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  • čas přidán 20. 03. 2024
  • Shannon Sharpe and Gilbert Arenas react to Allen Iverson clapping back at ESPN's Brian Windhorst claiming that the retired Philadelphia 76ers legend wouldn't be as effective in today's NBA. Unc and Gil debate the validity of Windhorst's claim and if it's a situation where we're all arguing just to argue.
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  • @justinmcclarthy6271
    @justinmcclarthy6271 Před 2 měsíci +347

    He’d be tearing through the defense just like De’Aaron Fox.

    • @youreokayboah2128
      @youreokayboah2128 Před 2 měsíci +8

      @@mk6mike1.86
      Facts

    • @richardnyahoe8172
      @richardnyahoe8172 Před 2 měsíci +11

      But quicker

    • @devo9167
      @devo9167 Před 2 měsíci +29

      ​@@richardnyahoe8172 AI is not quicker than D Fox. He probably has better handles but he's not quicker.

    • @bjrnthebootybandit
      @bjrnthebootybandit Před 2 měsíci +2

      ​@richardnyahoe8172 who said he's quicker? He was a quarter back not WR. Why can't Fox be faster?

    • @paquinraino8180
      @paquinraino8180 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@mk6mike1.86 Nah but 28 ppg on better efficiency and more assists since in today's game their are more pass than in the heavy iso era of the 00's

  • @user-lt1fx2he5s
    @user-lt1fx2he5s Před 2 měsíci +283

    The disrespect to AI who averaged 33ppg during hand checking era

    • @jmar5127
      @jmar5127 Před 2 měsíci +8

      A.i. is my fav player of all time. I'm also a sixers fan since 87 but he's Not avg 43 a game. Do u realize how much more it is to go from 33 to 43. He's avg around 35 to 36 on a bad team shooting 25 shots a game and around 30 and more efficient on a contender because they'll have other scoring options. Use logic instead of feelings. Lastly he's slight and short which makes it harder to score.

    • @deon3133
      @deon3133 Před 2 měsíci +6

      He averaged 33 after they changed the rule to stop hand checking

    • @redhunnid5142
      @redhunnid5142 Před 2 měsíci +8

      @@jmar5127He’s definitely averaging more now then he was then though that’s a FACT!!!!

    • @yuhbtw
      @yuhbtw Před 2 měsíci +4

      @@deon3133ok but he averaged 31 ppg twice with hand checking

    • @deon3133
      @deon3133 Před 2 měsíci +7

      @@yuhbtw and he shot 25 and 27 shots a game when he average 31 points lol

  • @user-lt1fx2he5s
    @user-lt1fx2he5s Před 2 měsíci +58

    “Great players find a way to be great no matter what the era is they’re going to adapt”

    • @Anthony-yd2we
      @Anthony-yd2we Před 2 měsíci

      Difference AI couldn’t shoot the 3.

  • @Mr.Oct___
    @Mr.Oct___ Před 2 měsíci +28

    The disrespect on Marbury's name is crazy. Steph was a point-god. 6'2 w/ speed, power, bounce, crazy vision, handle, jumper. Steph was the perfect pg offensively. His attitude got him twisted up. Leaving KG in Minnesota was hurt his NBA career. They were a dynamic duo.

  • @tonyochiha9798
    @tonyochiha9798 Před 2 měsíci +87

    Stephen Marbury, if he stopped playing hoops after the NBA wouldn't be a HOFer, but he went to China and blew up, winning championships and becoming a big celebrity over there making him a pro basketball HOFer because of his international exposure and feats. The HOF isn't JUST the NBA HOF, it's the basketball HOF.

    • @certifiedchaos4643
      @certifiedchaos4643 Před 2 měsíci +3

      🚨🚨🚨 Yeap it’s an overall things base off his fiba play and international he’s in there hopefully

    • @ediddy2497
      @ediddy2497 Před 2 měsíci +5

      He should be. Don’t remember him getting into anything in China just balling out. He even got a statue.

    • @Earl_TheSquirrel
      @Earl_TheSquirrel Před 2 měsíci +6

      He was not a damn Hall of Famer.

    • @marckusduverger9776
      @marckusduverger9776 Před 2 měsíci +4

      @Earl_TheSquirrel: Marbury could be a Hall of Famer because it’s not the NBA Hall of Fame but the Basketball Hall of Fame & what he’s done in China, he’s beloved over there & helped to grow the game in China. You count his whole career & I can definitely see him getting into the Hall of Fame at some point

    • @yahmoms8022
      @yahmoms8022 Před 2 měsíci +6

      Stop the bullshit!!!! Marbury didn't do a damn thing in the league...nba stats and accomplishments don't add up. What you did in another country means NOTHING to the American basketball HOF.... there aren't any HOFers from China, Japan, India, Europe, Mexico, etc who hasn't had a legendary career in the NBA. Stop the BS!!! IT'S NOT A PARTICIPATION AWARD.

