Why VISTARA's B787-9 ECONOMY isn't as good as people say... | Delhi to Frankfurt | BRUTALLY HONEST
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- Long-Haul Economy Class aboard Vistara's flagship, and why I don't think it lives up to the hype.
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FLIGHT INFORMATION
Airline: Vistara (TATA SIA Airlines)
Aircraft: Boeing 787-9
Registration: VT-TSQ
Flight Time: 8h 30min
Seat: 45K
From: Delhi Indira Gandhi
To: Frankfurt Rhein Main
Date: May 2023
EQUIPMENT INFORMATION
Cameras used: Canon R6 (Canon 15-35mm F2.6, Canon 35mm F2.0, and Canon 24-105mm F4.0), DJI Osmo Pocket
Additional equipment used: Rode VideoMic Pro+, Blue Yeti Podcast Microphone
PRICE BREAKDOWN
Total Price: INR 37,073.00
Total Routing: DEL-FRA
Booked through: Vistara Website
Cost includes: Economy Class Ticket including two checked bags, plus seat reservation (INR 2,447.00)
Booking made: January 2023
VIDEO BREAKDOWN
00:00 - Introduction
01:00 - Intro
01:22 - Getting to the airport
02:36 - Vistara B787 Fleet
03:25 - Cabin and Seat
06:42 - Taxi and Take Off
08:32 - Lunch Service
10:28 - Entertainment System
12:13 - Inflight
12:40 - Pre-Landing Meal Service
13:51 - Conclusion
15:17 - Landing
16:17 - Outro
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Couldn’t agree more. I flew domestic with them in 2018 and was really excited to try Vistara long haul LHR-DEL in August. Meh at best, wouldn’t go out of my way to fly with them again unless the price was right.
I flew Vistara a few days ago and their cabin crew weren't friendly at all on my flight. I can totally agree with you David, Vistara isn't up to it's expectations
Vistara Crew are hit or miss to the extreme.
Possibly due to how they are treated
Being an Indian, I have found Vistara crew to be the most unfriendly when flying domestic.
@@s125ishdoesn’t excuse bad service. It’s your job, you’re getting paid to put up with people. Deal with it. Don’t like it? Then quit
@@clippervelocity6191not many people have the luxury of being able to quit as and when they want, it’s everyone’s responsibility to treat flight attendants with their best attitude since they are the ones getting served
yes I have heard a lot of mixed reviews about Vistara, for most part Flight crew based out of Delhi isn't that friendly compared to being based out of Mumbai or Bangalore. I didn't know VT-TSQ had Hainan's interior and not actual vistara interior, no wonder why they only flew one exact route to keep consistency. I assume your experience would have been different if you flew to Paris or London instead of frankfurt.
I had to take a flight with Vistara to report it on my CZcams channel but since there was war in Tel Aviv I couldn't do it anymore. I hope that in the future trip report will be about this! Nice video
I did travel in the same 787 VT-TSQ in august and then in September they did update the IFE system Programm like the normal 787s which vistara have
Hey David, awesome video. Here is some correction for VT-TSQ.
It is delivered originally for Hainan Airlines as B-206R, then it suppose to be transferred and sold to Bamboo Airways as VN-A828 but then COVID wiped out the airline's plan to take her in, then repainted and then transferred to Vistara as VT-TSQ. Still kept the cabin layout and seat type from Hainan Airlines Overall amazing video though :)
I wonder whether it's worth fighting for my right to look out of the window on Dreamliner? I've also encountered such a situation several times, that I pay for a seat near the window and then all of the windows are being forcefully dimed with no option foe each passenger to have a control over his/her own window. Wtf?
Vistara brand will stay for a few years. While the legal merger of Air India and Vistara will completed early next year, the brand merger will be done after 2-3 years when Air India reaches the service level of Vistara. So you can have a chance to take another long haul flight in their 787 and maybe next time, in the regular ones.
And I had to ask, you said you were three people travelling together. So were they Felix and Simon along with you ?
Actually I like the branding of vistara more than the old air india.. I’m thankful to tata team for giving the new air india similar hues of vistara and emirates..
It amazes me how many of these long-haul widebody aircraft do not have air vents in the ceilings...
