Joseph Campbell - The Story of Indra from the Brahmavar Upanishad - The Power of Myth
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- From part of 2 of the excellent Bill Moyers special, Joseph Campbell and the Power of Myth, courtesy of PBS. Please consider supporting your local PBS station.
The 'Vishwakarma' is not just a carpenter, he is the supreme god of craftmanship. He is considered as the divine engineer or architect of the universe. Whose ultimate creative power hold together the universe. The five prime craftmen communities(who are considered as the direct descendants of Vishwakarma's 5 sons) worship him viz. the carpentors, the blacksmiths, the goldsmiths, the metal casters and the stonemasons.
My family are the descandents of the blacksmiths.
My family is the descendants of carpenter
but do you understand the power of myth or are you consumed by it ...
there is a reason the following are ALL mentioned i.e.
carpentors, the blacksmiths, the goldsmiths, the metal casters and the stonemasons
HOWEVER it is easy to illustrate they ALL descended from the weavers and potters ...
at37.wordpress.com/2018/09/26/the-chiral-and-achiral-rosetta-stone-fractal-mandala/
very very easy to see ... IF ... your mind and heart is open
@@islandbuoy4 unless you believe it , your intellect will not grasp it and certainly you cannot live the teaching
Yes brother, he (Vishwakarma) is the supreme architect of the gods just as for demons maya is the architect (not be confused with maya of the Lord , i.e. the illusionary energy of the Lord that bewilders everyone From Lord Brahma to Ants)
@@islandbuoy4 Dude, these are beliefs or mythological concepts. Nobody is being dead serious about these to be the actual history.
These beliefs just indicate the vibrancy and literary depth of the culture you belong to. And, its gives some sense of inner strength when you believe that your family line have a historical legacy.
Plus its way better to pay attention to eastern spirituality or religious concepts rather than being devoted to some middle eastern dudes who are thought to be "messengers" of God.
"In heaven you'll be having such a marvellous time looking at God that you won't get your own experience at all" - amazing
ZilchNilton that line got me too
Heaven is also a binding realm, when the good deeds runs out , we again are sent to earth. Aim moksha
So you're pursuing mind-destroying, infinitely intense pleasure? What about heroin?
-- I went to Catholic grade school. When I was in second or third grade I looked up into the clouds and thought about what the nuns told me: If was good, I'd go to heaven where I'd be happy forever. My next thought was: But then I'd be bored.
I was on the correct path but didn't know it at the time.
I’m glad you did highlight this part and not the following one (here is the place to have that experience). If that was the highlight it could be read as another one of those "it’s all here and now, get your cup full” statements where practical atheism is masked as spirituality. But this is… well, something else! It got me instantly. Such a beautiful way to put it. It’s only beautiful if it’s true, though. Like the other fella said “let’s see what happens”. Cheers
Lovely Story. In all my years, I have never experienced anything as moving or relevant on TV than Bill Moyers' interviewing Joseph Campbell.
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Find Campbell’s book, audio or video lectures titled “Transformations of Myth Through Time”.
Much more expansive than Power of Myth.
agreed *JC helped merge religion and science using myth* ... but the ignorant do not want to go there ...
You are absolutely correct. I fell in love with mythology and Campell by stumbling on the this interview
As a Hindu, I'm advising you, if you want to learn about Lord Indra, never refer to the Puranas. They paint a very bad picture of Indra. The vedas are the best place to look for him. You will start appreciating him then.
I am sure you are correct. Joseph Campbell used this to make a point relevant to the Westerm audience and interviewer. Interviewer uncomfortable if you notice.
To understand him fully I would think that you want to see all sides of him.
U did nt get either puranas or vedas
Its not about good and bad pre buddhist hinduism vedas glorified the valour of indra, victory of indra. But post buddhist world of india inner mind has been given more importance thus warmongering virile indra's popularity declined due to his insecurity, thus wise God vishnu and shiva cult got risen
It would be nice if we do not issue sermons "as Hindu" and introduce dogmas when none exists in the spirit of Hinduism.This is about flowering of ones imagination, creativity, exploration and above all being open. Joseph Cambell's words are his own and thats a good thing.
