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I like that Kit Harrington is just socially condemned to being called an idiot for the rest of his life (not that I don't like him, its just a hilarious thing thats gonna follow him and all his characters forever, all because of GOT)
I know right and the poor guy did nothing wrong ^^
Funniest part is he married Ygritte’s actress..
@@RyanBright-wg1yk Rose Leslie, yeah
Imagine the alpha liked hiccup cause he knows he was the one who found him and saved him 😅😂
He probably sensed it or something like that
Wait. Is an alpha the one he foud first in the book. I never read it but my friend told me about it.
@@inugi idk about the book but in the dragon riders series in Netflix he finds one and I pretty sure it dies and takes the egg to put it in a save place which then his mom took in after
I thought that still do
i don't know how fast a dragon grows, let alone, a bewilderbeast (the alpha) but Race to the Edge took place within a year before HTTYD 2. I don't think that they can grow that fast
Also, Valka lived there with the dragons for twenty years and she told Hiccup that it built he dragon sanctuary for them,
Meaning that that particular bewilderbeat is at least 20 years old, if not older
the egg that Hiccup found might well be a bewilderbeast egg, just not THAT particular one
Valka's alpha probably sensed that Hiccup saved one of it's eggs
The egg looked like Frozen/Winter dragon fruit lmao
Hahahha
Nah a dragon fruit
To me it looked like a white one piece devil fruit
no the egg belongs to a different female Bewilderbeast
Ikr
that egg is NOT valka's alpha, she said that cloudjumper took her to the king of dragons, and that was 20years ago, and when hiccup found the egg he was 18-19, and in the second film he was 20, i dont think a dragon can grow to that size in 1-2years
PLUS she already had her Bewilderbeast inspired armor in that clip!
Yea
Plus in that clip they said they knew somebody (Valka) that KNEW SAFE PLACE for the egg, she most likely never kept the egg.
Yeah that what I said
That egg was the alphas egg but the weird thing is that in the show the same alpha that is in the movie actually appears and the egg means that even tho one died that there is still another good alpha out there
Except the egg did NOT hatch into the Good Alpha, you actually see the Good Alpha after Valka gets the egg, also Valka has been with the Alpha since Cloudjumper took her.
Well when valka got the egg it was the same egg from race tk the edge because they take a very long time to hatch and in that time period before jt hatched valka saved it to it still is the good alpha cause you gotta remeber that slot of dragons that are like the bewierderbeast or are jt take many years to hatch
@superdinoholt2956 the second movie takes place a year after rtte. The good alpha was probably centuries old Valka was taken. You can see Valka was already wearing her armor. Meaning she's already been living with him for a long time now
That Alpha has probably been alive for hundreds of years
yeah, that means the good alpha was the one who saved hiccup in the caves, and the egg was his child. shame the only continuity between rtte and the movies is hiccup’s sword, as valka should still technically be nursing the egg and caring for the newborn alpha in canon.
@Amityz72323 The good alpha and the Berserker Island one are two different bewilderbeasts
To clarify about the alpha, First of all I’m just explaining because he misunderstood, second Remember from the race to the edge at the two last episodes that the alpha dragon/Bewilderbeast has a red mark/scar on its right eye(from our perspective) then at the HTTYD2 the Alpha dragon/Bewilderbeast has the SAME RED SCAR ON IT, third is that the Bewilderbeast egg shown in RTTE has to fully grow in like probably 20-30 YEARS.
I’m not done yet I still have questions on why Valka took the egg, how did she even manage to bring a Bewilderbeast that big with her and will there be a second Bewilderbeast?
Edit: Oh dear what have I done also thanks for the likes
I don't think i understand your questions.
1. Why, to help the egg obviously. She just found an unknown egg in the middle of nowhere. Also she might have had contact with the wingmaidens in some way?
2. You mean Valka's Bewilderbeast? He was already there when she got there. Cloudjumper took her to him. At least i think that's been said in the movie when she gave the backstory. And to how it got inside the ice nest. He build the nest around himself but there must be a underwater entrance so that it can go in and out.
