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To be fair Aang turning into a water kaiju was him combining with the Ocean Spirit not just an Avatar State thing.
Yesss, omg
And that’s where I run into issues later in the show. Feels like the writers had no understanding or limited understanding of the spirit world, spirits, and the avatar state. To me it felt like they had little respect to the original universe they original writers created. Felt like they scrapped it and made it their own.
There is still a bit of good writing but I feel like I’m in a different world than ATLA. In my opinion it’s the worst season but that doesn’t mean it’s absolutely horrible. What I said above is my main issue, I almost cringe when a spirit is on screen in TLOK. When I first watched it I let some slide still a certain point and it really turned me off TLOK for a while but I still continued.
@@sayonfoxx8862 but they are the same writers tho
its the same writers....@@sayonfoxx8862
@@artist0154 Some of them are, but not Aaron Ehasz who was apparently piloting the ship for ATLA. They were apparently the mastermind of the quality of ATLA and they are nowhere mentioned in TLOK. Just because some writers are the same doesn’t mean they shared the same vision.
Thank you for actually understanding Korra’s attitude. You have no Idea how rare that is. Everyone calls her annoying this season but she has a right to be angry. People hate on her for the smallest stuff. And admittedly, I think the writing this season has a lot to do with it.
Yea, Korra’s attitude isn’t an issue I have but I hear about it a lot. My issues come up a bit later. I can say now that I don’t like the spirit change. They just feel different to me than ATLA. I have very very few issues with the first season but some do pop up in this one and it mostly has to do with inconsistencies with spirits and the spirit world.
@@sayonfoxx8862 I think that's an issue that a lot of people have with mystical stuff and their authors, everyone loves Star wars chapter 4-6 but the moment Lucas went full on this is how this works, and here are the intricacies behind the force, people hate it, same with chakra and his origin in Naruto, same with the spirit world in Avatar
They show us just small bits at the beggining, the moment they explain how this is more a hard magic system, that a soft one, people start to see the cracks
I think in general, people are not kin to watch their shows being demystify
@@artist0154 I had no issues with episodes 1-3 explaining the force. Because it makes sense and was always part of Lucas’ plan. TLOK’s lore was not what was original planned for ATLA lore.
My issues with Star Wars was I believe episode 8 where they used a ship to go light speed into a cruiser. Light speed is not going super fast, it’s literally going into another dimension for faster than light travel.
imo she can have attitude with her dad if she wishes, but we spent parts of the last season with her learning to be chill with Tenzin, and trying to win over Mako. Cutting Tenzin permanently and being all around unreasonable with Mako now is just not the move, even if she was upset for good reasons. It's the added disrespect in her interactions where she seems to forget that unlike Tonraq, Mako and Tenzin don't *have* to be there to support her.
@@vindifference However it needs to be remembered that there is someone engineering her to feel the way she does. Her uncle is making sure all these revelations happen in the worst way to get her to push away all the people who genuinely care for her. He ensures that the information comes out in a manner to maximally damage her trust in them. He's engineered a crisis that has her on edge, out of her depth and thus likely to lash out.
Korra spending more and more time in the Avatar State is incredibly risky, because if she is killed while in that state, then the cycle of reincarnation will be broken forever and the Avatar will simply cease to exist.
I feel like they forgot about that part.
She doesn’t stay in the avatar state for long like aang did when he lost control. She uses the avatar state in small bursts like every other avatar before aang. When aang got older even he started using his avatar state in small bursts.
@@hiymecorp.258 We also don’t know if Korra knows that right? Korra using the Avatar State isn’t USUALLY an issue I have with the show. I won’t say too much as of spoilers though.
@@sayonfoxx8862 Yes I think they address the issue in the following season where Korra learns how dangerous it truly is, she is still a bit of a cocky teenager in this season.
@@hiymecorp.258 exactly!
I think the major difference between Unalaq and Tenzin is that despite being the leader of his country Unalaq ONLY cares about spirits.
It’s all he talks about and he looks down on any supposedly non-spiritual behaviour. Meanwhile Tenzin is a deeply spiritual man who clearly also cares deeply about the actual lives of the ordinary people around him.
With how much they understood Korra's reasoning (more than other people who saw the show) they're Sorta Smart actually
I'm so excited to watch their reaction because they actually understood lol
That's because they're more in-tune with human emotions than every other group I see watch this show. Everyone who questions Korra's actions also hates her in the beginning of S4 when she gets mad at Katara. Like... do you have no soul? Do you not understand people? Do you live in a basement and despise everyone?
@@LycanFerretNot just that but they also get mad at her also in mid S4. Which is hilarious because the exact same thing they are mad at her here is what they are mad at her *not* being then
@@LycanFerret I appreciate her growth in season four. However, I do think that her attitude in the first half of this season could have been better handled with some different lines and expressions and that would have gone over better with some people.