Like all higher beings, Indra is a mix of good and bad. On one hand he is a fierce and righteous warrior and noble king of the heavens, on the other hand he is a booze chugging womanizer who likes to party wild and hard. He is the representation of the dualities that exist in all humans, even though he may not be human.
I think Campbell is referring to the Brahma Vaivarta Purana, which tells this story. It's not from the upanishads. Yet his power of narration / story telling is very impressive. ❤️
My thoughts exactly
True
There is an Indra in the Upanishads, i forget which one, but he and another god or character approach a master to ask him questions and Indra returns a few times after pondering on the answers they got. I think the questions was something as simple as "What is Brahman?"
You are correct He said exactly that at the beginning of the video
0:03
I could listen to Joseph Campbell *all day long* ... and sometimes I do just that. That last part:
"In heaven you'll be having such a marvelous time looking at God that you won't get your own experience at all. That’s not the place to have it. Here’s the place to have the experience. … Here and now.”
*Brilliant!!!*
I've just discovered Joseph Campbell and his speaking has been wonderful to listen to
@@user-jt5qf7ho1x I agree 100%. If you can get a hold of some of his old audio lectures, you'll be in for a treat. 🙂
Jai Shri Rama. I have been truly blessed to have been born in a Hindu home.
Fuck that. Christ is the way. Heathen.
@@joshuavickers9820 the way is here and now
its Aryan because of real krishna conciuosness not the fake one now
Joseph Campbell is now in heaven looking at God. Thank you for your work goo sir R I P 🎆
Which heaven and which god...?
He IS one with GOD.
@@whygohome172 ☺🎆
nonsense
This basic white supremacist is with his lord Lucifer.
Art of story telling is awesome 🙏🏻, joy is pure in his eyes ..
I had spent years studying yoga and Hinduism to no avail. Back in '87 when this first aired suddenly this brilliant man brought to life all these incredible mythologies, made them real and understood, significant and invaluable to our everyday lives.
it is not mythology it is our history
It's not mythology. Mythology would be some god building entire universe in 6 days.
@@ashishbhargava4159 and @VIKRAM PAUL If you think of it as 'history' you are likely to use it to build your own ego; whereas if you think of it as 'mythology', you can use it to overcome your ego and attain moksha. Your choice. Mano matra jagataha
@@youejtube7692 hmm i agree maybe you are right :)
@@ashishbhargava4159 Vedas and Puranas are myths. Ramayan and Mahabharat are history cum myth.
He destroyed the heavens in his last sentences in the video and he makes sense as well. This is the time to experience and reach varying levels of consciousness. Some people prefer the internal way and the others go out in their daily routine to experience the same bliss in varying degrees that is there for all of us.
Dear Sir!
You have summarised your understanding of Sanatana dharma beautifully.
thank you. joseph campbell is a hero of mine. i smile to see him here again. i was blessed to have heard him talk to a small gathering, nearly 40 years ago. truly being in his presence and hear him speak of the wisdom he'd acquired, was pure joy.
This story viewed and heard on PBS so many years ago saved me from any doubts.
Here and now! That simple statement echos through eternity and is the ultimate truth.
Joseph Campbell was brilliant, and wise. His books are a must read for everyone, you will see yourself, humanity, and the universe differently. Wonderful scholar, and person with deep understanding.
"here is the place to have the experience" thats so lovely
Actually 2 important things I would like to touch upon
1. Just look for difference between Bramhan and Bramha
2. When he said about years it means vaidic year which is different then the human years .
Almost eons in comparison to human years
Yes
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GOD BLESS YOU FOR HAVING SUCH A NICE DISCOURSE ON ANCIENT KNOWLEDGE & MANUSCRIPTS.
Wow I'm now 65 and I'm now facing what to do with my life. I have thought of casting off all the material energy I have surrounded myself with to go off into the womb of the forest, but that desire may just be me not facing my true self. Interesting.
