840 HP Dodge Demon vs Champion Porsche 991 Turbo S - Drag Race Rematch - Road Test TV®
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- Dodge Demon vs Champion Tuned Porsche 991.2 Turbo S !! Drag Race ReMatch !!
Drag Race between a 2018 Dodge Demon vs a 2018 Porsche 991. 2 Turbo S. The Dodge Demon is a 4250 Heavyweight whereas the Porsche weighs about 800 lbs (400 kilos) less.The Dodge Demon is powered by a 6.2 L Supercharged V8 which is rated at 840 horsepower and 770 lb/ft of torque when stock. The Demon owner istalled lightweight wheels and removed the passenger seat as well as the rear seat since this Demon was ordered with full interior. Our 2018 Porsche Turbo S is powered by a 3.8 Liter Twin Turbo Flat 6 which is rated at 580 hp and 553 lb-ft of torque when stock. We went to our friends at Champion Motorsports to increase the horsepower while keeping all of the stock hardware, except for an exhaust change. Champion added a Tubi Exhaust and Tuned the ECU resulting in an additional 100 horsepower to the wheels (approximately 620 AWHP / 700 horsepower at the crank). The Demon makes a little more power, but the Porsche is a quite a bit lighter. So, who wins? Watch the video and see what happens, and tell us what you think.
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Impressive... but that 911 does that without being a stripped down drag car. You could daily it easily.
Dude, that last run was legit on the reaction times. You got the jump on him hard
if you watch closely on the 2nd race, the demon jumped on also
Porsche Turbos, rS2, RS3 are always make you work to take them down, those cars are super consistent. The guy in the Dodge knows his car and how to launch it.
Wow great races 🏁
I don't even need to finish watching the video to guess who won. There is no getting past the advantage of rear wheel drive with engine over axle or even all wheel drive that the Porsche has. The Dodge will just spin and never put all that power to the ground.
Unless he puts on some slicks, if it doesn't already have them. If it does, then slightly wider slicks will help with tire spin.
Demon 840 hp with Hellephant 1000 hp
Wow, most angry Dodge hater I've ever seen. And really, you "don't need to watch the video" Check the video before you even say anything.
@@bevbee9372 Actually I'm a Porsche hater. When I posted my comment I was weary of all the Porsche world-beater videos and wanted to see one taken down. I'm a Dodge man through and through, though mostly a fan of the B-body cars. I miss the '68 - '70 Charger and want one soon. My dad had a '68 Coronet 318, and I've had 4 2nd gen Dodge Rams, one with a 360 gas 5.9, 2 12 valve and 1 24 valve Cummins. Sorry if my comment offended you, no offense intended! Now if someone just be honest and post the other side of the coin and show something American with a modified V8 beating a dang Porsche, and for that matter a Tesla! Peace!
Nice run for both cars!
We raced 4 times and as I remember it. It was 2 Demon 1 Porsche and on race 4 you won leaving us at 2 amd 2. Was a fun run day. Hope to do it again
@ Andrew MacPherson Hi Andy, good to hear from you. If you recall, this was the rematch. We raced 3 times this day. We raced 4 times the first time - 2 Porsche / 2 Demon. On this day, we raced 3 times for the best of 3. Very close races - 2 wins for Porsche, 1 win for Demon. Was fun racing !! Thanks again and thanks for watching !!
Well the demon got to the 60’ first but otherwise edged out. Surprising how well the Porsche hooks
Agreed, both cars were hooking in the 1.4’s. The 60 foot was surprisingly good on the Porsche.
Its AWD.
Agreed. The Demon hooks incredible for RWD.
The Porsche being all wheel drive and having engine modifications was the determining factor. A stock Porsche would have never stood a chance against a Demon. Hold on to your horses the Z06 is coming...
I'm a sucker for Porsches but when it comes to Drag Strips, a Muscle Car will always look better. From the Porsche's POV it looks so much at home. It's like seeing a lion in the wild. Whether it's leading or trailing, the view of the Demon is sooooo awesome.
Great race for so little mods to the Porsche! The 911 turbo is such a masterpiece. Then again I could be a bias owner with a GIAC bench tune.🙄
It also proves that a stock 911 turbo S would not be able to keep up with a stock Dodge Demon. By far the most impressive car of the two was the Demon being heavier with rear wheel drive and also no engine tuning. It is simple to boost a Demon to 1000 hp by just changing supercharger pulleys.
@@Mandolin1944 can a Demon run with a 911 turbo on a non prepped surface stock vs stock? The answer is no and its been proven several times. For the 911 turbo to venture where the Dodge is strongest and defeat it with a mild tune, still underpowered, is engineering prowess at its best. The Dodge can't do the same.
