How To Build A Shed - Part 4 - Building Roof Rafters
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- Chris from www.icreatables.com/sheds/shed... teaches you how to build roof rafters for your shed or outbuilding.
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This video walks you through all the steps of building roof rafters including:
Cutting the rafter boards to length.
Cutting the birdsmouth.
Building a jig on the shed floor to make sure all the rafters are exactly the same.
Nailing on the gussets.
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I thank you for showing us beginners how to build the rafters. I like the way you do each piece at a time and then using that piece to make the remaining pieces.
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Very good idea to check the rafter fit on the floor before the walls were built!!
This is by far the set of videos I’ve seen. Can’t wait to start my build.
My 17 yr old has been taking a high school home maintenance class for 1.5 years. We have a steel frame shed with no floor and we will be tackling this soon since schools are closed in Ohio for 3 weeks. Perfect time for putting skills to the test.
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I am not roofing specialist i never knew how roofed building in USA, i have seen many tutorials before of this particular sector of carpentry i can say now i can cut a rafter with the best precize ever. Thanks for thiw tutorial, i like it.
+telosfd Thanks for watching!
Someones got skills. Nice work and good to see people still take some pride in what they do.
Thanks for posting. This series helped me build my shed!
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Thank you for sharing that knowledge and taking the time to video it to help others. Well useful.
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Excellent video and clearly explained on how to make the seat and birds mouth. thank you and keep up the good work
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Muy buen video ya que me estoy construyendo una cabaña tu aportes son muy buenos gracias.
Thank you for sharing this!
This is a really informative video. Thanks so much.
Thank you. Great videos!
thank you for showing how easy it is. This will save lots of money not having to buy prepared pieces or hiring people now I can do it for myself!! thank you !!!
Sophie Nelson Thanks for watching!
Nice vid, what size 2x's were those? 4 or 6.
I'm building a free standing roof over my shed which are 2 8x20 trailers. I want to pour footings then use 2x4 posts, string them together then use a roof design like this. That way when the trailers finally rot out I can tear them out from within and construct the rest of the wood shed underneath. Would a design like this work in an area that gets winter snow? Thinking of weight. Are there designs anywhere on how to figure out the pitch and where to cut those notches? Thanks
superb instructional video, will save me loads of time :)
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Thanks for watching and commenting! Glad they helped.
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Horizontal cut is called the seat cut, vertical cut is called the plumb cut. The two cuts together form a cutout called a bird's mouth.
That makes a lot more sense. Thanks for posting this.
Superb instructional video!
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excellent video - just what i needed. My shed walls are 16" on center. Do I space the rafters 16" on center also, or 24" on center is fine??
I purchased your plans for the 8x12 shed and I'm building the shed on the a concrete slab. What do I use as a jig for building the rafters, here you used the shed floor.
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I was planning to build a shed on a concrete pad in a few weeks, glad I saw these first. Great video, thanks.
DJ Lawrence Have fun with your project! Thanks for watching.
Very goo video. Do you think this kind of rafters would be fine for a 12x12 shed?
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great video. did you use glue for the gussets?
Thanks for these videos, I never knew the first thing about building a structure but this series is teaching me a lot!
Going to make a smaller version. Just wish I could pay wood prices from 6 years ago.
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Thank you.
Do you have to have a birdsmouth? Can you have a straight 2" x 4" running across and beyond the span of the shed width?
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Ug, wish I didn't put 3 Walls up before I got to the rafters now...
thanks for posting. :)
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shouldn't a cut be made on the overhang part of the rafter?shouldn't the overhang end of the rafter be parallel to the ridge end?