For example, have Korra's father voluntarily leave rather than Korra telling him to leave the way she does (so that she doesn't look super disrespectful), or have her bow back and respectfully say goodbye to Tenzin when she disowns him, or have her not easily give Mako such a hard time 🤔.
In addition, I think because she was kind of well-developed by the end of the first season her behaving this way kind of feels like a regression.
@@CLDJ227 So basically tame her to obey men? Why?
Tonraq was being an ass.
you guys are the only reactors who understand why Korra acts the way she does
Her attitude may be understandable, but I think some feel like it's a regression from the previous season after the development she got there. Also, I think it could have been handled better with some different lines and expressions.
For example, have Korra's father voluntarily leave rather than Korra telling him to leave the way she does (so that she doesn't look super disrespectful), or have her bow back and respectfully say goodbye to Tenzin when she disowns him, or have her not easily give Mako such a hard time 🤔.
@@CLDJ227 personally i don't think it's a regression. you don't completely change your whole attitude and personality after one incident. she is slowly learning to be a better person but it's hard when people around you keep telling you want to do, manipulating you, and belittling you all while you're burdened with the highest form of responsibility in the world aka being the avatar. i feel like she has a right to be frustrated and voice out her feelings to those around her. yes, ideally everyone would like to see a main character who's nice and understanding to everyone around them but this is why korra feels more real. she isn't the nicest person and makes mistakes but she learns and grows slowly just like any of us.
is it me or is her uncle just straight up using cult tactics to get her on his side. Isolating her from friends and family, telling her only he has all the answers, making it seem that only he believes in her, engineered crisis in her life that he can save her from.
that’s pretty much exactly what he did 💀💀
Manipulation's at its pure
And of course, the first step: purposefully targeting a person in a vulnerable state.
Palpatine and Anakin
It also reminds me of an abuser tacticts
A fully realised Avatar does use the Avatar state in the way Korra does. Briefly enter - power up your move - exit. Aang does this at the end of his show, Roku and Kyoshi are shown to do the same etc. And neither of those were in ANY danger when we see them in their flashbacks.
Korra also did that by the end of the show too, don't forget. (and in book 2 finale)
Very good point! I never even noticed that.
Varrik and Zhu Li. The best thing to come from S2
In the grand scheme of things imo, they pail in comparison to certain episodes that happen later on in the season.
Wan, too!
ZHU LI DO THE THING!
@@lypedy184 Nah, I can’t say much because he hasn’t been fully introduced but it’s one of my largest gripes with the show. It’s a good story but inconsistent with ATLA.
@@sayonfoxx8862what parts are inconsistent? This is the first I've heard this. Is it the turtle?
Seeohknee: "you cant kill a spirit"
Avatar Kuruk: "wanna bet"
Avatar Kuruk: hold my beer
you can but the affect will be drastic reason he died early
@@marcojohn6658 no reason was he was cursed by spirit who was still alive because he tried to vanquish him if he did his job with destroying spirit well he would die old like majority of other avatars
@@alanscott6005 what??? kuruk died due to the toll of fighting spirits which affected him, korra dont have to worry about that since she can purify spirits
@@marcojohn6658 which was mainly fault of face stealer he even says so in novel if i remember correctly
@Sorta_Stupid Fun fact: The reel where they show the Ostrich-Horse running, is historically accurate to real filmmaking history, as the first motion reel was of a horse running.
Quick fact in atla when Aang uses the avatar state ,mostly it was the past avatar who was guiding (controlling ) him but in Korra mostly is her own self mastered the avatar state.
Varrick and Zhu Li are hands down my favorite characters in this show. They are just fun to watch and kept me going through the all the seasons ngl
"ZHU LI DO THE THING!"
Iconic.
Being killed in the avatar state results in the end of the avatar cycle itself. If she uses the avatar state recklessly and dies while doing so, bye bye avatar cycle
One random comment I saw someone made that made me love that little moment of Korra cheating with Avatar State was the idea of it letting Aang get a moment of playing with his grandkids using the technique he made [and never got to play games with as a kid] which is a nice thought given he never even got to meet the grandkids.
Also yes, fan-favorite Varrick's first appearance! He's such a fun character. Hope you guys continue to enjoy his shenanigans.
