Protein is not protein. Here's why
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*Correction: I misspoke in the voiceover.
At 3:00, I say a study "found that children *not eating meat*, a high quality protein, were 3cm shorter...," but I should have said "children not eating *animal sourced foods.*"
Vegetarians did not suffer the same detriments to height or bone mineral density as vegans. (Hence, onscreen you see that I only highlighted " vegans were shorter..." ) I tried to soften my words and phrase this in a way that didn't sound like an attack on vegans, but by using the phrasing "not eating meat," I unfortunately included vegetarians as well. Pardon the error.
In any case, this result shouldn't be that surprising considering as discussed at 6:52, milk and eggs are high quality proteins that vegetarians would be consuming.
Navigation:
00:00 - Why is protein not protein?
1:26 - People don’t get enough “utilizable” protein
3:12 - Different proteins, different amino acids.
4:17 - Plant Based Film “The Game Changers”
4:58 - You probably need more protein than you think.
6:16 - Even athletes can miss their protein target
7:34 - Why 18g of protein is not 18g of protein.
9:12 - The amino acid for building muscle
9:56 - Kids need high quality protein
11:39 - Why is this topic even important?
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Height is pronounced "heit"
Veganism will cause brain damage.
how do you have a diaas score of >100%?
@@DumbledoreMcCracken I've been saying it "hëgt" this whole time... why didn't anyone tell me sooner...
@@siddoo6778 It's to account for the fact that protein sources with scores above 100 can complement protein with low scores. See the milk and cereal example. Note that 100g of a 114% DIAAS protein does not mean 114g of utilizable protein. It's still 100.
Reminds me of a saying in the bodybuilding community: you aren’t what you eat. You are what you absorb.
Frank Zane said that!
@@Nickpaintbrush one of my favourite body builders!
Damn, that's great
thats right. get your turkesterone pills now.
@@darklight6921 :P
You will get your protein from bugs, and you will be happy.
That's nice to know
Can't wait for the Great Reset.
Lol
Long live WEF 🤣
Get in the pod, it's for your protection
I find it odd that we talk about protein as if it's a monoculture when there are so many types. Breaking it down into the separate amino acids makes far more sense. We totally need to have it on the labels.
Considering the completeness and balance of proteins a next level activity.
@@peterpan408 "next level activity."
Actually, it's a past activity. ...based on the outdated science Joseph is spreading.
Some kind of do, if they add an amino acid they may add it on the ingredients at least. While looking into better shampoos and other things I came across one shampoo bar, "modern mammals" brand, they list Brassicyl Valinate Esylate, which is a lipid derived from the valine amino acid.
I think it's because for the vast majority of our history, protein meant animal based products and they have a more balanced distribution of what nutrients make up the protein. So you were getting all the amino acids needed in a balanced manor. Now that people are looking to change where we traditionally looked to get our protein from we need to change how we suggest the requirement.
@@chrismitchell6478 "traditionally look to get protein" isn't a universal thing. A number of ancient cultures have long been vegetarian, so they wouldn't be getting protein from animal flesh.
I am 66. I used to be overweight, and was plagued by several chronic health conditions for decades. I began intermittent fasting aggressively by eating just one big meal per day about two years ago. I cut out sugars, all highly processed junk 'foods' and drastically reduced the carb intake. I have been preparing everything i have eaten from fresh real foods, mostly local organic, non GMO veggies and locally raised free range meat and dairy products.
In the first two months, i lost about 60 pounds of excess fluids and body fat, and soon after that i began reversing every chronic health condition i had for decades, and all without any increase in daily exercise or activity. But now i do exercise more. I am healthier and stronger than i was ten years ago. It is like aging in reverse! I use no pharmaceutical products - prescribed or over the counter for any reason whatsoever. My best wishes to you on your own journey to better health and well being!
Excellent. Well done. In regards to dairy; Do you drink milk? And if so, is it organic, raw and unpasteurised? Thanks
@@theselector4733 Thank you! I used to drink a lot of milk, but haven't used much of it for years now. All i use these days is small amounts of half and half produced by a local farmer in my daily two cups of morning coffee. I do consume cheese pretty much every day. The cheese is usually either goat cheese or cheese made from raw cow milk, and all of it from local dairy farmers.
That is amazing! I should do what you did😀👏🏻
@@abigaillee1229 I really believe you can. If i can do it, i believe that almost anybody can. My best wishes to you on your journey to better health and well being!
@@tonyprice2256 Thank you so much!
Normal human being: - "Not all proteins are made equal"
CZcamsr: -"Protein is not protein"
A CZcamsr is a unique form of human where he serves to appease the click bait algorithm gods
I could simply replace meat everytime he said plants and it's not complete for functioning humans either 😕
That that is is that that is not.
A CZcamsr is not a CZcamsr
@@str8jenn.nochaser What does meat lack when it comes to a functioning human's protein needs?
I feel there needs to be a better breakdown of recommended protein per body weight, because it makes a difference if someone is at 40% body fat vs 10-15% body fat.
Well, it depends on your goals. But more protein is almost always better, despite having different goals. Protein is a positive partioning food, and will keep you more satiated.
I heard somewhere, If you wanna gain muscle, you need to ingest 1 gram of protein per 1lb of body weight. So if youre 150lbs, you need to ingest 150grams.
basically that number is for the "average" american, or wherever it is published. having fat doesn't increase ur protein requirements (unless its being burned for energy because u're starving). so basically adjust that amount by the avg body fat. get a number that is X protein per lean muscle mass and hope u can estimate ur body fat accuractely.
that being said, i aim for 1g per 1lb of lean body weight as a "bodybuilder" not really, i just like going to the gym and lifting heavy weights. im like 6'0 93kg with a flexed 6 pack so im guessing i'm around 13-15% bodyfat so i aim for like 175g of protein
The recommended protein per body weight is of course based on lean body weight.
Because not everyone can easily measure their lean body mass, the rules of thumb are generally given based on what you can read from a step scale, but the actual science is based on lean body mass, which is much harder to measure. You can of course make estimates based on BMI and height to waist ratio as to how much body fat you have and adjust numbers accordingly, but if I'm being honest, so long as you're not pounding nothing but protein powder, it is very hard to consume too much protein.
Whenever hearing about the latest nutritional study it is always worth finding out who funded it. Nutritional studies have been described by more than one scientist as the lowest form of science. There have been too many researchers who have been bought by the big food conglomerates. General Mills, Post, and Kellogs fund a lot of the research and they ain't paying for anything that does not reflect well on their products. The history of research over the last 40-50 years is not entirely kosher.
Currently the vegan industry has the most venture capital investment.
@@cherubin7thsource? That seems questionable but I'm curious at the same time
Source is I made it up
100% agree
All the animal agriculture big names have poured a lot into studies as well. Same with energy drink companies like powerade & gatorade. It REALLY matters who the study was funded by. Any study that has a conflict of interest in the funding should just be thrown out, any conclusions from such a study are just too sus.
