Retired general explains why tanks are so significant on the battlefield
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- The leaders of the United States and Germany announced Wednesday that they will send tanks to Ukraine. Former CIA director and former commander of US Central Command, retired Army General David Petraeus, joins CNN’s Erin Burnett to discuss. #CNN #News
As a grandson of WWII soldiers I never thought possible of welcoming German tanks rolling into Ukraine… I want to express my infinite gratitude to everyone helping our country.
That is well said Outcast
To bad it's taken this long for the west to pull there heads out and do the right thing. Maybe by June they'll send some warplanes.
Maybe you could leave the Iron Crosses on, they would terrify the Russians, as would American flag emblems on Abrams.Psyops.
We stand with you ukraine 🇺🇦 Slava ukraini putting and his rabid dogs of war will pay for this
Tanks with nazi logos killed millions of Russians. What Russians reaction would be if they seem again? It will undoubtedly unite the Russians. Be aware of what you wish for
The irony of all this is that Russia launched this attack to keep Ukraine from joining NATO and forming closer ties with Western Europe, while the attack itself has probably resulted in Ukrainian troops receiving more training on NATO weapons systems than if they had actually joined NATO.
Classic example of a self fulfilling prophecy.
Exactly. As awful as Putin and his fellow monsters are, they also live in the Middle Ages and it makes them dumb.
Ukraine joining NATO ? On what means ? Democracy ?
@@dancotton13 He didn’t say that.
@@MyTubeSVp No, that was supposed to be happening but well, maybe another time.
They do a good job guarding museums.
This guy is brilliant and knows the science of war. Always a pleasure listening to him.
The guy is more of a politician.
hahahahah
THERE WAS A GOOD LOOKING GAL THAT WAS ASIGNED TO GEN. BETRAYUS,,HE WAS GETTING THAT PUSS EVERY NIGHT AND HIS TROOPS KNEW IT. THIS WENT ON FOR A YEAR. WHO WOULD WANT HIS ADVICE,,,CNN OF COURSE SHE WAS WRITING HIS LIFE STORY ETC,,,SHIT
@@GuyRittger Im going to have to look that word up GUY!!! hagiography??!! There is a Bible story,,,King David saw a woman that he had to have. Uriah the Hittite a commander of the Kings army wife.Well King David got her knocked up. So the king had Uriah relieved of duty to return home due to the fact the woman was pregnant. He told Uriah to eat and go home to be with his wife so the baby could be accounted for. Uriah slept outside on the street. He was a great commander of the troops. He thought it not right for him to be home with his wife and his men were on the line fighting and dying, So the King found out about the commander not going into his wife and sent orders for Uriah to go to the hottest area of fighting, And sure enough Uriah was killed,,problem solved. I think the wife was bathsheba???????? Safe 2023 to you are things here on this ball we all occupy are going to go HOT Quickly!
@@GuyRittger You got that right- He should have been indicted...
General Petraus is a top quality guest
Great program but it is best to NOT INTERRUPT the guest
Ok bot
Nice Abrams tanks let's go 🇺🇸🇺🇦
A good explanation from General Petraeus. Tank itself is less important. But once the tank work with other weapon/units, it increase the total fire power in order of magnitudes, and also for that other weapons/units. This is called a synergy, and it is a core principle of combined arms. “Quantity has a quality all its own” has implied no synergy onto it.
Yes he said it the way it needs to be said. The Tank isn't the answer to combat operations it's an important word in the sentence. An infantry rifleman is part of the sentence as is artillery. People tend to focus on the invincibility idea or the awesome power idea of a Tank but it's really the queen on the chess board (as seen early in the war a pawn with an NLAW can still take her off the board).
also only the presence of tanks bring huge morale boost and confidence for the casual footsoldier.. when i was trained as jaeger its a powerful feeling when these metal monsters are around you
Tanks and infantry are teamed.
Tanks without infantry are doomed.
Infantrymen have a love hate relationship with tanks. Lol
Well said. "Quantity has a quality all its own" should be relegated as only true regarding what worked for the Soviets when they were able to push back the invading Germans ...80 years ago and at a massive cost to their future.
Outdated thinking tanks are obsolete in the age of drone warfare. Ukraine has taken out 80 odd russian tanks with drones. A kamikaze drone is more mobile.
