$1 VS $2000 Aventurine
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- čas přidán 28. 06. 2024
- Complete Honkai: Star Rail guide for Aventurine's Eidolons with in-depth testing of his sustain and damage capabilities from E0S0 all the way to E6S5 across different teams.
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00:00 Intro
00:20 Testing Method
01:34 E0S0
05:58 E0S1
11:26 E0 + Gepard's Light Cone
14:00 E1S1
17:26 E2S1
20:26 E4S1
22:56 E6S1
25:02 Are The Eidoleons Worth It?
25:40 E6S5 FuA Team
28:23 MOC12 Aventurine Full Auto
30:10 Outro
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Saw one chatter saying "good thing he's using E6 Jing Yuan to keep the damage numbers relatable" LMAO
sustain that does 280k against 40 img res💀
...at e6s5 with e6s5 teammates yea
Topaz e6s5 carry hard
@@jonnevitu4979still a sustain against 40% img res
@@Lazi-2k24 still an e6s5 unit with Topaz also at e6s5 buffing thr shit out of that follow up atk lol, what is 40 res to that?
@@jonnevitu4979 he is still just a shielder. The dmg is just a nice bonus. Do u really expect a shielder to do the same dmg as a hyper carry? It's like you wanna do luocha dps just because his ult does dmg
Video: Adventurine showcase
Twitch chat: WAJAJA OURGENERAL E6 JINGYUAN 😂
Ironic how the chat was paying more attention to the E6 Jing Yuan
I like how chat just laughing at e6s5 jy doing the same as e0 archon
archon? kek
Tbf, both seele and jingyuan has trash edilions.
@@tayyabo yeaa truuu the gap between seele & JY eidolons with 1.2+ character eidolons is insane.
@@mrconan400 indeed, the only food edilion for jy is like e1 and e6 I think, not sure about seele.
His ult does the same dmg as my e2 clara with s1 secret vow
Jing yuan got violated 💀
I really do feel like sustain that can do this much dmg is kinda timeless. He can allow for weaker dps to be played and still be good enough to protect the entire team.
who pulls for e6 aventurine and has argenti as main dps🤣
@@marknavarro4592 me I do. I have a weird fetish of seeing my sup do more dmg than my dps.
@@hentikirby7142 Actually pretty based
From the bright side, Moment of Victory is good enough comapratively AND comes with built in taunt value... Saves money pulling S1. Can save it for Jiaoqui, as "support" Eidolons are generally better, looking at Black Swan E1 e.g. its kinda nutty to give that much All Res Pen + enemies will usually be shocked from Acheron for another Lightning res pen.
@@marknavarro4592 argenti is my one of my favorite characters so I would still use him if I had an e6 aventurine :)
Doesn't matter how many targets there are his damage remains consistent cuz his FuA is a bounce type attack
??, If enemies have different debuffs wouldn't they take different amounts of damage?
@anonnymus6355 that's still consistent damage, consistent ≠ same
If his FuA is aoe based and each target receives around 20k then his damage goes from 40k 2 target to 100k 5 targets that's what i would consider inconsistent
Yes, many person think his dmg scales off with the enemy amounts, when it's not. In fact, his dmg would be lower in general on multiple enemies if there are single target debuff like proof of debt.
@@saddany3254 unrelated but for some reason I thought your pfp was TF2 soldier
Doesn't his LL targets dead enemies? Like, if it kills someone other hits might target them again.
@mrpokke does not even make any comment on 370k FUA from a sustainer in 28:09
btw, it would be interesting to see e6s5 aventurine as hypercarry, just to see how it would fare
if only E0 was actually $1. I would buy one.
It's technically $2001 vs $4000. E6 5star damage dealer doesn't just materialize out of nowhere.
except that my $0 dps does more dmg than JY
Doesn't change Aventurine's performance in the slightest, and the same dps is used with every other step which also keeps it consistent.
If you're just testing the difference between Aventurine changes, as long as the rest is kept constant, it wouldn't even matter if he had a $1million dps. He's not testing how fast he can clear overall; just in comparison to the first run.
No, it’s a test of “1$” vs $2000 in terms of sustaining, not damage. Using an E6 dps won’t affect Aventurine’s shield sustaining at all.
Not timelyratiorine they got e6s5 while only on esp and bp in under 600 pulls some people luck is insane
It's either go big or go home
third option is to go small fuxuan rerun
Not E6 Aventurine outdamaging E6 Jing Yuan 😂 Holy relatable showcase as usual. Well I guess the first part was interesting. Basically don't try to run sub DPS Aventurine as fully skill point positive unless you like seeing your teammates in the red. I think if he was built full tank it would have been fine though. Arguable how much it matters using only basic attack when you're already super slow. Building him like a Gepard is probably his best sustain build, well I guess you can skip the ER rope.
