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I remember sparring one of the Karate black belts and he would PURPOSELY miss with round kicks just to misdirect a counter attack or drop his own. 🤢🤮🙏🏽
@@MilkTestingMan same bro, timid, didn’t like confrontation too much, the better you get and the better people you train with the more confident you get, all you can do is try
Side kick I’ve found does a lot more damage and is a smoother transition from the round kick as your hips will be rotated either way so it’s harder for them to see coming. I like to use an inside leg kick a lot, defensively and offensively, and bringing my leg to them then lifting as I chamber into a side kick is a very good way to hide the side kick so it doesn’t get caught as I can create distance and maintain a pace against my opponent.
That JKD lead side kick is the most underutilized weapon in MMA imo. Comes in at such a awkward angle and so hard to read. Bruce was famous for using them as a extension of the his lead jab as well as throwing them with ferocious power and send people flying.
Seems like they both have their place, just depends on how committed you were to the initial low kick. A similar combo I picked up from a friend that does Sanda is swinging the kick all the way through, planting into a bladed stance, then throwing the side kick. Same idea, a bit slower and more powerful.
TKD 2nd degree blackbelt here. the lead sidekick is one of the best defensive and even offensive kicks in my opinion. because it comes straight out like a jab its really hard to read and evade
If you use them both in unison you can create a lot more openings than you could using them individually, along with being fluid in switching stances you could say you’re boxing with your feet.
I do the side kick as a recovery off a kick or when someone likes to blitz off a naked kick. It’s a good bait, and hurts like f$!& if you’re walking into it
That was my first lesson learned when I first started sparring. I'd back away from their round kick, then I'd step back in. After getting hit with that follow-up side kick a few times, I learned to hang back for a few!
I think the side kick leaves u more exposed if you miss or if its dodged, but the benefit is you can switch between side kicks and hook kicks to throw your opponent off guard
Whoever said a side kick is useless in real fighting has never worn one, or learnt properly how to throw one. I love sparring with Muay Thai guys because they seldom expect a side kick follow up from a roundhouse - it’s a great combo
Ive found it works well against guys with the square muay thai stance aswell, cuz they get the full force flat on their torso as they arent bladed, and their short stance doesnt let them shift back quick to dampen it. With my more karate esque style and ~6 months of training, ive landed it on ppl who have trained for years and are much better than me in every area.
@@columodonnell9202 totally agree man. The flat and shallow stance that Muay Thai has wears a side kick pretty badly if and when one lands. And I find an average Muay Thai fighter just never sees it coming or even expects it, and often they take a while to adapt. I’ve also found crescent kicks (standard and reverse) as well as well timed heel kicks (not just spinning) are usually unexpected. But then I’ve always fought Muay Thai guys in light sparring and then they almost always get pissed off because they usually hate being hit with something they’ve never trained. For me, I think ultimately good freestyle sparring is about simply seeing what works for you and it’s best when you have a respectful sparring partner that wants to look beyond styles and simply wants to be a good fighter. I think martial arts are going back to being factionalised even though the era of MMA supposedly broke down the barriers and created am open playing field - but it’s starting to turn full circle again back stylistic camps of “this and that”. Personally, a kick’s a kick - do what works, and I find side kicks work really well for me, thrown all sorts of different ways.
i don't think i've ever heard anyone say side kicks don't work. especially the low oblique kick or khon lak pek in muay thai is lethal. also interestingly, traditional side kicks and heel kicks (both stationary and spinning) are supposed to be fundamental moves of muay thai and even the axe kick used to be taught in old school muay thai. but most gyms especially foreign ones don't really teach these. but some popular gyms in thailand still do. you should try sparring with some actual thai fighters.