With the scar on the face i never noticed that detail, next time i watch Rtte and Httyd 2 i will take a closer look. I was hoping there would be a new Bewilderbeast. Since they are born so rarely. It would be cool to get to know them more.
I was always curious about that, the egg being valkas bewilderbeast cause that means it grew to maturity and of that magnitude in less than 2 years
like what
See me personally I don't think we will ever see that bewilderbeast egg grow or ever be brought back because of the way the franchise has gone *cough* the nine realms and httyd 3-. Httyd 3 was such a weird ending that personally I don't think makes sense. 1. The reason the dragons left was because the people didn't want the dragons to be liable to be trapped... but they defeated Grim which the creators show was the world's best trapper....but they defeated him so wouldn't their main threat be gone? We've seen that berk is more than capable of taking down entire dragon trapper organisations with ease (httyd 2 and rtte). 2. There are still other threats to everyone in the series that just played Minor roles despite they're importance (the Eastern hunters). Even if Grim was gone they'd still be trapping dragons- could've been a way for them to continue the series and brought a whole new vibe to the series. Its not like Hiccup and the riders themselves had to be doing it either. It could've been they're children who continue doing what their parents did but oh well
@@sonofthesearolin they just decided to work with the rest of the world and completely ruined it. Your idea is great. Their kids, or just a few generations in the future, could have done something somewhere else around the archipelago. They could have introuduced new cultrues in a natural way. Maybe even a touch on how can different cultures influence each other, but it would still be it's own world.
I'am pulling this out of the blue right now
@@kajamaja7148 exactly but instead they decided to release the nine realms which just doesn't make sense to me. It's a shame really. The franchise was strong and could've still gone on stronger but now we are left with what we got. Honestly tempted to just make a httyd sandbox mmo myself at this point 😂
It's heavily implied that the good Bewilderbeast already existed when Valka was taken 20 years before HTTYD 2, I find it highly unlikely that it was still an egg just a year before that movie, then grew to its full adult size in just a year.
Belch after seeing this: "Yo Barf! I FOUND OUR LONG LOST BROTHER!!!!!!"
LMAO
Is everyone forgetting that she said she lived along side the alpa for 20 years
I love the details in the movie of:
1 - a vague reference to another show entirely
2 - a clip from the tv show and not the movie (and also chronologically not possible as the Bewilder beast met Valka some 15 years before the FIRST httyd movie).
3 - also not in the movie... it's a name that's never mentioned, and a terrible joke at best
It was also implied, due to one line, that Gobber was gay
Actually, it’s been long confirmed!! :) As of HTTYD2, it was confirmed that he never married due to another man never marrying, a very huge hint that they were either together, or that they weren’t but gobber wished they had been.
There’s also scenes in which he essentially hits on Eret lol
I DID NOT KNOW THAT I'LL LOOK INTO IT LMAO
@@TayClipss It happens in the second movie, when Stoic and Gobber discover that Stoic's wife is still alive. Gobber says he never got married, because he couldn't find the right person... and for another reason
Yeah I've looked into it I'll include it in the next video
Yeah but he also says he loved a woman called Bertha so that’s not true he has to be bi, plus I wouldn’t count on what the directors say since most of it causes plot holes
I recently gave birth n only now did i understand that Hickup was a premee baby which caused me to cry so much
What's a premee baby?
@@John.SharptoothA baby that was born months before its due date
@@John.Sharptooth"Premee" or "premature" birth
How'd you figure that?
In Viking times, premee babies or premature babies were “runts”. They would be left on a mountain or cliff to die, often as offerings to gods/goddesses.
In the books, Hiccup was a runt. He was supposed to be sacrificed, but his mother convinced his father not to let him die.
Theres also a theory that Gibber might be gay in his line "This is why I never married.. That and one other reason."