Pokke's chat is obsessed with jingyuan 😂😂
300k as sustain is crazy💀
Fu xuan does a lot of dmg too at e6s5
@@gabiblackNot 300k
@@gabiblackno. you know that aventurine ult is single target and it can reach 300k fu xuan are aoe ult damage so they’re not the same
Topaz e6s5 carry him
@@gem_ola6642 his topaz are e2 💀
Mr.Pokke going from F2P Relatable Streamer to "Relatable Whale" 😂
Edit: The C6 Aventurine isn't his account. Thank you for telling me ❤️
Dont think the e6 aventurine is his account
Its not his acc
He's been doing this series for a long time and its not his account
Genuinely, respectfully, relateable
Doesn't matter bro has e6 Acheron
E6 Jingyuan btw
That dinosaur damage reduction is quite annoying in a cycle limited content. Then there's boss Aventurine having a stall mechanic on the other side.
If you think about it the damage skyrockets if you put Aventurine with someone that does a lot more follow-ups
So characters like Ratio, Clara and Topaz which can do multiple follow-ups in 1 cycle and supercharge Aventurine
Not sure if his signature is worth the jades for sustain, sure it's more damage, but with Gepard LC taunt increase he just might get targeted enough to pop off more of those FuA, so the difference only matters if you really, *really* want him to deal more damage. But better save it for a Dps signature, Boothil as far as I know pretty much requires his for now, as we don't have anything for his kit yet.
Your chat is a menace lol, the community reflects the streamer
13 from an auto is just stupid good.
Now that 's HUGE dmg from E6 aventurine, to be expected from e6 untis
Switch Tingyun for parkle and lmk how that goes
Erm… why does my E0S1 jy do the same damage as that one lmfao what artifacts does he have on 💀
because JY's eidolons mostly don't increase his direct damage. E1: increases blast multiplier, not base, E2: increases skill/basic/ult after LL goes (20%), E4: energy regen, E6: inflict vulnerable after first LL hit to enemy (stacks up to 3) so if an enemy gets hit once then never again, no change in damage.
So basically the only damage increases are e2 and e6 (also multiplier from e3/e5) isn't enough to change the relative damage. It's more of a JY diff than a relics diff I think
chat only looks at JY cause that's the community pokke created
GJ Pokke! you've bred the most toxic doomposters in the community! well done
@goofsphere1 Yeah, I guess only toxic community can count. Positive friendly community wouldn't mind that sustainer does the same damage as supposed "hyper carry" on the same level of investment ... :D. Where are these copium overdosed people coming from? :D
Early from the discord notif les go
Very relatable 😂
Bros going down the tectone cycle 😭
How is that JY hitting that low ? Mine at E1S0 hits harder than that lol
To be fair, Jing Yuan is one of the most team mate reliant character. Whether that is a good thing or not, idk
@@tejasgupte3116 tbf, his eidolons also kinda suck lol. Aside from e1 and e6, the others are kinda garbage.
Thanks to our favorite dinosaur
It's probably just the dino. that thing is nasty. We did see hunt multipliers kill it, tho that's their function.
@@deltaspecies1697 Even then, his e1 is mid and his e6 is disappointing. Prydwen calculated e6 JY doing 135% single target/150% 3 target damage compared to e0. Meanwhile, ratio e6 is 272% ST, acheron 233% ST/240% 3T, DHIL 218% ST/218% 3T, jingliu 204% ST/158% 3T
Your chat is obsessed with Jing yuan holy shit
Bro seeing him using Pela with Jing Yuan hurt my eyes, even Asta is much better than Pela in this comp
Because it's so absurd that an e6 JY is doing comparable damage to e0 acheron
Aventurine e1 is superior compared to Fu Xuan, it is seems like not to much, just 1 SP per ultimate, but in reality, when you need to use SP it is minus 2 SP from your team. Ofc it is depend on do you need this skill or not, but still, +2 SP per rotation is kinda insanely good with 20% teamwide CD on top.
Also debuff with each attack from e2 for Acheron... Yeah, im not even gonna comment and talk about it, lol.
They're basically the same except fu is providing max hp, crit rate and cdmg (e1 vs e1, fu xuan provides more cdmg, the more important effect is the shield on ult) while he is meant to keep the shield stacked and healthy. He'll be better for G&G but for general MoC, I'd say they're pretty much same tier as an e1 vs e1 comparison. He's more SP friendly tho, that's true.
