FED UP With The XR150L :(
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- čas přidán 10. 07. 2024
- I was really not happy with the oil consumption problem with the XR150L, despite people saying it was normal and to just keep dumping in oil every ride. So I decided to look into it further. Here's what I found.
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00:00 Intro
00:08 Background on the issue
00:52 Investigating the issue
01:36 The simple fix
02:00 Results after the fix - Auta a dopravní prostředky
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You should change the title to proclaim this fix to all XR150 owners. That's a really important mod to do if someone else owns this bike and has the same issue (which they probably do).
Agreed, this seems like a good fix to the issue. Especially if others have had the same problem
@@t3rm694where do you buy it tho
yeah made me check my oil level in the xr150 and was certainly too low. gonna show that to my mechanic. thanks for the vid!
same issue for me ... XR150 user here in the Philippines 🇵🇭 👋 ....
thanks for the tip 😁
I 100% agree, the title should be changed to reflect the good fix... I have a riding buddy that was looking for a good reason on his oil use, and stumbled across this randomly.. We would have found/fixed the issue much sooner if the title said "XR150L Oil Comsumption Fix" or something to that effect :) Either way though, GREAT video, and your out there hammering that 150L WAY faster than I have seen it done before! Keep it up!!!!
We have had this carburetor fed xr150 until 2008 here in Brazil. Ive implemented this hose loop suggestion in mine (2008) and can even point out another advantage: after hours of travelling in heavy rain, water gets into the airbox and from there into the engine, but this loop prevents it from happening.
Well done finding such a simple solution.
It's so weird I bought mine brand new and havent had any issues. Oil stays exactly at the same level. What a strange issue, but it's good to know just incase anyone else runs into the same problem.
EXCELLENT bike mechanic troubleshooting skillz!!!!! You've discovered a truly golden piece of advice to every XR150 owner: "Do the TTM oil breather mod."
Brother the breather tube hose is set up almost the same on every zongshein Honda clone I’ve seen. All those “enduros” with the cb or cg clone motors out there. I’ve had people bring their bikes to me struggling to start because their air boxes are full of oil 🤦♂️oh well. It’s always an easy enough fix. I’m glad you got it sorted out. Keep up the good work Gabe. The new XR content is awesome. I’m about to grab me one up and hit the TaT like I did my Hawk.
In Brazil this bike has been sold for a long time, it's called Bros 125/150, we took the old ones and rode the enduro, we put the fairings and seat from the CRF 230, it's basically the same frame, and we have a lot of kits for the engine, mine It has a 70mm kit with camshaft and slightly worked head ducts, it's already a lot of fun, it has around 220cc, now I'm looking to put 21 and 18 rims... just the basics... but it's very common to see these bikes with forks from other motorcycles (XRE 300) and monoshock (Falcon 400) to have more suspension travel... it's the best value for money here...
Americans tend to think anything less than 600c is worthless. Im looking at a big bore kit myself.
Man I NEED to see more riding vids from you on this bike! Makes me so hyped
Thanks for riding bikes like this. Please let us see some engine mods on this kinds of bikes. Watching from the Philippines
Nicely done! Such a simple solution too. I'm glad you were able to get the issue sorted out! 👌
Nice work man! I love the explanation about having been around bikes long enough to know a thing or two about what's normal lol
Good work buddy! I just put a down payment on my own xr today, so this is very useful for me..👍🏽
Can't wait to see a full review on it (if you do one). We've got to get some raw footage of you riding this thing.
You got me thinking now about all my vehicles breather hoses. 😂 good job!
Just picked up a used xr150 with 400 miles. Heading out to the shop to do this mod right now before i put another mile on it! Thanks for the heads up about the issue!
Awesome content!
Thanks for sharing that mod!
Honda owes you big time!
Hey Gabe. Glad you were able to fix the issue and now you can enjoy the motorcycle as it should be.