Hey JEFF. Great work. I’ve been seeing all the new stuff. Especially you and NATE I really liked. What I do, i use a roundhouse kick. Easy to score. Has risks. So, because I know people usually try to fast counter em. Use a roundhouse. Then a low kick, then a TEEP. 😉💯💥
I really like the side kick. I use it defensively a lot when my opponent is rushing or coming in with punches, I find it’s a unorthodox strike you can bait people into
Honestly idk both are pretty effective. But there is nothing like taking a sidekick from a tkd black belt. Feels like a blade stabbing into your stomach
I say use both. I'm seeing the ideology that the sidekick is limited to a side/bladed stance, but a sidekick can be thrown from a square stance. It's not the traditional karate side kick but more like a front kick or teep, just with the hip and striking leg turned to the side to strike with the blade/heel (i believe I've also seen it in thrown this way in wushu / kung fu). At full extension it's kind of like your feet and knees are pigeon toed in relation to each other, the supporting leg facing forward and the striking foot in your opponent's midsection mostly horizontal. It has little to no telegraph, is more damaging than a teep and allows you to remain in hand range. It sounds awkward to describe but is simple when demonstrated and it works.
Their are both good in my opnion, It just depends on the situation. If you are trying to chase your opponent, or trying to set up for close distance, the teep is better because of the foward motion It offers, but If your goal is to keep distance, play in the long range, the side kick variation is the right choice.
I actually do prefer the side kick more. However, there is no denying the efficacy of both. I think the big step you can take into a side kick is why I prefer it, you can practically cover more distance. I also find that it's easier to pull my leg out if it gets caught versus a teep.
I used to use the sidekick technique naturally. I would purposely miss a low kick then come back with the sidekick,I found it effective for me. I would even work on heavier opponents 🙂👍🏿
Teep would allow a set up of counterattack, including the use of the upper body. It's better defensive positioning if the person fails to maintain distance. However, side kick does have some advantages in competition and potentially force.
So these are essentially low kick whiff extensions where you get an option select of small but guaranteed damage into a reset with the lowkick whiff into sidekick whereas the lowkick whiff into teep gives you plus frames so you can then get a mixup for unguaranteed high damage? Very tekken-esque.
If your opponent or sparring partner has an aggressive style I'd say side kick to make them back of and to try something new it's also good for any situation and/or to recover that low kick but I feel like the teep would save energy is longer fights with a more skilled opponent and to just create distance If you missed and actually tried to use the low kick
Personally use both but I prefer sidekick if I am going Sanda/sanshao rules as I can get them further back or out of the ring. I have never had an opportunity to fight in a cage and I know that changes a bit. I defer to your experience on this one.
i always use this technique but as my way i do low kick next fast go teep kick like u but i dont miss dunno this work in real match or not thought its my exclusive move :D
Teep requires more precise timing than side kick: because side kick has far longer "pressure range". Not just the range itselfe, but range within it is effective in transmitting force to the opponent!
Side kick has harder impact from heel, lands you in bladed stance Teep has a bit more range since you can hip in, and let's u create more space. Lands you in a thai/hips forward stance I prefer teens normally, but prefer side kick off a missed round, as I like to b bladed to immediately bounce backwards/forwards
in my taekwondo days, I utilize the side kick too much because it's rarely used both sparring and in tournaments, so I use it too often when they try to rush in for a roundhouse or axe kick.
I did karate for like 3 weeks when I was little, but quit and did wrestling a year in middle and all 4 in high school. I’m bad, but I’ve improved and figured out how to improve. Wrestling season just ended but there’s still tournaments. However, I have impetigo and can’t wrestle. Thinking about picking up Muy Thai. Learn some basics and practice a bit at home, and when my impetigo is gone join a gym, or maybe jui jitsu since I already know how to grapple a bit. Judo would be cool too, but there’s not a gym near me. Boxing is also an option. Can’t wait to get in a gym though. I’m getting sick of sitting around
Depends on your stance really. Sideways is sidekick and straight is teep. However the sidekick is better from long range and can generate more power because it utilizes more muscles
The situation will dictate. I have been caught with the side kick the exact same way in sparring. The side kick is more dangerous then the teep in this particular instance.
I love using sidekicks to keep distance and frustrate people. Sadly most people can read the telegraph on any step-in sidekick hard enough to do real damage, so I normally use sidekicks off other kicks like here. Throwing one good step-in sidekick for damage and then feinting them to bait blitzes or takedown attempts is fun though.
