How to cut IKEA VOXTORP kitchen gloss end panels without chipping or delamination
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- čas přidán 16. 12. 2019
- This is our experience when trying to cut the IKEA VOXTORP kitchen gloss end panels without them chipping or delamination the nice white gloss finish. We tried to use power tools to save time, unfortunately, it doesn't quite work as expected e.g. small visible chips and/or delaminated the gloss coating so hopefully, this video will help you out and avoid making the same mistake but fortunately, the cut panel could be used so no big deal lesson learned. Even with tape or leaving the protective blue film on it still has chips etc when using a circular saw, we tried all sorts. If you have any advice feel free to comment.
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I use a battery powered rotary saw with a 165mm 60 tooth blade. Mark the board on the opposite side (be sure you remember it’s reversed when you measure) There is no need to remove the protective plastic or use any tape. Make a fence from timber or whatever you have to ensure your cut is straight. Set your saw at half the depth of cut and run it through. Set the saw for the full depth and do the cut again. Make sure the saw is running BEFORE you start each cut and hold the off cut to ensure the panel does not break out. Take your time a measure precisely. You will get a precision cut every time with no breakouts on either side of the panel..
Thanks for the advice. Just bought myself a circular saw to do the job. Did a test cut a noticed the chipping. I promptly found your video. Thanks again.
Thanks so much for taking the time to film this and provide all the little detail.
You've saved me a lot of heartache with a 2.4m panel for an island kitchen.
You're very welcome!
Thank you it helped! You can clearly see your frustration. I am at that same boiling point. Love how IKEA doesn't explain to you the most complex parts of the assembling process!
SAME!
I'M SO MAD AT HOW DIFFICULT THESE HAVE BEEN TO CUT
Awesome tips and tricks Daniel, brilliant
An excellent solution we needed this to cut down two laminate doors thank you for this!
I have helped other joiners cut laminate worktops. They used their track/plunge/rail saw to cut it in one go from the back... beautiful!
I have seen cheaper versions of his Festool saw at Lidl or Aldi.
Amazing! Thank you for the detailed instructions.
I couldn't believe it while doing a back to back island I found the 60cm deep units have 80cm height cover panels, while 37cm deep units have 86cm height. Off to Screwfix tomorrow to pick up those tools you recommended.
Glad it helped!
I was really worried about using a circular saw or anything automatic after seeing your video and others of 'delamination'.
I did two tests.
One I used a hand saw like you did, and there was mild chipping. For the other piece I used a jigsaw with a new blade, and it created a perfect edge that you wouldn't even know it wasn't cut from factory.
I think the hoo hah about massive chipping, delamination etc is just from people either using old blades or not following basic processes.
Craftmanship like this you don't see so often!
I bet!
Thanks, this is exactly what I was looking for.
Thanks guys I have to cut a door down and I’m glad I saw your video, very helpful many thanks
Glad it helped
It worked, beautifully! Many Thanks.
Glad it helped
Like the down to earth style of presenting. All other videos expect you to have expensive equipment that most DIY ers wont have.
Thanks, we are just doing a house up and DIYers
I cut these reasonably often with a festool tracksaw, I should imagine any tracksaw will do.
I came here because for the first time ever I cannot get a door the correct size I need to trim one, never crossed my mind it was likely same as an end panel ha!
Trouble with circular is you can be the best carpenter in the world, you will never be able to hold them perfectly still and the blade pressure will constantly change.
Fwiw try a circular with saw sharp fine tooth blade, use a track and make a first shallow pass and cut just through the melamine layer to prevent chipping, then a second pass to cut through the whole board. Cut shy of the line then sand to scribe mark with electric sander or by hand.
thanks for the tips
You can cut these panels with a circular saw. I do it all the time, but you have to cut from the back of the panel so it only chips the side that isn’t seen. Use a straight edge guide. Use a sharp new fine tooth blade and use a steady feed so the blade doesn’t get hot.
Great advice, thanks.
Which front is more durable....ringhult high gloss or voxtorp high gloss?
This is good advice. Always cut from the back of the panel, with a decent blade it rarely if ever chips the laminate. Just remember to keep the circular saw moving, a decent circular saw should glide through a kitchen panel effortlessly anyway.
use a fine finish blade with a skilsaw, make a plywood edge guide where the saw rides on a plywood base up against a second base, cut good side down and tape the edge, and it will come out perfect.
Great video. Thanks for sharing. Saved me making a ton of waste!!! 🤙
No problem 👍
Really useful video. Thanks 👍
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for helping me avoid trouble. I would have blasted through an $80 panel with a circular saw and felt immense, expensive regret.
Glad I could help
I have a need to make a custom size door for a built in dishwasher that needs a front that is 60cm wide and 45-ish high, and I am dreading the cut exactly because of the fear that the hard glossy finish will chip.
My cut will be at the bottom of the panel, and I can get away with a less than perfect cut, but what about the heat, water and steam that eventually makes its way into the cut?
How do I protect the cut surface, and is there an option for a glossy glue on strip to resurface the cut side?
