CT screening for homeless people | When common sense in medicine dies, bad research wins
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- čas přidán 29. 06. 2024
- Vinay Prasad, MD MPH; Physician & Professor
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You know why they did this, someone is making money! it is always money, follow the cashflow of the great material continuum.
Huge money in using useless diagnostics
Yeah, they are making the money we give them in good faith to work towards curing cancer
I don't donate to those large cancer cash cows either.
I recently donated to a small charity that actually seems to spend most of the money they get from us on helping families with transportation, food, and other useful stuff but the CEO takes a 160k salary. The seven or so docs on the board don't take a cent
Looks like they spend just about what they get every year on average
This seems like the kind of study you'd see in a satirical website.
What's next? Cholesterol management in death row in mates?
Excellent lol
That's probably on their list. Or sex change, heart & liver transplants, etc. Actually I think there was a guy on death row in WA State who did get expensive healthcare like that before his execution. smh.
😂
Experimenting on the homeless.
Bold move!
Sounds very hitleresque. Read the Nazi Doctors book.
Thank you for publicizing this. Complete insanity.
Where does a CT scan fall on Maslow’s Hierarchy? 😮😂
Clearly they’re looking for some experiments on their mRNA cancer vaccines
ct-scan is like 70 x-rays in one visit; very efficient way to radiate people.
There are enough resources to feed and shelter the world 🌎
And this is what gets funded..
Why would anyone want to feed and shelter those who contribute nothing? Or even worse, those who actively harm others? Feel free to help anyone you want, but don't expect others to make bad decisions along with you.
@@ohsweetmystery I don’t expect others to make bad decisions. Absolutely not.
Feeding the world with LOVE would be the first start ❤️ the rest will follow 🙏🏼
We have a rich history of experimenting on the mentally ill, down-and-out, and desperate people, and it’s often not beneficial to them. Looks like nothing has changed. As always, thanks Dr Prasad for your videos.
This seems like more of a grift, than an experiment.
My grandma, who was put on hospice for no reason other than malnutrition and not even offered a pillow for neck pain, was given a covid vaccine within just a few weeks of being on HOSPICE. What the heck. (This is after she had been very ill after the last round only a few months prior).
I work in Hospice. Generally, this would never be done...(I am not a vaccine supporter, in fact, I had an adverse reaction--) was she in a facility? They are famous for mass vaccination of residents despite hospice status. I know our hospice would never do this. To be honest, we have to pay for all of the medicines given and most are not covered if they are not comfort care only. The last thing I would like to add is that Hospice is very strict for admissions. The diagnosis has to be that she had 6 months or left to live and that patient/family/proxy do NOT want patient hospitalized or treated as this would extend suffering. That ALL BEING SAID, I am so sorry for your loss, and sorry that she was given that injection and that she did not have a pillow. So sorry for your loss. May she rest in peace.
@@kali542 sadly, only one family member wanted her in hospice, the one who had nearly starved her to death and everybody else tried to get her out of the facility but he would not allow it and she was drugged to death in the facility as soon as she had any kind of pain (in her hip). I'll be reporting it to the State medical board on Monday, because we know that it was basically murder.
@@kali542 Use of this (alleged) bioweapon was (is) always sinister, I believe, and in my opinion, it always has been, right from the start.
@@kali542 Just wanted to compliment you on your open, honest and very informative input on this matter for us readers. It helps us see how so many of our high standards of healthcare practices of previous innovators are sadly being dismantled by others. Usually other staff, supervisors or management who are unwilling to question imposed illogical changes.
@@kali542
They are poisoning my friend to force him ibto hospice.
Once again, you have hit the nail squarely on the head. The only people who benefit from studies like this are the ones who work for the ACS and the researchers they fund. They get a big, fat payday and the homeless are no better off. At best this is stupid, although I'm inclined to see it as calculating and practically criminal.
They gave em a pack of cigarettes for participating in the study
And ''Safe'' Heroin.
Please work in the next administration...make better policies
Thanks for the content, Dr. Prasad! 🔥
They're collecting big data for something else.
YES !!!
Tuberculosis rates?
Dr Prasad, I simply love the way you’re speaking out against the oh-so-corrupt medical establishment. The establishment just seems so good, these days, at wasting other people’s money.
