Episode 02: "Festival & Fire" - Pathfinder 2e Actual Play - Rise of the Runelords
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- čas přidán 4. 12. 2020
- The Knights of Last Call continue their epic adventure! Join us as we take on the legendary Rise of the Runelords adventure path, updated for the second edition of Paizo's Pathfinder Roleplaying Game.
Designed to take characters from level 1 to 20 over the span of 6 harrowing adventures, what begins as a small goblin attack on a backwater town soon turns into a race against an ancient evil force attempting to secure dominion over the world!
The annual Swallowtail festival has been interrupted by a sudden attack of vicious, flame-wielding goblins! After defending the townsfolk in Sandpoint's central square, the Knights rush to the Rusty Dragon to make sure their favorite inn (and its owner, Ameiko) are safe! More battles ensue, and this leads to a chance encounter with a nobleman from Magnimar. If the Knights can manage to save him and the town, they will have earned the gratitude of a powerful and wealthy lord and the entire populace of Sandpoint!
Welcome to the Knights of Last Call! - Zábava
Just found you guys because I'm a d&d5e expert looking to transition. Love the cursing, the realism, the explanations, all of it
Very cool -- I figured we'd see some new folks coming over and taking a look. Be aware that we do use a couple of variant rules in this campaign (they are from the Gamemaster Guide) such as Stamina/Hit Points.... but on the whole no one here has any PF2 experience so you can learn as they learn :D
Watching this series for the 4th time, about to play it with my party, but I love you guys and this series is what made me a Knight of Last Call. Wish there were more APs played like this.
You should do more of these with other adventure paths. This is very entertaining while learning the game. Critical role for Pathfinder, love it!
I think this was the episode where I was hooked. As a new PF2E DM I was like "yup, this is what I need." **And!** As gamers, this group has a great friendship between them and just has a great time playing. Love it!
“Also are you writing your hit points in PEN ??” Made me laugh.
Glad I came across this on Reddit! Now that I am all caught up with Glasscannon, I've been itching to see a podcast of Pathfinder 2e!
Welcome aboard; we are glad to have you! Hope you enjoy the rest of the series; please drop us a comment if you think there's something we can do better to make the episodes more fun/enjoyable.... we don't make any money from this so we might as well make it good :D
@@KnightsofLastCall I definitely will! I ran Rise of the Runelords before, but in 1e Pathfinder. I do like that the GM slows things down to explain in detail about certain rules of the game. It not only helps the players but is super helpful to people watching (like me) who are just getting into Pathfinder 2e!
@@snuzzlebumble That's great!!! one of the reasons we made the channel (besides to have fun of course) was to let people see PF2 - it's strong bits and it's warts - and make a decision about playing it or not; so I hope you find it as educational as you do entertaining.
Additionally; we haven't made an official public announcement yet but starting in chapter 3 (Hook Mountain Massacre) we are going to be doing a ton of giveaways; so definitely stay tuned to try to win some PF2 stuff!
@@KnightsofLastCall I'll have to quickly catch up then! Book 3 is my favorite book out of the Runelords AP!
@@snuzzlebumble I'm excited about running it as well!
I too, am about to start running a pf2e campaign and these sessions have been incredibly informative on mechanics. Thank you so much for posting!!! So glad I found your channel.
Great content! Enjoyed this episode very much. I'm excited to see the production get better and better. Fun to be here from near the beginning. 2e is tough!! Gotta have a full party of 4 to have much of a chance.
Thanks for joining us!
the party is 4 officially it's just that the 4th member, Danny, plays remotely as he is in the military and can't always join us. In the second chapter of the series we pick up a 5th party member so that we are bouncing between 4 to 5 people instead of 3 to 4 people.
Also the product does get a lot better; we get some more cameras and better mic stands to help everyone be as clear as possible. We also add a little more graphical pizzazz to the show. But we're still trying to figure out what's best for the game and for our viewers
I'm enjoying your gameplay immensely. I'm about to start running this campaign so it's been great to see how Derick is handling the different scenarios.