Reserve your step-in side kick for when the opponent attacks, or for when they're in a lull, like taking a step and have one foot off the ground. Basically, whenever you can catch them off guard and/or they're in a position that's not conducive for them to retreat.
The teep was impressive as a defense technique, but lacked damage. It was more defensive. The side kick was amazing because of the power, timing, and unpredictability. Also, it was first used as a defensive maneuver, then was used as an offensive counterstrike. It was also premeditated. The side kick is much better.
I feel like it depends on how much you miss the low kick. I would go for a sidekick if I put a lot of power and miss but if I just wanted a small score and missed my hips aren't turned over yet
definitely the sidekick, Zhang Weili uses the sidekick almost any time she misses a lead leg kick and it has much more power than a teep kick could generate in that scenario
Seems like it's situational imo. If the back foot has already made it's pivot, then a side kick would flow naturally. If the initial kick was a feint, then the following strike could be either kick, but the teep allows for better control for strike accuracy and recovery speed back into your stance. I spar with this guy who out-classes me greatly on height, weight, reach, skill, flexibility and experience. Last week, I snagged his roundhouse kick 3xs, but, on the last one, he managed to rechamber into a side kick. Knocked the wind out of me and I left with a bruise on my sternum that looked like his big toe. 🤣
Which is better, side kick or teep?
Sidekick for sure. It’s faster and harder to read.
I like the idea of throwing a side kick after missing a low kick but I generally don’t like a side stance (for grappling purposes).
Teep is easier for those of us over 40, both have their place.
Both have their place, but side kick done well can be devastating if you hit the right place with the right timing.
I remember sparring one of the Karate black belts and he would PURPOSELY miss with round kicks just to misdirect a counter attack or drop his own. 🤢🤮🙏🏽
Finally, a use for all the Taekwondo training we did as our first martial art. …
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Yup that’s me lol. Quit after my black belt for a few years but I started Muay Thai with the intention of getting in the cage.
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@@mysterykingCCC I’m pretty nervous to be honest. I’ve always been a very timid person and I’m not sure if I’m made for it, but I want to be.
@@MilkTestingMan same bro, timid, didn’t like confrontation too much, the better you get and the better people you train with the more confident you get, all you can do is try
Side kick I’ve found does a lot more damage and is a smoother transition from the round kick as your hips will be rotated either way so it’s harder for them to see coming. I like to use an inside leg kick a lot, defensively and offensively, and bringing my leg to them then lifting as I chamber into a side kick is a very good way to hide the side kick so it doesn’t get caught as I can create distance and maintain a pace against my opponent.
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That JKD lead side kick is the most underutilized weapon in MMA imo.
Comes in at such a awkward angle and so hard to read.
Bruce was famous for using them as a extension of the his lead jab as well as throwing them with ferocious power and send people flying.
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Bruce Lee never fought professionally so how do you know what he did?
@@npcie117 because it came from the “trust me bro” source , the most reliable source of information in the world
@@bpswank429 Yet you wouldn’t fight Bruce Lee if he were still alive would you?
@@npcie117 you wouldn’t fight Bruce if he were still alive
I use the side kick a lot when I miss my lead leg kick. I think both are great but that's what I personally use 👍 .
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Seems like they both have their place, just depends on how committed you were to the initial low kick. A similar combo I picked up from a friend that does Sanda is swinging the kick all the way through, planting into a bladed stance, then throwing the side kick. Same idea, a bit slower and more powerful.
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TKD 2nd degree blackbelt here. the lead sidekick is one of the best defensive and even offensive kicks in my opinion. because it comes straight out like a jab its really hard to read and evade
If you use them both in unison you can create a lot more openings than you could using them individually, along with being fluid in switching stances you could say you’re boxing with your feet.
