I recently discovered that using the Roger On in the car is a game changer. I was on a road trip with my two sons and sitting in the back seat. It’s almost impossible to hear in this situation because of the road noise and the fact they are facing forward. Not the case with Roger on set between them on the center console. I could hear both of them clearly and was able to join in on the conversation.
For me it would help a lot for meetings or restaurants or even check in for appointments. I do not hear the Speech with background sounds and most of the time I think it would help me a lot if they had a microphone right by them to pick up their speech and send it to my hearing aids and it helps to have more microphones and Amplification. Them having a microphone helps your hearing aids to pick up their speech and then I can amplify it but I need to be able to pick it up.
So yes this is good for everything and watching TV. I keep it on full volume but TV volume is not amplified a lot so having a microphone by it would pick it up better and Bluetooth hearing Aids. My hearing aids would be able to pick up a lot more sound that way.
And riding in a vehicle you are not able to hear people who are talking to you so I just let them talk but I am not Hearing anything but I think that a microphone would pick it up and amplify it more too.
I went to see Matthew Allsopp for a hearing test recently, which showed I had some hearing loss since my test last year. He tried to talk me into trying out the Phonak Roger On. I was sceptical, but I have now plugged it into my TV, and miraculously I can now hear what the actors are saying without Closed Captions. Also, I tried it out in an extremely noisy restaurant today. My luncheon date seated opposite me wore the Roger On around her neck, and I could hear everything she said - despite the background screams. What an invention, I shall stick with it.
Got the RogerOn iN with the Audeo Paradise hearing aids not long after they first came out; the Roger really helps in conferences, in restaurants, driving with people in the back seat (finally I can participate in conversations in the car). The pointer function works well, as does the table function with or without the app (yes, the app can be helpful), works with the bedroom tv (use the tv bluetooth on the family room tv)...it is very versatile. One thing to note, though, speech quality when using the RogerOn iN is quite harsh...almost like my old portable 3 transistor AM radio compared to my old FM boombox ... when you turn off the RogerOn, it's as if your hearing aids suddenly sound very rich. The tradeoff in harsh sound is being able to hear conversations in difficult situations. So overall it is a good device.
Hi, I have the Audeo Paradise P90 Rt. Did you have to have your audiologist turn on the receivers in you HA's or were they ready to go with the RogerOn iN mic. Thank you
I have been using the Roger on for many months and love it, especially in restaurants and environments with many people. Setting it in the middle of the table allows me to hear everyone sitting with me, as if I have no hearing issue. I also find the pointer very effective when standing in a group with dialog rotating from one person to another. I simply move the Roger On direction to capture whomever is speaking.
I guess I should be glad my hearing probably isn't bad enough to NEED a Roger On V2, though restaurants are a challenge. Running close to $2K, I can think of lots of other things I need to spend $2K on. The prices on these things just have got to come down! Accessories are just not reasonable. I am going to buy a TV connector, but even that is not reasonably priced. I know you said this takes the place of 5 devices, to bad it costs as much as 5 devices!
Thankyou for this youtube explanation of the Roger On V2. Three weeks ago I received my Roger on v2. This has made this Christmas one of my most enjoyable for many years I have been using hearing aids since lezng the military in 1978 without much success until I got phonak marvel around 2018 when I started wearing them every day. As you pointed out they were not helpful at restaurants and social gatherings. Everything you have mentioned above is true. One thing not above is my wife says I have stopped shouting at parties and in other noisy situations as with the Roger On I can hear the volume of my own voice and only speak loud enough to be heard.
Great explanation of exactly why I, too, love the new Roger On. One other feature enabled by my Advanced Bionics app: I can adjust the extent to which sound in any environment comes from my hearing instrument mics vs. the Roger. In a noisy environment, I elect almost 100% the Roger (when pointing at the person with whom I'm talking). In a quiet conference room, I'll elect a 50-50 balance to enable my own voice to sound natural.