You can also combine different types of proteins to generate a higher amino acid synthesis. For example, pasta + salmon. There more types of protein the higher likelihood of prolamine being formed.
** I see that that was added into this video.
Rice/beans, but that's not animal so it's ignored even though it's one of the most widely eaten complete proteins in the world. Instead he talked about white bread/peanut butter.
@@jasondashneyeven though it's complete like pbj. Still not that high dias
Eggs+potatoes for example are a great Combo If you dont eat meat
@jasondashney yeah he dosen t combine eggs with vegetables for example still talking about vegetarian diet not vegan but talks about bread with peanut butter... everybody knows that peanut butter sandwich is not the best source of protein
I recently saw Dr Paul Mason point out a study where people eating oysters absorbed less zinc from the oysters when combined with black beans or corn, as opposed to oysters on their own. How nutrient absorption goes down with food combinations was news to me - and I think a very important discussion point for another video.
This topic got covered by WIL in "Why is Nutrition Science so Complicated?" 2 years ago. You should go check it out.
@@Odesawaan thanks! I forgot! I watched that when it came out, but it's been a while!
oppsite is also true. Most of meats negative health effect disappear when cooked and consumed with thoroughly cooked veggies
@@NadeemAhmed-nv2br What negative health effects exactly?
@@NadeemAhmed-nv2br ‘meats negative health affects’ lmao that’s a myth
It would be great to see a list of the complimentary amino acids that would combine to increase the effectiveness, such as peanut butter combined with milk
a lot of common staple combinations actually create a complete protein, such as rice and beans. it's probably why humans have combined these two types of foods throughout every culture
There are NO combinations that replace meat. Key amino acids of methionine and cysteine are only readily absorbed from cooked meat, and no supplement will replace them.
@@CookinginRussia The reason for asking is that meat may become scarce
@@theyrekrnations8990 - There are 26 BILLION chickens alone. The only way protein would be scarce is if you are too broke to afford it.
@@CookinginRussia I sure do hope you're right
this is so, so, soooo interesting! thank you for breaking this complex topic down in such an understable way! amazing content!!
Some sold out Greek influencer to Diogenes:
"If you would only learned to praise the ruler, you wouldn't have to only eat lentils."
Diogenes: "But if you would only learned to live on lentils, you wouldn't have to kiss the rulers' asses."
2 people that clearly have different priorities.
Learning about bioavailability completely changed the way I thought about food. As somebody who is from a culture that never eats green leafy vegetables without thoroughly cooking it down, it was always wierd to see people from the western hemisphere eat leafy green raw or barely blanched....After learning about bioavailability, I have started to appreciate a lot of such traditional cooking and combinations because they were all enhancing bioavailability...like cooking down green, fermentation of fiber rich veggies, using spices like turmeric and blackpepper in combination, intake of turmeric with some kind of fatty product like fatty fish or milk or red meat soups or stocks, tempering of spices in oil which increases the bioavailability of a lot of beneficial substances, certain high carb- low protein combination for better tryptophan bioavailability...
Wow I appreciate my mom's cooking and my cultural foods more now
But is there a link between western diets and athleticism? Can you recall the last time our country won Olympic gold? Our country is consistently at the bottom. We must have the worst performance when you consider our country has 1 billion people.
@@juicingfactor1463 That ignores a TON of other factors like:
Free time
Extra money
Leisure facilities
Cultural importance of athleticism
Funding from the government or other groups
Access to qualified trainers/supervisors
And many more
the truth is modern western science is primitive. It just has better PR and bigger guns.
@@juicingfactor1463 respect for looking at it that unbiased. It is very tasty though,I love your food. But I believe that also came out of necessity, to make rather poor quality proteins equally palatable.
I’ve been trying to find a video about this for so long. Thank you, king❤️
This video feels like we are back to what we thought of protein 10+ years back.
If you're using studies paid for by animal agriculture as your research, that's what you get.
@@sulphuricaciduk vegan spotted
@@AravindKumar-lj7kx don't needa be vegan to acknowledge how far this goes.
@@AravindKumar-lj7kx vegan/unhealthy human* spotted.
@@Anton-rs8uo alright you got us. On the other hand, how could you not? Every one minutes a vegan dies from protein deficiency. Quick maths. Not that hard.
Now I desperately want the DIIAS score and/or individual amino acid amounts on all my food labels. I feel like without having them on the label, it's near to impossible for every day, ordinary people to make informed decisions on how they will get their protein. I hate how complicated nutrition is, I wish it was simple. Every time I hear something like this I get more discouraged and worried that I'll never be eating the right food for my body and that no matter how hard I try there will always be something I'm not getting enough of. And with severe depression and anxiety, I always end up wondering if the cause could be from my diet. But as someone who isn't a scientist, I feel there will never be a way for me to tell. :(
You dont need to track aminos as long as You get some animal prpducylts and your total gramature is big (2g per kg of bodyweight)
Maybe have a couple of eggs and some milk every day and then vary the other protein between beef, pork, chicken and fish.
Even it would be nice to show the DIAS on the packaging it’s not that difficult to search for the top quality food sources of protein and build a diet around them. People have to (or should ) make his own decisions and not wait for daddy government to step in.
Lmao. You have severe depression and anxiety
I understand this, it’s very difficult to contemplate. My uneducated perspective would be to try to fast for a few days or so to give the body time to heal and reset, and then slowly begin adding healthy foods into your diet, no sugary sweets, and see how it reacts and go from there. I’m personally trying it also for mental health. We’re all doing our best, I believe if we keep faith I ourselves we’ll eventually figure it our. Hope all works out for you.
I am vegetarian. Veggeterians should be conscious not only of B12 but also of protein intake. The things i do to solve for low bioavailability is drinking a whey protein shake daily on top of the point where you hit your macros. Eating multiple types of food together as described. Additionally BCAA's powder which you can add to say your protein shake which has specific amino acids.
Something I've heard mentioned that i didn't see covered here is if there is a limit to how much protein your body can use when ingested in one sitting. There is some discussion that weather multiple protein meals are better than consuming all at once.
I think you should be eating all of those together if your body can consume limited amount of it.
author Solon-Biet found that "although BCAAs exert muscle-building benefits, excessive intake may reduce lifespan, increase appetite, lead to weight gain and have a negative impact on mood."Jul 21, 2021
By consuming the protein from the eggs or the meat as in the example of the calories, you would still need to consume extra calories from other foods to complete your other macros and vitamin and mineral requirements. At the end there wouldn’t be a huge difference in the amount of calories. You can’t eat only protein, you need a bunch of other nutrients.