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Side kicks and spinning side kicks i feel are hugely slept on in MMA and will be used more and more
I've been really liking the side teep it's a variation in between a front and side kick Samart Payakaroon is known for this kick
I do the side kick as a recovery off a kick or when someone likes to blitz off a naked kick. It’s a good bait, and hurts like f$!& if you’re walking into it
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Exactly ^
I love the second one, it's my go to in sparring. Landed a solid liver shot with it last week
the side kick has alot of power as well as speed.the lead leg sidekick is a great counter to the roundhouse attacking that leg
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Totally agree. I love doing exactly that, especially against Muay Thai guys because hey don’t expect it at all
Ive been developing this technique, great to see it on here! Thanks man!
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Bro that’s smooth as usual
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this feels pretty nice to do
Nice. Was doing this tonight myself though I doubt with this elegance. It feels quite intuitive.
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Ayyyyy I do the same thing in sparring. I do it to switch stance when I miss so when they come in, it goes right into a side kick
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That was my first lesson learned when I first started sparring. I'd back away from their round kick, then I'd step back in. After getting hit with that follow-up side kick a few times, I learned to hang back for a few!
Dig in with the heel
Thanks for posting this Jeff.
no prob!!
That side kick tho
Nice!
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I think the side kick leaves u more exposed if you miss or if its dodged, but the benefit is you can switch between side kicks and hook kicks to throw your opponent off guard
Nice, thank you guys
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Nice combo man
thanks for watching!
That side kick looks pristine
But the teep would be less expected and probably quicker depending on what you mostly train
That’s a good oblique setup
Whoever said a side kick is useless in real fighting has never worn one, or learnt properly how to throw one. I love sparring with Muay Thai guys because they seldom expect a side kick follow up from a roundhouse - it’s a great combo
Ive found it works well against guys with the square muay thai stance aswell, cuz they get the full force flat on their torso as they arent bladed, and their short stance doesnt let them shift back quick to dampen it. With my more karate esque style and ~6 months of training, ive landed it on ppl who have trained for years and are much better than me in every area.
@@columodonnell9202 totally agree man. The flat and shallow stance that Muay Thai has wears a side kick pretty badly if and when one lands. And I find an average Muay Thai fighter just never sees it coming or even expects it, and often they take a while to adapt. I’ve also found crescent kicks (standard and reverse) as well as well timed heel kicks (not just spinning) are usually unexpected. But then I’ve always fought Muay Thai guys in light sparring and then they almost always get pissed off because they usually hate being hit with something they’ve never trained.
For me, I think ultimately good freestyle sparring is about simply seeing what works for you and it’s best when you have a respectful sparring partner that wants to look beyond styles and simply wants to be a good fighter. I think martial arts are going back to being factionalised even though the era of MMA supposedly broke down the barriers and created am open playing field - but it’s starting to turn full circle again back stylistic camps of “this and that”. Personally, a kick’s a kick - do what works, and I find side kicks work really well for me, thrown all sorts of different ways.
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i don't think i've ever heard anyone say side kicks don't work. especially the low oblique kick or khon lak pek in muay thai is lethal. also interestingly, traditional side kicks and heel kicks (both stationary and spinning) are supposed to be fundamental moves of muay thai and even the axe kick used to be taught in old school muay thai. but most gyms especially foreign ones don't really teach these. but some popular gyms in thailand still do. you should try sparring with some actual thai fighters.
An Australian TKD style Kickboxer used Side Teeps which is something you don't really hear about.
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Check out Samart for the side teep master.
Side teep= side kick?
Hit em with the Michael Jackson Teep
That should be Samart Payakaroon..
His side teep were the best i’ve ever saw, so effortless yet so deadly
I do this all the time off a trail leg Round Kick into a Side Kick
Love both. Side kick most underrated kick.
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Sanda guy use the lead side kick beautifully
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I like the shorts of the first bout.
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Thank you, I definitely will try this out
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Side kick for this specific feint they both very much so have their uses though
I really like that technique
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Real nice move
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You have impeccable dexterity🔥
I’ve got to try this during our Taekwondo sparrings
Hey JEFF. Great work. I’ve been seeing all the new stuff. Especially you and NATE I really liked. What I do, i use a roundhouse kick. Easy to score. Has risks. So, because I know people usually try to fast counter em. Use a roundhouse. Then a low kick, then a TEEP. 😉💯💥
sweet!!! thanks for watching!