  • @brohighwayman9576
    @brohighwayman9576 Před 2 měsíci +213

    how does over weight person who never played has credit to give such an opinion.

    • @bambam6537
      @bambam6537 Před 2 měsíci +25

      I ABSOLUTELY!!!!! AGREE!!!!

    • @user-lt1fx2he5s
      @user-lt1fx2he5s Před 2 měsíci +21

      Exactly how you gone give an opinion on a sport you never even played?

    • @braydennray
      @braydennray Před 2 měsíci +42

      Ad hominem logical fallacy- Attacking the speaker rather than the viewpoint they hold

    • @stuartperry8141
      @stuartperry8141 Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@user-lt1fx2he5s Ability to play has to do with skill or understanding of the game.

    • @lonedolo644
      @lonedolo644 Před 2 měsíci

      @@braydennrayBam

  • @deborahbrown1753
    @deborahbrown1753 Před 2 měsíci +69

    AI will always be 1of the greatest NBA players and trend setter during his time and now

    • @metalsquirrelgamer
      @metalsquirrelgamer Před 2 měsíci

      Then why wont ppl just say thats the reason he is in the hall of fame. Its more for the culture than his game. No disrespect to his game.

  • @grippnault
    @grippnault Před 2 měsíci +11

    Cheryl Miller has Zero pts, assts, rbs, in the NBA but was inducted into the Hall of Fame because her impact on the game of basketball was so tremendous. Marbury came from the streets of New City to shine at Georgia Tech, then to the NBA where he was an elite PG and then made the same impact on the other side of the globe where he solidified himself as a global force in the game of basketball. He earned his way into the NBA carrying the hopes of his entire family, embracing the responsibility to have his families name on the back of an NBA jersey. How does a man whose had that much impact on a game on every level, on two separate continents, not be considered and inducted into the games Hall of Fame?
    To add to this conversation, I strongly believe that the Fab 5 should be inducted. The impact those 5 kids (at the time) had on an entire nation, the kids in the communities across the nation is Hall of Fame worthy. There period should be enshrined and eternally celebrated. What they brought to the game will never be duplicated.

  • @xavierboom9689
    @xavierboom9689 Před 2 měsíci +75

    It's not the NBA Hall of Fame. It is the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame. There are people in the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame that have never played one second in the NBA.

    • @user-lt1fx2he5s
      @user-lt1fx2he5s Před 2 měsíci +2

      Now players and coaches I understand

    • @xavierboom9689
      @xavierboom9689 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@user-lt1fx2he5s players & coaches (men & women) college level, pro level, Olympic level.

    • @theHobbyBoy
      @theHobbyBoy Před 2 měsíci +13

      @@user-lt1fx2he5s there's nothing to understand. It's NAISMITH not NBA. It means basketball in general. Women's, College and professional

    • @priestyoungblood4262
      @priestyoungblood4262 Před 2 měsíci +3

      🎯

    • @will2358
      @will2358 Před 2 měsíci +1

      But important to say it’s divided into brackets for each accomplishment so there NCAAM/W then NBA, WNBA..the accomplishment for work off the court has a branch but every sports hall of fame has that too

  • @michaelwalker7872
    @michaelwalker7872 Před 2 měsíci +120

    A.I got new corporate money comin in. Dont have time for another man's opinion

  • @tae5257
    @tae5257 Před 2 měsíci +85

    That’s a horrible take by windy A.i averaged 33 points at 6’0 tall in a nba that was physical

    • @darnellwilliams8783
      @darnellwilliams8783 Před 2 měsíci +7

      @tae5257 and if Iverson played today He would be going to the free throw line

    • @paquinraino8180
      @paquinraino8180 Před 2 měsíci +4

      @@darnellwilliams8783 AI had 11,5 FTs at his peak which is the same as Embiid or Harden in their peak. So technically he would be about the same since this is the era with the less FTA ever. But he would be more efficient with the evolution of the game and have more assists if he want to win, since he would have way better role player than in the early 00's

    • @yahuahforever3169
      @yahuahforever3169 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Agreed

    • @MaximusR93
      @MaximusR93 Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@paquinraino8180well he earned them with attacking the physical defenses, I think he wouldn’t have had to work as hard to get them nowadays, so maybe his body doesn’t break down as fast as it did when he played. Also, imagine AI with the “gather step” lol

    • @paquinraino8180
      @paquinraino8180 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@MaximusR93 The gather step already existed but players didn't implement them in their craft. Now the thing is that team would force AI to become a passer, hence why scoring 35 ppg would be stupid on bad eff, if he. can just pass to his now better teammates

  • @JPK169
    @JPK169 Před 2 měsíci +84

    Brian widehorse wouldn’t be good in any era including the 1930s and the nba wasn’t even around then

    • @MrKeysjimmy
      @MrKeysjimmy Před 2 měsíci +5

      At what he does?? Nah he's very good at his job..