We know why are important. But the problem is ....when they arrive?? 3 months when there is important even 1 day?!
The Abrams, Leopard, and Challengers don’t burn that easily unlike all the Russian tanks that already have.
Different approaches - we protect the manpower better.
So Putin is going to really like them when he takes them from the Nazi Ukrainians. Good to know.
US dollars burn the same as Rubles.
They did in Syria with the SDF on the Turks and parts of Iraq with RPG on the backside of Abrams with hit and runs by ISIS. And now are talking about Russia!
“Supreme “. Huh
Combined arms the key. Russians ignore this to their cost. One of the best analysts
They already did ignore it. Remember the tanks rolling into urban environments with no infantry support in the early days of the war? I was shocked to see that. They got whacked.
Nope! It’s not 1945 and Russian are not “Dumb” like you.
the first former general which is worth to listen.
Without adequate air support, we really can't talk about combined arms operations. Giving anti-air systems without fighter jets makes it really hard to use these tanks as effective offensive tools against an enemy who has advantages in numbers, resources, and airforce. It is a huge step forward that might be significant for making Ukraine able to defend itself. But it isn't enough to end this war.
German Gepard is the short answer.
The U.K. had more balls and was the first Western country to provide Ukraine with tanks ..So please , give credit where it’s due !!!
One would be really naive to think Ben Wallace acted unilaterally, without support from DC; he’s just just a parsley to push Germany over the line.
The credit really belongs to Alex Boris de Pfeffel Johnson, who wasn’t hesitating in his support for Ukraine, which probably helped deflect some attention from his domestic challenges.
Any pose of UK grandeur on the world stage is perhaps slightly tone deaf, given the, let’s say it politely, transitional current situation.
How’s that Brexit working out for ya…..
We shouldn’t be helping Ukraine at all so this comment is dumb as fk!
Good point Joy. England has pretty much always been on the correct side of history. Ummm, except for a couple of things in 1776 and 1812.
To Poland mostly and Estonia !
Kudos to UK now triple the number,BTW please consider rejoining the EU,we need a very strong UK ,economically and this Brexit is costing you. Chalengers are 6 months late.
Supplying Ukraine w tanks should have been done from day 1!! Countless lives lost by sitting on their hands on this!!
just dont be fooled, this isnt about to let UA to win, its about to have war as long as possible
Ah, now I understand why tanks are so significant. It's because they're very important.
Continued....The General explains the situation very well.
Love hearing from General Petraeus. Nice to have a knowledgeable General speaking about this war.
Mind Begs the Question:
Deploying Weapons,Mercenaries
In USA backyard(Cuba) - Security Threat
In Russias backyard(Ukraine) - not Security Threat?
One of the best General.
David Petraeus ruined his reputation having a very public extramarital affair with Paula Broadwell
So knowledgeable that compares the US army's miserable performance in Afghanistan and Iraq with Russian fighting the professional Ukrainian army equipped with all that NATO can deliver!
@@barnowl4528 He did not have any reputation before that. His biggest achievement was to pay GOOD terrorists in Iraq to watch his back when withdrawing from Iraq. He was not a fighting commander he proved to be a fu*cking commander! Now he is bragging about the US's low casualties in Afghanistan while they were staying in their bases vs the Russian Army that is fighting Urban warfare against a professional army equipped with all sorts of weapons.
Thank you for putting it in perspective for us.
How are they going to protect such tanks without air support?
It’s not like the Russians have air superiority.
Obviously - no way to do that. It’s more like a political move than real military one
Erin is the best , her questions are extremely good and to the point and i seen the tears behind her eyes in earlier videos when reporting the atrocities , great work Erin , Pertraeus was great here to clear questions up as well
She senses something fishy
@@htiklein8954
☝tin foil hat 😂
She is also gorgeous, just sayin.
Boots on the ground is a highly disrespectful slur she made, those are people's loved ones not footwear
She looks like a textbook Karen 🤮
My favorite CNN reporter by far. One of the few "talking heads" that actually appears to be MORE than just a talking head and actually has a realistic view and understanding of the subject matter at hand. 👍👍
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A real genius who led US to disaster in Iraq & resigned in disgrace. What short memories people have.