I learned this watching Buakaw in his K1 days. The only MT fighter from Thailand to be immortalized there. ❤️🥊
I really like the side kick. I use it defensively a lot when my opponent is rushing or coming in with punches, I find it’s a unorthodox strike you can bait people into
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Both are great
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When I miss a low kick I finish the motion and bounce the foot off the ground into a side kick ( if that makes sense)
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Honestly idk both are pretty effective. But there is nothing like taking a sidekick from a tkd black belt. Feels like a blade stabbing into your stomach
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I say use both. I'm seeing the ideology that the sidekick is limited to a side/bladed stance, but a sidekick can be thrown from a square stance. It's not the traditional karate side kick but more like a front kick or teep, just with the hip and striking leg turned to the side to strike with the blade/heel (i believe I've also seen it in thrown this way in wushu / kung fu). At full extension it's kind of like your feet and knees are pigeon toed in relation to each other, the supporting leg facing forward and the striking foot in your opponent's midsection mostly horizontal. It has little to no telegraph, is more damaging than a teep and allows you to remain in hand range. It sounds awkward to describe but is simple when demonstrated and it works.
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Teep for maintaining distance, sidekick for causing damage
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Sidekick for both. One of the main reasons for sidekick is range fighting.
Staying at a distance and out the pocket
nice move !
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I use this tecnic with the sidekick, I think you can put more Power this way
Their are both good in my opnion, It just depends on the situation.
If you are trying to chase your opponent, or trying to set up for close distance, the teep is better because of the foward motion It offers, but If your goal is to keep distance, play in the long range, the side kick variation is the right choice.
Essentially speed v power
If you like to switch stance side kick is very reliable
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I actually do prefer the side kick more. However, there is no denying the efficacy of both. I think the big step you can take into a side kick is why I prefer it, you can practically cover more distance. I also find that it's easier to pull my leg out if it gets caught versus a teep.
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The sidekick can come right off the ground without much of a chamber to be faster and less of a tell.
On the defense man, patience is a virtue
I used to use the sidekick technique naturally. I would purposely miss a low kick then come back with the sidekick,I found it effective for me. I would even work on heavier opponents 🙂👍🏿
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i like i like
Light vs hard sparring
Ofc hardsparring is the best, but gotta keep it light to minimize brain damage and injuries.
Teep would allow a set up of counterattack, including the use of the upper body. It's better defensive positioning if the person fails to maintain distance.
However, side kick does have some advantages in competition and potentially force.
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Teeps the way Muay Thai fighters use them it is a thing of beauty.
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@MMAShredded Jeff Chan great example is a kickboxing match superbon vs grigorian in one championship. Superbon with that teep was a masterclass.
So these are essentially low kick whiff extensions where you get an option select of small but guaranteed damage into a reset with the lowkick whiff into sidekick whereas the lowkick whiff into teep gives you plus frames so you can then get a mixup for unguaranteed high damage?
Very tekken-esque.
Badly done defence with the hand going down
side kicking from missed kicks ive noticed is under rated every some have reasons for me not to do it because x y z
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If your opponent or sparring partner has an aggressive style I'd say side kick to make them back of and to try something new it's also good for any situation and/or to recover that low kick but I feel like the teep would save energy is longer fights with a more skilled opponent and to just create distance If you missed and actually tried to use the low kick
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i will never forgot the first time i got teeked
sidekicks expose your groin to accidental or not-so-accidental low blows. I prefer teeps because I am ready to throw punches after the kicks.
Personally use both but I prefer sidekick if I am going Sanda/sanshao rules as I can get them further back or out of the ring. I have never had an opportunity to fight in a cage and I know that changes a bit. I defer to your experience on this one.
i always use this technique but as my way
i do low kick next fast go teep kick
like u but i dont miss
dunno this work in real match or not
thought its my exclusive move :D
Teep requires more precise timing than side kick: because side kick has far longer "pressure range". Not just the range itselfe, but range within it is effective in transmitting force to the opponent!