    • @GEAN918
      @GEAN918 Před 2 měsíci +20

      he's good at being a Lebron stalker & obese@@MrKeysjimmy

    • @AEdavirgin
      @AEdavirgin Před 2 měsíci +7

      ​@@MrKeysjimmy eating isn't a job.

    • @MrKeysjimmy
      @MrKeysjimmy Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@GEAN918 um ok then

    • @Ihiymeh
      @Ihiymeh Před 2 měsíci +6

      Yall hating is weird after AI didn't even hate lol.

  • @donaldmaddox9749
    @donaldmaddox9749 Před 2 měsíci +14

    The HOF argument ... For Football, it is the Pro Football HOF. They have separate for college. For Basketball, it is the Basketball HOF. That is why they consider all levels for B-Ball. You have HOF college coaches like Coach K and Roy Williams, who never coached pro ball.

    • @user-lt1fx2he5s
      @user-lt1fx2he5s Před 2 měsíci

      But they were apart of the team meaning they were the head coaches

  • @Nolimitcrew225
    @Nolimitcrew225 Před 2 měsíci +35

    During A.I era teams were averaging 97pts per game.
    Today teams average 114pts/game…
    With this free flowing game you can go ahead and add 5-6pts and a couple more assists on average to his stats. And he’d be shooting at a way higher %.

    • @KillenEMsoftly
      @KillenEMsoftly Před 2 měsíci +9

      not to mention the added spacing from shooters. pass the crackpipe brian

    • @paquinraino8180
      @paquinraino8180 Před 2 měsíci +4

      He would be more efficient with the evolution of the game and have more assists if he want to win, since he would have way better role player than in the early 00's. But adding 5-6 pts is ridiculous since nobody in the league take as many shots as prime AI. No coaches in their right mind would let AI take 33 FGA when he can play more team basketball and be a 28ppg on 46% with 10 assists on a winning team

    • @andyheath5244
      @andyheath5244 Před 2 měsíci +1

      And they can’t callin his crossover a carry lol

    • @thewatcher819
      @thewatcher819 Před 2 měsíci

      And all the extra step variations on the gather, not to metion the euro with his speed and small size.😮

    • @Nolimitcrew225
      @Nolimitcrew225 Před 2 měsíci +4

      @@paquinraino8180 He wouldn’t need 30 plus shots per game because of the pace and space. Having those shooters in both corners, a shooting power forward and every team playing like the Steve Nash phoenix suns changes everything.
      If Brunson can average d@mn near 30, Imagine what A.I can do.

  • @Xtremeproducts
    @Xtremeproducts Před 2 měsíci +3

    The Answer is the Answer and would be have the Answer for any team in any Era

  • @Rainmanking
    @Rainmanking Před 2 měsíci +54

    That Starbury HOF discussion was funny. Gil just shows why maybe players shouldn’t be the ones who say who goes in or not.

    • @d.omoneychaser5112
      @d.omoneychaser5112 Před 2 měsíci

      I agrre Lol😂

    • @_Michael.Knight
      @_Michael.Knight Před 2 měsíci +14

      Go do your research on Starbury

    • @SaintLaurentWan
      @SaintLaurentWan Před 2 měsíci +17

      @@_Michael.Knightthey don’t know how he got blacked ball out the league and became a Chinese basketball league legend .. its call the basketball hall of fame not the nba hall of fame

    • @SolaceMcfly
      @SolaceMcfly Před 2 měsíci +9

      nah it further proves people why people like you don't need a say in anything basketball. its the Basketball HOF not NBA hall of fame.

    • @_Michael.Knight
      @_Michael.Knight Před 2 měsíci +11

      @@SaintLaurentWan You spitting straight facts.. One of the coldest dudes to pick up a basketball.. He def should be in the HOF frm his impact on basketball alone

  • @sisqo4872
    @sisqo4872 Před 2 měsíci +55

    Brian act like players can’t work on their game in the off season like giannis or brook Lopez who learned to shoot the 3 to extend his career

    • @MrKeysjimmy
      @MrKeysjimmy Před 2 měsíci +2

      his career is over and he did work on his game,and his stats are his stats...

