

  • @shelleysquires2741
    @shelleysquires2741 Před 2 lety

    Aresenic. We already knew that

  • @ecash00
    @ecash00 Před 2 lety +1

    Umm, you really need to look up hte history of Colors. Royal red and Blue were not made Easily.

    • @JudgeJulieLit
      @JudgeJulieLit Před 2 lety

      And yet if you cut or bite into a beet, its red pigment is nearly indelible.

  • @petergiger1278
    @petergiger1278 Před 2 lety

    Not reassuring to note the fatalistic personality with their Fatal attractions is not a 21st century improvisation.

  • @scottish5696
    @scottish5696 Před 2 lety +1

    Hey grunge can u do a video on rabies please? Its peaked my Interest recently.

    • @ElysetheEevee
      @ElysetheEevee Před 2 lety +2

      Rabies is horribly scary. I have a secret fascination with it just because of how deadly and scary it is. So many people contract it and don't even know until it's too late. If you've seen any videos of sufferers already too far gone, it's just sickening.... Rabies is so messed up.

    • @scottish5696
      @scottish5696 Před 2 lety

      @@ElysetheEevee yeah well that's it, I've seen a lot of people and animals suffer with it. Didnt know it was so deadly.

    • @JudgeJulieLit
      @JudgeJulieLit Před 2 lety +2

      ​@@scottish5696 See the 1950s Disney film Old Yeller. It's about a family dog who is bitten by a rabid wild animal (symptoms are foaming saliva and an unsteady, erratic gait), and so at the film end (spoiler alert) has to be shot, put down. There is a series of painful rabies antibiotic shots that must asap be given to anyone infected with rabies, which can prevent further sickness, dyskinesia, paralysis and death.

  • @MrJoeybabe25
    @MrJoeybabe25 Před 2 lety +1

    Strange. The video began with the idea that this women knew that these dresses were toxic.
    Don't they deserve the blame for the spreading of this poison? Why not jail them?

    • @cautiouslyoptimistic1962
      @cautiouslyoptimistic1962 Před 2 lety

      Also why weren't the manufacturers held accountable for making it in the first place?

  • @magnolia9786
    @magnolia9786 Před 2 lety

    Just my color 😏💅🏻💰💎👑

  • @shannonnewman3091
    @shannonnewman3091 Před 2 lety

    Wow !

  • @dsanchez9703
    @dsanchez9703 Před 2 lety +2

    Daam

  • @HoneyHoneyBaby
    @HoneyHoneyBaby Před 2 lety +1

    😱

  • @jacobstopper3804
    @jacobstopper3804 Před 2 lety +3

    First