Currently building this shed with the plans. Was having problems getting subsequent rafters to fit in the jig after making the first set. Come to find out, instead of the 2x4 being the expected 1-1/2”x3-1/2” I have some boards that are 3-1/2 and two eights wide. So the width being off is screwing up the location of the bird mouth cut. Any suggestions on how to adjust for this? Should I just keep the bird mouth cut flush with the floor edge and just trim off the very top of the rafter that is a little taller? Or should I make sure the top is aligned with the others and shave off 2/8th of an inch more of the birds mouth? OR...take this crappy lumber back to Lowe’s and inspect every single board for perfect measurements in addition to being straight? 🙄
Take the crappy lumber back
2 questions
1. How to you determine the seat length ( and depth of birds' mouth) if you're not working off plans. (or better just need to understand how to determine the seat length/ BM depth?
2. why are the eave ends uncut and not angled to come out vertical on final installation ?
Thanks for the instruction on the speed square.
+Kevin Ashby The seat length we used is the dimension of the top plate plus a half inch for the siding. The birdsmouth is whatever it takes to get to the seat cut. It must be the camera angle, the eve ends are square with the rafters, they are not vertical. Thanks for watching.
Building a 16x 28. Will this work for something as wide as 16’?
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Hey, I'm going to build a 10 x 12 shed soon. I have a question, can I use this same rafter method for a 10 x 12 shed? I would also have a longer over hang because I like it better. The over hang in this video is way to short for me. So, can I use the 4/12 pitch for my shed? Also, I might go with this wood floor also, can you paint this type of wood floor?
Did you end up using this method? I am starting a 12x10 shed and want to use this for my roof rafters.
Issue common people are asking example,
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Is there a program that can tell you yet? Or is it always buy this and by that then I might tell you?
I would love to finish your series! Just wanted you to know what most ask about. Not meant to insult.
Good video. Should have gotten close ups of the speed square and the markings mentioned. That's the biggest part is working that square properly. Do it wrong and the whole project gets messed up.
lol, “use the shed plans to find out the length”, lol, I don’t have any shed plans my guy! It’s all make it as I go!
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Can you notch out the gussets if you want a flush, pointed ceiling?
I think that plywood would have made stronger gussets and could also have been glued then screwed.
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I agree on the ply, although I think OSB is strong enough for a small shed roof, especially if you have little to no slow-load. Nails are better than screws though--screws are usually more brittle and break, leading to more failures than nails, which have some natural "give" to them.
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hi i want to add a lean too on my dads existing shed and have watched your video for cutting the seat and mouth. what is the 4/12 pitch and does the angle you cut at the top dictate the angle for the mouth. for instance if you cut an 18 deg top will the mouth angle be 18 deg too. also from the mouth to the seat is that the thichkness of the wall cross member. hope you can help and great videos
Hi,
The pitch is defined by how many inches the roof slope rises up for every 12 inches measured horizontally. a 4 in 12 pitch is 18.5 degrees. Yes both rafter seats and birds mouths will have the same angle.
What was the last dimension. I know it’s 2x4 but how long are they
So the facia is going to be angled and not perpendicular?
would it not make more sense to cut the angles out the opposite way? so it will be pushing against the wall and no risk of slipping off? although that may cause the rafters to push out the walls of the shed
The rafter seat cuts should push down on the top of the shed wall. Like most other things on the shed if it is nailed properly it will not be able to move. Thanks for watching!
Hi,
Can this process be used with a 4"×4" built framing posts
Why not?
Would these work for your 12x10 shed plan as well?
Our fourth video in the How To Build A Shed Series shows you how to build rafters for your storage shed roof. In it we teach you how to measure, mark and cut the rafter birds mouth, seat and ridge cuts. You will also learn how to construct a jig on the shed floor so that every rafter you build is the same size as the others. Building a shed roof is easy if you follow the right steps. Check out this video, and the others in the how to build a shed series, to learn how to build a shed roof and all the other parts of your backyard shed!
+iCreatables So the gable ends just have on gusset on the inside?
+William Disterdick Yes that is correct. The ends have gussets on the inside so that the siding will not hit it. The siding acts as the gusset for the two gable rafters.