@@ZeromusNightmare122 they are not the same. Fu Xuan advantage - 12% CR and one CC block per SP.
Aventurine = 3 times more SP generation per rotation, significant damage and perfect scale with shields and FuA mechanics.
Also Fu Xuan realy weak against dots and strong AoE in long combats, while Aventurine will never give a sh*t about these. He have no wekness at all, sometimes you might need to reroll combat to roll resist against most important debuffs, that's it.
HoYo keep showing us - old charasters are not mutch to new one. Powercreep is real and pretty big.
Lol chat is so braindead
interesting show case funny enough thou Pela in this team particular does nothing a Bronya or Sparkle with the Ting in hyper buffing the Jing Yuang with his att% slow boots having him alleys 10 stacks LL instead of 8 sometimes would would do a ton more dmg than with Pelas def downs that being said Aventurine for me seems the same amount of value as Gepard mainly for the shield with a lot easier use as its from the E not the ult. His follow ups do some dmg sure but not that much to actually matter to lower a whole cycle or more.
The damage might not, but the break does.
1$ to 8k$ comparison with that last one :D
Holy nuclear relatability
A 360k fua is CRAZY
"no damage whatsoever, gotta keep it relatable" does 20k on Aventurine ult, meanwhile mine barely cracks 10k, I cannot relate lmao
I think your build is just trash
no more twitch subs list at the end... om..
The first dps like Seele and Jing Yuan definitely have really shit eidolons unfortunately.
Wow the ER Rope was impressive, btw with CD chest I'm still reaching 4k def 4018 exact with Market LC and good def % S/S so it can be done, your relics are just bootycheeks my dude! Lol
Hmm 369k followup relatable
I miss when MrPokke accent was heavier
Isnt jing yuans eidolons buff his Aoe damage i mean he is not good but not terrible doing something he isnt meant for
YEAH I AM COPING LEAVE ME BE
JY e6 hitting low numbers is understandable thats just 1.0 eidolons being shit. but wtf was that topaz damage, aven hitting more than her aintnoway
my adventurine doesn’t do that
Now we need a whale(e6s5) team versus match comparing total damage output. Jingliu/ team, DHIL/team, Acheron/team, FUA/Team.
I needs rankings my guy. 😂
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I got e6 adventurine in $400 so 2000 is highballing 😂
would e0 gepard lightcone aven be a noticeable upgrade over e0s0 luocha? 🤔
E6 aventurine FUA doing as much as seele ult 😅
wtf chat leave our boi mid yuan alone
E6 jingyuan
VERY relatable
i e6s1aventurine becuz i love him so 😭😭 i might e6s1 ratio if he ever gets a rerun becuz i love playing him hes so fun and we got 1 for free
How does the Aventurine almost deal as much damage as my Acheron what😭
??? Something seriously wrong with your acheron man
@@shotgunammoi meant the part when he did 370k with follow up
@@DracoAtom he's e6s5. I'm sure e0s1 acheron can do that just fine. I think it's also possible for gnsw s5 to reach that.
@DracoAtom thats follow up tho, after having 10 stacks, thats like using acheron skill twice and one ult completely poops on it by more than double haha, my acheron even quadruples the LL without being limited to once per cycle
Bro has 3729 DEF, 40 crit rate, 187 crit dmg and calls that a very normal build 🤣
Bruh this is not true at all, if i can have e0 aventurine for 1$ ill take it, if u spend 1$ ( assuming you don't save any jades or tickets since it doesn't count to the 1$) and get aventurine you're lucky lol, i got gepard
WTF at the last one aven did nothing
why do people put aventurine on the third slot ? genuinely asking maybe I'm missing something
To battery the units on either side. It's not really as relevant with him since he has no increased aggro, but yeah
He has more aggro as preservation, gains one blind bet stack for each ally targeted and one extra for himself if hit. Positioned in the middle like that he gets hit by 3 out of the 4 blast attack targets, and if he's attacked directly he's gaining 2 stacks from each side, plus safely serving as battery.
Saying doing 200k extra damage as a sustain is 'irrelevant' is a bit cooked
29:16
Aventurine for $1 WHERE?
Whales are relatable, why do you think the game makes money?
aventurine literally be doing more dmg than jing yuan 💀💀💀
Maybe test Dr. Ratio and Topaz, no sustain. With Sparkle and Ruan Mei as supports, the damage should be astronomical compared to Aventurine.
Yes it is, but that’s team also gets fucked by the Dino
people hype for aventurine and I tried building 40pity and accidentally got him all I can say is fuxuan and huohuo is a lot better, the crit rate and attck boost energy is just much more better
@@marknavarro4592 what team are you running him on?