Yes I believe this is actually canon. And that he had a crush on Stoick which is why he behaves a little bit obsessive after Stoick dies (in the snoggletog aftermovie)
Or he embarrassed himself on a date with a lady
@@ccthedemoncat3104 BTW it's Gobber
Bruh I guess it's free for imagination but judging by how many of his parts are missing one would guess he's suggesting his penis is well uh let's say it's not quite there, writers love to make these adult references which only adults will understand in kid movies
That cannot be the Alpha in the series to movie.
It would probably take years for it to grow that big.
And its been at most 2 years after the series finale
Yes I know I meant that the alpha hatched from that kind of egg not specifically that one sorry for the misunderstanding..
there were 2 alphas that was the mother
Ah but if you watch the episode that hiccup finds it he is told to leave it for someone else to protect and you see his mother get it.
@@gravegamer360yeah but I’m the dialogue you hear hiccup say that the wing maidens new someone who knew someone implying that valka gave the egg to someone else
Thats wat I was thinking cuz his mom said oh cloudjumper never meant to harm me he must have thought I belong here In the home of the grate bewilderbeast. So how could that be the same bewilderbeast? Cuz the egg was 1 to 2 years before the second movie and if cloud jumper took her to the bewilderbeast beast. So she must have putt the egg somewhere safe
No way that alpha grew up so fast. More likely the egg og the good alpha
Yall forgot, its a movie, they can time skip however long they want 😭
@@ItzKoifishThey can't. There was 1-2 years difference at most between httydrttb and httyd2. And for grow an alpha, need at least 60+ years
@@sandtheundermanmaybe alpha's grow up very fast? Idk
@@jaggyd2862 don't seeing logic in this. Dragons living MUUUUCH longer than humans, and same it take much more years to grow up. As human is stop being at teenager at 18+ , the dragon need like 180 years to do the same
@@sandtheundermanthe screaming death is a thing in the series so it’s not really out of the realm of possibilities
I thought that egg was Wiwaxia for a second,
That was kinda amusing
Damn httyd music hits DIFFERENT 🔥
The whole bewilderbeast egg is pretty much what sparked the “is RTTE even canon” debate in the community. Hiccup and the gang were about 19 at the end of RTTE, which means that egg would’ve had to fully mature into an adult within a single year. Another issue, Valka explicitly stated that Cloudjumper brought her to “the home of the great bewilderbeast”. And this would’ve been 20 years ago, which officially means that the ending of RTTE sadly doesn’t make sense.
They are still such beautifully written movies with stunning designs. HTTYD will always be a part of me.
Also, Gobber's full name is pretty well-known and is mentioned repeatedly in the books.
"Few people actually know his full name"
Unless they've read the books.
That burp must've been absolutely legendary if it earned him a title
Maybe he stumbled out of the mead hall and belched so loudly it either scared some tiny dragons or it itself sounded like a dragon's roar
Springer should be in tf 2 or 3
I LOVE HOW TO TRAIN YOUR DRAGON SO MUCH!
“trolls are real! They steal your socks, but only the left ones; what’s with that?”
Then DreamWorks made TrollHunters AND Trolls (a lot later but still kinda funny to me😂)
@@NightfurySkrill_JoelTrollHunters goated show series
@@eggbertvonchickeniii Criminally underrated
Well done keep it up
You can even see valka in the last episode in rtte it such a great background scene before the second movie. I love it
For those who weren't attentive in Race to The Edge series. You can LITERALLY see the movie Alpha protecting the egg.
Race to the edge with my favorite show for such a long time. I had watched all the films before, and then race to the edge, but I loved seeing where the alpha came from
If you watched the movie in hungarian language, they actually call him by his full name all the time. Like in many other language to except english.
I didn't know about that it is actually interesting
@@TayClipss Yeah. Only in english they say just one part of the name. But i heard it in German, Russian, Japanese, Hungarian, Check, Romanian, Italian, Polski and Finnish, and all of them says almost the full or entirely the full name. Only in english they call him by first part of his name. Or the second, not sure right now. But every other language call him by the full name. :)
That's weird but for English viewers I thought it might be interesting to know
@@TayClipss no, you cool you cool! If you live in America, and actually never cared about other language, what true on most of the pops, are a pretty interesting fact.