We like both cars, but agree that the stock Demon (other than lightweight wheels and some weight reduction) was impressive to run with a tuned 991 Turbo S. If you look closely in the warehouse in this video you'll notice we have a Demon stashed away. Thanks for watching !!
@@williamwilson5125
Can a rwd Porsche do with the
Demon does at 4000 ibs?? You
Guys hate giving anything USDM
Credit. Its engineering aswell
@@WindyCity1992 that isn't what Porsche is about. They are designed to be sports cars (lightweight, lower output, and better handling). The demon uses brute force to push itself down a drag strip. It was purpose built by MOPAR to run straight down the track. I think the real question is can the demon go around the corners faster then a 911?
considering the weight difference between the two, the AWD vs. RWD, and that the 911 was modded, i'd have to say that the Demon did quite well for itself. great video guys.
Yea and that its also a prepped surface
Prepped surface plus no seats
@@enlightenedplug1640 The factory set up is for it come with no seats, still freaking heavy af.
Demon was modded too......PCM CHANGE FOR THE DIFFERENCE FROM 808-840.....AND THE RACE GAS AS WELL....ALONG WITH THE WEIGHT REDUCTION😄....FAIR RUN GIVEN
How long do you cool down between runs? Anything to promote intercooler cool down?
@PFBzzz All 3 runs were back to back with no cool down. Thanks for watching !
Demon redlit race two, Porsche red lit race 3. Super evenly matched cars. Both awesome rides!
@Wetwillybilly … believe it or not, no one red lit on any run. All clean runs. Very close to red lighting on last run with Porsche with an .013 light. You can tell a red light when the red bulb lights and a negative number appears on the timeslip by reaction time. Thanks for watching !!
Agree to disagree. Protree would have redlit you.
The Demon is cute and impressive but give me the Turbo S. I can see past the muscle car gimmick
Fantastic race, love the match up. Thought the porsche would have taken all three.
Funny how they failed to mention the Porsche is all wheel drive. The Porsche has also had modifications.
Demon was modded as well......808???....to....840!!!! PCM CHANGE.....TUNES FOR THE RACE GAS AND TIMING ALONG WITH THE WEIGHT REDUCTION.....SO IN ALL HONESTY.....IT WAS FAUR
This video has made me no longer a dodge fan
Guys... I'm a porsche fanboy and I gotta say that was a jump on the last race. If you put the video to 0.25x the porsche was moving forward before the light went green. Sorry to the article that brought me here, and sorry to your claim that the Porsche set off at 0.013 after the click, but even Porsches aren't faster than the speed of light. Do the test yourself. 0.25x and start at 6:10. Be ready to pause-play-pause the video when it gets close to green. You will see movement
I'm sure if the driver had accelerated a flash later for movement AT the green, he still would've won though
@RealJ8 Thanks for the comment. What a lot of people don’t know is that there are two staging lights which illuminate as a result of the front tire entering two light beams during staging the car. As the lights on the tree come down, the movement of the car just before the light turns green is the sign of someone cutting a good light and not breaking the light beam before the light turns green. The .013 light is proof that there was no jump as is no red light. If it was a red light, the red light bulb would have lit and the reaction time number would have had a negative sign such as -.013. In short, there was no jump, just a very good light. Thanks for watching !!
Considering the Demon Challenger is stock, it is no joke.
Last race the 911 jumped the start but great races 🏁 🏎 👌
Believe it or not, the last race was a clean start (no jump/no red light) except the Demon was a little late off the light. Thanks for watching !!
Was the Demon launching with the trans brake ?
@Justin W … For consistency, the Demon driver was just foot braking on the launch vs using the trans-brake. So, the trans-brake was not used on any of these runs. Great question and thanks for watching !!
Did I see jumps on the last 2 races?
Good regardless.
Believe it or not, all 3 races were clean. No red lights. Thanks for watching !
Hellephant 1000 hp
Stop comparing fresh Wagyu Beef to frozen hamburgers.
Race 2, from the 60" to the lights, Porche gained .010 sec......
That is very closely matched acceleration ,
Porche only slightly better once rolling
Wicked match up !
Agreed, the Turbo S was a bit quicker and faster, and the tree decided the winner … Thanks for watching !
Id like to know the launch rpm of the Demon. Sure sounds like it could handle more rpm at the line.
I believe the launch rpm was approximately 1500 rpm against the converter before launch. Agree more RPM may have helped ET or could have caused the Demon to spin. Demon driver's intent was to catch a good light and not spin... Thank for your comment and for watching..!
1000,1100 if more the car will boog briefly 200 feet out
@@andrewmacpherson3108 why would the car bog 200ft out? As a drag racer myself, that doesnt make sense.
@@mopar2ya165 I don't know why. I just know Demons do that. I have been 2 Legion of Demons events and there are a lot of very knowledgeable people there. They all launch at the +/- 1000 rpm range. There has been discussion on the bog. it is what it is.