@@numanunees2597 All of CNNs generals are disgraced. Clark wanted to attack russians during 1999 because they arrived at an airfield before the americans did. It's funny.
Ret. Gen. Mark Hertling is another good person to listen to. He actually worked with the Ukrainian army and helped them become more like a western/NATO army that they are now. You can tell the Ukrainian command structure is a lot better than the Russian one and they know how to use their resources and assets to their advantage.
@@numanunees2597 no he didnt
Patreas is a great choice to speak on such tactics. Very interesting.
good to see the general!!!!
Also, Ukraine is getting more than 100 tanks...more like 200 - You left out Spain, Estonia, Poland, etc.
Wrong, maybe 100
😂 all tanks that Russia doesn’t destroy the will now own! This is a bad investment to give a bunch of Ukraine losers anything! They have no chance will 1000 tanks!
The good news is the tanks they are getting seem to be mainly 2A6 and 2A5 which are fairly modern. The 2A4 is 40 years old. Though still good and with composite Armour it would be better to upgrade them to Leopard 2A5 standard. I don't know if there is time for this.
No. they are getting 31 Abrams which won't be in Ukraine until next year. Then about 100 leopards from various countries and 12 Challenger.
They dont deliver many tanks as of now. Poland delivers 10, Norway is thinking about 4, Finnland and Swedens numbers are unknown, Spain thought about 7, Greece and Slowakia cant sent any (they have good reasons thought), Netherlands thinks about sending only a handfull.
To reach even 100 in this batch is unlikely.
However, there are rumours about Germany preparing to sent in 90 battletanks in the long run, wich would most likely be bought out of the stock of older and used pieces that the industry holds (total numbers in stock: around 120).
Thats why Scholz put on so much pressure on the US to sent Abrams. The US military alone has 4000 discarded yet usable Abrams in stock. Only 10% of them would be sufficient to turn the whole war around
"Those who can make you believe absurdities (Putin/Lavrov/Peskov,Shoigu/Prigozhin/Gerasimov/Medvedev) can make you commit atrocities."
Voltaire
You mean like how biden's rhetoric made Shannon Brandt commit murder?
You forget to mention Medvedev. But he's an insignificant troll anyway, so I don't blame you.
@@andrei1971 👍
WEF, for sure. And the Western media too. You should label your own countries into this simple quote. Don't just lump all the Russians into this. They've been betrayed. Can't really talk sense on CNN and it's brainwashed followers though. People want war, they'll get it.
Andrei : I re-edited and included Medvedev.
GOOD ! Slava Ukraini. 💙 💛 🙏
Wow, good journalism, who knew it existed in mainstream anymore
I support Ukraine, God willing they’ll win.
You mean when they win
@@Bainteoir Nah. Never a given
win what? They are right next door to Russia.
Yeah, we need to launder our dirty money through them.
@@handsomestik there is a very large faction in Russia that understands no real country poses a threat to their country (except maybe China) because no one really cares to ever be a part of their territory. I mean, why?? The US is already the largest oil producing nation in the world, #1 in proven gas AND coal reserves.. their lies about anyone wanting to invade a shithole are fantasy!
Thank you all the military leaders and political leaders coordinating this situation.
Thanks for coordinating our own suicide.
I’m right there with you
that lady couldnt wait to interrupt the general at every moment of this interview
Can these tanks do anything without the air cover that the US normally provides?
Yeah they will burn.
You're about to find out...
Can these neo nazis I mean Ukrainians do anything without the US giving them money and weapons?
depends. they dont need air cover if Ukraine is able to prevent Russia from having it. Ukraine was able to push hundreds of miles east of karkiv without air cover and using much less capable tanks than what they are getting now. Taking Izyum, a large city with a lot of russian forces, was a huge win..that Ukraine accomplished with very little major US equipment. Taking Melitpol with 130 western tanks and 50 bradleys will be easy in comparison.
I would guess there are some Ukrainian pilots getting F16 training right now. When the tanks roll out F16s will be included and the pilots will be ready. Don’t show all of your cards at once.
I just added a second Ukrainian flag to the outside of my home. 👍
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Bot.
Cool story
How many American flags?
How long have you felt the need to virtue signal ?