Season 3 will reveal why Tensen, the White Lotus and kora's dad kept her "restricted" as an avatar and it is a really good explanation 😌... love the reactions guys💯
Okay, I’m not really saying anything that hasn’t already been said, but when talking about Book 2, it bears mentioning. I don’t entirely blame the writing team for all the issues fans have with this book. I mostly have problems with Nickelodeon’s indecisiveness with the show. They didn’t know if Korra would do well enough to warrant another season, and when it did well with Book 1, they really rushed the team pretty late to make another season without much leg room. That being said, while it’s easily the lowest point of the show, I personally don’t find it as atrocious as many say. (edit: just realizing now, forgot to mention how it’s pretty misunderstood in various instances, instances that make it a good book) But this is the primary reason why people who begin reacting to the show on CZcams have people like me commenting that Books 3 and 4 will incentivize you to keep watching the show throughout its shortcomings in Book 2.
This is my favourite book. If you don't like it, don't speak like everybody shares your opinion.
Yeah I love this book personally like The only problem I have I swear People hate on legend of Korra for no reason at least in my opinion
@@iamdeathiamentropyiamdarks3517lmao, take ur own advice. The negative comments these reactors have been receiving concerning Korra is mostly attributed to the Fandoms distaste for LOK S2. Ur anecdotal fallacy means nothing here 🤡🤡
I loved this book too honestly
@@eagleangel5568 it’s inconsistent with ATLA world building. That’s my only issue. The writing isn’t bad but it slowly ruins the complexity of spirits. It feels like the writers had no idea what the spirit world was and it felt very bland compared to ATLA. Not to mention the break already established concepts of ATLA.
I’m fine with Korra not being perfect, I’m fine with Aang stuff, I’m fine with most parts of the show. I can’t forgive writers for misconstrueding concepts that were already amazing. They didn’t expand on it they scrapped the original writer’s concept and made their own version. I despise this. Similar to Disney messing with Star Wars physics because they didn’t take the time to understand it.
Unulaq is like a hybrid between Ozai and Scar from The Lion King, but as a cool youth pastor.
Varrick, meanwhile, is a cross between Hondo Ohnaka and pre-character-development Tony Stark, except even sillier.
I don’t think season two is as bad as the Internet would have you believe but I cannot wait for you guys to get to season three. It is absolutely amazing, easily the best part of Korra
For me, it's the prime example that being the weakest/worst of a bunch doesn't mean it's outright terrible. If you want to blame someone, blame Nick
@@ashhabimran239 yeah, they did not handle this show very well
personally i could NOT handle this season. the start and the end i was honestly on board but the rest of the episodes except the wan ones i had playing at 2x speed (unless varrick and zhu li were on screen and some other moments that i liked) so overall it isn't TERRIBLE but i legitimately don't think i can rewatch it on my own
@@thatweirdodaniel like I said it’s bad but I don’t think it’s that bad. The animation is still beautiful to look at, the voice acting is fun and some of the story beats are pretty good.
@@tommyherrick8220animation took a huge nosedive, compare it to season one side by side. It’s an INSANE difference. Writing is another story, good god.
Avatar kyoshi used the avatar state to move 2 statues, yangchen used it to move the sky, szeto to make 3 volcanos erupt, kuruk to make a big wave and aang used it(by choice) twice and before the finale he didn't use more cause he was afraid or else he would have done it more.
Also, Bolin gets "lucky" (probably more than his brother), but at the same time "unlucky"
He's like the Newton's third law of Murphy's Law.
You met Varrick, the unhinged Tony Stark of this world!
Aang only brought the avatar state in extreme situations bc he couldn't control it, it was involuntary.
At the very end, when he did control it and could turn it on and off, he did so momentarily and not in an all out all powerful thing (when he calmed down the fire with the water after he defeated Ozai)
The Twins Desna & Eska are voiced by Aaron Himelstein & Aubrey Plaza. Aubrey you might know from Parks and Recreation, Dirty Grandpa, Scott Pilgrim vs. the World and the Scott Pilgrim Takes Off series. Aaron has played young Austin Powers in Goldmember, and was in Captain America: The Winter Solder & Age of Ultron.
Kyoshi spams the avatar state as well. It's just that Aang was very cautious about it/couldn't control it until the very end.
"Korra! Show us your Bankai!" Ok I know that's innocent but it kinda sounds like an innuendo.
Man, it's been a hot minute since I watched Book 2 (okay, maybe more like almost ten years now), so I'm glad to be re-watching it with people who actually have a braincell and bother to read between the lines to understand Korra's feelings in this situation. Mad respect, dudes.
Hopefully, this is a non-spoiler but water bending is the only bending that shows its spiritual cleansing aspects, which I truly feel is a waste because it would have been so cool to see more of the spiritual aspects of the other elements.
Like fire could cleanse spirits with chi and energy (since fire comes from within and is the only element that doesn't need an external source), earth can use crystals that have spiritual properties, and air could use purifying incense
I think it's because of chi, which was based on the fluids in the body. So waterbending would be the closest to chi manipulation and allows the body's spiritual pathways to open.