    • @darnellwilliams8783
      @darnellwilliams8783 Před 2 měsíci

      @sisqo4872 that's nasty comparing Giannis to Allen Iverson. When Giannis has zero skill

    • @joeedirttt93
      @joeedirttt93 Před 2 měsíci +7

      you really tried to slide Giannis in there 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @sisqo4872
      @sisqo4872 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@darnellwilliams8783 the point is someone can improve on something they been bad at. So you telling me you thought giannis was a MVP type player when he came into the league? Thought so

    • @metorphoric
      @metorphoric Před 2 měsíci

      @@darnellwilliams8783LOL. Found James Harden burner account 😮‍💨🤣

  • @alvinrichmond305
    @alvinrichmond305 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Brian is an example of analytics gone wild. A.I. is an all time great who would do it in any era.

  • @tdk2343
    @tdk2343 Před 2 měsíci +12

    Remember its the Naismith Basketball Hall of Fame, not the NBA Hall of Fame.

  • @homeboy7753
    @homeboy7753 Před 2 měsíci +10

    He never said ai wouldn’t be good in this era he said ai wouldn’t average 43 points a game

    • @chuckgamble5696
      @chuckgamble5696 Před 2 měsíci

      Right...like come on. We fantasy past players and just assume they'd be this or that today. A.I. was GREAT but he's not AVERAGING 43.

  • @boigenius1542
    @boigenius1542 Před 2 měsíci +2

    People forget what kind of a freak athlete Iverson was. Dude was the best high school football player AND basketball player in the country, and he made it to the Hall of Fame playing the sport he was SECOND BEST at! And if we being honest, AI played hard but he half-assed his career and still won a bunch of scoring titles and made it to the HOF. It's silly to say he couldn't average 40 in an era that can't keep anyone out the paint.

  • @SantiagoConcepcion-ey1ry
    @SantiagoConcepcion-ey1ry Před 2 měsíci +3

    Stephon averaged 19.3 ppg, 7.6 apg, and 1.2 spg during his NBA career. Easily should be in the hall of fame the man had I think around 8 consecutive seasons averaging 19-20ppg and 7-9 apg

  • @THE_BEAR_JEW
    @THE_BEAR_JEW Před 2 měsíci +20

    I just read what Windhorst said. It makes sense to say AI lacked efficiency and probably would be criticized more for his style of play today. That said, I'm sure AI would do very well in this era. If you were ever MVP, you're gonna do well in any era tbh.

    • @adgee5401
      @adgee5401 Před 2 měsíci +6

      The stat nerds turned the game into the efficiency nonsense. Get buckets. Get stops. All that matters

    • @KillaKam219
      @KillaKam219 Před 2 měsíci +2

      ​@@adgee5401I'm the same way, I ain't going off stats. It's all eye test

    • @hammurabii.3173
      @hammurabii.3173 Před 2 měsíci +5

      @@adgee5401 You trying to win or not? If yes efficiency plays an enormous part in that. If its just hoops yeah sure take 30-35 shots a game but don't expect to win shit.

    • @adgee5401
      @adgee5401 Před 2 měsíci

      @@hammurabii.3173 Nah man. It really doesn’t. Efficiency turns into how it looks versus simply getting the job done.

    • @deebsbeebs
      @deebsbeebs Před 2 měsíci

      I agree with both of you. Efficiency definitely helps with winning. But it doesn’t tell the whole story in terms of impacting the game. AI was all heart man but he would have to learn to be more efficient in todays game thats a fact

  • @anthonyjohnsonjr8865
    @anthonyjohnsonjr8865 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Marberry came in.. in a historic draft. The league was stacked all teams were solid. And he scores 16000 points. could have teamed up on an already winning team got a chip. He took his game to another country made it his own left some really big shoes to fill. He elevated the game of basketball 🏀 arguably more that anyone else

  • @SmartDave60
    @SmartDave60 Před 2 měsíci +9

    Isaiah Thomas’ argument crystallizes why we need a pure NBA HOF.

    • @joshido7352
      @joshido7352 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Marbury still shouldn’t be in the HOF if it was based on NBA. Not while Kevin Johnson and many other quality PGS with more success than starburry out the HOF right now.

    • @SmartDave60
      @SmartDave60 Před 2 měsíci

      @@joshido7352 that’s my point.
      When we count international and college play it waters everything down and you can make a credible argument for anyone.

    • @StandingFirmAlways
      @StandingFirmAlways Před 2 měsíci +1

      ​@@SmartDave60It's the Naismith BASKETBALL Hall of Fame, not NBA.🤷🏽‍♂️

    • @SmartDave60
      @SmartDave60 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@StandingFirmAlways yes and like MLB and NFL we need to have also a pure NBA HOF; in addition to an everything basketball HOF.

    • @StandingFirmAlways
      @StandingFirmAlways Před 2 měsíci

      @@SmartDave60 Agreed

  • @QUEENSBRIDGE_10TH_ST231
    @QUEENSBRIDGE_10TH_ST231 Před 2 měsíci +3

    If you have to ask yourself if someone belongs in the HOF then they don't belong there.