Thanks! I wish you the best of luck and if you have any questions or such feel free to comment and ask away (or DM me).
I just found your channel a few days ago and have been taking the time to jump back into path finder. Thanks for this and breaking things down.
Outstanding production quality - subbed and liked! great contact boys
Much appreciated! We really hope you enjoy the rest of the series to-date and the continued improvements we have been making!
I encourage you to try to catch up in the series because starting with Chapter 3 episodes we are going to be doing some contests and giveaways!
Welcome!
Great sessions so far and as I've heard from my friend (who showed me your channel) it will only get better in time.
Looking forward for that!
All hail the Great All Gore I'thm!
Welcome aboard!
Thanks for doing this. Very helpful for learning the rule set. Also, dice jail is real. Freeze it in water and force it to watch the next game as it slowly thaws out. Burls ray of frost can work.
That sounds more like dice waterboarding!
Baddassess of DRAGONLANCE.
Just found this live play and was about to start GMing. Game of Pathfinder. I was honestly looking for a 1e adventure so as to not spoil anything 2e and this hits the spot between entertainment and teaching. I love it
Great game guys. My comments are going to be repetitive. I have listened up to ep 18 and going back and commenting and liking your video.
Yes I subed a while back.
You can do it!
Making sure the Rusty Dragon isn't on fire is the objectively best thing. We know that they make brews that take a whole season to distill, so they probably have massive stores of alcohol. Alcohol is very flammable and whatever else they put in their brews could explode if ignited.
I get Bob's frustration with the flanking rules. IMO neither D&D or PF2E do flanking well. But at least in D&D three guys can do a dance in the zone of control so that all 3 can get the benefit. Feels bad to be the odd man out in PF2.
Monster, Booster and Red Bull screwed my digestion system and blood pressure, though stress was part of the blood pressure going up. So yea; do not drink Monster.
also, your gaming group reminds me of some of my players, oh the jokes we say in between session! lol
It's honestly the hardest part of editing these videos... Deciding how much of the random table talk should stay in and how much I should remove for purposes of watchability and focusing on the game/story.
I am loving watching this. Also planning on running it for my group at some point. Wondering what battle mat(s) you used?
These particular ones were from a series of poster-map products made by WoTC during the 3rd edition era. Specifically these were from the "City of Peril" map pack.
www.amazon.com/City-Peril-Dungeons-Dragons-Accessory/dp/0786943203
First of all: I discovered you guys recently and I really like it! I also enjoyed the combat & tactics series.
But what I wanted to ask is what kind of tokens are you using?
My dice wish I would "just" use a dice jail...
We used to move underperforming dice into the freezer :D
I'm new to the channel and enjoying the show. Couple questions. Isn't rise of the runelords a Pathfinder first edition campaign? Are you translating everything yourself or are there conversion guides out there. Also, where did you get those cool cards to represent the NPCs and monsters. That's really rad!
I see some of the beverages youre enjoying is called great lakes. where abouts are you located? i absolutely love that brewery!
i remember, one player of mine, oh many many years ago, who would put bad dice to the side, to later on do some good vibe/chanting/not even sure what he'd do to them, other than scream at them. don't believe in dice jail idea, its why you should always keep rolling different dice
I had one player who for years kept his "best dice" in the freezer... at MY house... and just left them in there; and no one else seemed to mind :D Then every few months on a super important roll the group would huddle together and collectively ask themselves if it was time to retrieve the dice from their stasis in cold storage.
RPG players and their dice can be a bit.... weird... and I love it :D
Do you like using the stamina system? Is it the one used in Starfinder?
It’s very similar and yes it’s been great! It allows the group to very quickly recover after a fight (as in instantly) instead of having to spend 20 to 30 minutes standing around making medicine checks or waiting on Focus powers. I find those short-yet-long breaks very problematic from both a game and narrative point of view
New to the page!! Really nice content boys!! Do you recall where that map is from?
Ever figure out what officially happens on a nat fail on a disease roll?
hahah yeah in the second chapter with all the Ghoul Fever running around we learned all about Afflictions :D
I'm curious if the sorcerer's badger is a Familiar, or an Animal Companion. If the latter, how was that handled?