Would love to see you do a splitscreen comparison of lap times between this bike and any of the other ones you previously tested, just for the lolz. I have a XTZ 125 (Yamaha´s answer to the XR150L) and been thinking of modifying it for offroad/enduro lately, but stock suspension is just awful haha.
Maybe just a RAW video shredding
Excellent fix. I love learning stuff.. Thank you..
I have 2,000 miles on mine and have had to add oil. Thanks for this tip!
genius!!!! I remember I used to ride a 1980 xl125s, modified by myself way back when youtube wasn't a thing. Oil breather goes up, DIY air box, DIY cdi and random parts from xl/xr engines.... Then I quit when I have to spend on diapers and cerelacs....
Good work man. Seems like a must do for new owners.
Gidday, some great content. Can you list the parts you used for this fix? In some remote places in Asia its harder to get general items, so knowing the list of parts would be really helpful. Thanks
I used a single 2 ft length of hose that was 1/2 in inner diameter. You will need a ring clamp on the engine side because it's actually slightly smaller in diameter. I reused the clamp on the airbox side. You end up with a long loop that goes high. So far, so good, no leaks and no oil use.
DR 650 breather is run the way you have it. But even higher up. Good spotting.
Wow. who knew that the breather hose pattern was the issue. I admit I also did say that the oil reducing issue is normal for this bike. Thanks for this.
Awesome! Glad it was something simple. There’s a mod similar for a lot of bikes, unfortunately for me it doesn’t work on the klr650 lol. Love your content man. Haven’t seen it in a while so I’ll have to go back and binge watch.
Thanks. I'm having a similar issue on a much more high performance bike--and wouldn't you know, the breather hose is basically a horizontal piece from the case back to the air box.
Would you be willing to post a tutorial on how you routed your tubes to help any of the owners who want to make the same fix?
You nailed it! And of course a new bike shall now use so much oil. Hopefully, Honda sees this somehow and sends you a little gift 🎁
You should do a challenge like. $1000 dollar budget bike and do a race on it or something like that. You hands down have the best reviews out there no bs
He has done so twice the 500 dollar super pooper and the dr200 enduro race
I watched the last one and actually thought about it a couple days ago. I am very interested!
Well I guess I need to do this now. I love my XR. Thank you!
great ...Thanks for the solution 😊❤❤
My XR150L had the same issue hella oil my bike drinks but I did this exact mod just how you had it in the photo and 0 oil consumption issues.
that's awesome dude. you would think Honda would have this very simple concept worked out
My new XR150 has about 2,500 mile and I ride it hard. My bike does really consume much oil at all thankfully. I'm using the stock Honda oil. I hope it continues to stay maintenance free for the most part because It's a lot of fun!
Bruce willis on a dirtbike!!!! Awesome finding such a simple fix, most would of overlooked it
I owned one of these in The Philippines a few years ago. The first thing that is necessary is to put a larger main jet in carby. I found the motor running way too lean as stock, causing the bike to run quite hot. Also the best mod I did was put a larger sprocket on the rear........... this was a massive difference and immediately felt great.
I own one in the Philippines now. I did the very popular mod of swapping in the PZ27 carb ($7) from the TMX155. No more cold start issues. I swapped the fuel screw for one that requires no tools. It took some fiddling and testing to get the smooth throttle response back. I kept a close eye on the plug to verify if it was ric/lean/normal. I run Petron 20/50 4T oil for the hot climate here.
@@telcobilly I did the VERY popular mod of changing my underpants this morning. It ensures That I dont BS too much on youtube.
@@jimw7916 lol
Great informational video, thanks !
Why so many connections/couplings ? Is there some kind of ball value inline ?
So cool ! How is the small front wheel working out ?
And that... (dramatic pause)
takes care of that. 🏁🏁🤘🤘
that intro looked like a commercial for the xr150l lmao. good stuff.
Honda just doesn’t produce the same quality than 20 years ago. Sometimes they make stupid mistakes like this. Well done finding and fixing it, congrats man!