I have a hole in my shirt. Will you fix it with your sewing machine sounding Porsche?
Lol … that 9 second German sewing machine would likely rip another hole in your shirt. Thanks for watching !
Why does the Porsche sound like a turbo tractor 🚜
Great races. The car with the best P.T.W.R. will almost always win. I would like to see some bracket racing which will also show who's better at launching.
Also great engineering, that Porsche was very consistent and the Mopar started heat soaking by round 3. Hats off to the import for maximizing the platform.
The porsche definitely jumped on the last race.
Nah. Take some time to read the time slip, .013 sec reaction time.
Simply a pro level launch most would think is a jump.
Hence why he said look at the lights.
@Jay Bomb … 100% correct … Didn’t want to lose the last race. When I launched on that pass, I thought I red-lighted until the light turned green instead of red. Thanks for watching !!
@@roadtesttv You took off like a bat outta hell!! Cheers mate be safe out there!
Definitely earned a new sub
@Jay Bomb … Thanks, Jay Bomb. We really appreciate the support. Have more good videos coming. Thanks again !
@@jaybomb5022 Definitely deceiving to the eyes but I see what you mean👍
my hobby is Dodge Demon 840 hp Dodge Demon with Hellephant 1000 hp great great
That Demon needs too lose some weight. Nearly 1000lbs heavier than the Porsche.
The demon is 4280lbs which is much lighter than the hellcat versions. However, it's not always the weight. The Porsche is rear engine layout with AWD and the demon is front engine layout with RWD. Engine placement plays a huge role in acceleration and handling. Rear engine and mid engine layouts have superior acceleration.
Ok so title says someone gets smoked. Looked like a tight race to me
Por he launched before green on third run. Some shit
German muscle,BABY!!
It's modes tho vs a stock drag car.
@yusuf gta,that demon has some heavy modifications from factory.
@@spaniardmartinez6896 it's still a stock car from the factory tho. It comes like that from the fact. It's the top of the line Challenger.
The Porsche has had modded and didn't come exactly with the performance it showed in this video from the factory. It took a tuned for to keep up. Yes, the new 992 turbo S can match it but not the 991 turbo S.
Adolfs good friend mr Porsche made bad ass cars...
Off the line the Porsche is very fast but roll race it’s harder for it to beat the challenger. The dodge demon is much heavier.
There is a video On Carwow that demonstrates a roll race between a 992 version of the 911 turbo s and the Demond.
The demon hit the limiter tho so the demon would have stay in front of it.
Great race, that proves the Germans are one of the best engineers. RIP Mopar
Don't get me wrong I love German cars but this wasn't a car race it was a driver race the demon did pretty well against a supercar with weight right on its rear wheels
Nice race but every body knows the truth that dodge demon is the fastest on a quarter mile. If Porsche was better , i wluld have been able to hit 9.65 seconds which was only done by the great demonl
Its on a prepped surface and the driver happens to be really good, porsche kind of is better.
If the dog didn't stop to take a shit, it would have caught the rabbit. lol
The Demon is about 1000 pounds heavier I think.
The Beetle has four wheel drive system, it's help.
Posche jumped on the 3rd race by a country mile.......come on !
The Porsche, which I was driving, did not red light but pulled a great light while the Demon driver was a bit late on the light. The better light for the Porsche made all the difference in the race. Thanks for watching
The Demon is still a pig with a bunch of power and a lot of noise..
Ok....lets keep it all the way 100....580-553....vs....808-770.....thats both cars .....BONE STOCK.....no tunes....no race gas....no nothing.....OUT OF THAT IS WHERE YOU SEE WHO WINS FOREAL
Stock for Stock - Demon wins. We love both cars and we also own a Demon. The Porsche went 10.6 @ 129 stock The Demon is bone stock an has run 9.8 @ 137 mph full weight in average DA. Would go 9.6 at 140 in great DA. Both great cars for different reasons. Have to admit, the Champion tune woke that Porsche up. 9.7-9.8 @ 139 - 140 isn’t bad for tune and exhaust.
@@roadtesttv sorry but a....(808-770) HP/TQ BONE STOCK (PCM) DEMON WITHOUT FRONT SKINNIES.... AND WEIGHT REDUCTION OR RACE GAS ......IS NOT ON ANYDAY OF THE YEAR RUNNING A 9.6 AT ALL!!!.....DUDE.....AT ALL!!!!....EVER....
The rental car is a one trick pony…and a lame pony at that. The Porsche is not. Brother hood of muscle ??? 😆👍🏼👍🏼
If the Porsche was bone stock the Demon would have pulled him. 3rd run Porsche red light.
Agree stock for stock, the Demon is faster. However, the 3rd race was not a red light. .013 is a near perfect light. Thanks for watching !