No actually I'm French but never watched the film in Hungarian..
Also in Rave to the Edge the last episode, Hiccup says that Atali (idk how to spell her bame) knew someone who would take care of the bewilderbeast. It then shows Hiccups mom dancing behind the egg!
So hiccup is older than the bewilderbeast. Which also means, due to the timeline, that’s not as big as a bewilderbeast can get. Leviathans can always grow until a certain age. They are at their biggest at 100 years. That bewilderbeast was only 20.
Nah, they just messed up the time line at the end of Race to the edge. Hiccup is 19 when he finds the bewilderbeast egg, and he's 20 in the second movie which means only 1 year passed, so even if the egg hatched right away the bewilderbeast could only be 1 years old. I honestly believe they just wanted to add a big httyd2 reference to the show without caring about the consequences cause it really just doesn't make sense in any way. Since a bewilderbeast was already there when Valka was taken, it just simply cannot be the one from the egg, which brings me to the conclusion that something happened to it or Valka gave it away.
It actually wouldn't make any sense because Valka says Cloudjumper brought her to the home of the bewilderbeast
@@wolfsinclair its said that she gave it away. The wingmaidens knew someone who knew someone
I noticed that the red death(big dragon)only came out after they throw the fire ball cause i think it landed on him and thats why he got so aggressive
I like the idea but also remember that the red death is a girl?
This is awesome
Gobbler is also immortal in my opinion because he was alive when stock was a kid and lived with him the entire time. Then he has done the same for hiccup
I still love the "the king of dragons laid an egg?" Line
Anyone else hoping for a live action HTTYD?
iirc, the events of RTTE are not considered canon, because they create a lot of inconsistencies with the movies. The Bewilderbeast egg from RTTE is not Valka's Bewilderbeast from HTTYD 2, as Valka's Bewilderbeast was already an adult protecting the Dragon Sanctuary when Valka got there 20 years prior to HTTYD 2, and it also thus cannot be the one under Berserker Island. The egg also isn't Drago's Bewilderbeast, as Drago's Bewilderbeast is also an adult and a Titan Wing, and dragons need much more than 2-3 years to become Titan Wing dragons. Drago did find his Bewilderbeast when it was a baby and basically tortured it to listen to him only.
In the first place, the last season of RTTE was added belatedly by Netflix (or last two, not sure), and in terms of timeline would happen at the same time as the events from HTTYD 2 (iirc).
All issues relating to inconsistencies created by RTTE are explained in the Fandom Wiki of HTTYD (including the Bewilderbeast egg, timeline issues, Hiccstrid in RTTE become a thing in season 3 or 4 even though one of the things in the conclusion of HTTYD 1 was that Hiccup "got the girl" so they should have been a couple right from the start of the Dreamworks Dragons series (which is Riders of Berk, even before RTTE), etc.).
Valka is the one who took the egg.
Cloudjumper took her to the bewilderbeast after which she started rescuing and protecting dragons.
The egg and bewilderbeast are different ones.
The bad alpha was most likely the parent alpha, captures and tortured by Drago
“Gobb-ler” !!!
Yaaaay, I like when likeable girlboss character references unlikeable mary sue girlboss, empowering
I love how dragon eggs in media always have scales somehow, its funny how it does not make any sense. But hey, dragons i guess
Did you know when hicup breaths, it is a reference to how humans need oxygen
That one egg be having horns 😭 hope the one who laid it is fine
Belch is a term used for somone who buckets water out of a sinking ship
I already noticed the detail of the egg from race to the Edge and when I watched all of that show, it's actually the events before the 2nd movie
i already knew most of these, im a httyd fan- a big one
The music is just brilliant for httyd
If you would use your ear you would know that the good Alpha has been there for more than 20 years
I wish they would have added “in the last episode of how to train your dragon the series hiccup says that the wing maidens knew someone who knew someone, then we see a strange masked character take the egg. It was Valka. Just a small detail I wanted to see :>
I didn't know the first one but that's because I never seen it but I knew the outer ones because I watch all of them many times a year
I love light fury❤
Fun fact: The screaming death that hiccup faced was a baby... Allmost newly born...