Don't worry there are millions of life/births we are into the world. Say thanks to the god for starting to seek the truth, now you will only go upstairs on spiritual path
I hear self-doubt and self-deprecation in your words Laurie. What if 'going off into the womb of the forest' - in whatever form this may take, IS your way of 'facing your true self'? What if this desire (which you doubt) is your soul's calling to you? Surely in a state of retreat, stillness and contemplation we are able to go within and hear the voice of inner guidance and truth. Now more than ever this is the very best thing we can do!
Damn, if i live until your age i would probaly start taking DMT
Have always loved this story.
Me, too. And he tells it well.
I have the whole series on DVD. Haven't watched it in a while. Time for a viewing.
Hindu mythology is much more intresting huge diverse and realistic compared to some of modern times greatest fiction/fantasy creator like george rr martin jrr tolkien amd cs lewis
what do you think hollywood where did they get stories from?
Malcolm Mathias the myths reveal the truth. Christian Muslim and Jew are all actually Hindu. The etymology proves this.
The star wars force, the djed, is ancient knowledge. Repackaged for the twenty century. The Death Star is a representation of one of saturns moons. Tolkien s trilogy is about Saturn, the one ring to rule them all, speaks of the Zodiac. Three types of astrology, tropical, sidereal and Saturnian is the only true astrology. Nothing new under the sun, just new ways to confound and confuse the people.
Sanatana Dharma, meaning the Eternal Way/Order/System/Foundation, is the original name of Hinduism.
Sanatan dharma is not a religion..it is way of life..Dharma and religion are different things...when krishna talk about saving dharma he was not talking about saving hinduism, he was talking about right deeds.
Sanatan dharma was there when no religion existed. nobody founded sanatan dharma like other religions.
Hinduism is the westernised version of sanathana Dharma.
Hinduism was probably the name given by ancient invaders.
and it is not mythology it is our history
So beautiful. !! These are all metaphorically narrated in texts to give moral wisdom . To understand this takes a different level of consciousness which we lack today in the material world.
I bought this series on LaserDisc, and then on DVD. That's how good and important it is.
God, what a great narrator..
Hinduism is not a Myth It's the Universal Truth ॐ
Enjoyed learning about this - I know so little of the Hindu Beliefs.
So happy I’ve found this brilliant man.
My favorite! Bill Moyer and Joseph Campbell
love your life as it comes, struggle, fight & win. Winning is important with accordnce to law of universe and not against it , loved the idea of the man joseph campbell
JOE THANK YOU I HAVE HOPE WE CAN ALL SEE THE CONNECTIONS TO ALL.
All religions 👉 (paths created by a certain person) can laugh on *Many Gods* of Hindus... but but.. In Hinduism ..the ultimate is the ' Infinite consciousness...'
..infinite as thy sky itself.. " Brahm " or *Om* 🕉️..." meaning infinite eternal existence which a Hindu chants while praying to any diety like Ram, Krishna or Shiv . While praying or doing Yoga.. Om is chanted. Om 🕉️ is called to be the most fundamental sound produced by every particle in space (yes, there is no air in space.. but ocean of quantum particles exists everywhere).
Once read silently about Hinduism & get deep look in this matter. In Hinduism.. the soul is consciousness which take births in all species including human, animals, birds, plants , insects, etc. ....which on reaching higher platform.. becomes a angel or God, Goddess (Gods are high posts reached by pure beings for certain time from where they can look after general human and other beings and try to prevent mishappenings) ...and when it is trapped badly by his/her own emotions & tries to go against the laws of nature to fulfill its desires... it unknowingly becomes a ghost 👻 for certain time. And soul is not created by any God , but it is a part of the "ultimate consciousness" and it exists from time eternal. It is inseparable from infinite consciousness like a part of sky can't be separated from the rest sky.
In fact.. when one thinks deeply then one can feel that consciousness can't be created by another consciousness. No there is no god or Goddess etc. who has created other beings. If we exists today... then we must be existing before present and after... we must be existing from time eternal to upcoming forever. When you see in eye of a innocent baby, person, cat or other being.. You may feel that the soul existing in it cannot be created by someone else & there is something (soul or consciousness ) in those eyes which should and can't die even after the death of the body.