The best fix is the breather delete kit from taco moto combined with the uni filter from Rottweiler. You can run the silicone tube up above the engine toward the front of the bike and there’s a pocket in between the tank and frame that fits the filter perfectly. Running crankcase breathers into the air box vents dirty and hot air into the engine, it’s not good for it.
Also changing the jetting will help. Running in a lean condition can and will burn oil faster.
Thank you for this. mega like and deff subbed
Awesome video, thorough investigation, good work as always Gabe.
great point
Thanks!
Much appreciated, brap on!
Genius! You did what Honda shamefully missed! Maybe they didn't want to cannibalize their more expensive dual sports!! So much for Honda legendary quality!
It's not just this bike they messed up. The pioneer 700 side by side has a horrendous breather pipe setup. The pipe just rests against the side of the air filter, and is angled down slightly towards the engine, so any dirt that accumulates on the air filter, just enters the pipe & rolls down it into the engine. So many of them have been dusted.
Wheres you get the part at???
Time to form up an aftermarket breather kit and start selling them!
Good catch! Now as far as the recommended intervals, I'm quite certain your usage qualifies as 'severe' so let's just go ahead and cut those intervals in half. Which makes it even less likely to need topping off! #silverlinings
Yeah I might just get my dream bike, DR650 before this one.
Classic XR. Basically every XR every made needs a longer crankcase breather hose if you bring the front wheel up. That goes for the XR 100 all the way to the XR650R. I guess Honda still hasn't learned after over 35 years.
XR400 next 😍
We need more updates on the xr150l
Awesome! I do have a considerable amount of oil getting lost through the breather on my XR650L. I have done various performance mods and run it on the freeway daily about 65mph for 35 miles each direction of commute. Engine revs are not bad with my highway sprocket setup of 15x42. I need to add abuot a quart every 300 miles which is aweful.
Big thumper problems
Hate to say it, but it's most likely rings. I had the same problem on mine and desperately wanted it to be something else. Once I took apart the top end it was painfully obvious. Make sure you have the factory catch can installed. If you do, and there are no blockages in the lines, you definitely have worn rings and/or a worn cylinder. The previous owner of my bike ran it with a gaping hole in the airbox past the air filter. I got tired of adding oil all the time and the occasional embarrassing puff of smoke on decel. All in all, I had about $1000 in parts once everything was finished.
Very well could be, no catch can installed currently but extra long tube going from breather to airbox. Also plenty of power and no smoke while riding or startup. Currently about 25K miles on current piston % rings, changed them first time at 25K miles going for a rebuild at 50K miles. Someone mentinoed that the bike has a tight ring tollerence to begin with causing issue when the bike runs hot scratching up the cylinder and causing oil blow by. Idk maybe need to figure out a good oil to run for highway. I use 10w40 with lucas oil stabil, thinking of using 20w50@@krp-xe3hw
Interesting. My 150 used to always burn oil, I changed the rings once and only help for a couple of weeks, now I got a 220 big bore kit and so far it's been half a year since and hasn't burned any oil.
Just got this issue with mine, its been sitting a bit and noticed oil dripping from air box drain, gonna take to honda to have them do this as im not too mechanically inclined
Oil Issues..... you said it might just be a short hose & you fixed it w/ a longer hose. I think you called it right in being a freak
short hose & I've looked around & not heard anyone mention the problem? Interesting catch.... peace
I have a 07 KLX250 with a 352 big bore kit and pumper carb. I took it on a 1300 mile trip in 4 days with lots of high speed highways, dirt roads, trails and wheels. I consumed no noticable oil! And it is old and making way more power than it did from the factory. I don't think oil consumption is a thing unless you are riding at 8+k all the time. Nice fix!
Wow wth honda?? Sucks that you had to deal with this but I’m glad you found a fix!!
Brother we have a same bike
My advice to you is to rebore the block and install a new piston and new valve seal
Fantastic
Now tie in the pairs valve from the valve cover to that crank case breather and ditch the catch can.
