1971 Dodge Charger RT drag racing 1970 Chevrolet Chevelle SS PURE STOCK DRAG RACE - no commentary
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- 1970 Chevy Chevelle SS396 drag racing 1971 Dodge Charger R/T
First car is a 1970 Chevrolet Chevelle Super Sport. The other a 1971 Dodge Charger RT. The Chevelle has a L34 “396” V8 but was actually 402ci by 1970 (error in the video). The Charger R/T has a 440 Magnum V8. The 1970 Chevy Chevelle 396 was rated 350 horsepower and the Charger RT Magnum 440 was rated 370 horsepower. The 1970 Chevelle Super Sport features a 4-speed manual transmission while the Dodge Charger has a TorqueFlite 3-speed automatic. Rear gearing in the Chevelle is 3.31, and 3.55 in the Charger R/T. The 1971 Charger R/T was heavy weighing-in at 4212 pounds, including the driver. The Super Sport Chevelle is also rather heavy at 3938 pounds. There were 51,455 total L34 Chevelle SS396 produced in 1970. Total Chargers produced in 1971 was 82,114 with total number of R/Ts being controversial: likely around 2659 - 3118. The 1971 Charger 440 was tested by Car and Driver in March 1971 with results showing a 0-60 of 6.5 seconds and the 1/4 mile in 14.8 seconds @ 95.7 mph. There is no original L34 SS396 Chevelle testing available for the 1970 year.
Pure Stock Muscle Car Drag Race (PSMCDR). FAST Factory Appearing Stock Tire factory stock. Super Car Drag Race.
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The rules for PSMCDR are listed below:
For 1955 to 1979 musclecars built in United States and Canadian assembly plants with a minimum warranty of 12 months and 12,000 miles.
Any car running faster than 11.50 will be disqualified and will not have a qualifying time recorded.
Any convertible running faster than 13.50 will be disqualified and will not have a qualifying time recorded.
Casting numbers must be correct for the year and horsepower claimed including intake manifold, heads, and exhaust manifolds. Blocks do not have to be "numbers matching," but they must be the correct displacement. Overbores up to .070" are allowed. Stock cranks only.
All Engines - 1.5 extra points allowed over advertised.
The camshaft must be correct for the year, model, and horsepower claimed for the type of lifter (hydraulic or solid). Roller cams NOT allowed.
The valve train must be factory stock for the year, make, and horsepower claimed.
The ignition system must be stock, including the distributor, cap, coil, and wires. Points may be replaced with any electronic conversion that fits under the stock distributor cap.
The carburetor must be correct for the year, make, and horsepower claimed. Jetting and metering changes are permitted. THE CHOKE ASSEMBLY MUST BE IN PLACE AND FUNCTIONAL!
Cast-iron exhaust manifolds are mandatory and must be correct for the year, model, and horsepower claimed. Internal modifications to the exhaust manifolds are NOT allowed. Under no circumstances will headers be allowed, including those cars that came with headers delivered in the trunk. Pipes must be routed as they were originally for the year, make, model, and engine combination. Mufflers must be stock looking in design, that is, oval in shape. No glasspacks or straight pipes allowed unless installed as original equipment. Maximum muffler inlet and outlet size is 2.5 inches. X & H pipes allowed.
The radiator must be correct for the year, make, model, and horsepower claimed. No lightweight, aluminum radiators allowed.
The camshaft must be correct for the year, model, and horsepower claimed for the type of lifter (hydraulic or solid). Roller cams NOT allowed. Duration at .050" lobe lift must be within 1% of factory specs. Lift at the valve must be within 2% of factory specs. Maximum stall limited to 2200 rpm.
The transmission must be correct for year, make, model and engine of the car. 3-speed manuals may be upgraded to the correct 4-speed if originally available.
The rear axle must be of the same manufacturer as the car. Any gear ratio is allowed.
Reproduction tires or radial tires only.You are allowed to run tires one size over stock.
Factory wheels only.
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Those Chargers are so f'in heavy holy crap
@@lovethesmellofracefuelinth7374 No... My 69 coronet r/t weighed in at 3796 without driver basically same car. Maybe thinking of duster.
@@rockyjonesspacecadet7089 light weight! My '68 impala weighs 4,260 without a driver...😆
@@musclebone7875 then you have a lot of extra shit in the trunk.... they don’t weigh that much or close
@@ztwntyn8 yes they do! I took mines to truck scale and I only had a few tools in the trunk...😆
@@musclebone7875 We have the torque to move these big boys.