Please do the second & third one as well
Haha I always knew it was Gobber the Belch
I knew the egg one but not the other 2, I’ve rewatched race to the edge like 100 times 😂
And the bad alpha was apparently the one under the berserkers island. I wonder if that’s why we haven’t seen dagur or heather in the movies bc they’re village was killed in Drago Bludvists hunt for the king of dragons
The "good" Alpha is REALLY old, so that's definitely a different egg
The egg found in "how to train your dragon race to the edge" was later proved to be dragos, since valkas was there's since she got there (20 years), and drago had had his since birth, drago didn't have one at the end of "httyd rtte" which means he got the egg and raised it in the 2 years between "httyd rtte" and "httyd 2"
My new favorite youtuber
You are going to make me cry
Everyone: Talking about the Bewilderbeast egg problem
Me: BWAHAHA, GOBBER THE BELCH?!
The egg hiccup found just sorta was forgotten about by the directors and never elaborated on
From what I can tell, the bewilderbeast is actually is parent. If you look at the spikes/markings on the parent in race to the edge and the 2nd movie, they're the same just the one in race is smaller.
They’re not the same.
Remember the Bewilderbeast that Valka worked with was already at that ice nest when Cloudjumper first took her away from Berk. Valka has been with her Bewilderbeast from when she was taken all the way till the Bewilderbeast was killed.
The Bewilderbeast on Berserker island has always been on Berserker island. It never once left the island until Johann’s attack. The Dragon Eye lenses, of which are older than Hiccup and company, already had the details of how to find the Berserker island Bewilderbeast because it was always at Berserker island; having been chartered by Viggo’s tribesmen ancestors. And it’s pretty much hinted at that it’s called Berserker island because the Bewilderbeast there uses its powers to keep other dragons from reaching the center of the island; its nesting ground. Valka’s Bewilderbeast has shown that it actively attracts and brings in other dragons in order to protect and watch over them. Not to mention the Bewilderbeast wouldn’t flip flop between Berserker island and the ice nest in HTTYD 2, it’s too dutifully for that. If it would have laid an egg it would have done so at the ice nest in HTTYD 2. Not to mention that it would make a plot hole for why the Dragon Eye lenses only showed the Bewilderbeast at Berserker island and not the other ice nest.
Then there’s the fact that Race to the Edge takes place about 1 year before HTTYD 2. The smaller Bewilderbeast in Race to the Edge wouldn’t have gotten that big over that short of a timeframe. Bigger dragons require longer times to grow, and Valka’s Bewilderbeast is already shown to be a much older Bewilderbeast. And don’t you think that if Valka’s Bewilderbeast was the one at Berserker island that she would have been there to help protect it and its egg. There’s no way she would have left it alone, especially with Drago out there.
The Berseker island Bewilderbeast is simply a separate Bewilderbeast from Valka’s Bewilderbeast.
Best dreamworks séries of all time
Bro discovered why dragon fruit is called like that in 10 seconds
Makes sense why he loves grunkles
In the hidden world u ca see the bad apha when hiccup goes to the hidden world
I could be wrong but I always thought the egg was for the evil one because it had the red spikes on the egg and in race to the edge a bewilderbeast with the same colors as the good one is seen
That with the egg was obvious for me because we see how hiccups mum got the egg
I’m going to assume the egg was for the bad alpha not the good one because when Hiccup was a baby Valka said Cloudjumper took her to see the nest and that’s when she found the good alpha. Drago I’m sure raised it and scared it into submission with his stick because realistically, there’s no way Drago could’ve tamed an alpha species like that as an adult..
I don't think it's neither drago's nor valka's bewilderbeasts, mostly because of the size, but in the end of race to the edge drago's says "another kig of dragons", so i assume that he already has the one of the movie, and was looking for a second one.
@@marcserradell7402 ooh!