Hi Matthew. This year was the first time I got a proper hearing aid. I have single side deafness, so I discussed with my audiologist about the posibility of using a standard hearing aid (the one I have right now is a Phonak Lumity) and a CROS hearing aid on the other "not working" ear. My audiologist recommended me using the Roger On instead of a CROS device solely for the versatility it provided and I can only say I'm really impressed with this tool and how far has technology come to help people with hearing loss. Now I think I don't use it as much as I could. When I'm in the house I mainly use it connected to the TV and also as a "glorified baby monitor" to be able to hear one of my senior relatives in other rooms so I can know theyŕe ok or if they need something. I've also used it in a couple of meetings and restaurants but I think I'm still learning how to properly use it in those situations. Overall, it's a very handy accesory and I can only be very excited for what the technology can achieve in the future.
Hey Juan! Thank you so much for taking the time out to comment with your experiences. It’s great to hear from other users. Keep watching this space for more tech updates, Matthew
I currently use the Roger Pen (the previous version). It's brilliant. In restaurants, it works so well in 1-2-1 situations. At work, I use pointing mode a lot. At home, it' given me TV back. Looking forward to getting an even better one. Great video- thanks Matthew.
18:10 7/4/23 - I am a Rodger On user, for two years now. Conversation in any environment with background noise is not possible, or at least pleasurable, without these. I have two. ….. I strongly disagree with the presenter that adjusting with a Smartphone APP is unnecessary. Adjustments, and I make two, minimizes background noises mixing with the wearer of the microphone. Unfortunately adjustments I make with the APP are dropped when I switch to another APP, such as a newspaper. So I must keep the Phonak APP open. Using two microphones presents another problem. If either microphone gets out of plumb it mutes. If the user doesn’t sit up straight, or leans back in a chair or is just to fat to maintain the microphone in a vertical position it mutes. …. These microphones are superb , making it possible for me to communicate in noise environments or to hear a fairly distant speaker.
Hey Lloyd, Thank you for watching and taking the time to feed back! It's great to hear some solid experiences from an existing Roger user shared with the world. I echo your thoughts from my patients too. Matthew
I find that using the SmartPhone APP is essential to my use of the Roger On in a noisy environment, the type where I meet most of my friends. Starbucks. I can cut down on the ambient sound. It requires much less effort to understand when I have done. The Roger On is much less useful to me if I can make adjustments with the APP. I think that this video plays down that feature with the statement that the hearing aid - microphone system can be stand alone.
Hi Matthew, Just want to say that I recently subscribed & started checking out your videos for hearing aid users. I currently use the ReSound TV Streamer 2 with my two ReSound Linx Quattro hearing aids, which turn them into wireless headphones (love being able to walk into another room & still clearly hear my TV shows - it's a Godsend). As my ReSound aids are over 4 yrs old, my audiologist ordered me new Phonak hearing aids (not sure which model yet, as I have a high freq hearing loss). She also ordered me the "Roger ON iN" (not sure if V2 - does the "iN" part determine if it's V2)? Because I've been using the ReSound TV streamer, she also ordered me a Phonak TV Connector.
My question is since I currently use the ReSound TV Streamer, I understand from your video that I can use the Roger On as a TV streamer. Would that replace the Phonak TV Connector? Would I really have a choice of devices to use for the TV? If so, which would you recommend for the best TV sound quality to my aids? Do you have a video/article out on the Roger On V2 being used as a TV streamer? Also, if the Roger On is used as a TV streamer, how does it connect to the TV? I don't see any cables included in the product list from Phonak's website. Would I need another go-between device to connect the Roger On V2 to be used as a TV streamer? If so, seems the Phonak TV connector would be the better choice to use since it's designed for that purpose. I am so looking forward to use the Roger ON mic at the table (home & restaurant) with my adult kids & friends. It's been so frustrating having to zone in on each person's conversation around the dinner table -- especially in a noisy restaurant like the Texas Roadhouse next to the bar. Or asking some of them to speak up & repeat themselves over & over again. And also just out grocery shopping, having to lean over as close as possible to the person behind the deli & meat counter when ordering food so I can catch what they're saying. Thanks for your time! Ron from Arizona
Hey Ron, thanks for taking the time to comment. Yes it comes with all the kit that you need to connect it to the TV so you should have no issues at all. I dont have a separate video on solely using it for the TV I'm afraid. You wont need both the TV connector and the Roger on V2, save yourself the money. I hope this helps, Matthew
When using the pointer mode in a loud environment, how far is it's range? Do you need to be in front of the person; close by? Or, can you point it to someone in a group of say, three people 10-15 ft(3-5 meters) away and pick up that particular voice well?