70 Chevelle are going for crazy money right now. A 396ss auto column shift pulled in $150k at BJ this weekend!SS396 4speed convertible 300k. 454 LS6 4speed 300k!
Absolutely. I think it's cheaper to buy gold, diamonds or lear jets.
Nuts... I really wish I held out a bit longer selling my 70 about 6 years ago. It was a documented SS L78 auto on the column. Factory code 78 black cherry with white stripes. 90s restoration and had a 502 in it, I sold it for $25k I bought it in 2012 for 18k though. Probably worth 35-40 now
@@timbermansam omg my friend. The story of our lives. I had.. 73 charger, 73 challenger, 69 road runner, 74 duster, 69.5 bee. As they say, hindsight is always 20/20. sigh
@@timbermansam it would of been worth more with the original bb engine in it .
They are selling at those prices because the Older guys that can afford them have the money but are running out of time. I think the bottom will fall out on those prices within the next 20 - 25 years.
$25,000 for a Charger R/T in 1971, what a steal. A modern day Charger/Challenger R/T goes for double that and possibly then some.
That's imaginary. You couldn't TOUCH that car for 24 and change today,,, I know, its just an estimated inflationary bump from the 1971 price, but no one is letting a car of that calibre go for that little these days.
@@patrickwayne3701 Of course not, but it just shows the ridiculous prices of new cars vs. old cars adjusted for modern inflation fifty years later. The new models will probably not last fifty years with their overly complicated, malady plagued computers and sensors.
Nice battle! Both cars are wonderful!
Charger had the heavy AC unit and all the smog stuff and still ran great. Great race by both cars and great review of them .
Love the Charger!!!!😎👊👍🏻👌
This seemed like a pretty even race...these times seem pretty close to what they would run from back in the day. The Charger definitely a scale tipping heavyweight! 1971 was really the last real performance year , in the musclecar era..with a few exceptions. Always liked the '71 Chargers and Roadrunners/GTX..you don't see a lot of them around. The 396 was always a solid performer..even in 350 horse form...
The 72 Charger was still hot at 350 gross hp and so were the 73s and 74s. The 72 Charger 440 was rated at 350 gross and the 73 and 74s were 275 net and 375 torque. My 74 Charger Rallye 440 with a recurved distributor and rejetted carb pulling 3.55 gears through the torqueflite and a super tune ran 15.00 at 92 mph. My mph was close to this chargers 92.63 which meant we were running similar power. This charger seems really poorly setup to run that et unless he had traction problems.
Yes. These ET's are a lot closer to what pure stock muscle cars would run on stock tires back in the day.
Why everyone ALWAYS say the early 70s is the cutoff? Performance existed well into the '80s and '90s, though not in the same formula.
@@LITTLE1994 Yeah, from the early 70's through the 90's, there were a few notable performance exceptions...'73-'74 455 SD Trans Am, The Buick GN of the mid/late 80's , and the GMC Typhoon, GMC Syclone, maybe a couple of others..these were quick! But on the whole, most of the "performance" cars during this time weren't very quick, compared to the earlier era, as evidenced by comparing road tests, and quarter mile times...
@@LITTLE1994 It all depends on what you call performance. In the early 70's everybody sold performance cars. In 1975 catalytics were made mandatory and performance fell off the cliff. My friends 75 Corvette 350 put out 165 hp. A 78 King Cobra Mustang 2 with a 302 put out 139 hp. These cars were running 1/4 miles equivalent to school buses and farm trucks. In 1982 Ford came out with the GT and 176 hp which at least was a dim light at the end of the tunnel and things slowly got better but it was a long time before anyone was running even 15s. As well, the sheer number of varieties performance cars was never like 1970. Thats why 1970 was the high water mark.
Actually, by 1970, the "396" was 402 cu.in. in displacement. I know because I bought a used one that came out of a P/U truck. [Wink.] JMO.
When I saw the gear ratio for the beefy Charger I knew it wasn't going to end well for it. Both sweet cars though. Thanks for the vid.
Much thanks, C&Z! Miss the old format, but this style is cool, too. The cars do speak volumes, sans narration.
I just watched the movie, "Kodachrome" w/Ed Harris..very nostalgic/romantic. Recommended.