Also many other things like omega 3 and other essential things in mest
@@vishnupriya4551300-500 grams of multi grain flour Bread, 75 grams of protein from chicken, 50 grams from beef , 25 grams from Yogurt or milk, 3 whole eggs+ 5 egg white , 100 grams of nuts and seeds and some fruits & vegetables is more than enough for any goal .. you can replace some protein with fish if you want
Also remember the DIAAS is calculated on the nutritional requirements of 0.5 - 3.0 year old children. The values for older children (the method uses 3 years + as the top end) are much easier to hit. So a DIAAS for 3+ years on soy or pea is actually north of 100. Things like rice and peanuts and wheat are still lower, but not as much as for the younger requirements. There is also potential for DIAAS on
Not 0.5-3 year old children, 0.5-3 year old pigs.
Appreciate the added context. I had a suspicion when this vid got recommended to me that there was some missing info.
Interestingly mother's milk contains 1.1% protein. Cabbage contains 1.2%.
interestingly the DIAAS for the infant age age for cabbage would be 0.25 showing 1/4 of the amino acids required by infants, so for every gram of protein from breast milk they would have to consume 4grams of protein from cabbage. @@raytry69
Thanks for including me in the video. I’m glad the information was helpful!
Sir you approve this guy?
@@naturelpowerliftingbrucewa7124 I can guess and say most probably not.
@@naturelpowerliftingbrucewa7124 Approve this guy? Isn't that kind of a silly statement? Why are we approving a whole person based on a protein video? Wouldn't a better question be, "Do you approve the information and conclusions as presented in this video? Edit: Layne Norton has also shat on the Game Changers documentary for similar reasons as included in this video
@@EhurtAfy yea that might be better statement
Of course! Appreciated you bringing some pertinent points to the Game Changers discussion
I'm missing a lot of stuff here. I've gone through your transcript and you don't have sources for a lot of claims you make. Additionally, some of your references come from a journal called "Animal frontiers" which is published with money from a variety of meat stakeholders such as the "American meat science association". These references therefore have limited credibility. In addition, I'm missing the perspective on *health outcomes* of certain protein types or proteins with differing composition, you instead focus on what you should be consuming according to some metric and guidelines. To this end, interesting science is being performed on protein restriction and health outcomes. You should definitely dive into that.
Exactly.
I like this response
No heart to this obviously. He is just a kid who likes meat too much.
Thank you for bringing this perspective. It all sounded very one sided and biased towards meat consumption.
Lol your response seems heavily biased, protein restriction being healthy makes no sense at all. Having studied physiology and biology protein as a macronutrient is essentially the only required macro we need exogenously as our bodies have no processes to convert anything to amino acids
Finally a new video! You're a gem of youtube.
Thanks for the vid man! I always explain it to my friends that have diet issues. Now I can just share the video.
It's very surprising quinoa wasn't mentioned as it has all the essential amino acids.
I love quinoa but it does have a lot of carbs (not that it detracts from what you are saying).
It is not a matter of only amino acid profile but also of bioavailability in general.
Its tends to be low on leucine, the one for muscle growth.
@@jamesdagmond but you can eat another thing together, no that hard to get leucine from vegetables
No it doesn’t . Only animal proteins have all the essential proteins. No vegetables do.
Oof. I mean, 80% of the protein content in milk is casein (not well-absorbed), whereas only 20% is whey.
And then you have to remember that, while researchers aren't happy about stating it, they still do (vaguely) say that processed milk deteriorates the nutritional "outcome/absorption".
Milk is not a great source of anything, due to its cons outweighing its pros (since it can easily be replaced by better sources of nutrition). Milk, for adults, is a snack.
My university is sponsored by the biggest milk producers, and so are plenty of other universities and research institutions, hence, you get corrupted research studies, which naïve people swallow up immediately.
When you work in STEM-related fields, especially closely related to the food and medicine industries, you start to realise how right Veritasium's video is about falsified (useless) studies.
can you explain further what you meant by casein not being well absorbed....aside from it being a slow digesting protein/protein source which is already common knowledge...thank you
@@vanguardas9927
First of all: What is concluded from ALL the studies I have read (except very few), is that whey protein ends up with the highest total amino acid concentration profile, after complete digestion. While I would have to study a bit more, and take different research approaches, I am willing to claim that structural differences as well as the body being suboptimal at dealing with the slow digestion rate of casein proteins, are some of the key factors that impair the overall absorption.
Next, bovine milk has two problematic subgroups of casein, which are either present in very low concentrations in human milk, or completely void in human breast milk. We will refer to these as alpha(s1) and alpha(s2). These proteins (primarily alpha(s1)) are commonly purported to cause gradual malabsorption (lactose intolerance). It is rather hard to gather useful information, directly from milk-related studies, since the authors either claim no conflict of interest, or claim no conflict of interest after stating that their study was sponsored by a party, which would definitely have a conflict of interest.
Lastly, I would suggest that if you do venture on a self-research trip, then, rather than going for studies related to the milk industry, a fundamental approach may be more appropriate, although it may be more theoretical.
@@vanguardas9927 My first answer to your comment is completely incomplete, which I'm aware of. If you want a fulfilling answer, I suggest that you research it. It would take too much time for me to formulate a proper explanation, but you can, at the very least, take the conclusion from the majority of the available studies, and then add a bit of source criticism to it.
@@setsu2221 No, thanks for taking the time to reply. I'm not a medical professional so I don't won't understand a really deep explanation.
I mostly use Whey and Soy protein, but I ordered Casein to try it out. What I don't understand is if milk protein is 80% casein and 20% whey, why is Whey so much cheaper than Casein? ((as well as being more available as a supplement in the market)
@@vanguardas9927 the answer to that question is actually quite simple. Whey is a waste product (from other processes that require milk), which is repurposed to give it value. And whey just so happens to be rather easy to precipitate and separate from the liquid waste product, making it easy to profit from the process.
Fantastic video. Very clear with the graphics etc, and well explained.
About that 1.2-1.6g of protein per kg of bodyweight:
Are they talking about lean mass or just your plain bodyweight? And are they taking the protein quality into account? Depending on these questions, you will come up with wildly different numbers.
I always wondered about this.. because it makes no sense to take in fat mass for this calculation, why would my fat storage need protein?? So that could explain why there are some people who just work out a lot and still gain muscle because the recommendations are a myth to make us buy products
Yeah that would be messed up if your eating like 400 grams of protein every day😅
@@houseoffirebellytoads1439 your fat storage needs protein so that the body can replace the fat with muscles.
@@amanthatthinks lol, it doesn't work like that.
1,6 is for average Joes with almost no muscle and 18% BF.
Someone bulking can easily double that number and they usually have ~10% BF.
Your fat storages need caloric deficit.
That's not how it works...@@amanthatthinks
That's why my nutritionist made it a point to discuss the difference between protein and complete protein. For example, hummus has protein from the chickpeas, but including a whole grain pita pocket makes it a complete protein. It's important to understand the difference before embarking on a diet plan.
