THE FIRST DPS Sustain Hybrid | Aventurine CN Analysis
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- Complete Honkai: Star Rail guide for Aventurine with reference from the CN Community. Our first-ever DPS Sustain Hybrid enters Penacony, heralding a new era of Sustain utility. Aventurine is a 5-star Preservation that can comfortably sustain your entire team on top of dealing respectable damage over time with his FUA and Ultimate. Not only can he excel in a FUA comp or Acheron comp, players will quickly realize how the additional chip damage from Aventurine can be beneficial for any stage in HSR.
This video will thoroughly cover his character kit, eidolons, energy threshold, speed threshold, relics, lightcones, and team compositions.
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00:00 Intro
00:53 Character Kit
05:24 Sustain and Damage
08:13 Eidolons
11:47 Energy Rotations
13:50 Relics
17:50 Light Cones
20:49 Team Comps
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#honkaistarrail #hoyocreators #aventurine - Hry
Bro gambled with his life just to prove a point, aventurine is 2 hair shades away from talking about "hope and despair"
He already is. The first thing that popped into my mind when I saw him is "Nagito".
If he truly trust the Gaiathra protecting him, he essentially can create a situation where he would not die. After all, he can feel whether the dead are calling to him, or not as seen by his 2.1 story.
and his whole thing is abt luck 😭😭 actual gacha nagito komaeda
jokes aside i've been asking hoyo "Komaeda Nagito banner when" in every review since genshin 1.0 just for fun, and finally, lol
he has sad backstory, talks about hope in his quest, plays russian rulette pulling the trigger multiple times, has ultimate luck and sassiness, threatens to blow up everything, gambles with his life IN SIMULATION and wins :D
we know what you are Mr. Shaoji
(there was references to Danganronpa before, for example Sparkle quest with her body discovery with the exact style etc)
@@sidnairaindanganronpa fans are winning so hard in penacony
One more thing, his placement
It's better to put him in middle, either 2nd or 3rd place cause he and his teams will get benefit from getting hit
He's the only sustain that actually want his entire team to get hit for his FuA
More hit = more FuA = more break, damage, energy, and shield
Gepard Wanted that as well so not the first.
@@aidanarmaggeddon gepard doesn't really need his team to get hit, HE need to get hit but he already a built-in aggro anyway so it's not really important
Idk bro, i put my tingyun on d far right 4th player slot and she get hits everytime everywhere 😢
@@Cantpaybills dont you know she has 200 aggro value? for reference, preservation units have 150...
She has 225 taunt value actually@@BullyHunter501
just throwing it out there, the real gamba is the 50% effect res
and Blind Bet stacks from ult to get the achievement
Got this achievement on the First try on auto Mode 🫣didnt know u could get an achievement for that
Realllll ngl just noticed when u mentioned
@@manuashigaru7534me too that's crazy 😂😂😂 I discovered the achievement after i got it 😂😂😂
One more thing that's great about the effect res increase for all units is that you have more chance of resisting things like dots which can often eat your health. Effect res is crazy good value for sustainability.
Its so undervalued when its a prevention of everything.
I like how hoyo give new Healer cleanse ability and give new Shielder high effect res so you don't even get cc'd or DoTs.
Ah yes. 50% effect res is 'crazy' good. Calm down bro its a coin flip .
@@SolarionEX that's not the point but ok 😅 what, do you expect him to have full resist like fu xuan does? That's just one time per skill though.
@@SolarionEX the fact that you said its a coin flip shows how you don't really understand how Effect Res works.
Let me guess, for you 75% EHR is also 3/4 chance of applying debuff to enemies?
Lol.
My crit def pieces finally have a use
"Aventurine can't be main Dps"
Wait until GodDoggos tries to build him as one for the hell of it, and then we'll see lol.
Lol he already did, hit 100k on ult in MoC
Bronya has the only defense buff in the game iirc. Kind of funny actually for dps aventurine.