I really wonder what is the cost difference with or without vents for airliners
Maybe airlines don't understand that air vents on the ceiling is important but it is for passengers like me. Now with air vents being get rid of, how do I make the passenger who is flattening down their seats Infront of my seats be uncomfortable??
Please do a Brutally Honest review on Qantas. They have a lot to catch up on! 😄
They have already flown with Qantas in the past, plus Qantas has been into controversies lately
@@gabrielb9010 What kinda controversies?
@@noahmygwell, they sold ghost flights, that were never even supposed to depart.
Agreed
@@gabrielb9010 that’s literally the whole reason of why he needs to do one. Qantas has been falling behind since the pandemic, due to the corruption of the CEO. So, he needs to confirm what Qantas needs to improve on.
Yeah, this just isn’t the airline it advertises itself as. Maybe in the future you should try Porter Airlines, as it’s quickly gaining popularity in Canada
Have you reviewed Wamos Air, the charter airline from Spain? Etihad will use Wamos for certain routes until January 2024 due to the lack of aircraft.
Curious what your final opinion would be if you'd been on one of their regular 787's?
This plane is flying Mumbai/Bombay to Frankfurt now. Will have to check if they've updated the entertainment system, hopefully they have.
I flew Dehli to Paris and they crew was so friendly. I was air sick and they helped me so yknow.
Whaaaat?? Vistara Delhi Crew Friendly??😮😮
Thats quite shocking for me. Honestly most of crew from delhi I met seems frustrated for no reason and Unfriendly.
Very comprehensive. I wonder why reading-lights aren't put in seat-backs. I'm sure they would be less disturbing to those trying to sleep.
I actually had a pretty good experience in Vistara from Kolkata to Delhi! The food service was good, the aircraft was clean, and the crew was nice for the most part.
I have travelled on the same sector 3 times, but it was on their usual 787s. The experience more or less matched what you saw, maybe the crew was a bit more friendly for me. Most annoying part for me was the window locking and security check at Delhi, which is so busy. For the price they offered I think it was fine, but certainly not comparable to ME3 carriers.
Middle eastern carriers are some of the best for India - EU/NA routes especially in catering, hard product and crew behavior, but their default baggage rules are way more restrictive than Vistara or Air India. I got a INR 30k flight via Vistara in MAA-BOM-FRA sector which is a steal considering Vistara gave me 46 Kg baggage allowance. Etihad on the other hand is also price competitive but only gave me 27 Kg by default and I had to separately purchase additional baggage. As a student on a budget, I would happily prefer Vistara.
I never flew international on vistara but I did fly domestic, from bangalore to amritsar. The service was extremely good and the crew was very kind.
Please review Lufthansa flight+train or Qantas London/Rome/Paris to Perth! Great video guys!❤😊
11:13 on Air India's ex-Delta B77L's VT-AEE, AEF, AEG, AEH, and AEI dont have those either.
Many airlines don’t offer a full bar service with the second meal. This includes British Airways in economy class. LHR-LAX and the second meal served was with tea, coffee, water or orange juice.
Yes they do
@@mh1793no they don’t. I’m a flight attendant
I will never get why in this day and age airlines still distribute those cheap headphones to EVERY economy class passenger. Probably 99% of those end up in garbage. Why don’t they just hand them out (still at no charge) only to passengers who really want them. I would bet it would reduce significantly at least this kind of waste.
Over-the-ears headphones are cleaned (foam replaced) and reused. In-ear headphones are recycled. They don't go to garbage.
None of them were thrown away. Just like the metal cutleries and pillow sheet, they were cleaned and reused by the catering services for the next flight. Except for the cotton that were put in the ear area, those were mostly disassembled and thrown away immediately
Do Vistara’s other 787s (and Air India’s 787s for that matter) feature gaspers?
10:10 The passenger in front of you is watching Chak De India!, a very famous Bollywood movie about the Indian women’s field hockey team who have to fight sexism, caste discrimination and rivalries between players from different states to try and make it to the World Championships
I absolutely can´t stand, when Dreamliner crews lock the Windowshades. What´s the point?
Maybe i want to watch a movie on my tablet during daytime or maybe i want to look at the lights of citys below during the night.