Well spoken in general I can tell a true general by your voice and body language thank you your knowledge is powerful
Tanks you!
This man is my favorite general.
When the FBI and DOJ recommend Felony charges against someone, you know they're a good general.
Extramarital affair with Paula Broadwell
This man would never betrayed us.
@@barnowl4528 not tired yet bot !nobody gives a sh..t
he's a punk......... complete failure as a military leader
Petraeus is all in!!
Yes, full penetration occurred while in his office
He is a shill for the military industrial complex.
@@brendanroberts4866 🤣🤣
America is glad to help our friends in the east 🇺🇸🤝🇺🇦
That guy is a legend amongst all who served under him
Why did he get fired?
@@GotoHere Woman
Putin doesn't need that much praise, relax bro.
Ummm, no. I served. Sooo....?
Yeah he did a terrible job in Iraq and Afghanistan
As with other "small" wars this will provide an excellent testing ground for US weapons technology against a sophisticated, relatively speaking, enemy. We've seen how effective ATGMs, HIMARS, artillery munitions and platforms are and now it's tanks. Roll on.
This would be a good time to roll out the T-100’s.
Haha yes, testing weapons of death and destruction on the battlefield. Like that himars strike on the apartment building! Great accuracy and no blood on America's hands. Hollywood makes you Americans think war is a good thing. How many people Russian troops who didn't even wanna be in Ukraine have died while testing weapons. I dint understand why people like seeing humans killing each other over land. I suppose America doesn't have anyone to bully atm so they're jumping on the ukraine bandwagon
If HIMARS is so effective than why we need to send tanks
@@maximgrey8174 Your point is well taken about the American public not actually understanding the horrors of war. Nevertheless we understand, as does almost every other country on earth, that a Russian victory absolutely means the end of self-rule by Latvia and Estonia and a half dozen other countries. You know that and so does everyone else. So by not stopping Putin now the entirety of Eastern Europe, and then Germany and the rest of Central Europe, may be in a permanent state of semi-war. And if we fail in Ukraine, 100% China will try and take Taiwan and that will be a quarter-million deaths or more. That is absolutely certain. That lunatic in North Korea will invade some of those disputed islands, and who knows what else. There’s no other choice here.
@@nikoknezevic4441 if a hammer is effective, why do you need a saw?
they are not the same tools. they do not do the same things.
Retired general (who now works for tank contractor) explains why tanks are so important...
Will be interesting to compare the performance of the Abrams vs the Leopard. In tank vs tank comparisons I've seen, it's usually the Leopard rated as the best.
u ***** s**t...this its not a game
The Abrams uses the Leopards Gun and firing system , manufactured in the US under licence from Rheinmetal and the armour is Chobam, a British invention
Listening to a western general about how a tank is the centerpiece but still just a piece that is excellent when used and supported properly in combined arms warfare. Then there's the Russians who seem to think tanks don't need infantry support or recon or air support or artillery support or anything and then they wonder why their war has been a disaster, why they've lost so many tanks and APCs that they are now dusting off old shit retired since the early 80's and trying to get this stuff ready to go fight for lack of anything better.
Ukraine prooved that a couple of theams with manpads are very valuable. And russian showed that theyr logistics doesnt exist. They deploy troops/vehicules on the ground and they wander around. What ukraine needs is constant missions and target aquisitions, non stop
And now Ukraine wants F16 fighters for air support/superiority no doubt.
True. Im curious how the Abrahams armor will do. They aren't getting our newest depleted uranium armor but they will still be the most advanced version of the tank and well beyond any russian tank. Their ability to communicate on the battlefield is second to none and often overlooked.
@@moshunit96 In Desert Storm, Iraq lost over 3000 armored vehicles vs. 9 Abrams lost and the gap has widened since then. For a good example of what happened, google the Battle of 73 Easting. Yes, the Russians will have attempted to address the shortcoming since then, but the gap has actually widened in the last 30 years.
More like dusting off shit from the sixties, already.
More interviews with him, please.
Because he gives you the good news you hope for but not realistic facts
Good luck with that!
@@amirtawfik7495 go do invent sth useful for your country- running water or electricity pls
@@amirtawfik7495 how is it good news only it’s the truth?
Russia has been fighting for 1 year and with 0 progress. Just admit Russia is a shithole.