Direct Bluetooth connectivity doesn’t work with my work laptop. It’s a Thinkpad and I always get horrible connection/sound fluctuations with it. So I have to take the hearing aid out and put in normal headphones 😢
Could you talk about the Roger On In V2? I have Paradise Audeo P90 Rt and wanted to know if the receivers are set to got with the "IN" or if I need my audiologist to turn them on. Thank you
Curious how this new Roger On works with speech-to-text apps in both offline and online situations. I use now the Roger NeckLoop and Ava, this works well.
I was in a quiet large restaurant room with a group of 9 and we were the only customers. I put my Roger On in table mode, opened the app on my phone and tried to hear conversations near to me. I had a very difficult time even when using the app to focus on 1 or 2 speakers. Does the angle position of my iPhone and Roger On make a difference? I tried turning the On towards the speaker but left it flat on the table. Picking it up and pointing didn’t work well either. I’m not getting the best results from my Roger On! Should my hearing clinic be changing any settings on their computer? Or what is the best placement on the table?
Hi, is it good for high frequency loss? I have phonak partner when I turn it on I always make it -3 because somehow I feel like low frequency is taken from me on 0.
Wow, what an in-depth review! Your thorough explanation of the Phonak Roger On V2 is incredibly helpful. By the way, we sent you an email. We would love to connect and collaborate with you🙂.
As someone who will be obtaining Phonak Lumity hearing aids, why would a person needs to go out and spend more money on a accessory or accessories to help them hear? Then what is the point in my case of spending USD$6000.00 for two hearing aids, where the technology in the accessory device should be already built into the hearing aids? Honestly to me it is a scam with these accessories.
Just wanted to point out that there is simply no way of replicating a remote microphone with the microphones on board the hearing aids. Hearing aids do attempt to clean background noise, primarily by using directional microphones, but there are limitations to how effective this can be. Remote mics are far superior because they put the mic closer to the target voice and provide even better microphone technology than is possible in a device the size of a hearing aid. All this adds up to a much better signal to noise ratio. Do I think the accessories should be more affordable than they are? Of course! But, they are effective and definitely a necessity for anyone struggling to hear well with their (well-tuned) hearing aids.
@@davidobrienirl We asked a bunch of audiologists about their retail prices and got a range between $1200-1800 ... There's also the Roger iN issue, which we describe in detail here: www.hearingtracker.com/resources/roger-on-v2 Is it worth it? That all depends on how much it changes your life. Maybe try it and return it if it doesn't provide the ROI... To me it's like upgrading from a V4 to a V6. For some people, it means everything... for others, V4 is fine. -Abram
Which situation do you think it would be most helpful for you?
Restaurants
Meetings
One on Ones
On the Computer
Playing tennis
Watching TV
I recently discovered that using the Roger On in the car is a game changer. I was on a road trip with my two sons and sitting in the back seat. It’s almost impossible to hear in this situation because of the road noise and the fact they are facing forward. Not the case with Roger on set between them on the center console. I could hear both of them clearly and was able to join in on the conversation.
Definitely Restaurants.
For me it would help a lot for meetings or restaurants or even check in for appointments. I do not hear the Speech with background sounds and most of the time I think it would help me a lot if they had a microphone right by them to pick up their speech and send it to my hearing aids and it helps to have more microphones and Amplification. Them having a microphone helps your hearing aids to pick up their speech and then I can amplify it but I need to be able to pick it up.
So yes this is good for everything and watching TV. I keep it on full volume but TV volume is not amplified a lot so having a microphone by it would pick it up better and Bluetooth hearing Aids. My hearing aids would be able to pick up a lot more sound that way.
And riding in a vehicle you are not able to hear people who are talking to you so I just let them talk but I am not Hearing anything but I think that a microphone would pick it up and amplify it more too.
I went to see Matthew Allsopp for a hearing test recently, which showed I had some hearing loss since my test last year. He tried to talk me into trying out the Phonak Roger On. I was sceptical, but I have now plugged it into my TV, and miraculously I can now hear what the actors are saying without Closed Captions. Also, I tried it out in an extremely noisy restaurant today. My luncheon date seated opposite me wore the Roger On around her neck, and I could hear everything she said - despite the background screams. What an invention, I shall stick with it.