If only that was the worst of it. 😢
Check out Dr Suneel Dhand…he’s been calling out the fraud since 2020.
really good video... on several points, a real doctor and researcher shines a light on useless researcher funded by a respected charity and performed by a respected institution, both of whom should know better. the medical community doesn't need any more exposure to their money grubbing scams!!!
Respected charity??! Respected institution?!! Neither have had my respect for MANY years!!
What charity is respected? What institution is respected? NONE of them as far as I can tell.
You are THE best… please keep your extra effort going with Substack, CZcams, etc. We look forward to the clarity you bring to every topic you touch. 🙏
Yes, totally insane. YOU are right about the garbage!! Don't blame you for being ticked off!
This is social research being done with money meant for science and medicine.
western medicine has been fraudulent for the last 50 years or so, since the takeover by the AMA (really 100 years, but there was some science done until the 60s)
Good point, and I do think you nailed it.
western medicine is about 90% fraud these days
Bump
The governments great interest is social engineering...
I highly doubt homeless people will be keeping up with any type of follow-up visits that would come from this. There are way more pressing issues (health and in general) that should be addressed first. Your assessment of this study is on point.
The goal is to have a chip for everyone's condition, right? No follow-up visit is needed when you live in a container or warehouse and will have no life except that of a subject.
If a cure is found, and all cancer is easily curable. What happens to these cancer societies? They are only doing what they need to do to keep the thing going.
How is cancer easily cured?
@@darcykamin1111 Read what I wrote again. Just speculating
@@darcykamin1111 High quality foods and water.
look at informed consent they used. If they mention any benefit homeless people could possible get then this is an ethics comittee issue.
But think of all the benefits of CT scanner sales to inner cities if they’d shown a benefit. Medical device makers need support too. /s
Ahhhh, some good 'ol common sense VINAY SPEAK .. love how you tell it like it is. Stay true to you
As the father of a child with autism, I feel the same about AutismSpeaks. It would be nice if they did things that helped, but instead, they mostly do useless research that has no real impact. IMHO
My Dr. Annoys the crap out of me EVERY TIME I go in there. Won't do it.
I love your take on this! You’re so right. What a farce science has become.
Vinay, from Switzerland, you have my total support and solidarity. You speak the truth and common sense. Not just that, you truly are concerned with ethics and protection of patients and individuals. Unfortunately in this case it is apparent that someone wants to make money out of the homeless… It’s heartbreaking. 💔 America has been irredeemably corrupted by special interests and i don’t see how the few honest citizens who survived are going to turn that around- i don’t think it’s possible.
They seem to be destroying the entire western world, especially the US.
So practical, Dr. Prasad. Sorry your voice is unheeded.
PRASAD for PRESIDENT....or at least surgeon general!! But alas, that makes to much sense!! Uggghhhhhh🤬 (and he's WAY to smart to except if they did offer it to him)
Keep up the good work, doc... in the sea of idocricy you must navigate!!!❤
NIH Director would be sufficient.
OMG, I love it ."Cancer Screening turns healthy people into patients" I could not agree more. How about giving these people a meal instead of a screening. Quality of life is as important as the Quantity of it.
Harvard is bottom on barrel now.
They’re looking for more customers, not helping people
I could use your help! I just received mixed vaxxed blood and almost immediately am starting with clouts. I had no choice.They don’t even separate or ask if they were vaxxed. Now it is attacking my brain base in my neck.
Every time I've donated blood since 2022 they have asked if I took a covid vax. But weirdly that is not on the questionnaire. The attendant asks that one desperately from the regular private computer questionnaire.
@@WeighedWilson They told me they take all the blood and mix it and I have no choice. But thanks for your response. If you are unvaccinated they can get more money I bet…maybe it was for that reason.
Thanks, Dr.
I agree with you 💯!!!