I'd like to see an interview with him about how classified information and the protection of it has national security implications. What are his views on the Presidents and how they mishandled classified information, given that he understands all to well about it and like them, never was held accountable?
@@d.o.g573 Don’t worry about what i do, it isn’t your business. As American i have the right and ability to SAY and VOTE about this matter, if you think i am wrong, tell me why!!! But if you got nothing but these lazy ignorant arguments? No biggie, Its fine to be below some educated levels, Just pls don’t bother commenting.
Erin Burnett you're awesome. You ask all the right questions.
Yeah, and she's pretty at that. I don't like how she interrupts her interlocutors, though.
It's very interesting to hear the General. It explains
he's pretty good, but the true experts as always are in youtube comments.
Putin: "I have no doubt that one way or another sovereignty will be returned to Europe".
Me: Sounds good. Get out of Ukraine.
Ukraine is like Hawaii to Russia 😂
Looking at Europe still. Looking like warmed over dog's breakfast today Vlad.
Get out of that bunker and get a whiff of your defeated comrades!
@Michelle so you go around posting Bible versus 😂
Europe will be free of the US empire
i can say the same with us and our military conflicts in the middle east.
Worse thing about bad guys is that they really think that they're actually the good guys
Exactly, the US has been the most evil, terrorist and fascist empire the world has seen.
Says the demon liberal npc
Remember when he shared confidential information to his side piece and then lied about it?
Tanks are important. As is artillery. Artillery support is super important for tanks in offensive or defensive.
Proper combined arms tactics are what's important. That's a foreign concept for Russian officers and generals.
Do all that we can to help THEM fight for their freedom. Goodness must prevail. Let's be heros
Freedoms = what about j ASSANGE?
@Michelle Sorry I respect Jesus but Jesus is god messenger not God ! nor son of God !!! Thanks !!!
@@jhingoorpatima237 SO sad for this hero the MERICANS want to punish.
Yes we must sign up with Russia to win.
Ukrain now catches all it's male citizens on the street, on markets and even funerals, commandos go to their houses, beat them and take them to the army. There are no male population left, it is not a freedom to die for Zelensky. The whole leadership is cought on corruption, all other parties are banned, you die because you have a different oppinion. This is not freedom, they were free, but they wanted war. And the US gave it to them in exchange for the resources and eternal debt slavery.
worse thing about bad guys is that they really think that they're actually the good guys
This. Both superpowers fighting for resources with people in the middle as expense. Proxy wars are a s.o.b.
Ukraine doesn't stand a chance.
Just like the so called terrorist they are heroes in thier place
@@cucofromchuco You realize America has a peace treaty with Ukraine if and did give up their nukes? They did. Also facts is both countries are curropted as all
@@karlfowler3742 I agree, but the losses Russia takes is absolutely beyond normal numbers for a invasion.
Erin went to one of my favourite reporters
US have been itching for this opportunity for decades, to engage Russia without risking nuclear domestic casualties.
a nuclear war is still a risk. Only dumbs thinks this is a "call of duty" war without any risks.
I worked under him in Baghdad American Embassy and he is an amazing all American leader.
Future president?
Correct-these tanks are extremely dangerous 😂-to the orc soldiers…
Not really
War isn’t necessary..
I took a brief run on ground in Tikrit shoulder and shoulder with you and talks need to happen. Ukraine prospers from veterans like me that will lead
Let's see how well this ages. 😂
“Invulnerable.”
As a former M1A1 and A2 Abrams crewman, I can tell you that this tank and the Leopards and Challengers, which use the same 120mm main gun, will kick the sh@t out of anything the Russians have/or will field. Especially given how the Russians like to stow the ammo in their tanks.
Damn people are still sleeping. Ukraine is a no fly zone ,if Russia wants they can take out anything in Ukraine's territory,air power can't be matched by ground tanks .You said you were in the military you should know it better.
@@dn8533 Maybe, you didn't listen to what the General said. He called the tank the center piece, which it is, and that if all the other pieces are there including air superiority then it is nearly invunerable. But, nothing is totally invunerable same as air power alone CANNOT win a war.
Challengers have a rifled 120mm gun.