Got the RogerOn iN with the Audeo Paradise hearing aids not long after they first came out; the Roger really helps in conferences, in restaurants, driving with people in the back seat (finally I can participate in conversations in the car). The pointer function works well, as does the table function with or without the app (yes, the app can be helpful), works with the bedroom tv (use the tv bluetooth on the family room tv)...it is very versatile.
One thing to note, though, speech quality when using the RogerOn iN is quite harsh...almost like my old portable 3 transistor AM radio compared to my old FM boombox ... when you turn off the RogerOn, it's as if your hearing aids suddenly sound very rich. The tradeoff in harsh sound is being able to hear conversations in difficult situations. So overall it is a good device.
Hi, I have the Audeo Paradise P90 Rt. Did you have to have your audiologist turn on the receivers in you HA's or were they ready to go with the RogerOn iN mic. Thank you
@@ragilbert55 My audiologist set everything up for me.
Great to meet you today Matthew. Can’t wait to try the Roger On 2. Love new tech
Same here!
I have been using the Roger on for many months and love it, especially in restaurants and environments with many people. Setting it in the middle of the table allows me to hear everyone sitting with me, as if I have no hearing issue. I also find the pointer very effective when standing in a group with dialog rotating from one person to another. I simply move the Roger On direction to capture whomever is speaking.
Hey Motioner, I love hearing this feedback that's great. Thanks for watching, Matthew
I guess I should be glad my hearing probably isn't bad enough to NEED a Roger On V2, though restaurants are a challenge. Running close to $2K, I can think of lots of other things I need to spend $2K on. The prices on these things just have got to come down! Accessories are just not reasonable. I am going to buy a TV connector, but even that is not reasonably priced. I know you said this takes the place of 5 devices, to bad it costs as much as 5 devices!
Hey GBkworf, I agree that they are not cheap at all. I wish I had a cheaper alternative! Thank you as always for taking the time to feed-back! Matthew
Where I live in Budapest, 500 euro (about 550 dollar) the Roger On.
@@a.c.6937that must be the older model then
Thankyou for this youtube explanation of the Roger On V2. Three weeks ago I received my Roger on v2. This has made this Christmas one of my most enjoyable for many years I have been using hearing aids since lezng the military in 1978 without much success until I got phonak marvel around 2018 when I started wearing them every day. As you pointed out they were not helpful at restaurants and social gatherings. Everything you have mentioned above is true. One thing not above is my wife says I have stopped shouting at parties and in other noisy situations as with the Roger On I can hear the volume of my own voice and only speak loud enough to be heard.
Great explanation of exactly why I, too, love the new Roger On. One other feature enabled by my Advanced Bionics app: I can adjust the extent to which sound in any environment comes from my hearing instrument mics vs. the Roger. In a noisy environment, I elect almost 100% the Roger (when pointing at the person with whom I'm talking). In a quiet conference room, I'll elect a 50-50 balance to enable my own voice to sound natural.
Great tips! Thanks for sharing Dave I appreciate it. Matthew
Looking forward to mine arriving next week! Thanks for the helpful review
Thanks for the feedback Philip 😊 Matthew
Hi Matthew. This year was the first time I got a proper hearing aid. I have single side deafness, so I discussed with my audiologist about the posibility of using a standard hearing aid (the one I have right now is a Phonak Lumity) and a CROS hearing aid on the other "not working" ear. My audiologist recommended me using the Roger On instead of a CROS device solely for the versatility it provided and I can only say I'm really impressed with this tool and how far has technology come to help people with hearing loss.
Now I think I don't use it as much as I could. When I'm in the house I mainly use it connected to the TV and also as a "glorified baby monitor" to be able to hear one of my senior relatives in other rooms so I can know theyŕe ok or if they need something. I've also used it in a couple of meetings and restaurants but I think I'm still learning how to properly use it in those situations.
Overall, it's a very handy accesory and I can only be very excited for what the technology can achieve in the future.
Hey Juan! Thank you so much for taking the time out to comment with your experiences. It’s great to hear from other users.