  • @bryton_hawthorne
    @bryton_hawthorne Před 2 měsíci +12

    there is no hand checking anymore. Iverson would fly past the typical modern day guards easily

    • @yahuahforever3169
      @yahuahforever3169 Před 2 měsíci

      Facts

    • @sams2021_3
      @sams2021_3 Před 2 měsíci

      There's also travelling

    • @Shaq610
      @Shaq610 Před 2 měsíci

      its over after half a step they don't understand

    • @JimmyEmoz
      @JimmyEmoz Před 2 měsíci

      Hand checking will stop not skilled players only

  • @Chriswilson-vg6vp
    @Chriswilson-vg6vp Před 2 měsíci +2

    He just said he wouldn’t avg 45 I agree he would have to play a lot of defense in todays game which will take away from his offense he can’t rest on defense like he did in his era where it was a lot of big men dominating the offense inside out

  • @HakeemTheDream616
    @HakeemTheDream616 Před 2 měsíci +6

    A.I. would destroy defenses in this soft era, and they'd surround him with 3 point shooters lol

    • @unc54
      @unc54 Před 2 měsíci

      If they surrounded him with 3 point shooters his PPG would go down.

    • @jmar5127
      @jmar5127 Před 2 měsíci +1

      ​@@unc54 u literally best me to it and A.I. us my fav player all time. He's not avg 43 a damn game. Also for the guy who called this Era soft 70s and 80s guys called the 90s soft.. when will yall learn all this talk is ridiculous. If u love the game u love the game for what every era represented.

  • @ImportAl
    @ImportAl Před 2 měsíci +9

    Jason Williams flamed big boy, Jabba the Windhorst talkin sideways outta that neck

  • @malcolms3220
    @malcolms3220 Před 2 měsíci +10

    AI will get his but the first time he goes 10/30 the commentators would be talking about him the way they do Westbrook

    • @kiannweikel2106
      @kiannweikel2106 Před 2 měsíci +1

      There’s a bunch of players that can’t really shoot

  • @zaddy714
    @zaddy714 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Saying that AI wouldn’t be good in modern day NBA doesn’t make sense at all. It would be such an easier game for him to play.

  • @cousinchris5851
    @cousinchris5851 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Marbury should absolutely be in the Chinese Basketball Hall of Fame

  • @zer999aa99
    @zer999aa99 Před 2 měsíci +26

    imagine saying a player couldnt realistically average 43 and your attacked for it lmao

    • @PayAttEx
      @PayAttEx Před 2 měsíci +10

      Yeah people are being extremely delusional on this. I loved AI growing up, but saying him or MJ would average 40+ today suggests the players in the League today can't do that when the NBA has never been more skilled than it is today.

    • @casiemny1219
      @casiemny1219 Před 2 měsíci

      I don’t think that’s part ppl
      really came at him for…

    • @dominicharris5489
      @dominicharris5489 Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@casiemny1219thats loads of benefit of doubt youre giving people lol.

    • @user-lt1fx2he5s
      @user-lt1fx2he5s Před 2 měsíci +5

      @@PayAttExWith the way they play defense in today’s NBA Jordan and AI would definitely average 40

    • @DreBeats_
      @DreBeats_ Před 2 měsíci +6

      @@PayAttExif luka is averaging 35 then mike and ai can definitely average 40 today

  • @jonathansturdivant3284
    @jonathansturdivant3284 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Lowkey yall might disagree with me on this but Gil and Ocho are kinda the same when it comes to critiquing current players…..the only difference is Gil is more articulate with making his points and he can give you filler bs knowledge to avoid giving a direct critique

  • @user-lt1fx2he5s
    @user-lt1fx2he5s Před 2 měsíci +5

    Imagine telling a former MVP, a player that led his team to the NBA Finals in 2002, averaged 33ppg as a scorer and is a HOFer that he couldn’t average 40 in today’s NBA 😂😂😂

    • @unc54
      @unc54 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Because no coach is going to let him play for 40+ minutes a game and let him just iso ball because it's not a winning strategy.
      If I had to guess he averages less but the efficiency is noticeably better

    • @user-lt1fx2he5s
      @user-lt1fx2he5s Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@unc54 That’s what majority of the teams in the NBA are doing except for the Warriors and Denver Nuggets

    • @unc54
      @unc54 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@user-lt1fx2he5s Nowhere close to that degree. The most MPG is DeRozan at 37.7 and the most FGA is Luka at 23.8.
      Unless Iverson suddenly becomes hyper efficient and gets to the FT line at an absurd rate, he's not hitting 40.