@David Wilson I stand corrected. The Leopard 2 does have the same gun as the Abrams. But, I forgot the UK likes to use HESH rounds. So, a rifled gun is needed. At least according to what I found online.
First they won't start because Ukraine will sell their parts and their special fuel. The Russians are playing like the cat with the mouse, they have 20 000 more tanks. Ukraine's half leadership just gone because of corruption, people being catched on the streets or even on funerals and taken into the army, horror things happen, but other voices aren't tolerated. Ukraine's army is gone, no soldiers left, cooling trains are full of dead bodies they don't release becuase afraid of the people. Very soon Ukraine will collapse.
'It is significant symbolically'
As opposed of significant effectively
Condolences to all the families, mothers, fathers, children who lost their loved ones in Ukraine and any other war this world had seen
Mostly Russians so who cares.
Thank you my great grand father died in the Napoleonic war and we still miss him.
@Klemheist That's why I'm heading there after the war.
@Klemheist you mean plenty more mail order brides.
Donate money
It takes 22 weeks to train on the m1 and for every 1 hour of operation there is 3 hours of maintenance. Are they sending all the maintenance support crews needed to keep these tanks moving?
Nope! They are being taught by the U.S. as we text. 🤔 I forgot where but I think they flew in a bunch from Ukraine to N.C. for training.
Germany, the U.S. and the U.K. sending their tanks to help Ukraine is important. Now France is considering sending their Leclerc as well. That is the four strongest western nations standing up for Ukraine against Russia, I think that sends a very strong and important message.
Hope they will not run behind Oplanes !!!
Too little, too late.
a strong message that can cause our own suicide.
Once again German tanks marching towards Russia - just like World War II. We know how that ended.
Good interview from CNN.
Excellent analysis from General Petraeus, sober and measured.
Useful only in sufficient numbers.
Artillery is still the King of Battle. Tanks fire a 105 mm round -- straight.. Against armored front. An artillery shell fires a 155 or more sized shell that lands from above on the succeptible part of the defense. I'd rather have a lot of 155 Palladins than and some HIMARS versus a few tanks. And artillery is easier to train - because you don't shoot and fire at the same time.
Wait a minute. It seems like just yesterday all the experts were saying tanks are now hopelessly obsolete. After all were not the brave Ukraineans wiping the floor left and right with knocked out Russian tanks from their newly acquired Nato supplied Javelin, TOW, and other similar anti-tank weapons?
Look Im a Brit and our Challengers are fast-moving heavyweights that can punch on the move and take shots at ranges most can't even counter. Now vector in we are a small Island nation that garps foreign policy with so many shared goals. Petraeus is a living legend as grasped so much information collated and applies and never bowed down when difficult but raised his head to achive . Now the Abrahams has walked in the ball park Putin twiching as when the logistics are in place are going make the world a better place for all.
Putin can never defeat a united western world,not in a million years
A great General
Tanks are cool. Tanks have an amazing military history. But getting fried inside a tank sounds like a really bad way to go.
The German Leopard tanks are best used on the Frontline battlefields.
The Abrams could be used behind the lines as a mobile artillery piece-shoot and scoot to minimize wear & tear= greater survivability & cheaper maintenance costs.
those "Frontline battlefields" leos were destroyed by isis gorela fighters in Syria........
Spain has the Leopard "E" with unique features like extra front and top armor. I would run away from such a beast in the battlefield. It has a 100% accuracy at 4000 meters distance on the run. Russian tanks' termograph system reaches only to 3200 meters. So they will be detected and destroyed, well in advance, they enter action.
They'll burn all the same. More dead ukrops. Sad!
As a former M1 crewman , the M1 is the wrong tank to use in this environment. M1’s only fit the US doctrine of overweighting force and speed. The Ukraine war is a war of attrition and requires a more hearty , durable alternative that is more fuel efficient. This is precisely why Israel never bought the M1 tank.
@@Etruscan70 Former German soldier here (not a tanker). I generally agree. I'm under the impression that the US finally sent the M1s to kick Germany's butt to finally release the Leopards, as Ben Hodges has pointed out. The M1's problem isn't just the doctrine, the biggest issue is the weight. Most of their infrastructure is built around the lighter soviet tanks and the soft ground in spring is also not ideal for such high ground pressure. The Leopard 2 has the lowest ground pressure of all delivered tank models.