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Nice nice never just drop your leg or arms after a strike 😃👍👍
Yup. I hurt my inflexible hips every time I even attempt to throw a side kick. I love them though they are beautiful!
Side kick has harder impact from heel, lands you in bladed stance
Teep has a bit more range since you can hip in, and let's u create more space. Lands you in a thai/hips forward stance
I prefer teens normally, but prefer side kick off a missed round, as I like to b bladed to immediately bounce backwards/forwards
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I've been trying to tell icy Mike about this move, he hates side kicks
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in my taekwondo days, I utilize the side kick too much because it's rarely used both sparring and in tournaments, so I use it too often when they try to rush in for a roundhouse or axe kick.
I did karate for like 3 weeks when I was little, but quit and did wrestling a year in middle and all 4 in high school. I’m bad, but I’ve improved and figured out how to improve. Wrestling season just ended but there’s still tournaments. However, I have impetigo and can’t wrestle. Thinking about picking up Muy Thai. Learn some basics and practice a bit at home, and when my impetigo is gone join a gym, or maybe jui jitsu since I already know how to grapple a bit. Judo would be cool too, but there’s not a gym near me. Boxing is also an option. Can’t wait to get in a gym though. I’m getting sick of sitting around
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Just depends on how much commitment the initial kick had.
Teep is sweet. But i like side kick alot
Depends… they are both extremely useful. I love the teep because I’m small and fast.
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Depends on your stance really. Sideways is sidekick and straight is teep. However the sidekick is better from long range and can generate more power because it utilizes more muscles
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In that situation i like sidekicks but most of the time i prefer teeps
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The situation will dictate. I have been caught with the side kick the exact same way in sparring. The side kick is more dangerous then the teep in this particular instance.
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A muay thai lowkick is the ultimate weapon. 3kicks and your opponent is not able to go.
I love using sidekicks to keep distance and frustrate people. Sadly most people can read the telegraph on any step-in sidekick hard enough to do real damage, so I normally use sidekicks off other kicks like here. Throwing one good step-in sidekick for damage and then feinting them to bait blitzes or takedown attempts is fun though.
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Reserve your step-in side kick for when the opponent attacks, or for when they're in a lull, like taking a step and have one foot off the ground. Basically, whenever you can catch them off guard and/or they're in a position that's not conducive for them to retreat.
cool
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I try this in Muey Thai sparring it usually don’t work for me, is usually end up getting sweeped, probably just gotta improve my timing
I feel like the side kick has more power but it's easier to follow up with the hands off the teep.
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In sparring it can work but im curious would u try it in actual mma fight , it doesn't seem like to have power behind it .
The teep was impressive as a defense technique, but lacked damage. It was more defensive. The side kick was amazing because of the power, timing, and unpredictability. Also, it was first used as a defensive maneuver, then was used as an offensive counterstrike. It was also premeditated. The side kick is much better.
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is this kickboxing or muay thai, or mma? i want to join!!
I feel like it depends on how much you miss the low kick. I would go for a sidekick if I put a lot of power and miss but if I just wanted a small score and missed my hips aren't turned over yet
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definitely the sidekick, Zhang Weili uses the sidekick almost any time she misses a lead leg kick and it has much more power than a teep kick could generate in that scenario
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Hwarang does that in Tekken 3
mix up with question mark. options
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Is that a yop tchagui ( TKD side kick) kick? If somebody can explain to me, I would be gratefull. Greetings from Brasil.
Seems like it's situational imo. If the back foot has already made it's pivot, then a side kick would flow naturally. If the initial kick was a feint, then the following strike could be either kick, but the teep allows for better control for strike accuracy and recovery speed back into your stance.
I spar with this guy who out-classes me greatly on height, weight, reach, skill, flexibility and experience. Last week, I snagged his roundhouse kick 3xs, but, on the last one, he managed to rechamber into a side kick. Knocked the wind out of me and I left with a bruise on my sternum that looked like his big toe. 🤣