The water kaiju was aang and the ocean spirit together not just aang. Also a lot of the avatars used the avatar state in short bursts for a boost of power like in atla you can see kuruk use it just to make a big wave to move faster on a surf board. And the avatar itself is the bridge between humans and spirits the avatar state is the avatar connecting to their past life for knowledge and power
In ATLA, Roku comments that the Avatar state was a boost of power, a time to use cosmic energy and then shut down.
Until the end of ATLA, Aang didn't do this, he didn't know. He simply entered the Avatar state out of pure anger, revenge, despair or fear. And he used the avatar state in a desperate way so it sounded "epic". The first time he enters the avatar state knowing what he was doing is when he will remove Ozai's bending.
On the other hand, Korra is very conscious in its use. "Aah, but she's entering to win races", guys, Korra is a TEENAGER who never had time to have fun or distract herself, discovering on her own how to use the Avatar state and how being an avatar is a journey she must go through .
I don't understand anyone who tries to argue that she uses it deliberately without consequences, because she doesn't do that. In reality, Korra is so aware of using the avatar state and the power of the avatar that this has always been her biggest dream, and yet many villains have tried to take it away from her.
Aang turning into koizilla was a one time thing thanks to his merging with the Ocean Spirit who was enraged after the Moon Spirit was killed.
You seem to have forgotten that we learned the dangers in using the Avatar state in the first episode of book 2 of AVATAR. It's meant to be used in emergencies because if you get killed in the Avatar state that's it no more Avatar reincarnation.
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Look at it from another perspective. All avatars take on the qualities the previous avatars wished they were able to strive for in their past life. Aangs regret was that he didn’t want to be the avatar, Korra wants to be what sue was born to be.
Aang’s Journey was a person becoming and Avatar, Korra’s is about an Avatar becoming a person. This is a different person with different values, in a word that honestly doesn’t want the avatar or wants to exploit her. Does she have control? She got lucky in season 1 and almost died. Lets see what happens from here.
Look at all the people mentioning how much we appreciate you understanding Korra this season!! Goes to show how many people don’t understand the deeper meanings in this show, and we love to see it!
Time to DO THE THING!!
The spirit water bending stuff makes a lot of sense when you think about how in the Last Airbender water bending could like heal people's spirits and bodies.
The thing with her using the avatar state recklessly too is that she isn't exactly using her power but relies on her past lives, not to mention that it is supposed to be a final defense mechanish and if she dies in avater state the whole cycle would end, that's why Aang used it so sparcely after Roku told him, he was a more responsible type
Do we know that she knows that? I can’t remember. I do have my issues with the avatar state and a lot of the spirit stuff at large in season 2 but not really her using it recklessly. Korra is pretty reckless and doesn’t think about the big picture as much as Aang.
I wish I could talk about my real issues with the Avatar state but spoilers.
@@sayonfoxx8862 I am not sure if Korra knows (at this point in time) but I'd would bet Tenzin does so at least his opinion is really valid
@@sayonfoxx8862 no one ever told her. Tenzin just kinda scolded her for using it to win god damn air scooter. But you'd think he would've told her what happened to his father when Azula shot him with lightning. That's a problem people tend to have with the AS in LoK. It's not as unique as it was in ATLA; it was revered there. Respected. Here? It's just another anime power up trope.
In ATLA they made it INTERESTING by having Aang use bending he didn't know; aka drawing on the knowledge of his past lives. THAT'S what made the AS so unique. It wasn't just another power up trope. Aang Earthbended in season 2 episode 1 when he thought Katara was dead and destroyed the courtyard. He waterbended himself out of the ocean in the second episode of season 1. THAT made it cool.
Korra made it boring. Kyoshi knew how to GLASSBEND. Kyoshi knew techniques that no one else did. Yangchen knew Airbending techniques that could kill. Imagine if Korra, in her reckless use of the AS, accidentally KILLED someone with Airbending. That could have been a great overarching plot to season 2, along WITH the civil war, with her now struggling to BE peaceful in a time of strife and violence. She could try and rely on her past selves for guidance and just as she's reaching out THEN _______. But no that was done for SHOCK value.
Sorry, sorry I could rant about season 2 for hours.
I think it’s been pretty established that Korra is somewhat overconfident and generally hates when people tell her what to do.
The era of the *hot cop* aka Mako is here
Lmao, you watch YaBoyRoshi don’t you
Please ignore the haters online and in this comment section. This season is nowhere near as bad as anyone makes it out to be, and I will never understand the people who talk bull about it. This has two of the best episodes of the entire series, the villains are engaging, the drama is great, and the humor is on point as always. Plus, it sets up a lot of important things for the next two seasons. Anyone who says it's a slog or hard to get through is being ridiculous.