It's funny how so many people make jokes about the older Leopard 1 being promised now as well, when in fact that tank probably makes a lot of sense because of its mobility and much lower weight. its firepower can be upgraded to use the same gun as the M1 and Leo 2 but its mobility on this battlefield is probably superior to both. And not every tank will fight T90s anyway, the biggest threats are artillery, drones and hand held weapons. And to avoid those you need to be fast and mobile and avoid getting hit in the first place. And that's EXACTLY what the Leo 1 was designed for back in the day.
I'm sure the M1 will be helpful somewhere, if only to be held as a reserve around Kiev to free up Ukrainian forces there. The M1 also eats a crapton of fuel for breakfast so I'm not sure if that's ideal for sustained operations anyway, depending on the situation. For now I'm just happy my former home (no longer living there) finally got its ass in gear and is sending the tanks that are required, and if it took M1 deliveries to get that done.. so be it.
Let's also not forget the major morale boost for the Ukrainian tankers when they hear they're getting both the Leo and the M1. That alone is valuable as well.
Tanks, tanks, tanks! Kill, kill, kill! Money, money, money!
Putin's War
In other words. Its not the tank alone its the combination
His stocks in weapon manufacturing is why he’s pushing so hard
He's not alone. Lindsey Graham and all these other warhawks are getting rich
@@barnowl4528 Fancy Ms Lindsay on the TV and letting him discuss the 'integrity' of Germany as he has recently done ? If there is Any person on the planet that should NOT get to discuss anyone else's 'integrity it would be Ms Lindsay ?
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@@barnowl4528 Guess this is why we will never stop being a war nation/ world police force.
The US and Europe need to pile on and get this done before US elections in 2024. Insurance.
or before christmas if you still believe in Coca-Cola Santa Claus
THANK YOU GENERAL PATRAEUS
I'm tired of hearing people say that Ukraine needs to compromise and surrender territory.
I'm tired of hearing that this war is a stalemate.
Ukraine must win.
Ukraine can win,
Give Ukraine the weapons, tanks, jets!!!!!
which means? F16s' loaded with HARMs then A10s for the counter offensive to take back the corridor, ATACM's for the Bridge and munitions stockpiles then Crimea in one smooth stroke.
Petraeus knows his stuff man.
I will make you a deal. If by the end of the year Ukraine has decisively won this war and we are not all a pile of radioactive ashes, I will come back and say you were right. If Ukraine clearly loses this war and Zelensky retires to his villa in Switzerland, you can come back and say I was right. Ukraine will not win this war. I hope I hear from you.
As they lay down to sleep forever
The children’s prayers cease
Lives shortened by a cruel dictator
A dove mourns an unlikely peace
A ruler’s greed cold and heartless,
A conscience empty as space
Saddened parents cries bombard us
As the world offers a warm embrace
It’s a symbol for the amount of days the civilians have suffered
Should bring him back
this guy is an absolute legend
that's what Paula Broadwell said
I'm still a bit skeptical. 90 tanks is about the number in one US armored brigade and while these tanks may be better they are not invincible and can still sustain a lot of casualties. They' ll have to be used very intelligently and skillfully to have a big impact....when they actually do arrive in the field and ready for use.
Yes. If well maintained and properly protected and skillfully operated by highly experienced crews communicating constantly they are awesome killing machines.
If sent by sea ... how many submarines do the Russkies have handy?
@@johnhough4445 they're being sent overland. through poland most likely.
which is why in secret, Americans will man these tanks, not Ukranians. Just like in the Korean war, it was Soviet pilots flying the MiG gets for North Korea and American pilots flying the Jets for South Korea. Don't be fooled: Russia is not at war with Ukraine with but with NATO.
@@alexnds1 no, it won't be american tankers manning them. there are already ukranians in tank school and they've been there for several months now. just like there are already ukranians in school flying F-16's since november. they're using experienced tanker crews and pilots, so the basics are already known.
any high level maintenance will be taken care of by shipping the tank back to poland. lower level maintenance will be directed via video chat, just like they're doing with the gepard AAA systems.
Pampered Prince.
Don't forget the infantry tanks they meant to be used as a combined force as the infantry has to secure the tanks.