The '71 Mopes were better boulevard cruisers than ever and much more aerodynamic than the quicker late 60's cars. Maybe losing a second to say a '69 Super Bee, but hey..more comfy, more stable at speed & especially with gusty crosswinds on a hwy. My '71 Satellite w/a '75 440 hp mill was fabulous..so stable & slippery through the air..loved that car. The choices are out there..if you got the long green.
I love my current '70 Fury Gran Coupe, too, F8 green with a de-smogged '77 440 from a New Yorker..inc
'69 magnum ex. manis but that '71 B bod Satellite Sebring Plus was just sublime
nice race for both cars
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Actually the Chevy 396 was bored out to 402 cubic inches in 1970 but Chevy kept calling it a 396. The Dodge Charger was completely redesigned for 71 and is just beautiful. This is going to be a good race.
These must surely be closer examples to original, not exercising the class allowed rules (and note both had AC..I think I saw..... part of the reason for the porkiness). Nice cars. I can appreciate these as much as the serious dogs, judging they came out to have fun, even if not as fast/competitive by chasing the rules limitations.
That's my favorite style of Charger. I had a brochure back in the day and it folded out and I loved that shape in the side view.
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That was a pretty close race
Chevelle is my fav muscle car
I'd take either one of these cars.
Love the Dodge but i like the 2nd gen more!!! Are there any at the puré stock?
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I knew the Chevrolet would win in this case, but the Charger is still a beast. Though I perfer the '68-'70 model, the '71-'74 is still a mean looking Mopar.
You produce great work! I think I can speak for many that we miss the great narrative that used to go along with these videos. Some of the most entertaining available on CZcams. Hopefully, they didn’t censor you.
Thanks for posting these. I thought the green color was ugly back in the day and it's still ugly. These 2 cars are special. Perfect family rides. Just ugly color
That Charger R/T was a dog in the 70's. Super nice looking car though. Being a Michigan guy, I saw a lot of all of these cars on a regular basis. TBH, that Chevelle was doggy too.
no contest
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I thought the charger would win.
That' charger is a land yacht
If it was the 1968 or 1969 it would have. They had more compression and better heads in those years and they were a better motor then
Nothing worng with mopar but the l88 and the LS6 454 and the copo 427 and the zL1 is a whole different ball game I have seen plenty of 426 hemi had there door's blowing off them Buick GSX stage 1 455 will take care of a hemi not that I am saying a hemi slow they are not but they can be beat
Takes a mopar to catch a mopar
Or a 396 Chevelle, with a smaller engine. Good thing a 71 Boss 351 wasn't racing, would wipe the floor with both of these Big Blocks. C'mon Hal big ol 440 cubes of Mopar finest couldn't handle a 396 Chevelle, wasn't even the top dog 375 horse version.
Mopar Don't Go Far !!!
Surprised at the weight too, figuring with all that Chrysler Metal, should be lighter with all the hidden rust and rot. Mopar, Mostly Old Parts And Rust !!!
@@badass6.0powerstroke10 Think about it? Why would the car weigh more? You think people bought these because they were going to the track with it? It's not a 1/4 mile killer, it was Dodge's premium ride for the era. Got all the bells and whistles.
Just to clear up confusion, when you wanted a factory built car for the track, you bought the 68 RO and LO23 cars, 65 Factory Lightweight, 68/9 Roadrunner. So give up your Mopar jokes, when they wanted a car for a specific purpose, they did it better than GM or Ford ever could. And the proof is in the numbers, trophies, bans, sanctions, and legendary status they hold.
@@majestical5331 When did i ever say it was Dodges Top of the line Muscle Car ? You bringing up 65 Factory light weight drag cars, 68,69 roadrunners, and what ever else you saying. This is a 71 model year correct ? So it wasn't at the top of the line for 71 from the Mopar camp with the all mighty 440 big block ? I'm just pointing out the facts, nothing else. But in 71 Ford came out with a one year only Boss 351 that would eat up Mopar or GM Big Blocks, heck it was even faster than a 71 429 SCJ Mustang. Oh and just remember "Mopar Don't Go Far"
THIS CHARGER HAS THE WRONG COMPRESSION RATIO , REAR GEARS 3:23 VS. 3:31 , A 4:10 GEAR AND 10:1 OR 10.5 :1 THE RACE WOULD HAVE BEEN OVER !!! POWER TO WEIGHT VS. HORSEPOWER & TORQUE CURVE !!!! LS - 6 450 H.P. 13.5 SEC. A FULL SECOND FASTER THAN THE 396 , 1970 DODGE CHALLENGER 440 - 6 PACK 390 H.P. 12 .5 SEC . LIGHTER CAR THAN THE CHEVELLE !!!!