Just to put it out there his dmg is like a 4 star on mid relics
Not the Aatrox quote 0:12 ☠️
The league brain rot got him
Nah the aatrox phonk edits hit different
Yanking finally getting a buff
young king
Totally underrated character😢 Hopefully Adventurine gives good enough utility for him not to sit in the trash
Didn't watch the full vid. How did he get buffed?
He doesnt lose his soulsteel sync if a shielder can prevent him from losing his health. Geppard exists but hes just okay while Aventurine has crit vuln, sizable dmg, and synergy with yangquing followup.
This is not Dehya@@kooweijing9061
i love how he mentions about obtaining other important eidolans or signatures on other chars as it holds more value before pulling further into adventurine. Saves alot of resources that way. Thanks ma man
thank you for the analysis
good quality video mr poke
Acheron banner I got bailu and now jingliu lc banner I got bailu lc💀
That's cursed.
Im glad Pokke still do CN analysis
Ok I've decided to pull for Aventurine, build his relics for damage and use gepard lc. Now I'm waiting for topaz rerun.
We have the same Ver Ka Wing Gundom (the box on your dresser)
Im planning on painting mine like Sephiroth.
Have you built yours yet?
Give this man a space bar 😂 ty mrpokke
"All the best for your Aventurine pulls---" he cursed as naturally as he breathed
Doesnt the EHR from Gepard’s LC give him more action delay on break, sorta like Sustain Welt? If so than AventuRuan might be a crazy sustain/amplifier core for lower tier DPS like Arlan/PhysMC/Misha/Yanq, cuz the Misha Freeze/Ruan Mei delay/Imprison combo sounds kinda nice if so
Wat? Ehr =/= break effect
INSANE intro holy
Nice informative vid again.
Might we get updated or first vids on old unites?
Would love to see those as well.
Is E0 Aventurine with 4* lightcone recommended to pull for the sustain slot on e0s1 acheron team compared to fire mc/e2 gepard?
If i were in your shoes, I would go for more harmony characters than sustains. Gepard with trend lc is enough for e0s1 acheron team. Don't waste your pulls if you are an f2p player and save your pulls for either broken healers or broken supports.
Our first dps sustain hybrid
Welt: Now, I'll take that personally
Nuclear drama incoming
aventurine really out here hitting the same numbers as my topaz outside of her ult
Please Mr. Pokke I would love to see a guide on which relics to keep and what to look on them, there actually not a single guide on efficient relic lvling
Edit: I meant like, for example, if I got a 3 stat relic with 1 Crit stat and in +3 it didn't go another crit stat, should I still gamble?, what if I still gamble and in +6 it goes crit again so I have 1 roll im crit stat but its a 3 liner with no double crit stat, there's not a single guide that really takes those scenarios and give feedback about efficiency or resource waste
Pls give this man commet recognize
He's pretty much said the only domains worth farming are quantum, DOT/FUA if you use those units and Acheron's debuff set. Beyond that look for crit on pieces for crit dps and look for Speed on supports.
wdym, you keep relics with main stat and at least 1 relevant stat out of 3, it might be cd/cr, speed, hp or even break effect depending on the character you are building
you might also wanna keep relics wifh useful 2p and really good substats in case one day they become the best for a certain character or you need to quickly build someone up with a rainbow set
Respectfully you just need to trash double crit sphere
13:25 a def% main stat gives 54% not 43%
That intro goes hard.
With Acheron, DHIL and Sparkle + aiming for Kafka, blackswam and ruanmei, what you guys suggest as my First Limited sustain, huohuo, fuxuan or aventurine? I Dont Go for eidolons or cones
Aventurine should work well for all your teams but Huo Huo will be slightly better for a Kafka/Black Swan/RM team. Honestly I suggest Aventurine, Fu Xuan is very good but she eventually burns out in certain battles.
All 3 of them are strong, but lean towards different niches. TL;DR - Huohuo is great for DOT teams and is simple to use, Fu Xuan is great for Crit-based hyper carries but has some trouble in specific situations in the hardest content in the game, and Aventurine is great with follow-up teams as well as Acheron.