And even God is not personalized in Hinduism(the Sanatan dharma or the eternal way)... it is the ultimate consciousness itself.. infinite as sky. Hinduism is not a religion.. it has no founders, no particular holy book, it existed in ancient times all over the world (there are thousands of proofs being found in excavations) . And today's Quantum physics is forced to accept the existence of the ultimate consciousness. Hindu dharma or the eternal path is simply bowing to the 'ultimate consciousness' acting on living beings as forces of nature, which makes us feel its existence as our inner consciousness. Consciousness is existence.. all matter and energies are its passive and active expressions !
Do you believe that in the beginning of the universe.... there must not be a single particle present in space(opposite to both Big Bang & The Steady state theory). Either everywhere was empty space or everywhere was matter. I mean to say simply that whatever ' Existed' must be existing everywhere. It can't be that naturally at one place there was space and at other place was a 'small particles of matter'. Everywhere should & must naturally be the same. If automatically most of place was Empty Space... Then why why.. at some tiny place there was a ' lump of matter' ?? No matter how much mathematics or physics one knows... but if he can't himself get this point... He is a ridiculous person . Scientists have " brain + accumulated knowledge that was searched by previous scientists" .... but that doesn't means what I am telling is hard or wrong to understand.
First be simple... and then try to apply intelligence from the root of consciousness..... and one will know much about the core of the natural existence. I will explain by an example... If I am in a forest.. I knows naturally what things may be around me on, above or below the ground (& how I have to act). Only to know particular incidents we need information, details of that incident.(like.. in left side of me, may be at a distance of about 80 metres.. a fox has has just killed a rabbit.... this only I can't know simply by intelligence... but for it I have to get information about it may be by hearing a sound and moving to some distance in that direction.) we need information, details of that particular incident. But to know the basic core of existence... one should have silent deep instinct consciousness... for it reveals to us simple logic leading to the basic or ultimate thing which must exists by its own (without any cause or incident leading to its formation). But scientists are trying to reach that point by observing incidents happening in universe. But they can never reach so called basic fundamental particle or core of existence.. since however small the basic particle may be.. it will have shape (round, etc.) and size.. and then questions will arise that how it has that shape, .. from how much time does it has that size and shape.. billions, trillions of years or forever.. if forever then how it was fixed that it will have that size and shape only.. why from forever at some place there was blank emptiness and at some places there were 'somethings' other than blankness.. I mean matter !! ( 'All' energies and waves are nothing but movement of particles {material or smaller quantum particles, etc.} in so called emptiness of space, field is nothing but area being affected by a particle). Suppose we can somehow be able to see (or know) everything.. not only atoms, quarks, photons, dark matter xyz, etc.. but the smallest or basic particle or the thing which really exists.... then think.... At any place there can be something or nothing.. 'anything which will have form or shape' will be surrounded either by something other.. or total blank emptiness. So why there was at some place blank emptiness and at some places there were something rather than nothing?, how the shape and size of that something was fixed?, how can those basic things or particles etc could affect other things?, they can atmost collide with others but can't attract or repel or apply any force .. since there will be nothing but blank emptiness between them!, many more unanswerable questions will arise like what really is difference between that something which exists and nothing which surrounds the something.. why both exist..even when there was none to decide what will exist and where that something and where that nothing will exist. It is simple that whatever(something or totally nothing) exist from forever without any reason will exist everywhere and forever. If nothing exists everywhere.. then who are we here thinking about this all..!!.. means something exists without any cause or reason, from forever, everywhere. Then what
is reality..??!!!!.. all things we are seeing having shape are not real.. since on reaching deep we see there can be no boundary, colours are just illusion, things which we can touch.. and the blank emptiness which we can't are and must be the same. So all things are nothing but the same.. just one thing. Although there is nothing (like world appears to be) , although all is illusion, imaginary, although we are seeing, touching, feeling everything which doesn't have any meaning of itself.. then why are we are in illusion (since things look so real)... It is itself the answer of all.. that yes.. consciousness exists...... we exist .