Seriously, that's it? I thought the ring was too short or something. Hmm
That's it... I was prepared to dig into this thing but after testing with the added hose for a few days and not seeing oil consumption anymore, I decided to give it a longer test. Decided it was good after 700 miles of not seeing any movement at all in the oil level. The unpaid interns that cobbled this design together did not turn out to be a cost effective solution, as Honda is already rebuilding engines under warranty after people fry them because of this piece of hose that is too short.
@@TortureTestMagazine Honda being penny wise and pound foolish. Excellent diagnosis, though I'm guessing having to wring out your air filter after every ride might have led you to it :)
@@TortureTestMagazine can you see oil residue in the clear hose you put on? I wanted to see a video of a few revs and oil shooting into the clear hose.
@@motomike33 retooling is expensive...
Yes you can see oil in the clear hose, you can even see it collecting at the bottom in this video. I haven't identified exactly when the oil makes its way into the hose but it doesn't happen by RPM alone. You can hold it to the limiter for several seconds and not see any oil go up in there, but riding around town and looking down at it at every stop light, you'll see that it's nice and wet in there. Perhaps it slings just right at certain transmission shaft speeds or something, idk... I'll leave it up to someone else to investigate the why, I just want to ride now that my bike is fixed lol
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You do a compression test on it?
So was your air filter soaked in oil at all?
My Dr 200 with low miles loses oil for some reason. This might be my answer as well.❤
Honda gets praised a lot for their "bulletproof" reputation, but man...I'm glad all my Honda's are gone. Multiple XR/CR models through the years. My KTM's have been way more reliable and not riddled with silly issues like this.
Glad you found a fix for your bike!
Is this still functioning properly?
Has honda addressed this issue?
It's always crank case breathers / vents
this guiy is great
Beem riding one for the last 8 years and never have had any issue with oil consumption. I wonder if your issue is a result of one of the changes they made in the NA version vs the International version.
Odd question, but do you think its possable to add a kick start to the NA XR150l? Really the only thing I miss on this bike. Other then that lil guy has been a blast.
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@therealrealshocker I actually came across a few guys that have done a conversion, looks sweet.
@@natet8148 with xr150??? Dang that would be sweet! Who makes the kit? Or parts to make it happen
Mine bump starts super easy, as in, paddle with feet, put in second, pop clutch, started!
@@steventyree3851 I am literally gunna try this in the morning. Thanks
I wonder if they installed it upside down. maybe should have a recall
Awesome Fix. Honda should know better.
Just my 2c worth, it may be worth shoving some sort of strainer up into the vertical section of the pipe before the turn to give the oil; A: more of a restriction, and B: more surface area to condense onto (while still allowing airflow). Maybe steel wool or mesh or something of the like, similar to what I've seen in OEM airboxes on bigger bikes.
from the suggestions you were getting it sounds like "common sense" is really just being stupid lazy. good on you for not just taking it and doing something about it.
Nice
My xr150l burnt out at 2400 miles and took honda 4 months to fix it
your need the XR 190L .
Judging by the terrain I'd guess you don't clean the air filter after every ride getting dirt in the rings.
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Was it really a flaw or is it designed that way to keep fresh oil?
Obviously not a way to keep fresh oil if you cant keep oil in it
@@eazyc9234 sure it is a way to keep fresh oil if you keep adding it. Maybe not the best way. But a way
@@eazyc9234 it’s not like it gets burned up that fast. I’ve driven my Toyota rav4 with a leaky valve cover gasket for years because I do tend to procrastinate lol
2500 mile oil change lmao. I change my oil every 600 kms on my xr250l when riding hard
I wonder if honda knows for this. You should tell them.
Should take them side mirrors off when riding out doors 🤷♂️
But can it race at Glen Helen? 😂
Can you make a quick video tutorial for dummies on how to do this mod yourself without fking everything up
Please please engine swap it with an CRF 230 please that will make it the perfect bike for sure
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That's common problem with xr150 it's usually bad valve seals that make them consume oil,
Crf150r swap it
What about just venting it to the ground from the crank case, and capping the port where it would of plugged into the airbox?
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