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VZ Commodore No Go, Just Clicking
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- čas přidán 6. 02. 2023
- This VZ Commodore has been towed into the workshop with a no start condition.
Listen carefully - can you hear that click when you try and start it? That is a real clue.
What is the fault? Watch and see!
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Thanks you so much this is exactly what I was looking for
Glad I could help. Keep an eye out for other videos that you might enjoy! 😉
great vid max ,
Rob
Nowra
NSW
Cheers Mate, thanks 😊
Great job Max, I love your show. Thanks.
Thanks for watching!
Hi MM, always appreciate your thorough diagnosis and explanations.
Did you get the new pico for xmas?
Nah, had it for a while now. I have a diagnostic centre build video up at some point to put up, so stay tuned!
Yes, I love my Pico! 😍
Covered the basics very well. A surprising number of starter motor failures are a result of heat damage to the solenoid causing high current draw and the inability of the solenoid to engage the starter motor.
Hey Colin,
Spot on. This would have been a solenoid issue, but due the the amount of kilometres, I suggested a replacement starter. Due to the high voltage drop, the pull-in coil wouldn't have been able to activate the solenoid & also supply voltage to the motor itself.
Excellent video, however VZ V6 Starter motor will come out the top. No need to go under the car. Remove 3 torx screws/bolts on exhaust shroud. Remove 1 torx screw on starter motor shroud. Pull starter motor shroud out towards front of engine and jiggle out completely. Undo 11mm bolts with ratchet socket. Pull out starter. Take off two wires. 15 minute job if you are lucky. Took me an hour because previous owner had stripped one of the torx bolts on exhaust shroud.
Good information - thanks for sharing! 👍
Clear information.👍 Especially visualizing the current flow with the scope.
That reference to Eric O was unexpected!😂
Thanks. I find the scope invaluable with diagnosis.
Yup, Eric O is a legend! 😉😁
I know your pain on replacing the starter motor, just changed mine last week after a load of swearing and bleeding knuckles.
Not fun, eh?
@@MiracleMAX so true 😂
As an old can driver first thing I would have done was cranked the Motor by hand a little bit just in case it was stuck. Second thing I would have hit the starter motor with a hammer, while someone turning the key that would tell very quickly if you start a motor's stuffed. Cheers Graham.
Yes Graham, there are a few different options. Of course, hitting it with a hammer generally will help with brush contact and occasionally a sticky solenoid. Turning the motor by hand will turn the engine itself, but unless the starter is accidently still engaged for some reason, will not turn the starter motor itself. These use a pre-engaged starter motor.
With my testing procedures, I try and show the different options to help others, not necessarily what I do in the field.
Thanks for your comment.
bit late to the party but i was interested to know what was wrong with the starter itself, where you can hear it extending/clicking into place when you turn the key, but not rotating- is it easily fixable? or just has to be replaced? like in the case where you can start it, but it takes a couple tries as above, what exactly is wrong with the thing? i understand if u don't have time or inclination to answer this, i appreciate your time all the same :) just wondering if there's any avoiding replacing it
Good question. As stated, if the starter motor (the motor itself) draws too much current, that means that the motor is mechanically worn (bushes or brushes)
czcams.com/video/hIy4p_Pkbug/video.html
In our case, after doing the voltage drop test, it showed the solenoid connection was faulty. czcams.com/video/hIy4p_Pkbug/video.html
Yes, I could have just replaced the solenoid, but for the price of a new starter (complete), compared to me replacing the solenoid only is not worth it. Factor into that the age of the starter & labour costs involved, the customer decided to go with a full starter motor.
Thanks for your comment. 😉
thank you kindly @@MiracleMAX :)
Hello my friend how are you? I am from Saudi Arabia. I have SIM car I need help how to find the ground line place in the engine or body please if you can help tell me.
Hey alxsandr blan,
Greetings from Australia!
So that I can help you, can you tell me what a SIM car is? Are you looking where the ground from the battery to the engine and chassis are?
I think he means "same" car
Hey max, my 2006 SVZ VZ is showing error code u2108 (CAN-Bus No Communication with ABS/TC/ESP)
I have searched forums it seems like many people have received this code, but no one seemed to solved it on the forums. Could you assist?
Sure. Just a few questions. Is the check engine or ABS lights on the dash? Are the fault codes listed as 'Present or Current'? Do the codes come back after clearing? Have all fuses and relays been tested?
Hey where are you located I need same job done for my vz
NSW
You can Email me for more details at miraclemax3@hotmail.com
i have same problem and more than this problem the petrol dash and engine temp dash not working and the cruis and the ac :(
Sounds like you have your work cut out for you! 🤔
@@MiracleMAX can i send the video to ur instagram?
@@full_metal_everything6929 Sure
@MiracleMAX i send the video and what i did🥲🥲
just replace my starter motor today with the same problems/symptoms
original starter motor 249,000 km replaced it with a genuine starter (mitsubishi)
Good timing then Sumpoiler!
This vehicle had done over 230,000 & possibly the original starter.
Thanks for your comment 👍
@@krystal5887 Yes, I did use an aftermarket starter.
@@krystal5887 well if the original has done 249,000 KM in 16 years the replacement will see the car out
1:25 Ret ret what does that man?
Ret Ret means me using pretend arrows, pointing in the direction of the ignition switch 😁😉🤣😎
@@MiracleMAX Ahhh hahah, I thought I was missing some insiders secret, cheers mate :-)
@@JohnSmith-wb6kq Nah, just my strange way of describing things 😉🤔🤣
Hey max great info
Have you got any fixes for the stiff accelerator pedal on the v6 VZ commodore please??
Cheers
Hey John,
If yours is an APP (Accelerator Pedal Position) sensor, it will have 2 carbon tracks that tend to wear, but you might also find that it is mechanically sticky on the pedal pivot point. Not sure how much access you have to it, but you may have to remove it, lubricate it and then reinstall it.
Heavy click of solinoide and self not moving mean issue with self
Not quite sure I understand, but if the solenoid clicks, that means that it is getting power to the solenoid, however, voltage should be checked there to make sure there are no voltage drops.