I know this all by deep thinking.. searching for reason. questions after
questions raised in my mind.. and while thinking deeply on facts.. I wrote almost two thick notebooks. If anyone has some questions.. can ask me. *And I know this all is in Vedas from time unknown.*
A song in Rigveda.... czcams.com/video/zW2c1SPyy6I/video.html
Now the Quantum Mechanics is indicating scientists to move intellect towards Insight. For foreigners... India should be understood as insight, instinct and inception. Great scientists like Tesla(who meet Indian spiritual leader Swami Vivekanand), Einstein, Carl Sagan, Oppenheimer, Schrodinger, etc. knew this hidden silent Ancient India. czcams.com/video/Ugyrzr5Ds8o/video.html The great Indian mathematician Ramanujan even told that for him a mathematical formula doesn't have any value till it signifies the working of the ultimate reality.... the consciousness.
@@nothingwronginhinduism5923 "Knowledge is but a single point but the ignorant have multiplied it"... -Muhammad
Unity is reality, the seeming, the measured experence, the rational part. The former religion, logos, mind - The latter science, the rational knowledge which is parts, not the whole. "We know in part..." St Paul.
Congratulations on your efforts, may your blessings be increased in their appearance as they have been present since time inmemorial.
Great man. He also wrote books exposing the claimed uniqueness of the Jesus story (there were many other versions of that myth decades and centuries before Jesus' supposed existence), and Joseph Campbell was also one of the first writers to expose Josef Stalin.
Sure: buddy ,anything you say, nothing is the same as the Jesus story because the earlier stories are counterfeits with different deals.
Wonderfully told story wonderfully inspired by the drawings. Thank you. I happen to have read it from the book yesterday, and, here we go, the Google algorithm omniscient God is offering it today.
I miss seeing him on tv
Bill's done a lot of important work, and his series with Joseph Campbell was certainly no exception.
Indra and zeus are one and the same person both killed sea serpent monster both build places on mountain(Olympus) both use weapon as thunderbolt and hammer both were the kings for god and so on
Jc still inspires me n’ how to live out my own mythology here on earth. Thanks Joe! A’ho
Love our supreme lord Vishnu
Thankyou.❤
I love the last few lines. Somehow I like his respone to the story and his ideas much more than the story.
oh great! so well said! from one who tries to understand the spirit of Sanatana!!
.. the way he talks.. its like silk.. thank you! :)
Nice story with a nice message.
My bliss is now.
Excellent
The story as told is a way to see things. To go go away and meditate and seek your own path of awareness is another .
Thank you for posting this! Beautiful!! 🙏🏽
Beautiful story
4:27 "You want ants? This is how we get ants!"
Archer reference! Niceeeeee.
This story is not from the Upanishads. It is from the Brahmavaivarta Purana.
BS
@Barry Woods fake news. Our devtas have no link with desert cultures.
@Barry Woods brahman is not a god or god. It is being and non being, both the state and the action.
@@tinyspeaker lol lol lol
sheepish ewe was there? .. you were witness? ... you trust others to write the history for you?
Barry Woods brahman means that which is infinite , and growing, in samskrtam.
A-brahman would mean =>
NOT-Brahman in samskrtam. The “A” as a prefix is a simple negation.
So either they are completely different words, or, A-Brahman means a philosophy and a people completely opposed , consciously, to the philosophy of the followers of Brahman.
I think the latter is the case. Vedic philosophy and the upanishads do not separate the creator from the created- they look past duality.
This is beautiful. Very poetic.
Here and Now ...Make it a better place!
Correction..life of a Brahma is not 432,000 years. It is much much longer.
108 mahayugas is half day for Brahma. Each maha yuga consists of 4 yugas. Kaliyuga is shortest, which is 432,000 years. Longest krutayuga is more than 1.7 mn years.