They record these way in advance so they're probably already done with the whole show by now.
@@JoshsoJBThey are.
The thing with what boom was talking about with avatar state is aang never had control of it until the end of the show when he takes out ozai. We get to see Korra get to this point & see what an avatar can do when they have control, similar to when we get to see Roku & Kiyoshi pull it out.
Korra using the Avatar state as a way to win a children's race is in a way, to show that she takes being the Avatar for granted. Similar to how she did in season one. She builds her whole identity around being the Avatar. So, when she says she respects the Avatar state, she doesn't. She needs to understand what it means to be the Avatar. Especially, when it comes to how she handles problems that affect everyone. It's another great way to show how she differs from Aang.
So, the thing about the avatar state and having to let go of other things to reach it, Korra kinda did that at the end of last season, she couldn't be the avatar with only air bending so she was going to re-start the cycle, she let go of everything on that cliff wich was what allowed aang to help her. martially she is technically one of the best avatars, like they were training her to fight since ever, but her spiritual side was completely neglected during that, right now she is kinda like avatar yang chen, she was great fighter, but shit at the spiritual side of things
Korra: Naga, be quiet, you're gonna wake everybody up.
Naga: Yeah no shit, that's the whole point, check out this crazy shit headed for us right now!
It’s really interesting see how much of an impact the 100 year war had on technology and bending in the world.
Makes you think not only how both would have been if the war never happened. But how both will be in another 50 years or the next avatar, with technological advancements, evolution of bending and spirits
I really like when they use the subtitles because sometimes their mics are louder then the show and I read the subtitles when it happens even when their mics aren’t that loud I still enjoy reading the subtitles I think you should do a poll but I completely understand you’re trying to prevent spoilers
When they were taking about Korra overusing avatar state, I was just remembering time, when Roku used it just to flex on Sozin😂😂😂 like bro, you don't need avatar state to destroy his palace you are literally avatar in your prime, chill out
Oh, and previous water avatar (i think his name was Karok), LITERALLY USED IT TO SURF😂 why is this such an issue with Korra?
The whole spirit attack cause of a forest was destroyed does add up I mean season one of Avatar the last airbender had a village near a burned forest being messed with by a forest spirit so yeah this could've totally naturally have occurred.
Bolin is my all time favorite himbo. Just gotta love the big doofus ❤
I can’t wait for you guys to meet Wan. One of the best characters in Avatar. His story is amazing!
Varrick is such a great addition to the franchise.
“Back to back waterbending villains,” never really thought about that until now. Would’ve been interesting if we had another firebending villain, since Amon was a waterbender. You know, to give more variety for the antagonists (aside from some characters that come later on).
fair - but as of now we have 3 seasons of firebender bad guys, 2 water and ... well. Anyway: Fire still in the lead on bad guys
Metal Bending Villains VS Toph, is my dream too see
To be fair one is bloodbender villain and the other is a spiritbender villain
in a way Korra's bad guys complements Aang's bad guys, Iroh said, a lot of one thing is bad, the fire nation was deep into their own ideology of conquest and power, Unalaqq has this obsesion with balance in both water tribes but way off, Zaheer studied Guru Laghima philosophy of detachment like the air nomads leave everything behind to grow, and Kuvira believes in victory through unification and rigid laws, like the earth kingdom
Each one of them got the worst of each world and that twisted their morality, Amon is more like the gap between those elements, he's the product of development in society and the ones left behind, product of grudge of an old man, and so his movement, the equalists, are the non benders who are unhappy with their situation as low citizens
Fair. But considering the entire original show was about Firebender villains, I think they wanted to use other benders this time.
Book 2 time from head forward I don't really remember what happens but there are bits and pieces I do remember
I think there are 2 things those who hate on this season don't like: 1. Korra's character kinda backslides a bit in a few episodes to acting like her old self before the events of season 1 but I understand that the show writers were doing so to make her more susceptible to join her Uncle's side and she is a hot headed teenager I think some people forget she's a bit more like Zuko personality wise in that she is prone to lash out at others when she's upset or angry even when she was just angry at herself. And people seem to forget it took Zuko all the way to halfway thru season 3 to stop doing that, he was awful to Iroh when he was imprisoned when deep down he was starting to see he was in the wrong. I'm not saying they are exactly the same things but I can understand it but I do think it was more the writers attempts to set the stage for the conflict in Season 2. And 2. Lots of people dislike the story halfway thru the season because of "changes to the lore" but those 2 episodes I personally thought were awesome and are what improve the second half of the season. I think most of us are in agreement that Season 2 is the weakest of LOK but I don't think it's as bad as others seem to think it is.