Huohuo is probably the most "valuable" pick. She has the best cleansing in the game, her healing is strong and mostly automated, and her ultimate is universally useful, with maybe the exception of Acheron. She will lack burst healing though, unless you get her lightcone. She is the best healer for DOT-based teams.
Fu Xuan is great for Crit-based hyper carries because she has a native +12% crit rate for the entire team in her kit. She also is pretty much unkillable in most content in the game. A lot of enemies are weak to Quantum too, so she has good use in breaking enemies in AOE situations. However, she will have a hard time in the upper echelons of Swarm Disaster and Gold and Gears, as the hyperbuffed bosses can one shot her at full hp with their aoe attacks.
Aventurine looks like he will be strong everywhere. There's not much in the game that will be able to get past his shields, so he is also effectively unkillable like Fuxuan, and he indirectly provides +15% crit damage to the team through his ultimate's debuff. He is also the premier follow-up attack sustainer, as he has good synergy with them and his talent. A lot of enemies are weak to imaginary, so he'll be able to apply a lot of weakness breaks to weaker enemies or single bosses just by existing. He also has great light cone flexibility, so many F2P options work great on him. Finally, he's probably going to be Acheron's best sustain slot-in.
i have seen these 2 characters so much i learnt how to read that 💀
should i pull aventurine?
I don’t have any of the preservation characters like fu xuan and gepard, but i do have the market lc for acheron team. I have all the abundance units but i feel like i also need preservation for certain contents in the game like swarm as the enemies just one shots regardless
if u doint have FXuan yet, Aventurine will definitely helps
Yeah he is very good. You already have 2 premium sustains though so it’s not a must pull. But if you think the shields are worth using for Acheron teams and definitely for SU he will be worth it.
what about sigonia plannar set for avanturine
10:31 i dont get it why with ruan mei his dmg output is lower??
Since damage % buffs are additive with each other, the percentage increase in damage from the E6 is more impactful for a team without Ruan Mei than a team without her.
The comparisons are:
Damage of team without RM
vs Damage of team without RM and with E6.
Damage of team with RM
vs Damage of team with RM and with E6.
So it’s not that adding Ruan Mei decreases the damage. It’s just that you’re boosted so much by Ruan Mei already that the % increase in damage you’ll see without the E6 vs with E6 won’t be as dramatic.
@@requinox ohh so it is just a diminishing return of too high dmg bonus right?
@@tonberry_ Yup!
For aventurine ulti, can it be resist? I noticed that it does not mention the “base chance”
It's guaranteed
I had Luocha and Fuxuan, should i pull Aventurine or waiting for Huohuo rerun?
I'm in your situation and got aventurine because now I have all the types of sustains (healer, shield, fu xuan). I probably won't pull another sustain again unless a new type of sustain comes out that's different from the rest like fu xuan.
How about fua relic set guys?
Between Adventurine and Fu Xuan who is better preservation unit? I have Luocha and i need a second sustain
fu xuan for hypercarry teams, aventurine for fua
Now I'll wait for a Destruction character that scale off defense.
Bust ...Or maybe I'll take it all!
If a gepard with a increase taunt trace + LC with increased taunt + preservation role taunt level doesn't get hit consistently then expecting that to happen with adventurine feels like a total cope.
I mean it depends on how you want to define consistent. If someone's head is mixed up and they think consistent means 99% of the time, well yeah. But if you're being reasonable and just saying, hey they have a significantly higher chance to get targeted, even compared to other preservation characters, then yeah. It's pretty consistent.
I think consistency is a word that means something other than what you think it means. You can expect either him or this character as a preservation unit, with that light cone, to get hit frequently compared to everyone else. Consistently. It's not variable over a period of time.
It's not the best word to use. A hard percentage would have been better. But it's not wrong.
How much Trend lightcone is worse than Gepard lightcone? I want to get extra debuff for Ratio or Acheron.