And each Brahma lives 100 years. 100 brahmas make half a day for Vishnu. And 100 years for Vishnu, is 1 second for Shiva, that is when he opens his third eye.
Fun fact: Ramayana happened in 13th mahayuga (threthayuga) of this cycle.And, we are in 17th mahayuga.
@@elevatedaspirations because universe is a dream of Vishnu, that is why he is portrayed as sleeping on adisesha. And, hence this world is not real, just a dream, a maya
One sec. Of shiv?????.... Where did u get this part!!! It's only end on mahavishnu... There in no addition of shiv..
@@elevatedaspirations nice analogy 🙏
I love Joseph Campbell. Always have
This clip of Campbell ends with, “Here and now” - I recall reading Aldous Huxley’s book, “Island”, in which mynah birds flew about calling out that same phrase, to remind the islanders to be mindful in the present moment.
Delhi's old name is Indraprastha 💫
The priesthood society puts blinders on you so that you can’t experience your spiritual self. That’s why I left the priesthood society when I was 12 years old.
Thank you.
Here is now to have experience
Great video. However, Indra is hardly the Vedic equivalent of the Abrahamic God. He's the Vedic cognate of Zeus/Odin+Thor.
The God of Storms and Thunder, and The King of the Gods (hence why Thor+Odin).
And much like his Pre-Christian European cognates, the slayer of the Serpent of the Seas - Vritra (cognate with Jormungandr).
well...in some theories the abrahamic god, at least in part, evolves out of a cananite storm god i want to say, evidenced by the parts of the old testament which refer to god as dwelling on the mountain top
@@matthewjanney2399 Interesting - Thanks for sharing that.
So a question for the western civilization, does this reminds you of the movie matrix?
Of course matrix is inspired by myth
@@macklemo5968 like the earth is flat??
@@nikthinks no like people get crazy when they don't understand the matrix. That's the answer
@@nikthinks only Europeans believed earth to be flat, Indian scriptures wrote earth is round thousands of years ago.
@@allout8033 my sarcasm is lost on you and the one above. What a waste
Mind blown
All religions 👉 (paths created by a certain person) can laugh on *Many Gods* of Hindus... but but.. In Hinduism ..the ultimate is the ' Infinite consciousness...'
..infinite as thy sky itself.. " Brahm " or *Om* 🕉️..." meaning infinite eternal existence which a Hindu chants while praying to any diety like Ram, Krishna or Shiv . While praying or doing Yoga.. Om is chanted. Om 🕉️ is called to be the most fundamental sound produced by every particle in space (yes, there is no air in space.. but ocean of quantum particles exists everywhere).
Once read silently about Hinduism & get deep look in this matter. In Hinduism.. the soul is consciousness which take births in all species including human, animals, birds, plants , insects, etc. ....which on reaching higher platform.. becomes a angel or God, Goddess (Gods are high posts reached by pure beings for certain time from where they can look after general human and other beings and try to prevent mishappenings) ...and when it is trapped badly by his/her own emotions & tries to go against the laws of nature to fulfill its desires... it unknowingly becomes a ghost 👻 for certain time. And soul is not created by any God , but it is a part of the "ultimate consciousness" and it exists from time eternal. It is inseparable from infinite consciousness like a part of sky can't be separated from the rest sky.
In fact.. when one thinks deeply then one can feel that consciousness can't be created by another consciousness. No there is no god or Goddess etc. who has created other beings. If we exists today... then we must be existing before present and after... we must be existing from time eternal to upcoming forever. When you see in eye of a innocent baby, person, cat or other being.. You may feel that the soul existing in it cannot be created by someone else & there is something (soul or consciousness ) in those eyes which should and can't die even after the death of the body.
And even God is not personalized in Hinduism(the Sanatan dharma or the eternal way)... it is the ultimate consciousness itself.. infinite as sky. Hinduism is not a religion.. it has no founders, no particular holy book, it existed in ancient times all over the world (there are thousands of proofs being found in excavations) . And today's Quantum physics is forced to accept the existence of the ultimate consciousness. Hindu dharma or the eternal path is simply bowing to the 'ultimate consciousness' acting on living beings as forces of nature, which makes us feel its existence as our inner consciousness. Consciousness is existence.. all matter and energies are its passive and active expressions !