I completely agree with you and my issue is your number 2. I had no issues with Korra backsliding because that’s actually very realistic. I also think it’s not as bad as people make it out to be. Even though the inconsistency really really messes with me.
I’d say I have issues with 25% of the writing but that 25% hurts so bad that they got it wrong that it feels closer to 50%. It’s like when Disney ruined Star Wars physics just for shits and gigs.
It feels like the writers had no idea what spirits, the spirit world, or what the Avatar State fully is. Just a general idea and not nearly the amount of work the original writers put in. It almost feels disrespectful to ATLA. By the way, I also don’t have issues with how Aang is portrayed later on, I’ve heard that’s a point of contention as well.
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My other issue is at the end of season 2 they completely scrap what the Avatar State is. When Korra loses her past lives her Avatar state should have gone into the dumb. She should have pretty much lost all her power but she was just as powerful as before. Where was “the Avatar State is based off the power and knowledge of past Avatars. If they are gone they are gone and so should their power and knowledge.
the lore wasn’t even changed at all, we found out how bending was possible but the lore of ATLA still stands. people still learnt to bend from various animals, we even see Wan learning to firebend better from a dragon.
This is nonsense. Zuko's made absolute sense and was consistent with his past. He's the literal fire prince with a lover back at home. Why would he join Team Avatar at that point, when he never reconciled with them yet???
Korra, in contrast, learned to work with Tenzin and Mako back in Book 1 only for her to get peeved by them and complete 180 to her Uncle (whos clearly does not teach Korra anything, is just using her, and has NEVER communicated with before) while also beefing against everyone she's made friends with in Book 1. I know what they were going for, and they botched the execution. It just wasnt believable that she would completely lash out against her friends, father, and lover over a stranger and they acknowledge this by Book 4 saying she hates her Uncle and loves her Dad lmao....
You got me at "Zhu Li, do the thing!".
I'd recommend watching everything without subtitles, but having the subtitles on the edited video (in case you're blabbering over some dialogue, so it's easier for viewers to keep track of which part you're reacting to). The only exceptions being movies/shows that have foreign languages, in which case if possible have translation subtitles for foreign parts only for yourself (not sure if this is a thing anymore, but I remember back in my day before Netflix and all, DVDs sometimes did have that option).
If im being honest people hate on korra too much but god does season 2 suck its 6/10 and the only reason its that high is because this season gives us varrick and zhu li and there worth 3 points
Fun fact:the voice of eska is played by audrey plaza in case you haven’t figured that out already 😅
I can think of wan thing I’m really looking forward to in season 2
“When Aang used the Avatar State, he did big, incredible things with it. If she does it too much, it’ll cheapen it.” (Paraphrased)
They…they do know that Aang didn’t have control of it, right? Without his control, it was an ancient and primordial power that would take over. And they do know that Korra _does_ control it now, right? If Aang did control it, who knows how often he would use it. This is comparing two totally different things.
I effing love Varrick. He is my favorite character in this franchise. He is so eccentric and lively. Like a walking whirlpool. And very funny too. 😂
Never thought about Korra not using crazy powers in the Avatar state, but it kind of makes sense because the Avatar state gives access to all the previous Avatars' powers and wisdom and every Avatar before Aang lived in a world divided into 4 nations that were constantly at war, whether it be the fire nation in Aang times or Chin the Conquerer in Kyoshi times or every other threat every other Avatar had to face, all the Avatars had to defeat someone to solve their issues and that was the only wisdom they had for Aang.
Whereas Aang created the Republic city to unite the 4 nations, which means that Aang would've added the wisdom that destroying the opposition isn't the only way to solve conflicts, so when Korra taps into Avatar state she's also getting Aang's wisdom and doesn't just turn into a destructive force.
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The writers basically scrapped the Avatar being powerful from past Avatars at the end of season 2. That’s why I hate book 2 out of all of them. She loses them all but is still powerful in the Avatar State.
Varrick and Zhu Li! Finally, my favorite duo pops up!
I'm glad you've been enjoying this season so far! It's usually hit or miss for people, but this season has a lot good moments, too!
14:08 i feel like H man would hate him 😂
Korra already masters the avatar state as of aang didn’t until the end 😂 also she probably got tired of just practicing air over and over, I love the way you guys did understood korra here like it’s refreshing
28:20 Just saying... they should have had Korra find out they were Lying by talking to Aang.
Korra Be like 'I know you wanted me to finish my training before leaving the white lotus.
Aang: Wait What? That's dumb, I traveled the world before I knew I was the Avatar!
Some great new characters introduced, the continuation of story and the Avatar learning the ways. A great beginning.