My father had a transplant. My mother had cancer so we always joked that they built the hospital because they had insurance and a lot of it was out of pocket. But when she was having back pain a short time after her cancer was apparently cured everyone kept thinking she was trying to get medicine. I was so frustrated because she had cough and cough and cough. So they had this thing where everybody could come in and get a CT my mom signed up. They told us she was dying all over her body.. She went from being upbeat and happy to believing she was dying and a short time later did. There must not be a lot of money in follow up care. When they told her she had bone cancer I wanted to go and talk to the guy who thought she was trying to get medication for pain which was shocking because she was in her 70s and I said what did you think was going to happen? Well then it was here. He’s a bunch of morphine go home and die. She would’ve lived a lot longer, and she had to struggle with all that pain and been ignored. We would have caught it… but they were doing phone appointments and screening her for “drugs”
Motive: Lots of medicaid & medicare funds into drs' and hospital ceos' pockets the more people they can find with health issues.
an overwhelming majority of modern medical practice is lost in all cause mortality...the more long-term or chronic the care, the worse. but what you didn't mention that's more relevant is the quality of remaining life, which in most cases is inversely correlated to modern medicine
you know what extends life and quality of life? moderation in: faith, fresh air, prayer/meditation, thermohydrotherapy, sunlight, interval exercise, rest, resistance work, sleep, social exercise, clean plant foods and water --> you know, the high tech stuff
Lets give them three types of glass pipes, smoking straws, tinfoil and brillo to smoke with and incentives like food and gift cards to get jab after jab (folks use different names each time to get that gift card).
At the TLC (supervised drug consumption site in SF) they wanted to teach the homeless how to garden. I said, they dont have any land, this is a slap in the face.
I worked there, very briefly. For Health Right 360 and they are liars
They lied to the community about illegal drug at the facility. As did Mayor Breed and the SFDPH
It’s SF. The corruption armpit.
I appreciate your videos as they are very useful. I have been T1D for 43 years and am 67 and manage my health very well with supplements and a CGM to the point that I only need 10u TDD to manage. I have known for decades that the drug industry has been controlling medicine to make more money for their shareholders and not really for the benefit of the health of people. I really appreciate the use of CZcams and resent the recent AI controls they put on it to protect the interests of the drug companies that was also to the detriment of humanity.
I can't remember the name of a high ranking leader if a journal who also said that research was done in a way to meet the ends of the researchers and was not honest. She could only say that as she was retired, but she had obviously seen it while fulfilling her role. So it seems the industry is led in a way that benefits the minority at the expense of the majority.
Thank You Dr!
love the email message!!
Common sense should be rephrased to rare sense in this day and age.
How do you heal the body and the mind?
God bless you for saying it. Trying to understand the anatomy of the failed scientific community… my gut says it has to do with “ladder climbers” overpowering scientifically talented individuals. The system is not optimized for the right thing.
They came up with this invitation after growing bored with playing two hours of I Spy With My Little Eye.
Follow the money. Also looking back at the medical care and medicine 40 years ago, the medical field should be so much further advanced than it is today. Back then it should have been unimageable the strides we should have reached by now, but sadly we have not.
Say the truth, Doc! Tell it like it is!
Mind blowing
Wanna bet you will find a link between either the researchers or the managers of the ACS, and the companies providing the CT service?
How about psychiatric and drug addiction screening, that could help more.
VP you’re hitting over the target …big brother is watching
Link to paper please
could this be partially for generating data for machine learning models?
Yeah that's what I thought. The data is supposed to be yours though, you can even take it home on a disk if you want and look at your brain pictures and try and make a 3D print of it (I tried the printer failed)
Greed. If there's one thing that the pandemic taught me, it's that someone somewhere is profiting.
How many weeks/months of housing could we obtain versus the screening costs? Hmmm.... Someone has a research program, let's metastasize it to a population that really needs something more meaningful (housing!!!). Another example of overuse of medical technology.
Do they pay these homeless people?
A new varient called the CT Corona-24
The waste and stupidity is endless.
Great video! Love your content, but damn get a pop filter lol😂😂
Don't worry Doc, they are just drumming up business and the people will fall for it.
More people get a scan when prompted than when not. Well, they got us on that one, didn't they?
Wait, sorry for being out of subject. Did you buy a U87 AI to do podcasts?
Please don't get me wrong, your videos sound good on my phone and cheap PC speakers.
But it seems like a big waste of money because an SM7b, RE20 or any dynamic microphone like the Se dynacaster would have don't the same job in an untreated room.
The Ivory Tower lives!
It's not intuitive to most people, hiw early detection can cause more harm for what was a benign growth.
However, i can't help but wonder what's up if it was a fruitful early detection that saves or extend your life?
I think I'd take a scan if I could, then I'd get a second opinion and find a nice place to get the biopsy done.
I know they say they have gotten very good success rates with some types but they also said the Civic vaccine was safe and effective.