I never understood why we there's an x number of required protein people try to meet. I'm from an Indian vegetarian family and our traditional diet is mostly carbs(rice and wheat) and veggies with a glass or two of milk and a cup(cooked) of lentils. So we do have some protein but typically, it's around 30 odd grams. When i look at my extended family, many have lived well into their 80s without any major health issues. There are a couple of overweight people and one with arthritis who needed knee replacement but otherwise, i don't see a major protein link with health unless it's like less than 10 or 15 grams.
Or you could just eat a stake
@@Swapna9 Totally agree! Not everyone needs to have a biceps bigger than one's head. Actually, I remember in a gym those "big guys" could not take off their shirts off. Really quite funny.
@@adolfhipsteryolocaust3443 would that be a wooden stake?
@@Swapna9 bodydysmorphia, it's like a mental illness when you're not happy with your body even when your body is healthy.
I need like 200g of protein per day for maximum muscle growth, I can't hit it. I can hit half the amount that I need.
Whey protein is easiest but very expensive.
I think your channel is the one I truly appreciate the most of on the entirety of YT. All the work put into research, graphics and actually presenting the quotes. Just fantastic. Keep it up!
Agree agree agree. His video on *keto changed my life. *fasting
You know it is a biased cherry picked view right?
@@zephyrlibs youre cherry picked and biased
I strongly agree with this statement.
@@zephyrlibs he literally provided proof. Where's the cherry picking
What a G for putting the add at the very end😆💯
Your video is very well made! I have two questions for you.
How much of hemp seed protein powder do you need to match the amino content of 25 g of whey protein?
How much of collagen protein powder do you need to match the amino content of 25 g of whey protein?
You need to look up the lowest particular amino acid in each protein source that you're comparing. Whatever that is, that will be the maximum observable amount in that particular protein source.
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One question that immediately surfaces... Was the 50g of protein requirement derived before the knowledge about protein quality came about? That would mean that the daily value of protein would be set higher artificially and would need to be reevaluated. It would also mean that most people would likely incidentally meat this requirement without major dietary changes.
I also question if the newer study that raised the minimum daily value of protein also considered protein quality.
protein quality is understood far before we knew what protein is.
try eating kg of watermelon
or kg of beef.
how satiated do you feel and for how long?
@ᴄᴏᴠᴏɪᴅ • 13 years ago then eat 1000 calories of beef. And try eating 1000 calories of watermelons
@ᴄᴏᴠᴏɪᴅ • 13 years ago ok legumes. Eat 1000 calories of legumes. And compare with 1000 calories of beef.
No
Pointless question. 50g requirement came out when meat, fish, and eggs were considered the only main sources of protein.
When you research something you should always check your resources and who is paying them. Always follow the money. From one perspective everything you said seems legit, but from the other it looks like advertisement for the meat industry. This industry did a lot of shady and also illegal things so I would like to know if they're somrhow involved in the studies.
I guarantee you these studies are funded by the meat industry
it's just basic science
@@PhotoBomber it depends on who's paying. I'm not saying this video is automatically false, but science can be biased or silenced especialy when it comes to money. So don't just blindly believe in everything you see. As I said, meat industry is dirty business.
@@noID457 funding doesn't determine if something is true or not. Interested parties will fund research but that doesn't mean that the funding influenced the study.
As someone said, this is just basic science.
@@Crazycorn2 interesting how studies funded by tabacco companies always downplayed or straight up refuted the fact it causes cancer. Interesting how studies funded by milk companies say that it’s a great source of protein and calcium when neither of those are true. And how studies funded by meat industries always say that meat is the best way to get protein in your diet, doesn’t actually cause obesity or cancer, and is a vital part the human diet. Even though throughout history meat was a very small part of the vast majority of cultures.
It doesn’t make it false guaranteed. But looking at what these company funded studies have been like historically, I just straight up don’t trust them, independent studies are the way to go.
I seriously love videos talking about bioavailability in foods. In my food processing courses, we're still focused on cooking foods as a way to preserve them and make them taste better, but I won't get to this topic probably until graduate school, and it is driving me insane. Like, I don't have all of the background food science info yet, and I know that I need it, but these topics are so interesting. Definitely sending this to one of my professors, he loves these kinds of videos.
Ok chill nerd 😂
Did your professor comment on it?
Great vid! Thank you!❤️
Thank you for making a video about this. Bioavailability seems to be one of the biggest misconceptions about nutrition.
Does this take into account the different capabilities of different blood types, ex dr dadamo's blood type diet?
But this suggest an impractical comparison of two foods? You need to understand that the total we eat in a day is what matters, not only one to one comparison of foods
Especially since the same is also true for a lot of micronutrients, e.g. Iron or Vitamin A.
@@christianarndt5341 Magnesium is such a culprit for that. Most magnesium supplements are magnesium oxide which is so poorly absorbed it's like nearly not even taking a supplement, especially compared to organic sources like magnesium citrate.
Was thinking the same thing as himan! The different forms of magnesium have different bioavailability and it makes sense that this would apply to other things
When was the last time you saw someone with health complications because of "protein deficiency" in the developed world?
That was me 8 yrs ago
@@matematicarka The only cases I've seen are because the person has an eating disorder
But we get obesity and diabetic problems
What does protein deficiency look like?
@@Crazycorn2 have you seen kids in africa with extremly bloated bellies? thats what it looks like. doesnt happen in the western world, WIL is a quack
Very useful. Thank you for making this video.
Putting the amino acid profiles on food labels would be amazing but I feel like it wouldn’t also be a little much for the label. I know most protein powders don’t even display amino acid contents which is quite sad to see.
I disagree that it would be too much. People dont have to read it if they do not want to. But it might also get people to learn that it really does matter if they see it every time. Sadly most people dont even pay attention to the nutritional labels on food
I take a vegan protein powder that focused on getting the right amino acids balance, its called Silverback protein.
In your 2nd video, can you say something about the drop off in processing protein with age? I wonder if there are reference ranges at different age groups and what protein consumption from animal and non animal would look like. Great work as usual.
Research anabolic resistance of muscle protein synthesis
@@davidsalvador6031 there's this, but there's also a matter of reduction in absorption of nutrients in the aging people, I don't remember if it affects proteins but I'd expect it to
Yup, plan to talk about the elderly requiring more.
This👆
@@WhatIveLearned Can you also look at the role of gut-biome in protein digestion? I wonder if/how supplementing your gut biome with probiotics positively, negatively or negligibly, effects absorption of protein.
I take every thing Arnold has to say with a grain of salt because any time he talks about it if leaves out the fact that he was jacked up on steroids. You don't get that big naturally.
Steroid users still require food and workout to gain mass. They can't create muscle out of thin air.
Then do similar for Layne Norton because he's also jacked up on roids.
This is B.S. i did an experiment I used to eat 200 grams of protein a day as a bodybuilder. Got my arms up to 17 inches and my chest up to 48 inches at 5 8" and 184 lbs.I decided to see what would happen if I ate half that much for a month. 100 grams. I LOST NO MUSCLE. The protein myth is perpetuated by the meat and dairy industries and the supplement companies to keep the money coming.