This is my favorite season visually
The story in the next two seasons are better
But this season is very flip floppy with story there is a lot of times it made me confused, but I don't fault the writing I fault how Nick marketed this it gets very hard to enjoy at the character development but there are some stories that overlap but the story doesn't get convoluted it just gets a little complicated
Aside from Varrick, Eska and Desna crack me up too. So does Bumi.
Some new voices you might recognize Korra's father is voiced by James Remer from 79 film The Warriors that had a video game in 05, in Eddie Murphy's 48 Hrs, Mortal Kombat Annihilation, The Quest with Jean-Claude Van Damme, & 2 Fast 2 Furious. Varrick is voiced by John Michael Higgins from Blade Trinity, Fred Claus, and the Pitch Perfect films. Bumi is Richard Riehle from Office Space, Deuce Bigalow: Male Gigolo, and the Grounded for Life series. Kya 8s voiced by Lisa Edelstein from the series House MD.
"you're tapping on the creator (Aang) of that (air scooter)"
There's actually a theory that when Korra went on AS during that race, it's actually Aang😂
8:25 Nah man, too risky.
She turns on the avatar state and somewhere in the sky a TigerEagle drops a LionTurtle out of the sky and it's Aeschylus all over again... except when Korra gets hit in the head with a lion turtle the whole avatar cycle ends!
Honestly, Book 2 isn't as bad as people say, I really enjoy it!
I just don't like the Korra Love Triangle with Mako and Asami 😆
It’s not as bad but there are still a lot of issues. Mainly breaking world building from ATLA.
Bruh, I've been so impressed with yalls predictions. It's like yall Know lmao.
To be fair to Korra, Aang only used the Avatar State in dire situations because he had literally no control over it, not until Guru Pathik showed him how. Before that, the Avatar State only showed itself in extremely emotional situations, such as after Zhao murdered the moon spirit or when he thought that one Earth Kingdom general was hurting Katara. With Aang, the Avatar State was highly connected to his emotions.
With Korra, the Avatar State didn't show itself until after Aang returned Korra her bending and she seems to be in control of it, but probably because she's surrounded by people who can teach her how. Unlike Aang, who had no one to teach him until the end of book 2. He had to figure a lot of this Avatar stuff out by himself. The Avatar State is purely a defense mechanism that an Avatar is supposed to get in and out of at will.
A fun fact if u guys didn't know avatar kioshy lived to around 300 and something years old I believe it was 342-360 or somewhere around there
"KORRA SHOW US YOUR BANKAI" was great lmao
I am an identical twin 😂 All I can tell you is that all twins go through a point in their lives where they accept their twinness or completely reject it and go their own separate ways. I fall in the former category or what you call the "weird" category. 😅😅😅
"every twins i've met" damn, how many twins have you met
Varrick is the best character of the show
For you.
"I want to win one of those" while the appa plushie sits behind you
With Aang he didn’t have control of the Avatar State and was even scared of it. So he never went into that state, unless it was a last resort and it was emotionally driven.
Her ability to control her Avatar state as well as she can Really saves her ass in future episodes no spoilers.
I don't care what anyone says.. Sokka had a kid and that kid had another kid and that kid is Varrick
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HE SAID THE THING
There is no "Avatar State Second Grade". It doesn't get better or more powerful than this - not that we've seen, at least. The Avatar State lets you access a great wellpsring of power and the knowledge of your past lives - there is no need to worry about mastering it because you get any necessary knowledge when you go into it. Unless you're somehow up against something no past Avatar has ever seen or done. So using it more often just risks the Avatar's life more - if you're using it all the time every day, every time you bend, you risk accidentally dying (or a targeted assassination) and breaking the cycle forever.
Edit: And Aang's journey with Guru Pathik was, in part, a journey for him to master control over the Avatar State faster and quicker than he was supposed to. Not every Avatar needs to accomplish the same journey since they're all different people. Aang was very spiritual but had difficulty fighting anything head-on, Korra was a physical prodigy but spiritually weak, etc.
And as others have said, the Water Kaiju was unique circumstances: Aang merging with the Water Spirit after Zhao killed the Moon Spirit. Doesn't mean they can't do crazy stuff, though: Kyoshi separated a peninsula from the mainland and made Kyoshi Island in the Avatar State. Roku destroyed the old Imperial Palace with an air burst during his fight with Sozin.
19:12 you know it makes sense if you think about it this way you’ll either love someone a lot, or want to be the exact opposite of them if you share, basically a one by one closet with them for months to getting elbowed and shoved all over the place 😂
i personally think this is the season that made everyone turn on korra, but no one understood the depth of her character here like you guys. hope you guys keep being open minded throughout
THE FACES 😂😂 19:38
My theory is Korra's Avatar state is weaker than Aang's is because she's a lot less connected to her spiritual side.