Keep watching this space for more tech updates, Matthew
I currently use the Roger Pen (the previous version). It's brilliant. In restaurants, it works so well in 1-2-1 situations. At work, I use pointing mode a lot. At home, it' given me TV back.
Looking forward to getting an even better one.
Great video- thanks Matthew.
Hey Alan! Thank you for sharing your experience with the world. It’s always great coming from someone using the gear! Matthew
18:10 7/4/23 - I am a Rodger On user, for two years now. Conversation in any environment with background noise is not possible, or at least pleasurable, without these. I have two. ….. I strongly disagree with the presenter that adjusting with a Smartphone APP is unnecessary. Adjustments, and I make two, minimizes background noises mixing with the wearer of the microphone. Unfortunately adjustments I make with the APP are dropped when I switch to another APP, such as a newspaper. So I must keep the Phonak APP open. Using two microphones presents another problem. If either microphone gets out of plumb it mutes. If the user doesn’t sit up straight, or leans back in a chair or is just to fat to maintain the microphone in a vertical position it mutes. …. These microphones are superb , making it possible for me to communicate in noise environments or to hear a fairly distant speaker.
Hey Lloyd, Thank you for watching and taking the time to feed back! It's great to hear some solid experiences from an existing Roger user shared with the world. I echo your thoughts from my patients too. Matthew
Thank you Matthew. Very informative video.
Hey Watermain. I'm glad it was helpful! Thank you for taking the time to comment. Matthew
Thank you for this incredibly thorough review Matthew🙏🏻
My pleasure! Thanks for taking the time to comment. Matthew
just got my roger on v2 this morning so far I like it but I need a couple of weeks to make sure
Hey Mmarjisr, can’t wait to hear your feedback! Matthew
Fantastic informative clip, thank you.
Thanks Sharon 😊 Matthew
I find that using the SmartPhone APP is essential to my use of the Roger On in a noisy environment, the type where I meet most of my friends. Starbucks. I can cut down on the ambient sound. It requires much less effort to understand when I have done. The Roger On is much less useful to me if I can make adjustments with the APP. I think that this video plays down that feature with the statement that the hearing aid - microphone system can be stand alone.
Hi Matthew,
Just want to say that I recently subscribed & started checking out your videos for hearing aid users.
I currently use the ReSound TV Streamer 2 with my two ReSound Linx Quattro hearing aids, which turn them into wireless headphones (love being able to walk into another room & still clearly hear my TV shows - it's a Godsend). As my ReSound aids are over 4 yrs old, my audiologist ordered me new Phonak hearing aids (not sure which model yet, as I have a high freq hearing loss). She also ordered me the "Roger ON iN" (not sure if V2 - does the "iN" part determine if it's V2)? Because I've been using the ReSound TV streamer, she also ordered me a Phonak TV Connector.
My question is since I currently use the ReSound TV Streamer, I understand from your video that I can use the Roger On as a TV streamer. Would that replace the Phonak TV Connector? Would I really have a choice of devices to use for the TV? If so, which would you recommend for the best TV sound quality to my aids?
Do you have a video/article out on the Roger On V2 being used as a TV streamer? Also, if the Roger On is used as a TV streamer, how does it connect to the TV? I don't see any cables included in the product list from Phonak's website. Would I need another go-between device to connect the Roger On V2 to be used as a TV streamer? If so, seems the Phonak TV connector would be the better choice to use since it's designed for that purpose.
I am so looking forward to use the Roger ON mic at the table (home & restaurant) with my adult kids & friends. It's been so frustrating having to zone in on each person's conversation around the dinner table -- especially in a noisy restaurant like the Texas Roadhouse next to the bar. Or asking some of them to speak up & repeat themselves over & over again. And also just out grocery shopping, having to lean over as close as possible to the person behind the deli & meat counter when ordering food so I can catch what they're saying.
Thanks for your time!
Ron from Arizona
Hey Ron, thanks for taking the time to comment. Yes it comes with all the kit that you need to connect it to the TV so you should have no issues at all. I dont have a separate video on solely using it for the TV I'm afraid. You wont need both the TV connector and the Roger on V2, save yourself the money. I hope this helps, Matthew
When using the pointer mode in a loud environment, how far is it's range? Do you need to be in front of the person; close by? Or, can you point it to someone in a group of say, three people 10-15 ft(3-5 meters) away and pick up that particular voice well?