Not questioning what you have but I would have used 2x6 for roof rafters or at a minimum installed a collar tie to these. Takes a bit more time and costs a bit more but after spending all that time building your shed why risk roof sag. Still great video
Michael Skehan Good point. These roofs are rated for 40lbs. If you have a higher snow load it is a good idea to use 2x6 boards and 5/8" roof sheeting. All of our sheds that are 10' and wider have king posts in the center. Thanks.
Why not to make a straight roof sloping to one side? More space and easier?
Great video, but my walls are already up. Can't really lay out the rafters this way.
You can lay sheets of osb on a flat surface and screw into it.
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Could you tell me how much this differs from a real estension other than putting in a proper foundation ? Seems very nice to me.
+Adam Turnbull A framed floor for this size shed costs about $100.00 less than pouring a concrete foundation. I just depends on your needs.
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Great video, what would be the best angle for a high snow load area,
Steeper helps to shed snow, especially when metal roofing is installed. But you can beef up the rafter sizes and sheeting thickness to hold heavier show loads on the shed roof as well.
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im going to build a 10x10 shed how can i get the rise and run of my slope on a 6/12 thanks
+lorenzo santillan The roof pitch for 6 in 12 is 26.57 degrees. If you order our plans we will send you the roof rafter drawings for any of the major roof pitches 2:12, 4:12, 5:12, 6:12, 8:12
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Is the wood you're using for the rafters treated ?
Thank you for sharing,
I have two questions please.
Why are the trusses 24" on centre?
And why is there no horizontal 2x4 stretching from one side to the other along the bottom for strength?
My shed will be 9' wide. I'd like to build the truss the same as you did
Thanks
Darrell
Using 2x4's and 7/16" O.S.B. gives the roof a certain strength rating. Moving them closer together increases the strength rating. Also, using a thicker O.S.B. will further increase the rating.
The horizontal board is called a bottom chord. It is used on our 10' and wider sheds. The bottom chord keeps the walls from being pushed out. Smaller shed roofs have less of an area so the total weights are less and therefore they are less likely to have the walls move. If you are building in a an area with heavier live loads, like snow, which take the p.s.f. loading over 40lbs. psf. you should use a bottom chord and or larger rafter sizes.
My shed is 10', i will definitely use a bottom cord for the rafter.
Thanks for your time.
Is bottom cord the same as ridge
Top
Rafters in the sheds you buy from home Depot don't have bird mouths, they are just toe nailed into the header board
Is the birds mouth just to get the rafter flush with the wall to nail it?
David Pierson The birds mouth allows the rafter tail to keep its full dimension, ie 3 1/2" thickness. The rafter seat distributes the weight of the rafter on the top of the wall.
Whats a RUFF?
You can not twist the farm for OSB
I am building small cabin on a trailer frame. the dimensions are 57" wide and 10' long. I have the studs the standard 16" apart with the ends doubled, so 11 studs on either side.My question is, is it required to have a rafter for each stud? Or could I get away with doing something like every other one or something like that?
JarJarJarvis No need for a rafter every stud as long as you have a double top plate on top of the wall. Rafters are typically spaced 24 inches o.c. If you space the wall studs at 24" o.c. or use a single top plate then you should put the rafters over the studs.
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Is the away I could get a paper template
Wouldn't it have been easier to use a jig saw to cut the birds mouth? No flipping the board over and doing the other side and no wood chisel.
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Jigsaw won't give you nearly a clean enough cut. That's really thick stock for a jigsaw to begin with, but it's imperative that your seat cut be square to the stock so that it sits on the top plate without limiting bearing surface in the bird's mouth.
I am building a similar shed, what plans did you use? Or how do I determine the gusset dimensions?
Are these strong enough to walk on?
Yes, they will hold at least 40 lbs per sf. after you get the sheeting on.
Is that a lefty circular saw?
I don't understand the part where it says measure the eve end of the rafter board to the long point? Sorry I am new to this, but I have gain a lot from your videos.
Thanh Ha The eve end of the rafter is the lower end. It means to measure along the top edge of the rafter from the upper corner of the lower end cut off to the long point on the ridge cut. When you cut a 2x4 or 2x6 board at an angle you will have a long point and a short point on the end of the board. The point can also be called a corner.