U will just lose bunch of defence stats . Like around 200 to 300 base defence. I haven't included extra defence substats from relics like defence percentage. So it might be higher. If your Acheron team can clear enemies within 3 to 4 cycles, then it shouldn't be a problem( assuming ur team has decent HP like 3K to 3.5K to tank DMG if the shield isn't enough)
Trend if running with acheron.
Gepard lc if running ratio = more aventurine stacks. Ratio can easily have others fulfill his conditions.
Does aventurine save Yang quing?
where's the dps calculations if he's dps/sustain?
Just a reminder: 50% EFF RES IS NOT A TRUE 50%!!
The formula for EFF RES:
Actual Chance = Base Chance x (1+EnemyEHR) x (1-EFFRES) x (1-DebuffResist%)
For an example, enemies at higher levels have higher EHR (70=16%, 80=24%, 90=36%). All debuffs, including CCs have a base chance of 100%, excluding Kafka's Spirit Whispher which is 120%. The debuff resist part of the formula is only for traces in character kits that resist things like CC, such as Luocha having a 70% CC resist.
For a trial formula, we'll use a level 90 enemy (MoC or SU enemies) with no debuff resist and just the 50% EFF RES boost
100 x (1+.36) x (1-.50) = 68% Chance.
Please consider this when using Aventurine as a sustain.
Tldr it's bad?
@@SircielIt's not bad, just that you shouldn't rely on the 50% for resisting debuffs. You still need some amount of eff res for your chars, so just don't rely only on him.
@@Ca1Ku damn so bailu tier?
@@Sirciel No he's an amazing character, it's just the effect res isn't something THAT crazy
*Natasha is the first DPS sustain hybrid* She helped me clear a boss in SU when all of my teammates were down in the first cycle, all by herself, she took down a boss.
if I have gepard's light cone, should I pull for aventurine's signature if I got only 140 pulls?
Not really a must, gepard's lc give him enough defense
It's also fit him tho as he will most likely get hit
Pull for his sig if you're planning to build him as a dps sustain. Otherwise, use your Gepard lightcone.
Def and Aggro increase, what's wrong with it?
@@ninthfriend3347Gepard's lc is already second best for his dmg, seeing as they don't have a lot of pulls it might be better for them to just use what they have.
@@LodestarAndNightfallthat's my mindset with it.
He's going to have a bigger dps increase by being targeted more anyway.
I loss to e2 Acheron, now im guaranteed to get adventurine.
Instead of Ruan Mei for the topaz and ratio team who would be a good substitute?
Tingyun or Pela are great f2p options
Wait 3 weeks and get lucky on the next banner
I won him in 50/50 so got to build him and watch this video
POKKE BUILDS GUNPLA? didnt know
Guys is it good if im building full defense on relics with speed boots?
Yes if you don't have his signature
FIGHT OR BE FORGOTTEN
I honestly quite impressed with his personal damage - i pulled his light cone so obviously that helps a lot but his ult is at level 6 and all his relics are at lv 12 or below and he was hitting up to 80k ults plus 40k FUAs fully buffed up. For my account this is quite a bit of damage 😅. He’s also SO FUN in Simulated Universe I’m super happy with his performance!
Is that Aatrox voiceline in the intro?
Jup
We bout to gamble with aatrox and aventurine
FIGHT OR BE FORGOTTEN🔥🔥
IT'S ALL OR NOTHING🔥🔥
Not me waiting for the "SUBSCRIBE" and the pull Ups only for it to never arrive 😢
What's the best replacement for Topaz in the Ratio team?
slot me in
Just run another harmony like tingyun or debuffer like SW or Pela
Hopefully I won't get again MrPokke's Bailu curse on my pulls! I spent everything on Acheron and have just enough tickets to get one 5 stars and I really want to replace my 4 and 4.5 stars sustains
Good luck everyone if you're going to pull for Aventurine
well i saw the 50 min vid. lets watch this one
E0S1 in 40 pulls, zesturine rlly wanted me
Blessings of pokke
I got him e0s1 with 20 pulls
I got him e0s1 without pulling
@@beckersmit807 damn
I got e1s1 in 1 pull. Fo real.