Putting the ads at the end goated CZcamsr
Such a great report.
I think it’s also worth considering the fact that people don’t eat enough protein because they eat too many processed carbs. Think just about how many cheeseburgers the lambda person eats. When you eat a cheeseburger you end up eating more bread than actual meat/protein. Same goes if you look at snacks, all carb
A mcdo cheeseburger patty is 45g
Ya, I had to think how overfed Americans (except for maybe the poor) could possibly be low on protein?
Junk food.
If you live near an In-N-Out burger restaurant you can specify if you want a protein style burger. They will replace the buns with lettuce, so less carbs.
@@quintessenceSL a lot of the poor still eat fastfood cause they dont know basic math and dont understand that cooking at home costs less
Seed oil in the diet is a bigger issue than carbohydrate. If we were to eliminate seed oil from the standard diet, people would naturally consume far more protein.
In many cultures there are specific vegan combos - like: lentils+rice, or corn+beans
Just thought it's interesting :)
Btw - there are websites that you can just check (once monthly or yearly, no need for daily) your micronutrients including essential amino acids. I personally like cronometer.
Both are low on DIAAS
@@tauceti8341 but combined they are a complete protein
@@tauceti8341 That's the point - DIAAS doesn't matter. 1. It is based on Pigs and not humans (and uncooked food) 2. Scientists learned a while ago that you need to look at ALL of the food that a person eats thoughout the entire day (and not just a single meal, and definitely not just a single food item). 3. It has a built in massive flaw in its design. See the following illustrative example - Imagine two cases:
Case A - Your food contains twice of each of the recommended amount of essential amino acids.
Case B - Your food contains everything that Case A contains, PLUS more of one specific amino acid.
In both cases, the human body will utilize exactly the same amount of amino acids, but in case B it will get rid of the excessive amino acid through the feces.
Case A will get a significantly higher score than B, despite providing exactly the same nutrition to the body.
There are even more significant flaws to the DIAAS metric, but the bottom line is that, like I mentioned in my comment, you can simply track your micronutrients once per few months and be calm. It's SUPER easy to get A TON of complete protein on a vegan diet.
(Hint - you don't build your diet around "peanut butter sandwich" like the example that was shown in the video ;) )
Again - cronometer (I don't have any relation to them) makes this macro/micro tracking super easy and you can see it for yourself.
@@tauceti8341 I don't eat lentils only in 1 day, I eat multiple foods. Get your facts right
@Tau Ceti DIAAS has it's limitations.
Excellent video thank you. This has so much data and quality references.
I just took things from like the game changers video at face value without realizing it
Sounds like you didn't check the references for all the studies and research in Game Changer
If you don't mind me asking. How do you calculate how much you need. Like beef lets say. it has a score of 111%. So would I divide the amount of protein I need by 1.11 or no?
No. The percent means that the protein contains a higher amount of essential amino acids than required for a score of 100%. In other words, you can consume that protein with a lower-score protein to increase the absorption of the lower-quality protein.
I've been lifting weights for years. I abided by the calories in / calories out / macros in / macros out mantra and found it to be useful. However, only until I started eating more home cooked and whole foods like chicken breast, eggs, red meat and fish did I find myself recovering better and developing a better body.
So you basically grew a brain and read a couole things.
@@RagingRugbyst Bet his newly grown brain got a stroke after reading that...
;)
Such a inspiring story 10/10
@@rudnums1 The foods humans have been eating for the past 4.35 million years will not hurt us. Drop the sugar, starch and poly seed oils and you will not have to worry about strokes.
@@kayallen7603 exactly
This use to be called the protein bio availability index and the number was advertised on whey protein packaging.
not true, there where several quality measurements in past (BV was that Biological Value, but you could also find PER, AAS, from 1991 PDCAAS with several novelizations and from 2013 DIAAS)
watch Peter Ballerstedt's When Protein is NOT Protein
Levels USA gives a comprehensive breakdown.
Thank you! It seems to be a lot easier to find info about that than DIAAS.
And it is complete rubbish.
This is the kind of educational material that should have been in medical school/nursing school for the last several decades but wasn’t. I have a highly intelligent, educated aunt who’s got her Master’s in Nursing and decades of practical experience. She still maintains that a serving of yogurt is equivalent to an egg, that eggs have too much cholesterol, that having too much meat is what causes heart issues. Her sister, my other dear aunt, is almost two feet taller than first aunt and works as a physical therapist. They live together so they eat almost the same diet, but taller aunt ends up snacking on cookies etc. and I wish she’d add more protein/fat to her diet instead.
Years ago I was starting to lift weights and noticed that if I ate at least three eggs in the morning, I felt better in a day. Visiting a friend, she asked how many eggs? I told her three and she looked at me like I was nuts and said, ‘No.’ I had bought her groceries every other time I’d visited, it wasn’t about the expense, it was a fundamental belief that I was making an outrageous choice. She and I are not friends anymore for many reasons, but it was another mind-blowing event for me about how people can be convinced that one egg + potatoes is better than three eggs.
Thank you for this video, I wish I would have seen this sooner.
Putting the list of the ameno acids is smart and whould help people calculate their protein levels intakes
Don't need to count protein...no one in history has ever been diagnosed with low protein its a scam....look up death from low protein...it never happens....it's a fairy tale to sell protein powder and steak ....
@@michaelhoile1369 well u cant die from low protein but there are negative health benefits obviously. things like protein powder and steak and useful in building muscle. they are not essential though.
Hey, love your videos! You literally changed both my diet and my health, for the better! Can you do a video about plastics around our food? Microplastics, phenols and phthalates that leach from plastic around the food (plastic bags with anything really, or soups and meals in plastic packages, also tin cans which are lined with plastic, reusable plastic bottles, etc.)? I think this is very important due to their toxicity and endocrine effect. Thanks!
+1 for this
I would love to see this happen.
+1
Receipt paper (food service people have massively increased phthalate levels in their tissues)
"Triton" plastic water bottles
Cosmetics
Food storage containers... and many many other things
You can't escape it.
@@hakusnowninja Cosmetics are a very big one too, especially if they have scents.
Thank you very much man, I had no idea about this!
I love this channel, thank you
As a vegetarian, I've learned that you have to combine foods properly to get all the essential amino acids. Fortunately, most traditional menus offer the right combinations to get the full set.
You don't have to change your eating habits much.
I don‘t know how balanced the combination of acids is though. I need to check that out.
Do you eat things like cheese and eggs? From what I’ve seen, dairy products will have you pretty well covered. It can be hard to manage calories with the cheese though haha
If you're vegetarian, cant you just change all your diet to eggs and milk only? You'd still be within its bounds of rules and be healthy.
It works because I've done this on my carnivore diet when I was hiking. Eggs all week round had no adverse effects except getting bored of only eating eggs.