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@@jeremyrennersleftnut905 DROP THE CLUTCH , IN THE STREET !!!! MOPAR HAD THE SHIT !!!
What's your point? You are all over the map talking about this engine and that car etc. We are discussing these cars in this race! The 71 440 had a factory 10 to 1 CR and this car has a 9.7 to 1. Its running a 3.55 gear. The rules allow you 1.5 above factory CR. Chargers have never been known to be bullets in the 1/4 mile because they are heavy and also heavy in the front end which makes it poor for weight transfer. Also with the tire rules, a stump puller ass end results in a lot of tire spin. So going berserk with the gear ratios is not a great idea. The Chevelle has the 4 speed which gives it the extra legs through the traps. This Charger is lethargic no doubt about it. My 74 Charger rally with the 440 and torqueflite and 3.55s ran a best of 15 flat. So setup is really important. Some of these cars have incredible balancing and blueprinting done so their performance is far better than stock.
@@burningblue1254 KEEP GOING I'M ALL EARS ENSTEIN !!!!! IN 74 THEY ALREADY DROPPED THE COMPRESSION MAJORLY !!! IN 71 THE HEMI AND 440 SIX - PACK WERE THE ONLY 2 - ENGINES THAT RETAINED THEIR COMPRESSION RATIOS !!! RESPECT CHEVY AND FORD , BUT ITS MOPAR OR NOTHING , ALMOST 40 - YEARS NOW , BOUGHT MY FIRST 68 PLYMOUTH BIG BLOCK FOR 500.00 AND I USE TO WHINE THAT ONE UP IN FIRST GEAR TO ABOUT 70 !!!!! DO THAT WITH A POWERGLIDE !!!!
@@antoniohosino145 Sir, please take a pill. Listen closely. ok ready?
The factory 71 440 engine had a cr of 10 to 1. This particular car the youtuber says is 9.7 to 1. Why I don't know unless they are trying to run it on premium unleaded fuel on the street. Most of these cars bump their cr by 1.5 as allowed by the rules and run racing gas which gives them a considerable boost in power. In 1973 the 440 engine was detuned. My 74 had 8.5 cr, 275 net hp and 375 torque but with a recurved distributor and rejetted carb and a big etc, ran a 15 flat at 92 mph. So this 71 is running slow at 14.79 at 92.63. We are running close to the same trap speeds so my 74 is putting out similar power to this 71. If you are running 70 mph in first gear, you are either running a ridiculously high first gear or you are going to grenade the engine.
Maybe better driver to Dodge?
Ha Ha crappy Dodge.
It blows my mind that ANYONE could EVER love the look of those 1971-up Chargers and Roadrunner/GTX's. They are WITHOUT A DOUBT some of the UGLIEST vehicles ever made. Just straight-up TRASH. Whoever designed them should've been shot on the spot when he took that design to the bosses at Chrysler. For anyone who is unfamiliar with them...just go look at pictures of the 1970 Charger and 1970 Roadrunner/GTX and then compare those cars to pictures of the 1971 Charger and 1971 Charger/GTX. The 1970 models of BOTH (or I guess all three technically) cars are some of the best-looking muscle cars ever made. The 1970 Roadrunner/GTX is a particular favorite of mine, and I actually prefer the 1970 Charger over the 1969 model (although not the 1968).
The 1971 models...JUST ONE YEAR LATER...are some of the UGLIEST, most HIDEOUS pieces of sh!t ever made by ANY car manufacturer. Not only were they horrifically ugly, but they were fat, heavy, slow pieces of sh!t as well. I will never be able to get over the fact that the bosses at Chrysler saw the new design for 1971 and gave them the green light. I just have a hard time believing that there weren't AT LEAST 10 people along the way who looked at the concept drawings and/or prototypes and said "these turds are some of the ugliest vehicles I've ever seen in my life and if we go from the 1970 models to these things, we are going to tarnish the Charger and Roadrunner/GTX names forever". But I guess nobody ever did because they made these abominations. It hurts my eyes to see one of those hideous things next to that stunning 1970 Chevelle SS...I feel like I should be holding up a crucifix and throwing Holy Water at it. Or perhaps just lighting them all on fire would solve the problem.
You don't like them, that leaves more for me, and I'm good with that!
The chargers kept getting uglier and the Chevelles kept getting nicer, till the new chargers, that's ugly!!!