If i can hit 4k defense with just defense rope, should i still build defense boots? or should i switch to speed boots for sp generation and Bingo! reset?
Drop either. 4k is plenty and you get massive diminshing returns going above it. Try to find pieces witb crit stats you your main def stats can get you 4k defense.
Was considering aventurine until i got gepard e2 on way to acheron e2.
Honestly his stack generation is busted with it and he allowed me to laugh in evil meka aventurines face when he and sparkle lost the dice roll.
He finally pronounced Aventurine correctly 😭
I run a E0/S1 hypercarry set up with Aventurine, E2 Ruan Mei, E1 Sparkle, & E2 Bronya.....His ULT hits for 185k 92.2% CR & 200%CD & with a ERR Rope he literally ULTS so much but his DEF will be under 4K so i stick to a DEF% rope. He is literally the best sustain unit in the game period. Fu Xuan could never!
i reached almoat 60k Shield in Gold & Gears. not sure if its normal. but it was a first time experience with me with Aventurine. and i was invincible. lol.
It is normal he trivializes simulated universe
its possible to get even more with gepard or even march. su shouldnt be used as a mesurement for anything, especially gng cause you can reach thousands of bonuses %
@@homudark why mention march when she shields only one person...
@@rolf1819 you will get shields on everybody on the team because of preservation blessings tho? it was literally just an example...
Cant wait to try him in SU with full Presevation team
I tried, Elation suits him 100 times better
Did 320k with a copium aventurine today. Actually more than a single target acheron ult. No idea how he pulled that off.
if you dont build dps then you arent a gambler
lol, the march emote uid censor
My aventurine did 320k damage in sim universe today. His build sucks too its just gepard relics. Aventurine is awesome
Finally a worthy opponent on JL blade duo
13:25 it's actually 54% defense which is even worse 😅
I don't know how I'm supposed to hit 4k defense with just Def boots and Rope lol. I'm running 3 Defense pieces on him with a def LC and only at 3630.
Make sure to have def substats
@@amp-le4699 You would need like 20 def% on every piece to hit 4k with only 2 def mainstats. Maybe with his or Gepards lightcone, but I don't have those.
@@Zer0Hour17 ahh yeah if youre S0 it's certainly harder :( good luck, man
Actually personal dmg just bit higher than fuxuan. Fuxuan gives 24 CV to team while Aventurine ult 15 CV against only one enemy. So plus minus, the same haha.
No pull value out of 10???
Damn, so happy to see everyone be happy with their aventurine. Meanwhile me here lossing 50/50 to white haired sassy kid:Why are still here? just to suffer.
Well atleast i got Acheron on 27 Pity on 50/50
I'm kinda curious how well he'd work with Kafka team with trend
Lets go first
Why is my hp still draining with shield on?😢😢😢😢
My Aventurine has 4000+ defense btw
Well are they destroying your shield
@@sparkle1450 no, the shield is never down, but my hp “drains” on its own😭
@@emilyemslee what’s your team
@@sparkle1450 Acheron, Pela, Silver Wolf, Aventurine (in this order)
And Acheron died
Is it because enemy’s debuffs penetrated?
Finally , someone can use my 246th DEF chest
There are no real f2p alternatives to his signature for a proper hybrid build, in my opinion, as you can't get near 4k Def with both CritDmg chest and Imaginary% sphere with any other lightcone, unless you get like 20% Def on each non-Def% relic... I'll stick to my current build: 3.8k Def, 157 Spd, no CritDmg at all... shield bot is the way, I guess
If you want the super mega ultra cracked tech, keep aventurine in the 2nd or 3rd party slot so that he gets the maximum number of BB stacks from enemy blast attacks
Guys, if you have a decently built Aven remember to just NOT skill at all. I’ve beat current moc 12 on both sides, and I still haven’t skilled on Aven since I got him
(DPS build) When putting on auto I recommend swapping out the Imaginary Sphere for Def. Imaginary Sphere Aventurine is a little too squishy for my liking.