    • @therealgmoneyd
      @therealgmoneyd Před 2 měsíci +1

      Imagine feeling personally insulted and are acting like he called said player a bum

    • @Joshua-qc1li
      @Joshua-qc1li Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@unc54AI’s efficiency would go from 41% to 48-49%. Because the game is more open because of the 3 point shot. Bigs don’t clog up the lane preventing small players from getting advantages. Remember AI is 6’0 playing shooting guard, more space would allow him to shoot the midrange more efficiently

  • @car34bx
    @car34bx Před 2 měsíci +1

    1. His skill set would be better
    2. Easier defense and less true big men
    3. He has the exact same engine as Westbrook
    4. Jimmy Butler's out here Dragging teams to Finals but he doesn't think AI would as good??

  • @kingmemf4002
    @kingmemf4002 Před 2 měsíci

    😂😂😂 the pause when Gil was thinking about Marbury as SS changed the subject

  • @Progressivegenius
    @Progressivegenius Před 2 měsíci +2

    Some people rise to the occasion. Greatness is greatness

  • @chadpayne5371
    @chadpayne5371 Před 2 měsíci +6

    😂 These New cats are in the National Basketball 🏀 Association!! Allen Iverson Balled, and Hooped!! The end ✌🏾

  • @erogg1
    @erogg1 Před 2 měsíci +1

    The Pro Football Hall of Fame and Naismith Basketball Hall of Fame the difference of the hall of fames are literally defined by their names

  • @SuperJoobers
    @SuperJoobers Před 2 měsíci +1

    Yao Ming in the hall of fame for basically similar accomplishments as marbury.

  • @user-wo3kc3wc7d
    @user-wo3kc3wc7d Před 2 měsíci

    Hi Shannon and Chad, I miss watching you guy's so much. I pray continue success and continued blessings

  • @kxshgaming4773
    @kxshgaming4773 Před 2 měsíci +2

    The basketball hall of fame is so watered down HOLY

  • @Will_SmithJr
    @Will_SmithJr Před 2 měsíci +5

    Same thing with C-Webb. He was definitely a first ballot hall of famer.

  • @anthonyhicks6435
    @anthonyhicks6435 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Windhurst haven’t been right about anything basketball related in FOREVER 😂

  • @nyknicks627
    @nyknicks627 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Stephon Marbury also had a great career in china where he has a statue you have to include that because it’s called the Naismith basketball hall of fame not the nba so that includes everything and everywhere you played

  • @ChazW93
    @ChazW93 Před 2 měsíci

    correct. if there is no definite answer or solution, what is there to discuss?

  • @cmack17
    @cmack17 Před 2 měsíci +1

    You would have to assume Iverson would be taking the same type of shots.

  • @ogbean82
    @ogbean82 Před 2 měsíci +1

    AI would be the face of the game. Windy was in a bad mood because they only brought half the rack, not the whole rack of ribs that day.... 🤷‍♂️

  • @blakerichards4093
    @blakerichards4093 Před 2 měsíci +1

    It comes down to this if you have it in you, you have it in you. Doesn't matter the decade

  • @isaacsgeorge1775
    @isaacsgeorge1775 Před 2 měsíci +1

    A.I. would fit right in todays NBA.......Stephon Marbury is a future Hall of Famer.........Get this: He has a statue of him in China, but Yao Ming. Let that sink in. Facts.

  • @marrmarbinks
    @marrmarbinks Před 2 měsíci +1

    no coach would allow him to shoot as many shots he used to take he would be more efficient but average less

  • @UppurMGMT
    @UppurMGMT Před 2 měsíci

    Never question the answer!

  • @wilder17
    @wilder17 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Iverson’s athletic gifts and skill would absolutely translate to any era. The man could do things no other man could, that’s timeless

    • @RobertBallz
      @RobertBallz Před 2 měsíci +1

      When I watch Ja Morant it reminds me of Iverson.

  • @eastmade3
    @eastmade3 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Well it’s not the PRO basketball hall of fame it’s the Naismith BASKETBALL hall of fame

  • @bofuthereturn
    @bofuthereturn Před 2 měsíci +2

    It depends on how efficient he can be as a scorer and actually play team oriented basketball in this new era. If he barely shoots 40% and cant play winning basketball with another guy who can do his thing like he did with the sixers no one is going to make him the focal point of their offense. I do think he can play more efficiently in this era but i cant envision him being that efficient scoring 43 points per game because he has never been an efficient player and no team is gong to allow him to hog the ball and shoot like he did with the sixers

  • @darksideon
    @darksideon Před 2 měsíci +1

    Iverson put up numbers when they played defense, so what makes people think he couldn't do the same in the defenseless era?

    • @RobertBallz
      @RobertBallz Před 2 měsíci

      The one small point guard that was physical at the rim.

  • @petrickyoung3040
    @petrickyoung3040 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Iverson would be even better because the league plays less defense than the era that Iverson played

  • @Koma54077
    @Koma54077 Před 2 měsíci +1

    SGA averaging 30. AI averaging at least 35 in today's game.