Ahh the infamous badger.. so Matt the player used his gnome Ancestry feat to pick up "Animal Accomplice" perhaps it was the name but we just assumed it meant "Animal Companion" so we used it as such.
Eventually we "find out" about the free archetype variant and fall in love with it. We retcon Burl into a Beastmaster archetype so that his Badger animal companion is legitimate :D
@@KnightsofLastCall Did you also find out that an animal companion and its owner share the multi attack penalty? Right before 1:59:00 the badger attacked twice and then he attacked with ray of frost at full bonus.
@@RekijanGaming We are 22 sessions in and I did NOT know that. I'm honestly pretty torn about that rule.... I really dislike it. I am certainly fine with rules for game balance sake... but not at the complete expense of all reality. Burl casting a Ray of Frost should have NO impact on Lucky the Badger's ability to make attacks.
@@KnightsofLastCall Yeah it is clearly a system balance thing. In PF1 having an animal companion was borderline OP because of all those actions. PF2 really hammers on action economy balance and this rule is a result of that. Spending 4 actions (2 casting, 1 each for a Strike of the animal) on 3 attacks and only one of them having the first multi attack penalty is very strong.
But how to translate that into the narrative is indeed tricky. You could argue that the command animal action takes some focus thus hindering the accuracy of the attack of the owner. Or in the case of the spell going first then the animal that the animal attacks later and thus has less time to find a good angle of attack.
Or you could just reason that the whole to hit system is already an abstraction and balance is more important then the narrative. In the sense that a character will either hit or not in the story, and the character doesn't think in +7 or +2 for his attack.
Or you know, you can just house rule and keep it as you are doing it if it isn't causing problems. I mean if it is apparent that the person with the animal companion is overshadowing the other people because of the advantage (the advantage of not sharing the MAP), then you really ought to enforce it. But if everyone is having fun and it doesn't seem a problem at your table, then yeah just keep playing as you have been.
@@KnightsofLastCall I was a bit rambly maybe in my other response. I guess what it comes down to is the following. What is more important to you (either as a GM or a group)?
A: Following game balance and finding a reason to have the rules make sense.
B: Having things make sense at the expense of balance.
In the case of A, well magic can always explain things. In this case the bond between owner and animal companion is magical/mystic/primal/whatever in nature. So it can be explained through some variance of that.
And in the case of B, you just have to assess how big an impact it will have and if you can live with that.
How are you getting 2 actions from command animal by only spending 1 action?
If your animal is an Animal Companion or Familiar... Giving it a Command (single action) gives the animal 2 actions to take!
2e.aonprd.com/Rules.aspx?ID=149
Thanks, learning pathfinder/ running a remaster version of RotRL and I hadn’t found that rule until now 😊
What is stamina and resolve? I don’t see it anywhere in the rulebook
It's an optional rule from the GMG.
2e.aonprd.com/Rules.aspx?ID=1378
Can I ask, where are you getting stamina from?
It's an official Variant rule from the PF2e Gamemastery Guide!
Wasn't there a goblin monk in the party?
Unless I'm about to die I see absolutely no point in using the shield block reaction while having to worry about subsequent combat. Losing 1 ac to save a couple hit points when that 1 ac could save you from taking any damage a turn later is just being scared to lose hit points. They, just like actions, are a resource.
Dice jails are incredibly stupid and are the most unnecessary part of tabletop rpg culture. However, it's just fun. I mean it hurts nothing except for your wallet.
We are best friends now :D
That depends. MOST of the time it is useless superstition, but occasionally, and with more or less frequency depending on the type and manufacturer, there can be defects in a die such as trapped air bubbles, or a settling of more dense material to one side of the die which can cause it to become unbalanced and therefore not truly random. In this case it is reasonable to throw the dice into "jail" of course most people throw dice "in jail" long before the difference can be called statistically significant, which is what makes it silly.