Locking it is absolutely pointless and restrictive.
I agree, and I avoid Dreamliners whenever possible, it’s a reprehensible practice.
David, I promise by 2024 end we will not have any more chaotic security check in Delhi.
Also, Vistara is an over hyped airline. The product is nowhere comparable to standard airlines like Etihad, Gulf, Oman etc. (I am not even comparing it to Emirates, Qatar)
I think next trip you must take Emirates A380 to Bali... I just want to know how about your experience because Bali just the one and only in Indonesia can accept A380 and the one and only just Emirates non stop from Dubai...
There are 3 airports in Indonesia that could served the A380 actually:
- Hang Nadim Airport, due to its status as alternative airport for Changi in case of natural and unforseen circumstances
- Soekarno-Hatta Airport, as the main airport of Indonesia and had seen an SQ A380 doing emergency landing there
- And lastly Ngurah Rai Airport, was planned as emergency airport by Qantas and other airlines for their A380 flights from Australia to East Asia but it never came into fruition until recently when EK decided to use A380 for it's flights to DPS due to unexpected high demand for the route
@@Kuricang31 Soekarno-Hatta Jakarta international airport don't have facilities and infrastructure for A380 especially in apron, maybe just Terminal 3 but it still too small for it..
I hear that Ngurah Rai Bali international airport just have 1 Gate for A380...
@@danaq5110 Yet an A380 had landed in Jakarta twice before. One for an emergency landing and the other one is when Airbus brought the plane during its Asia-Pacific tour. So yeah, Soekarno-Hatta Airport does have necessary infrastructure to accommodate an A380 lol
Biman Bangladesh Airlines also acquired two B789 from China's Hainan Airlines. Whereas Biman should have acquired more from Hainan Airlines.
Thank you for making high quality content! ❤
They also fly delhi - bali, 7.5hrs
Excellent trip report as always David!😸
Hey David can pls review China eastern airlines in a special plan its called the comac c919 they do one flight only that is Shanghai to Chengdu and back try business class
I think you should have reviewed the normal hard product instead of the exception.
I’m sorry you had a less than stellar flight. I think having Air India as its only benchmark at home, means the bar hasn’t been set very high in recent years. So of course, Indian travellers would be thrilled at the level of service Vistara provides and generate hype, but that same service will be basics expectations for the given flight duration, for others.
Also, expectations may not be met on every single flight, even the most well-respected airlines like Singapore, ANA, Qatar, etc. get things wrong once in a while.
Once in a while.... With Air India it's most of the times.....
So I have 0 expectations from AI, even after their fleet renewal, cabin upgradation, and service....
@@jonathanalvinrays..7070well your thoughts I see it in the positive way am sure they will improve
Ahh you can always tell where someone is from by the use of the word 'upgradtion'... it is not word used western English speaking countries as the noun to use is just 'upgrade'... I see colleagues confused when they see it in emails...
Yo I just noticed my house when he flew 😳 I saw the blue white building which is Ayushmann hospital at 8:18 I live in Dwarka so if someone bypasses by that area I can see the flights 😂
God the dimming on 787 windows is such a pet peeve of mine. I find it so annoying when they lock it!
Can u do air india mumbai to san francisco review it would be a great video
I think they have a while ago
I Find Indian Cuisine To Spicy For Me.Great Trip Report
That piece of bread is called a kulcha
I unfortunately had the same experience in premium eco in 2023. The premium eco in 2022 on vistara was a complete different ball game! Both were the same FRA-IGI routes., with a price difference of around 30% to eco for a not so premium product in 2023. I wrote an official complain as well, but no response from Vistara. In terms of soft products & cabin crew service, it is a negative sloping curve as well for vistara. Whereas Air India is getting a lot better with crew service and soft products currently
i watch all of your videos
and i love ty for the entertainment!
I would like Simple Flying to do a video on any Nepali Airline. I would like to know what they think of Nepal Airlines' a330-200s
Gurung and Thapa!!!!
Great flight and review, 6:06 😂😂😂.
Osaka is an awesome roster gem you got
Once I have started to pretend that I am a cow, I was treated very well by Vistara crew members.
Nice new video!