Hello Matthew
i have phonak lumity 70 hearing aids so should I buy roger on or Roger on in?
Direct Bluetooth connectivity doesn’t work with my work laptop. It’s a Thinkpad and I always get horrible connection/sound fluctuations with it. So I have to take the hearing aid out and put in normal headphones 😢
Hey TS, it may be worth getting an external bluetooth dongle... Or The Roger ON! Thanks for watching, Matthew
Could you talk about the Roger On In V2? I have Paradise Audeo P90 Rt and wanted to know if the receivers are set to got with the "IN" or if I need my audiologist to turn them on. Thank you
Curious how this new Roger On works with speech-to-text apps in both offline and online situations. I use now the Roger NeckLoop and Ava, this works well.
background noise overtakes person voice when pointing roger on v2
I was in a quiet large restaurant room with a group of 9 and we were the only customers. I put my Roger On in table mode, opened the app on my phone and tried to hear conversations near to me. I had a very difficult time even when using the app to focus on 1 or 2 speakers. Does the angle position of my iPhone and Roger On make a difference? I tried turning the On towards the speaker but left it flat on the table.
Picking it up and pointing didn’t work well either.
I’m not getting the best results from my Roger On! Should my hearing clinic be changing any settings on their computer? Or what is the best placement on the table?
The closer to those speaking the better, so don’t position it in the centre of the table, but the furthest point away from you. Matthew.
how much is it?
Hey Byu02, that depends where you're based. Check out pricing on hearingtacker.com, Matthew.
I wear Phonak Nadia P70_UP. Do they need a receiver for Roger ON ?
Approximately 1.680 EUR
Is the battery user replaceable? Or can it at least be changed out at the service center?
Great question. It needs to go back to Phonak. Matthew
Can a Roger On V1 be upgraded to a V2?
Does Roger On 2 work with cochlear implant
Hi, is it good for high frequency loss?
I have phonak partner when I turn it on I always make it -3 because somehow I feel like low frequency is taken from me on 0.
-3,0 I refer for the volume
As well I have a good low frequency, I only do have problem at high frequency
100% worth trying if you struggle in any of the environments that I covered in the vid! Matthew
Wow, what an in-depth review! Your thorough explanation of the Phonak Roger On V2 is incredibly helpful. By the way, we sent you an email. We would love to connect and collaborate with you🙂.
Awesome, thank you! Matthew
As someone who will be obtaining Phonak Lumity hearing aids, why would a person needs to go out and spend more money on a accessory or accessories to help them hear? Then what is the point in my case of spending USD$6000.00 for two hearing aids, where the technology in the accessory device should be already built into the hearing aids? Honestly to me it is a scam with these accessories.
Just wanted to point out that there is simply no way of replicating a remote microphone with the microphones on board the hearing aids. Hearing aids do attempt to clean background noise, primarily by using directional microphones, but there are limitations to how effective this can be. Remote mics are far superior because they put the mic closer to the target voice and provide even better microphone technology than is possible in a device the size of a hearing aid. All this adds up to a much better signal to noise ratio. Do I think the accessories should be more affordable than they are? Of course! But, they are effective and definitely a necessity for anyone struggling to hear well with their (well-tuned) hearing aids.
@@AbramBaileyPro Thank you. How much does this accessory cost? A ballpark number, and is it worth getting it?
@@davidobrienirl We asked a bunch of audiologists about their retail prices and got a range between $1200-1800 ... There's also the Roger iN issue, which we describe in detail here: www.hearingtracker.com/resources/roger-on-v2
Is it worth it? That all depends on how much it changes your life. Maybe try it and return it if it doesn't provide the ROI... To me it's like upgrading from a V4 to a V6. For some people, it means everything... for others, V4 is fine. -Abram
@@HearingTracker Thank you. 🙂
Great to meet you today Matthew. Can’t wait to try the Roger On 2. Love new tech
Hey Thereluja! It was great to meet you too. I’m looking forward to seeing why we can do to improve your hearing. Matthew