@@sarahs.7419 Yes. Pasta with cheese. Rice with beans, potatoes with eggs or cheese. Yogurt with cereals, ....
You really don't have to reinvent cooking to be a vegetarian. Then, as a vegetarian, you usually automatically add more vegetables. I usually with olive oil as Italian.
Calories I try to manage through movement or augment the vegi part. But still working on that ....
@@kerosj9975 I think our body is very robust and it takes a long time until you have advers effects from a onesided diet. I also did once a no keto diet as vegetarian. Was very effective for loosing weight, but felt very unnatural.
The point is that to build up all possible proteins there are 9 amino acids, the body cannot produce itself and must come through food. Meat (and soy beans) has all of them. Cheese and milk not.
But different amino acids have different roles, depending on the proteins you need for a specific task. If you want to build muscles, you need a different cocktail as when you need to heal a wound or grow or just maintain the body. The film here pretended a bit that you always need the same cocktail, taken the one from meat. I think, that is an extreme oversimplification.
If you have to calculate it and keep constant watch, then for sure it is not a diet of our ancestors.
They could not mix 10 different foods, keep track of B12 etc.
This feeds into my biases very well... Automatically accepting data... :)
My skin is not my own
This man has awakened
i'm vegan ty for saying the quiet part out loud
As a Mexican, I was ahead by a lifetime.
@@gregoryallen0001 That's joke and fit for vegan bias as well.
Thank you for existing!
Great video ! Are there any resources to access the DIAAS score of certain foods ?
Thank you for the effort in your videos brother
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Could you also do a video on "is all sugar the same"? Like this vid but with sugars. Cause there's quite alot of different sugars
Actually the chemical for of many differnt sugars is exactly the same
@@adolfhipsteryolocaust3443 Processed and refined sugars are unbelievably unhealthy for you.
There really aren't that many types of sugars. There is fructose, glucose and galactose. And then there are sugars that are just some combination of those molecules. Other than some minor differences in the digestion process all sugars are pretty much functionally identical from a nutrition standpoint.
@@nerdstrangler4804 Well there's the monosaccharides you listed but there's also disaccharides and polysaccarides. Really more studies are needed from what I have seen, there isn't too much broad research and usually they just focus on Stevia which is found to be inconsequential to your health (for now).
@@XrayTheMyth23 Right, like i said "and then there are sugars that are some combination of those molecules" aka di and poly saccharides. Which just get broken down into those 3 base molecules anyway.
Stevia isn't a sugar, he was asking about different types of sugar. Obviously non-nutritive sweeteners are very different from actual sugars.
But actual sugars are pretty basic and not much different from one another. Other than maybe lactose because some people lack the enzyme to break it down. But I figured most people probably already know about that.
Awesome video. I suspect many of our modern day health problems link to the protein issue.
Badass video! I've been looking for this
So it doesn’t really matter if we get less of a specific amino acid from plants or not. What matters is that we meet our daily need for each amino acid (which is likely different for each amino acid)
I would love a video that explained the difference in each amino acid and the daily recommendations. Then it would be possible to craft an appropriate diet.
I'm not so sure about that. I know (or maybe I should say that I think I know) that for muscle repair/hypertrophy to occur, all 20 of the so-called "essential amino acids" must be present and available simultaneously. I would assume this is true for other tissue repair and maintenance as well.
There is a reason why bodybuilders and strength athletes are all about those meat and eggs.
@@hunterbidensaidslesion1356 but some Olympic athletes follow a vegetalian diet too, so it’s a very interesting topic
@@hunterbidensaidslesion1356 I body build and I have eggs once or twice a week. Its all about Yogurts, Chicken, Whey, Rice and Spinach now.
@@hunterbidensaidslesion1356 Yes that's an important point our bodies can't just store excess aminoacids to be used later. There are 9 aminoacids your body absolutely needs to build new tissues and if even one is missing then nothing is getting done, the other 8 just end up turned into glucose, if you get that missing one a few hours later it's too late.
Our guts are also smarter than most people think and the ratios and digestibility of the aminoacids affect metabolism. We know that our bodies preferentially digest branched chain aminoacids so they always go in first, and leucine in particular is used as a trigger for protein synthesis. Leucine goes in first, starts up the process and then as the other aminoacids go in they start being used to build new proteins, if the others are digested first and leucine later it doesn't have the same effect.
Yep. That's the point that this video/creator fails to admit/understand. Also the fact that all of the dairy and meat research is heavily influenced by the meat and dairy industry lol. Basically not useful info
As for someone who’s also stuck in Japan while Netflix littraly stops providing subtitles half way through shows, the last part hits hard😭
Great video. Glad I found it.
Another fun fact: the protein absorption of raw and cooked eggs is extremely different! You would only absorb 50% of the protein of raw eggs
What about cooked
@@Ahmad-os3si51%
Uncooked egg whites bind to biotin in the body which can make one deficient in it if not supplementing well for that B vitamin.
What about half cook? like sunny side?
@@TT-fv5ro where are you getting that from ? DIAAS of boiled was shown in the video to be 113%. Highest of all protein sources but you're writing 51%
OMG they just tried to say that eating a peanut butter and jelly sandwich is the same as eating a steak
😂 maybe the whole jar
Very useful to understand that getting an incomplete set of amino acids such that they're out of balance results in anything above the lowest level where it all balances, gets turned into energy and burned for fuel, and affects blood sugar, which in turn affects weight gain as it is then turned into fat, as your insulin level is increased to store it away and cut down blood sugar.
Appreciate the info! Now I gotta figure out how to manage the correct foods to get my protein intake in a healthy way, along with accounting for only 70% of the protein will be absorbed due to the 30% being used for energy to digest the food.
Fantastic video. Another excellent quality documentary of another side of Cuba 🇨🇺
There might be one flaw in the argumentation of this video, that would make the whole reasoning collapse.
I have watched 'less meat won't save this planet' from this channel when it came out. I was astonished by the findings.
Yet short after that a reaction video by nutritionist Niko Rittenau, two ecological scientists as well as a german writer was recommended to me. Those comprehensibly showed many mistakes in WIL's reasoning and methods, which I as a non professional in this field could never have seen.
So I place some distrust in this videos reasoning, especially since one method that's quite unscientific is used again. That can also be recognized by me.
He's just citing a bunch of studies and not giving a broad view into the field.
Working scientifically means looking at all the evidence there is. All the studies out there, not just a bunch of them. If you're looking for a handful of studies to present the case you want to make you can always find them.
To get into it, I downloaded the script and looked over the studies.
27 are listed.
Not a usual amount of them for a paper, but still decent.
Yet you can rule many of them out for refering only to methods that do not contribute to the argument itself.
After that there are not so much left anymore.
That quite severly weakens the foundation.
Now I'm not saying that WIL is misleading. But in context of the flawed reasonings in the environmental video I would take into consideration the possibility tht he might be biased or not properly educated in scientific methodology.