Dice jails are great - why? They give players a target to bitch at instead of the GM. Are they useful for fixing dice? No.
I'm not sure why you think the alchemist has MAD or why you think INT doesn't help him. He generally relies on two stats, either DEX or STR and INT. That's not really MAD. Nearly every class relies on more than one stat. As for INT not helping the alchemist... I'm not sure what you're smoking, but I want some. It's the primary start for crafting, which is how he makes his potions. That's his whole schtick, and you can't do it without INT. Later, as he gains feats such as Calculated Splash and Expanded Splash for instance, INT aids his bombs. It's also adds to your class DC for all your bombs and effects that have saves. There's not a huge number of them, but they're there. Granted, the PF1 alchemist needed INT more, but that's not saying the PF2 can do without it.
While I feel that all Alchemists are a bit MAD; in this particular instance the Mutagenist is extremely MAD.
I'll quote the rpgbot Mutagenist guide:
rpgbot.net/p2/characters/classes/alchemist
Str: You need it for damage output when you move into melee with Feral Mutagen.
Dex: You need it for your terrible AC.
Con: You need it for when your terrible AC fails to protect you.
Int: You need it to craft mutagens.
Wis: You need it for your terrible Will saves and your terrible Perception.
Cha: Dump. You’re already MAD enough as it is.
@@KnightsofLastCall That's fair, except doesn't everyone need DEX for AC except the fighter, and everyone need CON for HP, and everyone needs WIS for Perception. That isn't exclusive to the Alchemist, so I kinda feel the claim was exaggerated a bit. Having said that, I think you're right one hand because the mutagenist needs these stats more than others due to a lack heavy armor training. I wouldn't call that extremely mad, though (by this definition, the rogue is crazy mad too for the same exact reasons). Either way, it's a very interesting discussion. I'm enjoying the game play and am eagerly watching the entire series!
@@dangercat8919 Yes I think it's especially problematic with the mutagenist because it reads like it should play like Dr. Jekyl/Mr. Hyde and that when you go into your "battle form" you should be able to rumble...
The issue with Str/Dex etc. Is that the Alchemist is proficienct with Medium armor but you need a reasonable Strength to not be unduly burdened by it; so if you want to wear light armor and still gain +5 AC from armor then you need dex too... also if you want to be able to use bombs at all you also need Dex... but if you want to do damage in melee with your mutagens then you need Strenght. etc. etc.
I'd say the Bomber is probably the "best' build. You could be a 16 Dex, 16 Int build and get both to 18 by level 5. Your DCs will be high; you'll have plenty of bonus reagents and you'll have the Dex to have a good AC (Studded Leather would give you 2+3) and have a good to-hit with your ranged bombs.
Not really here for the pf2 aspect, I've converted everything into 5e for simplicity, mainly here to see how someone else runs Rise of the RuneLords. It feels like the intricacies of P2e gets in the way of the story. Making the players and dm more concerned with making sure everything is done right instead of just enjoying the moment.
Interesting; a 5e conversion would be pretty cool to see (and a lot of work so cheers to you!). How do you feel that PF2 would hinder the progression of the adventures?
@@KnightsofLastCall The plethora of specified actions and number crunching can bog down the game
@@johnathansanford8206 It certainly can at that!
The intricacies are only noticeable because they are taking care to explain them all as they go. If they didn’t it would be smoother
I personally can’t abide the narrative of pathfinder 2E rules getting in the way of story. This is nonsense of the highest order and not the experience I have had playing, gm-ing or listening to actual plays. And the increased options make telling stories with characters so much easier than in 5E
@@gm9460
Facts!
I hate the whole “opposite sides” stuff with flanking. In my opinion 5e handles it better. You are fighting off two assailants. You sre flanked.
That's an easy change to make if that's the way you want to run it.
@@dangercat8919 Not trying to be a dick. Just giving my opinion. 😊
@@KainMalice Totally. I wasn't offended. Just pointing out that that is a very easy change to make. In other words, there's probably bigger issues you could be bringing up. lol
5e flanking works the same at pf2e, at least when positionals are concerned.