  • @danieljacobs6921
    @danieljacobs6921 Před 2 měsíci +1

    If you look at his field goal percentage, it was pretty low. It’s not about the ability, it’s about the efficiency.

  • @christiaanjones1614
    @christiaanjones1614 Před 2 měsíci

    He would be unstoppable. He was from the relentless guard era where no one could stop him from getting to the basket. And he ain’t pulling up from 3, and there’s no big man clogging up the lane to help

  • @unc54
    @unc54 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Y'all hating Windy because he spoke the truth. It's not that Iverson wouldn't have the ability to average 40 but that it's impractical.

  • @stuartperry8141
    @stuartperry8141 Před 2 měsíci

    My problem with discussion of different eras is that they forget one important point, the ability of the player. If Bill Russell would play now we have to include his winning two championships in college and Olympic gold. Against the best players of his era these were his stats. So if he would to play today his stats should be among the best of the current players.

  • @mrman3523
    @mrman3523 Před 2 měsíci

    Gil tryna make a case for him to make the hall talking about marbury 😂

  • @user-hc2wr6vd2b
    @user-hc2wr6vd2b Před 2 měsíci +1

    Some players from back then wouldn't be as good but AI ain't one of them

  • @desiferguson4478
    @desiferguson4478 Před 2 měsíci

    The fact that Iverson’s peers came to his defense say it all…A.I at barely 6ft was in there with the trees scoring and was tough as hell…man dragged a team to the finals and it took two HOFers to deny him

  • @timeones
    @timeones Před 2 měsíci +1

    Marbury should not be in the Hof. The NBA is the easiest Hof to get into.

  • @salsatr33tv20
    @salsatr33tv20 Před 2 měsíci +1

    It's only 1 Allen Iverson. 🗣🎉🏅
    Edit: cmonnn na unk n gil NBA BALLERZ WAS A CLASSIC GAME 🎮 📺

  • @Jose_cab
    @Jose_cab Před 2 měsíci +2

    This is so stupid of Bryan to say when 2 seasons ago him and his coworkers were saying ja was about to take over the league!! Now ja and AI ain’t the same but ja is closer to AI then curry so I’ll just leave it at that!

    • @MrKeysjimmy
      @MrKeysjimmy Před 2 měsíci +1

      Is it though?? Firstly AI is the one that said he could average 43 in today's nba, windy said he wouldn't, and his style of play,ball dominant, low efficiency is not how teams play now within an offence
      ,and his defensive liabilities would be a problem in today's....they are all fair,and ja is small,but he's alot bigger than AI.

  • @TLR1988
    @TLR1988 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Marbury is definitely not a HOF the way y'all bash other players.

  • @theincrowd8299
    @theincrowd8299 Před 2 měsíci

    Marbury was a top 5 point guard in his era ! With kid , Nash , Francis , baron davis ! He was always up there

  • @nephalm5357
    @nephalm5357 Před 2 měsíci +1

    people are really dumb... Brian is 100% right. No one said Iverson wasnt great, he said he wouldnt avg 40 lol... and he WOULDN'T. Iverson is not a better scorer than Steph, Melo, Durant, Harden or Kobe... none of those guys sniffed 40, and they all played AFTER Iverson.
    The ppl coming to Iverson defense, are emotional or players that DIDNT play in todays era. The game is diff. Iverson would be forced to pass when he drives. He would have to play like Trae Young and other small guards play.
    He would avg 30, sure... but not 40... STOP IT

  • @MLG1K
    @MLG1K Před 2 měsíci +1

    Shannon :“ Stay me 7 zero “
    Melo : 🤔

  • @johnnormanjohnson2644
    @johnnormanjohnson2644 Před 2 měsíci

    UNC's facial reactions are priceless

  • @AJ-bi3pq
    @AJ-bi3pq Před 2 měsíci +1

    Marbury should not be on the Hall of Fame. Great player, loved watching him play, but he doesn't belong in the HOF. They be trying to put everyone in. 😅

  • @C.Riggs14
    @C.Riggs14 Před 2 měsíci

    In AI's era, there were guys on the floor specifically just to play defense, to get 6 fouls, to rough guys up or just to double team. Before today's era, it was more I'm gonna stop you from scoring mentality while today is more I'm gonna score on you mentality.