But first of all I'll have a cup of tea and wait for whether there will be some well reasoned methodical stable responses to this.
I'm not knowledgeable about this page, but I don't think it touts itself as one that is performing scientific research, which it sounds like is what you're expecting. I'm sure you can find a scholarly meta analysis to read on the topic, but nobody is putting that on CZcams because they're long, complicated, and dry.
You're making this all complicated and with many complex words but I don't see you're making any conclusions or any objective facts that against meat is much more viable as protein than vegetables proteins.
I just saw that the expert his citates, Peter Ballerstedt, is also likely biased. He is an expert in animal nutrition, working for a grasseed company. So he is directly benefiting from people eating more diary products and beef. On his own website he states that his "expertise" in nutrition comes from his own experience. His is not a trained nutritionist and never worked scientifically in the field of human nutrition. Again, that's like the "experts" from his less meat video, who happened to be a professor working in animal nutrition and getting grants from beef companies, not a trained environmentalist or climate expert, which you would need to access such a complex topic as the impact on animals on the environment and the climate.
Very much this! After watching both of these videos which seemed, heavily biased to say the least, I'm starting to become really sceptical if this really is the wholesome information-sharing that it makes itself out to be, or if it's just serving an agenda. I recommend everyone watching these videos look into these topics and sources with a critical eye.
@@CarnivalBox heavily agree. I realised this because I was well informed about the topics before watching the videos, so I could spot out the really one-sided view on the topics. This channel wants to look like an objective source of information about various topics, but especially with the recent videos about nutrition I get the impression it's one guy following his own agenda and making videos in a way, that they just fit his own agenda and pre-defined believes.
It seems very odd to me that we need the same quantity of all the amino-acids.
I have no expertise whatsover in relation to the subjects, just wandering based on the info provided by the video.
Also aren't the amino acids 20 (based on what I remeber from school ages ago).
Is it a simplification for educational purposes?
Different types of protein contain different proportions of aminoacids. However, the important role of Lys in promoting skeletal muscle growth has already been demonstrated in animal husbandry, and this effect was attributed to increased protein synthesis. So in terms of muscle growth, the lack of lys seems to work as a limiting factor. And yes, there are 20 aminoacids; 9 we get from diet and 11 our body is capable to produce.
@@leonardomatsumoto737 Thanks for the extra info! :)
It's obviously not a video you should take seriously.
@@walterbrownstone8017 I've also been reading into the information this video gives. Whats your take on it, saying that one should not take it seriously?
@@DrSeuss-lx1gf Certainly chewing your food increases your ability to absorb nutrients. It makes it more digestible. Making your food more digestible alone would have the equivalent effect as wasting your money on expensive meats. You'll only see a slight increase in muscle mass if you're a pro bodybuilder. Everyone else won't even notice. Try it yourself. Keep your calories from animals under 5% and see if you slowly shrivel up and die.
If you want to quick and easy protein boost in your diet, Greek yogurt, or even better Skyr yogurt for breakfast (I have it with muesli).
Great video, thanks!
If the majority of the world aren't getting "enough" protein yet they're surviving and existing just fine... then why is the bar for protein intake set so high? You've said about 100 times that it's not "enough" protein or amino acids; you've not provided any reason that this is an issue. This seems like a valid question to at least include a BASIC answer for in this video.
It's not like you are instantly dropping dead if you lack nutritients. You are less resilient to injury and need longer recovery (and have a higher chance of lasting damage), more susceptible to illness and experience more deterioration with age.
And if you have kids they are also probably less healthy because the quality of your sperm suffers.
Basically it's about the long-term effects.
In the old time , people eat meat only once in a while as it is expensive and rare. Eating meat every day seems excessive and indeed it doesn’t tell why is it required so much
People died a lot earlier back then…
@@VC-oo2mi haahahahahahahaa
This isn't about surviving but how well, he pointed out at various points things such as less bone strength, lower muscle development from insufficient quality or quantity of protein. It defenitley seems like theres nothing about it that compells you to do it but it is an improved quality of life for sure. This is my interpretation at least after listening.
I actually spent around two hours to watch the reference video twice before this one came out, and remembering less than watching this video. Great work!!!
You already spent two hours, wouldn't it be easier to remember by now?
I like Dr McDougall’s saying”I’ve never seen a single case of someone diagnosed with protein deficiency.”
Then he's a fool. Protein deficiency is a huge factor in hair loss. Huge. It happened to me. I found out that I wasn't eating even one-fourth of the amount of protein that I need. I did that for years, not having any idea. I lost half my hair and got weaker and weaker. I thought I was dying, but it turned out that I just wasn't eating enough protein.
@@edennis8578this likely means your diet was just processed to all hell, or you weren't getting enough calories in general, or both. Hair loss is also very associated with anorexia and other low calorie eating disorders.
What McDougal says, when you follow his work further, is he's never seen someone who meets their calorie requirements have a protein deficiency. It's VERY hard to not consume enough protein if you're hitting your calories and not exclusively eating limited processed foods.
Another possibility is the very rare medical conditions which make it more difficult for a person to absorb protein, but that's not a reflection on the protein in food and thus should not influence the recommendations for the average person.
There are so many bald people who eat 200 grams of protein a day
@@OdinsSagewrong. I went vegan when I was 14. Im a Latina girl and I had a full head of hair. I started to get sick and lost so much hair. I quit being vegan. I’m 21 now and I still haven’t recovered my hair loss:( I tried so hard to still get protein in different ways. I ate meat all my life and still will
@@OdinsSageI ate so much fruit veggies took protein power I did everything healthy and it didn’t work. 3 years later all I would eat is Mexican food and it was the healthiest I’ve ever been
This is very informative. I had never heard about diass before.
Its all about rounding out your diet and understanding the differences so you can supplement where necessary
It also depends on your goals and your activity level. An athlete will need far more different macros than a couch-sitter.
@@bentuck7929 absolutely
I mean you don’t only eat lentils …
You eat lentils with rice
Or peanut butter with bread
I mean you get all the amino acids you need from this combination
Also if you hit your daily protein requirements for optimal muscle growth the source content of leucine does not matter
He said about combinations in the vid with more details
For real, many people back in the day (particularly in the south in regards to the USA) lived on diets consisting of at least 75% beans and rice and did just fine.
@@Travybear1989 Do you really think southerners are just fine? 🤭
Excellent video. Thank you
That’s why since childhood, I fed my son with a protein shake every morning and he is now the tallest among other children at his school.
Commerical brand spotted. 😂
You think it was the protein shakes? Ever heard of genetics? LOL
Love the video and it is easy to follow along with.
Can you mind including some links in the description for the research papers you referenced in the videos, please?
Apologies if it is linked somewhere and I've just glossed over it.