@@goldshot754ignore the team what the fck is his build?
I'm agree his damage still "small" But it's still a decent one(specially since you can do it frequently) and his sustain overally is on fuxuan level
His f2p dmg outside of the premium follow up team (Ruan+topaz+ratio) really is negligible. Even with signature, is still cannot make meaningful difference. As shown in this vid, it only starts shave off 1 cycle clear after E2 S1, granted it's not his premium team. His terrible base multiplier requires a heavy investment in both team mates and himself - including relics - to make a difference.
A team that doesn't have strong team buffer like Ruan or strong debuffer like Topaz, his dmg made no difference whatsoever in clear time. I've compared with gepard, and it clears the exact same time.
The point is, his sub dps gimmick is very niche. Outside of the premium follow up team, he's just a sustainer. Even in ratio hypercarry and topaz hypercarry (not both of them together), Huohuo is still provides the best support since ulting one turn sooner is significant compared to aventurine unbuffed dmg. And someone like Huohuo - Fu Xuan aswell - only needs trace investment to get their supportive prowess, they don't need specific team, and lightcone investment.
Pretty pathetic an e6s1 jing yuan does less damage than e0s0 or s1 acheron. Imagine spending 2k...
Pela is pretty meh for jingyuan so prob that's why
Mihoyo want all that cash from powercreep.
@@saddany3254 indeed, seele edilions and jingyuan edilions are dogshit. So bad that even e0 units are outshining them rn.
@@tayyabo exactly. Seele E1 +15% crit rate if the enemy is below 80% health - which is only useful against boss since Seele should one shot mobs. Meanwhile Acheron E1 is a straight 18% crit rate without condition at all. That is such a blatant eidolon powercreep.
@@saddany3254acheron’s crit rate is against debuffed enemies.
E6 mid yuan btw
Kinda annoying how everyone devolves into either glazing or shitting on Jing Yuan. It’s genshin level bickering. The focus of the run isn’t even the cycles it takes to clear, it’s more about the utility of Aventurine’s sustain.
Bro it's hilarious when an e6 dps does the same damage as an e0 dps + JY mains keep defending and causing drama lol
@@Arlecchino.111 Of course, he’s been massively power crept. It was funny when JY mains were coping, saying that Acheron was going to be worse, then being proven wrong. But at this point, people are just looking for any reason to trash talk him, even when other dps characters like Yanqing exist.
@gregstunts347 that's exactly what makes it hilarious
I think the problem is that JY mains are still coping and still do not accept the fact that Acheron is stronger than him. If you were to even mention Acheron in a comment in their subreddit, you'll be downvoted to oblivion unless you are shitting on her. If you don't believe me, go try it for yourself. Neither side will back down tbh. The more JY mains cope and push back, the more these toxic chatters will also push back. I have to admit tho, it's hilarious watching the 2 sides fight XD
@@Arlecchino.111 you're saying this as if it isn't just both sides causing drama... I've mained plenty of "weak" units in both Genshin and HSR and as much as people cope on those characters being good there's never drama unless "outsiders" start shitting on their characters.
Especially since, while Jingyuan is weaker than other top tier carries, his performance is actually pretty good, much better than what people trashing him believe (idk about whale level tho), it's just that a bounce type main source of damage + locked (low) spd on it is a really terrible gameplay experience
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Gosh jing sucks
e6 midyuan lmaooooo
its actually so funny seeing how shit jingyuan is 😂
Its crazy how Aventurine is still nearly loucha level sp positive even at e0s0
I wouldn't say as much, 'cause there's really no point in building Luocha with too much healing as overhealing does nothing, whereas Aventurine has a a bunch of stats he cares about, DEF and Crit DMG mainly.
But then again, you can choose to build full SPD Aventurine and he's also got a good base SPD, the issue is how well you can build him with high shield as well to make it SP positive, and if you'd have enough SPD to be as fast as a multiplication Luocha.
@@akirayuki6275loucha is still best in slot for a lot of teams.
@@orlandogastelum1539 Yeah, Aventurine can definitely be SP positive, but even with my 163 SPD Multiplication Luocha (no Wind set, no Vonwac, no 4pc SPD) there are some turns in which my DHIL cannot 3SP Basic with a SPD tuned Sparkle (on Bronya LC) so I can't imagine an E0 Aventurine being able to keep up. On a Hyper SPD Sparkle (slow DHIL) build it's almost too much SP though.
@@orlandogastelum1539 OK, I like Luocha as a character, but you want to claim he's actually good ... so. Name ONE team where Luocha is best in slot :D
Aventurine > Fuxuan