Whatbis the size dimension of the wood rafter?
I would not use OSB, but plywood. It is not a significant amount of wood, and plywood is more trustworthy under tension, since the wood layers in plywood that would be horizontal are continuous wood layers, not relying on the tensile strength of the glue in OSB. Just my opinion. Never liked OSB except as a cheap-out.
I wish I could nail roof rafter gussets that fast!
Great video, I learned a lot!
Thanks for watching!
how to measure the structure to know what size will be the rafter
+Serena Munoz The easiest way to do it is to draw the tops of the two walls on the floor, the same distance from each other and showing the height difference. Then use a straight board and draw the rafter. Take the measurements from the drawing and transfer it to a board and cut out your rafter. Our plans show full sized templates for the rafters in our plans. You can view plans for this and other sheds at iCreatables.com www.icreatables.com/sheds/shed-plans.html
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Sorry if I'm missing this somewhere, but you jump over the way to determine the overall length of the rafter. You show measuring it, but don't say how to get that measurement. Thanks!
Gary Camp The length of the rafters is from the plans. It is different depending on the shed size and roof pitch. Thanks for watching!
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What you really mean is you won't say because you want him to purchase your plans. You already mentioned what your pitch was in the video. I would assume he is using the same pitch. Why not just give the guy the measurements.
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Jig saw, circular saw is a waste to do the seat and birds mouth
Good call.
A ridge would make that much stronger
Valley rafters
Lol, I also flip-flop my square 3 or 4 times before I put it back the way it was, then mark my line
Technically, These are trusses!! There is no Ridge pole to which these "rafters" can be attached. !! D Johnson
So the birds mouth fits any roof degrees ?
+Jason Gibbons The birds mouth and seat cuts are angled to the degree of the roof slope.
+iCreatables yes ! at the time of watching this video I did not know this , " lol" and maybe that's the reason for my sarcasm , sorry ! but because of this video I came to the conclusion the birds mouth is cut as same as the roof , thanks and sorry for the sarcasm " to days trying to get the cuts right , guess I was just about to give up :) thanks again .
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The Seat Cut and Birdsmouth will be cut to the angle you want the roof to be. It changes with the roof angle. You can do an internet search for "Roof Pitch Angles" to see a diagram of the different pitches. You will just use the angle/pitch mark on the speed square to cut a different angle.
iCreatables I used to know this but it's been so long since I'v did a roof , kind of just want out of my head , hay I'ed love to show you what I made ! its on my channel , one is a small shed i made into a jym the other was a new home for my sister in laws son , he turned 18 and I guess he wanted his own place , so out his backyard he moved , 'lol' my first time building something like that ya have time go see :)
You said that the "birds mouth" should hang over 1/2 inch but didn't say why?
It is to allow for adjustment to line them up with the other rafters.
@@icreatablestv Thanks I thought it was to allow the siding to slide up into the birds nest. My siding is 3/8" so hoping it will work that way for me and still give me an 1/8" of play. I'm building my shed as we speak the rafters and gussets have been built as per your instructions, thanks again for your video.
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Great series. I have watched a bunch of others and yours are, by far, the best. I am building a 9' wide shed with a 5/12 pitch. No snow concern. I plan on using your gusset design. On the interior, on each end of the shed, I plan on running a couple horizontal 2 by 6's across the ≈ 9 foot width attaching them just below the top wall plates. I will add some OSB and make these an above storage area. These will be about 3 to 4 feet deep.
These are not true chords. Do you think these will work to keep the walls from spreading or make it worse? Would you suggest adding some chords in the middle? I may also add some collar ties, but not sure that is needed or not. I am also debating use of 2x4's or 2x6's. With the limited space, I would opt for the 2x4 but think the 2x6's provides some extra stabilty. Thanks!!
Yes, any board you put between the two roof bearing walls will help keep the walls from spreading apart.
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