When I worked in a cattle nutrition lab we looked at amino acid contents in various ingredients from an environmental impact lens as well - if you can find a more efficient balance of AAs instead of just upping protein content in feeds, the cows will excrete less waste. This is something the pork industry already has down pretty well as you mentioned but still a work in progress for other livestock, especially dairy cattle which usually need higher energy feed sources compared to beef animals (just like breastfeeding moms need more nutrients).
Dairy funded studies btw. This guy is heavily biased and mislead.
That's interesting, Bee. Could I DM you on twitter or instagram to ask a quick question on that?
I'm @jeverett.whativelearned on instagram and @JEverettLearned on twitter
@@joenervlus3239 haha i just asked this. im glad i was right on the money, nothing but propaganda
@@joenervlus3239 ikr 😂😂😂 classic annoying dairy industry
@@joenervlus3239 To be fair if you can point me to a SINGLE objective diet in the world that compares a high meat and high fiber diet with another diet, and that other diet trumps the high meat and high fiber diet , I would love to see that research. I doubt you will be able to forward it to me, because it doesn't exist.
where are the research papers you're referring to? I'd like to read them.
I'd like to see you do a follow-up video of absorbability by age - (older folks digest proteins poorly, in general.) Using your current breakdowns, but adding age groups.
(I do well with eggs and venison, and I'm getting into my later 60s.)
great video! 💪😎
ok
9:00 you are assuming that the body needs the different amino acids in the same amounts. So for example the amino acid you assume to be low could actually be enough if the body needs less of it than other acids
Im new, on this protein intake as a nutritionist diet recommendation, im shocked how expensive protein powders are, and i want to replace this spent and look to other sources, as a veterinarian. Yeah im aware of quality and quantity protein, you got me on that with your video, often very normal to ignore this topic. Thanks for sharing this info, now i got more foundation of what i believe in.
I enjoyed this and learned a lot
People's ability to absorb nutrients from foods varies tremendously. In fact the same person eating the same food also varies tremendously depending on their age, what else they have eaten, what they have been eating, the time of day they eat, and so many variables that it is complex beyond the ability of anyone to quantify in any accurate manner.
This being the case, and it is, one of the more significant factors is the make-up of an individuals microbiome. The microbiome varies so much depending upon another host of factors that scientists are continuously amazed by the degree of variation among people, peoples, and within an individual. For instance a person who is on a carnivore diet will be amazingly deficient in the ability to absorb nutrients from vegetables in comparison to someone who is omnivorous and even more in comparison to someone who has been vegetarian for years. It is tempting to make simplistic assumptions and they almost always end up being incorrect or at least seriously skewed regarding reality. But hey, that apparently is what CZcams and social media in general is all about.
protein quality means its generally absorbed better...
I’ve seen this “but not all” fallacy again and again. Science doesn’t always work in absolutes but I see this “not all” fallacy used as a reason to disregard hard science people don’t agree with.
@@kdhoward83 and to help invent/hype/wildly inflate a need for various flavors of “customized” nutrition. This same insidious mindset could be argued in the way genetic markers that demonstrate higher propensities for various conditions (take tour pick) under adverse conditions are trotted out to sell the idea that genetics (aka “nature”) is causal for everything under the sun in our declining health, vs the countless toxic pillars of the modern lifestyle (aka “nurture”) peddled by charlatans who’s primary profit center broadly speaking is ignorance.
@@kdhoward83 video itself states protien quality matters in some countries where where they eat lot of protien and not in ones that hardly make it to mark... one of the most imp part of your digestive system is the microbiome... may be do more research next time...
The answer, especially in bio-sciences is: "Well... It depends...""
I would appreciate if you had interviewed doctors and nutritionists who advocate the healthy vegan diet and hear what they have to say. I would also like to know about the credibility of the studies you are referring to; who sponsored the study and are there any possibilities of bias?
Basically you can look everything up and vet it yourself.
Have a look at the studies online, especially at the letest ones. What he's talking about is not entirely true and you can be perfectly fine on a vegan diet. I feel like this film is very biased.
Yeah I agree this reeks of bro culture against veganism lol
Look in his notes for links.
@@Mara-qo2uh especially the bit against meatless mondays in NY. one meatless meal a week isn't going to make these kids protein deficient. And, also, our body has ways of converting some amino acids to others, so getting all amino acids strictly from our diet is unnecessary.
The food labels should have the different types of amino acids listed on the product but here's what I do. In the morning whether I workout or not I always have a protein shake with various fruits and veggies. I use pomegranates, blueberries, acavados, pineapples and strawberries. For veggies peas, kale and spinach Along with protein powders, BCAA powders (which list which amino acids that's in it), beet powder and I take a multivitamin. For lunch I'll have oatmeal and hard boiled eggs or steak, egg whites and spinach with cheese sprinkled on them...dinner I'll have quinoa rice, broccoli, cauliflower, cut up chicken brest or I mix it up and just make a cheeseburger, with swiss cheese, lettuce and spinach and whole grain bun, with sweet potato fries (air fried). I usually eat the same meals almost every night I switch it up here and there...but this is what works for me. Sometimes I'll skip a meal. I also weigh my food and i have a food tracker app..so I eat 50grams of protein with each meal. I snack on nuts and fruit if I get hungry in between meals. I usually eat a grapefruit...and I'll feel full for a long period of time.
Funnily enough, if you mix lentil stew with the chunks of lentils along with (in Bangladesh we call it "Ghono Daal") rice any kind of it, you'll improve the quality of protein for both lentil and rice. Meat still is preffered along with it for a balanced diet.
Would be interesting to know what the diets were of those from the original study that resulted in the 50g protein recommendation, more specifically what foods they ate to get the 50g of protein
I saw a vid once, it discovered that a lot of nutritional requirements are not even made by Food and drugs, or Health Orgs, but the farmers or resources dept to make the unknowing civilians to purchase more and more
I was wondering this as well. The video starts out as though this was a fact, but does not back it up well in the video or via links in description. 50 grams is a lot. So much so that he goes on to show most of the world isn't meeting that benchmark. Makes me question/sceptical of it.
@@Infinite_Curiosity00 50 grams really isnt a lot
@@correctionguy7632 I looked up and to get 50 grams of protein you need like 5 oz of chicken breast, which is quite a chunk
@@Yana-tf1he is it still too much if you split it into breakfast, lunch and dinner?
I would also like to see a video on the benefits of vegetarian options. Not that either is more preferred (perhaps for some people), but I'd like to get a broad view on both sides, meat and veggies and how they may Benefit each other if they do.
Lay off the soy and it may come to you why there is not.
Vegetarian diet gives a pretty well ego boost for some people, that’s about it.
Reading this while eating a steak
@@johndoeradiok that's ironic for someone with that much ego in one comment.
@@gauravnegi4312 Indeed. Not to mention that the vegan choice is literally ALL about caring about much more than just one's own taste buds :)
Thanks man for important information
Overcounting protein in plants is why I hate food labels right now.
I have a question. How can a protein source has a DIAAS score of above 100% digestability?