  • @klove5765
    @klove5765 Před 2 měsíci

    Not to mention he took the cross over to another level because he started jumping backwards away from the rim to various spots to get his jump shot off, not even Jordan or Kobe used

  • @al-bsure4284
    @al-bsure4284 Před měsícem +1

    AI would be a beast in todays NBA

  • @jeremieking7441
    @jeremieking7441 Před 2 měsíci +1

    So if Ai would average 43, what would players like Kobe, Shaq, TMAC average? 50, 55, 60 per game? Lol

  • @keithgardner7597
    @keithgardner7597 Před 2 měsíci

    I honestly do not know. This era of the NBA is weird. You would think with the scorers we have in the league, someone would have averaged 40 by now. KD, Steph, Luka, others. If Iverson had a team similar to the way his teams were built back in his era, possibly. The team he took to the finals were nothing but defenders for the most part. He was the #1, #2, and #3 option offensively for that team. The offensive skill level of these players today are at an all time high. To average 40, he would have to shoot every time he touches the ball because if he kicks it out to the shooters of today, they will knock it down.

  • @TheRecReport
    @TheRecReport Před 2 měsíci

    The basketball hall of fame is not just for pro/NBA basketball, its for all basketball.

  • @louisharrison6593
    @louisharrison6593 Před 2 měsíci

    I'm not understanding where Windhurst is coming from
    . They don't even play defense in this league today.. AI was one of the greatest scorers of his era, he would cook in this era for sure

  • @Ho11is2Ho11ywood
    @Ho11is2Ho11ywood Před 2 měsíci

    I agree with Zeke about Marbury. My pops and I just had this discussion. Other players are in the hall for what they did internationally l. Why not Steph? If you look at the numbers, he had a better career than Yao Ming and Sabonis. He was a beast in his prime in the NBA, a legend in China AND his philanthropy was legendary

  • @dsteele2332
    @dsteele2332 Před 2 měsíci

    This conversation about Marbury is why the bball is a joke lol

  • @friendswitdadealer
    @friendswitdadealer Před 2 měsíci

    How is this considered disrespect? Dude is a sports analyst and from his perspective he doesn’t think Iverson could avg that many points. Didn’t say he would be a bum, just not 43 a game.

  • @garlandbridges9504
    @garlandbridges9504 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Is he talking about the same Allen Iverson that was going to the hole against shaq.

  • @FBaned
    @FBaned Před 2 měsíci +5

    Starbury is HoFer.. it’s the the bball HoF not the Nba HoF.. Shannon asked the wrong question this isn’t NFL. Why he can’t be taken seriously as a bball analyst.

    • @graphitepoo
      @graphitepoo Před 2 měsíci

      The asian leauges aren’t even considered bc the level of competition is low.

  • @erikramirez4321
    @erikramirez4321 Před 2 měsíci +1

    IVE NEVER LIKED BRIAN WINDHORST. HOW IS HE VALID? HAS NO GAME!!

  • @Bigbizzle
    @Bigbizzle Před 2 měsíci

    Starbury also is considered the best PG to come out of NY. Hall of Fame is the totality of a players basketball career.

  • @Lola23339
    @Lola23339 Před 2 měsíci

    Iverson wasn't the easiest player to coach, especially in the early years of his career. "Practice?! We're talking about practice?! Not a game! Not a game! We're talking about practice!" But...AI was an athletic freak of nature, he had a good bball IQ and, most importantly, he was as mentally tough as players come. He worshiped MJ but he also had the balls to go at him with everything he had. Iverson would crush it in any era!

  • @uwantthemoneyorwhat
    @uwantthemoneyorwhat Před 2 měsíci

    Mannn these new guys "Outta Their Bonkers"!😅😂😂

  • @kcgetmoney
    @kcgetmoney Před 2 měsíci

    Before there was Kyrie Irving, there was A.I. What the heck is Frying Windhorst talking about???

  • @graphitepoo
    @graphitepoo Před 2 měsíci +1

    Bless Brian heart

  • @Nyjeezy
    @Nyjeezy Před 2 měsíci +1

    It’s ALWAYS disrespectful of the previous era with these people. But they always say on in today’s game MJ would just average 60 points a game. LIKE THATS NOT DISRESPECTFUL OF TODAYS PLAYERS. Gtfo with that weak ass double standard bullshit

  • @LLawliet04
    @LLawliet04 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I'm an A.I. fan but he won't average 43 lol. He would pretty much play and average the same since A.I. already plays like a modern player.

  • @frederickcorbin7113
    @frederickcorbin7113 Před 2 měsíci

    Oscar Schmidt of Brazil is in the Basketball Hall of Fame and never played one minute in the NBA. College, NBA, Olympics, International Leagues all count towards Hall of Fame consideration.

  • @jasonau427
    @jasonau427 Před 2 měsíci

    Iverson shot below league average in FG% in 12 of his 14 seasons.
    He shot below league average in 3PT% in every year he played.
    Hell of a player but he was a brick.

  • @markusstevensakabiginfinit9523

    Gil looks like on his pauses... hes thinking avout saucy santana lol

  • @revandrem
    @revandrem Před 2 měsíci

    It’s the Naismith Basketball Hall of Fame. Not the NBA HOF. If Yao can be in because of his impact on basketball, Marbury can too.