I mean YEAH it makes sense, the entire cave is made out of the same ice as the bewilderbeasts use
Yeah I noticed the dragon race to the edge one😊
The problem with the alpha being the egg is that when valka was taken, she says that cloud jumper “knew she belonged here, in the home of the king” implying that he was there when cloud jumper took her, so it couldn’t be the same one as the egg that hiccup saved almost 10 years later, which could mean one of two things:
Either there is another bewilderbeast egg, which is highly unlikely but possible, or rtte is not actually canon as some producers have said before
Bobber could have slayed a large amount of zippleback's
Nahh but aint no way that egg turned into a big ass bewilderbeast in just a few years
Did you know there is a how to train your dragon book series that is nothing like the movies but it's actually ok because it's a completely different story
Toothless had teeth for a moment
Yeah I knew about the egg. Because at the end. Valka comes and yoinks the egg
The thing I love about this film is the books. In the books Toothless is quite literally one of the teeny tiny little green dragons with no teeth hence the name. The film adaptation made it so Hiccup could actually do something.
Actually in the episode you’d an see the ‘good Alpha’ and he freezes Trader Johan, so that’s the alphas egg, and HTTYD 2 takes place 2 years after Race to the Edge so it couldn’t be the Alpha
And if you think about it, the good Bewilderbeast is only young as it’s roughly a 10 year difference from the series and the movie
EVEN BETTER GOBBER FACT, during the movie where stoick and valka meet again while their bickering gobber says 'this is why i never married, that and one other reason' and it is confirmed gobber was talking about being gay, which also fits why hiccup and gobber got along so well because gobber also must have felt like a outsider for being gay, and it explains why while gobber is stoicks bestfriend while stoick was trying to force hiccup to change gobber said 'stop trying so hard to be something your not'
I don’t remember why gobber had that title but I think it’s explained in the book series. I know they aren’t similar but there are some connections between the books and the movies
Never understood how hiccup found the king of dragons egg, dropped it off at a random place. Coincidentally leaving it with his mom, and then was confused when finding the place, also confused about the king of dragons, like he didn’t find this out a couple years back
I thought the good Alpha was on Berserker Island but not the egg that’s what my heart felt like.
Guess I way wrong when Valka found the egg and took with him.
As a true HTTYD fan I knew all of these easily, but I can understand how a rookie wouldn’t know 😂😂😂
Looks like you are a veteran 😂😂
The egg looks like a pupperfish
And in httyd 3 when you first see toothless in the new world you can see the bad alpha is there on the bottom right of the screen
So good alpha grew so big in about 3 years😂🤨
That egg hatched the bad alpha
If I remember correctly the good alpha is 20 years old. and hiccup found a Bewilderbeast EGG when he was 20 and in the second movie Hiccup is 21. So, that means that Valka's Bewilderbeast isn't the one Hiccup found.
The good alpha egg looked like a reaper laviathan egg from subnautica
Also did u realize that in the second movie when Gobber was talking to Hiccup while Valka and Stoic were making dinner, he says smthn like "That's why I was never married, well that and one other reason"
And that "one other reason" is never explicitly stated which leads me and a few others to believe that's "one other reason' is cuz he's gay
He is gay... It was confirmed ❤
when i first saw this i always thought he was hinting that he “beacame a eunich” from a dragon attack
Considering his first love was named Bertha his dick was probably cut off by a dragon
Considering his first love was named Bertha his dick was probably cut off by a dragon
@@coadamolx0100 maybe not his dick (he still urinates i believe) most likely he lost his testicles
Yes I did know, it was so awesome!!
Jay Baruchel voices hiccup 💀
It makes me sad that not many people in the HTTYD fandom know of the orginal book series. If they did BOY theyd be surprised.
The dragon egg isn't the aphla but the mother of the egg is between race of the edge and the second film is three years his mom was gone for twenty years and the aphla took her in so it couldn't be the egg, this is no hate just wanted to share this
First one: NO I DID NOT KNOW THIS OMG 😱
for everyone fighting about the egg, dreamworks confirmed that rtte isnt canon so none of you are right