If you really want to cope with the Avatar State, Erik hit it right in the head about fully unlocking it. The Avatar State is not a stagnant power level like Super Saiyan 1, it's a discipline in itself tied to the Avatar's spirituality. Aang's was so strong because he was a very spiritual person, so powerful that it took over him multiple times. Korra is the complete opposite in that she always was better with element control than Aang, but not so much in raw power, same with her Avatar State, is nowhere as powerful as previous Avatars' but that's because the most she can do with it is turn it on and off, not fully access it. Kyoshi struggled spiritually and was very weak with her Avatar State at first and we all saw how stronger she got with age.
You're wrong.
Aang might be more spiritual than Korra but she doesn't lack raw power.
And no, her AS is not the weakest, she has so much control that past lives can't control her.
Yancheng was so spiritual and she tended to use it as a boost (like Korra does), Roku, and Kyoshi too.
Is not thay they can't stay, is just that is safer that way.
She can fully access it, but she's careful. You can see Aang using it just like Korra does in the episode where he fights Yakone.
The issue with the Avatar state comes late in the series. The writers definitely don’t fully understand the Avatar state but that’s not why.
@@sayonfoxx8862 I mean. It's their show; they get to define the limits and specifics however they want. This is like saying that Kryptonite or a metal that can block lightsabers is bullshit. In magical narratives, systems evolve to introduce challenge and choice, which breeds conflict, which is essential to driving a story. That's just how writing works.
@@SeanBoyce-gp inconsistencies are different from adding or evolving a system of narrative. A good way to see this is they simplifies the spirits, they were devolved for a more simplistic picture for the plot. Another thing is they ignore already established history, that’s not evolving a narratives they are not the original writers which means I believe they should have respect for the original vision of that universe.
Let’s say someone was writing a sequel to someone else’s book, they established that gravity is real and that there is no way to change this. The new writer ignores this and gives everyone floaty powers for one scene because it made it easier to write around the original law than establishing a reason for it. They can even give everyone floaty gems but the people act like they’ve done it all the time and it’s nothing new. That’s the issue. There was no establishment for the change.
Now let’s say there was a plot point where they had to find these gems and that they are incredibly rare which is why no one knew about them previously. This would be ok, but TLOK is more like the first example where they act like it’s always been like this.
@@SeanBoyce-gp Yes, that's my point, what they show is what it is. Period
I'm so happy u enjoy this season! No matter what people say I think it is great, even if a bit weaker then the others. It's not the 1st time we see a dark spirit though, the 1st time was back in ATLA s1ep7 with Tai Bei, who became dark because the fire nation burned down his forest. Thus from ATLA we know that spirits have personality and values as well as their dark and light forms. There is an inconsistency in what Unalaq said though: if we should appease dark spirits for them to become light, why did so many of them tried to keep Korra from opening the portal? Suspicious...
Varricks the best part of this season
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"But everything changed..."
Season 2 is where you can really spot the writing differences between Aaron Ehasz (the head writer of ATLA) and Bryke. And I don't mean that in a good way. Because season 2 has its issues.
I won't get into what they are, just in case of spoilers but...there's ONE thing in particular that STILL grinds people's gears even ten years later. Says a LOT.
Some people's gears aren't worth noticing. The only problems I have with S2 are the pacing and the Mako relationship stuff. Well, and the fact that they had to hand out a lot of stupid balls. They don't ruin Aang. They don't ruin ATLA lore. They don't ruin spirits. Nothing here is really inconsistent with ATLA. The complainers are either mad that Korra exists and they have to come up with stupid reasons to hate it, or else they've invented a whole ATLA fanfic in their heads and they're mad that Korra doesn't match their head canon.
@chrisbergsten1429 ohhhh I love when people just assume sht. I'll critique lok all day long cause I actually think about what I watch. I love Korra herself. She's a great successor to Aang. I love Tenzin and his family. I love the Beifongs.
But the story around them is kinda trash. Season 3 and 4 are solid. Most of season 2 is very inconsequential to the world. Even down to THAT moment. And that's bad writing.
You guys continue reacting to Book 2? Yasss!! Thanks a lot! This season is a bit rocky but it has a lot of cool moments sprinkled in between.
When I saw your Dutch Bros Drink 😭😭😭
One of the reasons aang didn’t use the avatar state was because of how much he didn’t want to be the avatar meanwhile Korra has been wanting this her whole life, Roku used his avatar state on and off to boost his power in ATLA
no he just didn’t know how to use it till the finale of season 2
14:21 ahhhmm...the First "zhu li, do the thing!" You guys have to have in check how many times this happens lol
I feel as though Asami rebranding Future Industries would be really smart and not Sorta Stupid