My logic is that he's there to be sustain first, damage second. If he cant sustain he shouldnt be on the team.
He can sustain more than enough with crit damage, def img def. You can still hit 4k def which is more than enough. My aventurine is only 3.6k def cuz not fully built and he sustains more than enough. That's why hes better with an offensive build because even with offensive build you will have no problem sustaining.
@@TheRedOGRE I had 4.2k def on him with Img Sphere and did some testing on auto with an Acheron team. I noticed the auto AI seems to really hates using his skill until after damage digs into characters' HP. Thats fine on calyxes but I was testing against weekly bosses and my (admittedly underbuilt) Pela got cut down to ~20% health against the Swarm boss real quick. I did some more testing with a Def Sphere, and Pela only dropped to 50 so she can tank one more big AOE hit.
My recommendation is more so a safety thing for farming. Obviously for MOC or PF I'd recommend going with Img Sphere since those gamemodes have a timer. When I play manually Aventurine's shield uptime is fine with Img Sphere, because of the Skill-Basic-Basic rotation. I don't have Topaz, so I can't test this, but I'd imagine his shield uptime (on Def Sphere) is much better in a FUA team even on auto so maybe FUA Aventurine doesn't have this problem.
random aatrox quote ok
damage tier c ICANT
Dont say 4k, i saw Aventurine with 6.5k def effortlessly, with his sig LC and 150% cdmg on stat. Insane. Powercreep is soooo real. I thought the effect just miniscule, but it's vice versa.
Can see the difference itself between gepard LC vs Aventurine LC. 24% vs 40% def buff.
That’s because Gepard and his LC are standard banner items, while Aventurine & his LC are limited. Standard are always worse than limited. And Gepard’s LC reached 48% DEF, more than Aventurine’s.
I did a 1x pull on the LC banner at 0 pity (non guaranteed) and I got his LC. I guess I gotta get him now lmao
U can use his lc on fire MC since his damage scales from defence.
only 20 pulls and u already got him?
after ur nuclear Acheron pulls?
ur'e far from relatable now.. om
135 views in 1 min? Fell off
I personally think that if you pull Aventurine with Acheron in mind, his Sig LC debuff is not needed for faster ult generation since Trend would probably still generate more stacks for Acheron.
Just something to keep in mind for F2P/Low spenders who maybe feel pressured to pull it for their Acheron. It was revealed to me in a dream that you should save for a certain upcoming Nihility support instead ;)
I have 50 pulls for 50/50 and won the gamble to get adventurine ❤
Had 110 tickets saved up, just to get Himeko, ended up dropping $30 and got TWO copies of him 🤩🥳
No light cone for me tho cause not using him for dps and I don’t wanna spend still hurting from Acheron lol. She’s very happy with the extra crit dmg tho 😮💨
hi
I have never been more on the fence about getting a character. On the one hand, his shielding looks super strong and comfy. On the other hand, having his ability to deal with CC being completely RNG for most characters is awful, especially if you want to run him in a hypercarry comp. RNG removal would have been way better than RNG resistance.
135 views in 48 seconds
His dmg is kinda meh tho
IT'S ALL OR NOTHING
Guide making is easier if you know Chinese
There’s no way this mf seriously said AV does damage 😭
wait aint no way aven is the first "dps sustain" bro just forgot about Fu Xuan
Fu xuan doesn't dps.
@@TheRedOGRE she has an ult and basic just like aventurine. His fua isn’t anything to write home about. While fu xuan can nuke things with her ult
@@rico9815 in which universe did you see fu xuan ult nuking?? 💀
@@debraj400 lmao bro I use fu xuan myself and her ult be doing hella dmg believe what you wanna believe.
Dps sustain 😂 his dmg is to mid to called a dps 😂
Hit 320k with him so yeah. His damage adds up.
His damange is kinda garbage tbh
Fr yet they treat him like a dps
at e0, s0, or outside of a fua team his dmg is so overrated 💀
Are you comparing him to a DPS when he is a sustainer? No shit sherlock.
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