Currently, the U.S. has about 8,000 Abrams, but “significantly less” are battle-ready, he said. The U.S. draws from those tanks in storage and remanufactures them for allies, such as Poland, which is buying upwards of 350 Abrams.1 day ago
more pentagon fuck up
We are not sending the one's from storage.
@@robertbiondo Will they be send one by one directly from the factory. Like cattle to the slaughterhouse.
We need them tanks to invade Diego Garcia. . . .Congress pays for more tanks. . .Our military doesn’t want them)
@@kitburns1665 It all about making money.... None of these politicians give a shit about any lives.... They just want to keep their "Forever Wars" intact..
Of course Patraus is pushing tanks... I wouldn't be surprised if he's a chairperson or large share holder of many of the companies that produce these weapons...
"Maximum casualties for Minimal gains" has been the Russian playbook for a long time now....in defensive war, they trade territories and lives to eventually, aided by winter, repel the enemies. In offensive wars, they rely on overwhelming numerical superiority...
It tough not to see another old man who took advantage of his position with his underlings. Smart due to the best America education just given him - sure --> integrity when no one is looking, not so much.
He constantly was interrupting her. Small energy.
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Great General ❤
All support for #Ukraine 🙏
It's a great recipe for massive disappointment.
No way I would get into a tank.
What General P leaves out is that our tank crews were VERY experienced with those tanks. His squad leaders alone in Iraq had 5+ years of real training. On the Abrams tanks themselves. Forget the platoon sergeants, etc. 15 years for those guys. And could hit whatever they wanted. Day and night. And they were protected. Within combined arms operations.
I’m afraid the Abrams could be death traps for the Ukrainians and will draw concentrated dismounted and drone attacks from the Russians.
I’d take a Ukrainian crewed M1A1 over a Ukrainian crewed T64 any day. Their tankers are experienced in crap tanks, giving them NATO tanks will exponentially affect this fight.
@@mcelravys No, it won't. They are not experienced at all in operating tanks together as a unit. Just sitting still providing indirect fire.
Might be handy as decoys then.
I see your point, but drawing the attention of dismounts and drones also means that those cannot do anything else for a while. Like the Ukrainians will have to take special care if any enemy MBT is in the general area, so do the Russians. So a somewhat trained crew in an M1 or Leopard may still make a difference where a Humvee or an M113 could not.
Robert 100 % correct. They will get nowhere with these tanks. The Russians will pick them off easily... Suddenly tanks are nb we have been hearing nothing since the start except all the tanks the Ukrainians took out with javelins.. Now tanks are back in fashion gimme a break. Defending the Russian advance is pointless. I agree with doug mcgregor
How would he know. Setting behind a desk
I don’t like Erin Burnett or CNN, but I do respect General Patraeus , the man is a tactical genius, and he’s worth listening to on any news outlet
Interesting to hear him describe the tank as the very centerpiece to ground warfare (the way surface naval forces are grouped around supporting the carrier.) I think that perhaps largely applies in offensive operations, but combining with infantry (especially when mechanized) is really important, and I honestly don't think he's explaining that very well.
In layperson's terms, tanks (supported by infantry) take ground; and infantry (supported by tanks) hold ground. And infantry are far more important in cities and any built up areas.
If Ukraine gets the tanks it needs, it can make a major counterattack in a few months. If those don't arrive in time (in large enough quantities, with newly trained Ukrainian crews, etc) then Ukraine will have to focus on holding off the Russian attack.
you read that right....offensive is coming!
Correct me if I am wrong but didn't the azari-armenia conflict show that in modern warfare tanks easy targets for drone attack. Armenia had its tanks wiped out in short order.
@@numanunees2597 That's why Germany delivered the Gepard - it's fast, mobile anti air defense
Infantry support the tanks you got it backwards...
A retired four star general isn’t explaining that well? Lol, perhaps you’re not understanding it well?
Tanks alone are a big help. But without Airplanes their effect is also minimal because they are a easy target for the Russian airforce. For that reason we should also provide F16's and other fighterjets to maximize the effect.
You mean that huge Russian airforce that has achieved air superiority over Ukraine? Or the one that keeps its aircraft on the airbases?
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If you keep it away from infantry with their missiles...if...