CT scans might even be healthful because of radiation hormesis if you don't get too many. Radiation hormesis isn't studied well but seeing how healthy Danny Elfman is at his age despite being addicted to X rays and having hobbies such as doing radiation experiments when he was a kid, I might be a believer now.
Are sure they want to do it for lung cancer? Sounds a bit like tuberculosis screening.
TB can be diagnosed through a simple blood titer test and is hundreds of dollars cheaper than a CT scan, and depending on where a person lives, it could even be thousands of dollars cheaper.
Aha..you may be onto something.
I think labwork and a chest xray are standard for TB screening. A CT scan to rule out TB seems like overkill
@@trina7274 true, but the blood titer test requires a poke fallowed by another poke after 72 hours. Try getting a homeless person to show up for an appointment once, let alone twice.
@@eddiebastidas2702 That's true, but it will also show up on a ct scan AND they can kill two birds with one stone...they don't care about saving money...they must spend it b/c it's earmarked, and they must justify that for which it is spent.. this allows them to spend a LOT of money for what seems on the surface to be a humanitarian endeavor and they get credit. It's all about politics and virtue signaling.
Another reason why Harvard is looking for a donation i won't
Yes, careers are made from useless degrees and absolutely useless research
I've lost my faith in most scientific studies. Many make no sense, like the one Dr. Prasad describes. Money, time, and effort, wasted.
Crazy and Sad.
Wow
Is there a sort of gofundme for research, where researchers can post their research proposals and then just anyone can choose to donate? Sometimes it seems like that might be a more effective way of funding research compared to where our research money goes these days.
Lipid management?
And what happens when lung cancer is detected in the homeless? Do they automatically get a house to live in? Or tons of money for treatment? Nah, none of that.
I've bought food and coffee for some homeless people I've encountered in my area. In the few minutes I've been in their presence, the smell is so bad I had to flee for my life.
Preventing homelessness in the first place is where it's at.
Figure out how to do that, and you will literally save their life, smoking or not.
People who received BCG in infancy have lower rates of lung cancer, not to mention autoimmune disease and RSV. Just giving everyone with a normal immune system BCG throughout life would be a low cost way to decrease morbidity and mortality at all ages from multiple disorders because it remodels the immune system. But homeless people need rehab with medical and mental health programs. They need a choice of programs at various locations, but if they aren't required to stay a year or go to jail, few will go.
BCG?
Goal...spend as much of your dollars as possible. Garbage and public health says NOTHING
I think it’s safe to say that “public health” actually means…something else. 😢
Dear Lord! Job training! Drug addiction treatment! Housing! We've lost our minds!
Pop filter please?
Did they try offering a free meal with the scan?
You can keep the disk with the data on it afterwards but they probably don't have a computer or a safe place to put it.
$cience.
Only people who love their lives and can afford it care about medical treatment.
Just saying
I have full insurance and couldnt even get a ct for my broken knee....
I hurt my head and got a CT scan to make sure I didn't have a brain bleed. I'm disabled though
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥
Sorry if I was homeless the last thing I want to think about is "great now I got cancer" or even better "Yippie I am cancer free" oh wait I am still homeless. Its a LOSE/LOSE for any homeless person
I know what I do before I pay my bills: get a ct screening for lung cancer.
Top priority: Require liability on big pharma!!!!
You speak as if the health care system is there to make us better...
Easy money. Lots of it.
Federal govt and agencies funding nonsense.
Maybe they're doing it just to collect and hoard CT scan data? I got a CT scan last year and I insisted on taking the data home on a disk and I tried to 3D print my brain and skull but my school's 3D printers are shitty
The QAnon MD Shaman strikes again.
I will celebrate the day when Vinay Prasad comes all the way over to the side that says the whole jab program was a planned and vicious operation.
Nah, it's just spontaneous opportunistic criminality and stupidity, not an organized conspiracy.
And they are about to come back with more of same. Much more.😢
I agree that the funding could've probably been better allocated to something more pressing, but I disagree that such research is absolutely useless. Any piece of knowledge is useful, to an extent.
How many billions have they burned through in all these years?
Now this is what you call global warming
Isn't this population considered a vulnerable population?
When you're a hammer everything is a nail.
Off topic. Get a pop filter for your mic, please.
At least it wasn't funded by taxpayer dollars!
They just have money to waste.
Its infuriating. Can we please care about people more???