That’s not makke ki roti it’s called kulcha
When I watched these videos, that shit make me wanna travel a lot of places that I never been. Man I wish that I can have some money alot of money so that I can have my family together to travel from a different country or state.
This sucks really bad. I'm flying with them Delhi to Frankfurt because Paris to Delhi was good. No air vent is going to kill me
12:47 that looks pita, somewhat improvised I'd say. Certainly not any Indian bread. How did it taste like?
End of January I flew the return trip FRA-DEL, UK26. I really don't remember when reserving the seat that row 57 doesn't have a window. I was lucky because I'd booked 58. However, not a good seat because the fuselage narrows and there is certainly less shoulder width on the window seats meaning that most people will be rubbing shoulders with the middle seat passenger. Not good on the overnighter return to Delhi.
I'm not a monetizer so this is just for info czcams.com/video/AT8_Fdvu7Qc/video.htmlsi=39IiAyg76NpMyfqh
nice, another India flight; even if it’s leaving India
Great vid
If you believe In Indian advertisement you’re doomed😂
Hopefully their business class is better.
I am a frequent flyer, we have good experience, don’t care this review
From 2024 There No Vistara 😢😢😢
Recently I flew with Vistara from Frankfurt to Mumbai. Most of the things were good except the service by cabin crew. Some of them sounded were very rude with passengers, some of them were improperly trained to serve food, and everybody had serious faces as though they don't give a fuck about anything.
NICE
I wouldn't be impressed about anything with a 787 Nightmare Liner. Give me an a350 any day.
The food don’t look good. Good report!
When you mentioned premium economy, you implied that the class offered better meals than economy class does.
I've never found that to be true on other international flights, as First Class, Business, Premium, and Basic Economy all get the same meal. The only difference is whether it's served on fine China, Plastic, Paper, or Styrofoam..
Yay another brutally honest
Wait…WHAT?!
Nowadays Air India is charming front of vistara airline. 😅❤
The reason why Vistara is deterioating is because TATA's focus is now mainly on Air India and they have already announced that from 2024 onwards they will merge vistara with Air India with the pilots and the fleet. So TATA dosen;t seem to care abt vistara anymore since its now gonna be air india from 2024
Excellent review.
So much better than Nonstop-whining-Dan.
A grand ambition let down by indifferent, lack luster and extremely rude inflight and ground staff. At least their rudeness is consistent.
Most awaited review.....
Nah
Thats unlucky for the plane but it could be better but it could be worse
In one of the Indian languages i.e Hindi, we often mockingly say to people who are insecure and fringe, "Ye le mithai kha. Muh meetha kar apna" which roughly translates into sweetening the sour tone of some hyper jerk assholes.....
That's what many Flight Review people do. Vistara is not the Flag/National carrier of India, which is Air India. But Vistara in several terms is better than AI, but nothing compared to SIA, Qatar Airways, Etihad Airways, Emirates, BA, Delta, etc....
It's good to have better harsh reviews than numbness soothing approach. Hope people take it positively..
Casablanca to douala
Doesn't sound like an upbeat carrier!!!!!!!
vistara is my fav airline
i genuinely wonder why tho
?@@m3redgt
the experience is good@@m3redgt
Yeah. Probably better than Air India no doubt...
I never flown air india tho@@jonathanalvinrays..7070
UGANDA AIRLINESS
Wakaliwood bruh
Point of view and evidence explained clearly of why this airline is not the best in 2023 📌.
hi
Use the correct map of India
Vistara is incredibly mid
Air India is leeching off SIA's investment. The service standard will remain to be seen. The unhygienic aircraft is inframous. What a disgrace being the flag carrier that Vistara will. be part of.
:(
I flew Vistara two weeks ago Delhi to Hong Kong in a321 economy and was disaster. Odour in plane was like public toilet haven’t been cleaned for days, catering was uneatable. Probably my worst flight I ever flew and I fly at least once per week. Avoid Vistara
Vistara is better than Air India. Air India is the worst FSC in the world.
India's airlines, NO THANKS
Why?
Rename your channel to “Simply ECONOMY Aviation”, since you’re not able to do anything else ffs
We've got some Business and First Class videos coming up soon! :)
99% of the people here fly economy, so it is just reasonable that he doesn't do a lot of first and business...