I have some spare panels which I'd like to use to box the pipes under my boiler and on top of the worktop. Do you have any suggestions? I guess this would be a matter of screwing some corner plates to join them, or maybe glue would be enough?
Do you know which front is more durable....ringhult high gloss or voxtorp high gloss?
Thank you very much really helped me
Glad it helped
Great video we have same problem so I can show my other half so he can see he can do it. They are sold 32cm wide and we need them to be 30
thanks mate, I'm about to do with some custom size high gloss doors I accidentally ordered in the wrong size. Expensive mistake narrowly averted!
No problem 👍
Big thank you!
Glad it helped!
thanx for your tip
No worries!
just the answers I was seeking , thanks ,very useful advice.
Glad it was helpful!
I did I it this way it takes the drama out probably quicker ways if your confident but some of these items have a long lead time to replace
Upside down cut with a 60 tooth circular saw blade does the trick
Thanks for sharing. We have a high gloss bath panel, and I was worried about how to cut it without chipping the facia.
Feel more confident using the method you suggest.
For that you want a straight edge and score it with a blade then cut, should be fine then thanks.
Daniel thank you. I bought the saw today, this is going to be a tricky job, as there’s two pipes to take into consideration also. 😬😊
Huge thanks for sharing your pain !! I only need to cut out a gap in a kickboard so I can house a free-standing washing machine. I don't have a panel saw, but I do have a 14 t.p.i dovetail saw. Could I use this instead ?
Any fine tooth saw should work well.
I used a Ringhult drawer front to fill a 10cm gap in a row of high wall cupboards. 40 x 20cm only cost me $25. No cutting required.
Nice work!
Thank you for this video. Can you please tell me, are you able to put RINGHULT fronts on non-ikea cabinets?
I have no idea, if the dimensions fit and the hinge locations then possibly.
Hi Guys, I can't help with the cutting as you've nailed it! Just a query regarding the need to cut it in the first instance - are they not longer than the cupboards to allow you to fit the cornice/pelmet? Most people fit the pelmet's to conceal the under cupboard lighting.
Yep, this is exactly the reason, the shallow wall cover panels are exactly right heights (except for smaller heights mind you) to match the deco strips. The tall panels either come in the right size (for 220 or 240) to fit to plinth height, or they are taller to cut to the floor. You can be strategic in your plan to avoid cutting, your planner would help with this! The don't come in every size you might need because it would be so many separate articles, so come in most common/useful sizes. But you'll most likely need to do some cuts for fillers etc. regardless. The experienced fitters mainly cut the panels with hand saws, saws a bit longer than the one here by the look, so you get longer strokes and through the panel quicker
What do you reckon to using a router to just take off the gloss finish with the first pass, then finishing the cut with a second?
Not sure what you're trying to achieve?
Thanks very much for the video. I’m going to be fitting a white gloss voxtorp kitchen soon and need to cut vertically some 2m side panels. How did you cut yours? With the Bahco and a long straight edge?
Yes that's exactly how we did it, not saying that's the only way but the fine tooth saw doesn't chip it and you get a nice finish, thanks.
Daniel that’s great - many thanks. Perhaps a dumb question but did you install any new flooring before installing cabinets and the cover panels?
@@piersbrooks5178 Floor was laid first and cabinets on top.
Daniel - thanks. I’m laying Karndean and so wasn’t sure whether I could install after cabinets / before kickboard is fitted. Many thanks
Great video. What can you use or do to cover the cut end? Thanks
If you have a good circular (plunge saw ideally), get a fine cut blade and you can use it, just cut some yesterday, score it first or shadow cutting, for the ends edged banding with same colour and , trimmed after and that’s it.Also is very important that the piece you’re cutting is properly secured as well as the part that will be removed.Obviously safety first , PPE is a must.
Thank you I’ve got the same kitchen and got loads of ends to cut! I was thinking jigsaw and from the back what do you think?
you may have trouble keeping it straight, circular saw is better with a straight edge clamp.
@@DanielJohnHowTo I’d use a straight edge as well but the cut will covered with mastic anyway cheers Dan
What's the TPI of that saw please? I need to do this for my kitchen and want to follow this procedure.
it's a very fine tooth, so a lot.
Hi, do you cut from the back of the board to the front? Or from front to back?
front but with tape, and a fine tooth blade to prevent chipping
Wat about full length 90cm panel cuts?
same method, just larger?
Would you say Voxtorp are reliable? The lamination won't come off? Thanks for your video.
We haven't had any issues as of yet, it wasn't exactly cheap so wouldn't be happy if it happened.
@@DanielJohnHowTo Thank you for replying so quickly. My main area of concern are the sides of the units next to the cooker, in case they peel off.
Could you not flip over and then cut it so the blade is cutting on the upward cut then to fit it on the other flip side if I’m making any sense 😂
sure, give it a try let us know the results.
Yes the panels will chip with circular saw but must be a really crap kitchen if it is delaminating like that.
even worktop will chip if not cut properly.
@@DanielJohnHowTo yes chip but not delaminate like that, it looks faulty to me.