Do you believe that in the beginning of the universe.... there must not be a single particle present in space(opposite to both Big Bang & The Steady state theory). Either everywhere was empty space or everywhere was matter. I mean to say simply that whatever ' Existed' must be existing everywhere. It can't be that naturally at one place there was space and at other place was a 'small particles of matter'. Everywhere should & must naturally be the same. If automatically most of place was Empty Space... Then why why.. at some tiny place there was a ' lump of matter' ?? No matter how much mathematics or physics one knows... but if he can't himself get this point... He is a ridiculous person . Scientists have " brain + accumulated knowledge that was searched by previous scientists" .... but that doesn't means what I am telling is hard or wrong to understand.
First be simple... and then try to apply intelligence from the root of consciousness..... and one will know much about the core of the natural existence. I will explain by an example... If I am in a forest.. I knows naturally what things may be around me on, above or below the ground (& how I have to act). Only to know particular incidents we need information, details of that incident.(like.. in left side of me, may be at a distance of about 80 metres.. a fox has has just killed a rabbit.... this only I can't know simply by intelligence... but for it I have to get information about it may be by hearing a sound and moving to some distance in that direction.) we need information, details of that particular incident. But to know the basic core of existence... one should have silent deep instinct consciousness... for it reveals to us simple logic leading to the basic or ultimate thing which must exists by its own (without any cause or incident leading to its formation). But scientists are trying to reach that point by observing incidents happening in universe. But they can never reach so called basic fundamental particle or core of existence.. since however small the basic particle may be.. it will have shape (round, etc.) and size.. and then questions will arise that how it has that shape, .. from how much time does it has that size and shape.. billions, trillions of years or forever.. if forever then how it was fixed that it will have that size and shape only.. why from forever at some place there was blank emptiness and at some places there were 'somethings' other than blankness.. I mean matter !! ( 'All' energies and waves are nothing but movement of particles {material or smaller quantum particles, etc.} in so called emptiness of space, field is nothing but area being affected by a particle). Suppose we can somehow be able to see (or know) everything.. not only atoms, quarks, photons, dark matter xyz, etc.. but the smallest or basic particle or the thing which really exists.... then think.... At any place there can be something or nothing.. 'anything which will have form or shape' will be surrounded either by something other.. or total blank emptiness. So why there was at some place blank emptiness and at some places there were something rather than nothing?, how the shape and size of that something was fixed?, how can those basic things or particles etc could affect other things?, they can atmost collide with others but can't attract or repel or apply any force .. since there will be nothing but blank emptiness between them!, many more unanswerable questions will arise like what really is difference between that something which exists and nothing which surrounds the something.. why both exist..even when there was none to decide what will exist and where that something and where that nothing will exist. It is simple that whatever(something or totally nothing) exist from forever without any reason will exist everywhere and forever. If nothing exists everywhere.. then who are we here thinking about this all..!!.. means something exists without any cause or reason, from forever, everywhere. Then what
is reality..??!!!!.. all things we are seeing having shape are not real.. since on reaching deep we see there can be no boundary, colours are just illusion, things which we can touch.. and the blank emptiness which we can't are and must be the same. So all things are nothing but the same.. just one thing. Although there is nothing (like world appears to be) , although all is illusion, imaginary, although we are seeing, touching, feeling everything which doesn't have any meaning of itself.. then why are we are in illusion (since things look so real)... It is itself the answer of all.. that yes.. consciousness exists...... we exist .
I know this all by deep thinking.. searching for reason. questions after
questions raised in my mind.. and while thinking deeply on facts.. I wrote almost two thick notebooks. If anyone has some questions.. can ask me. *And I know this all is in Vedas from time unknown.*
A song in Rigveda.... czcams.com/video/zW2c1SPyy6I/video.html
Now the Quantum Mechanics is indicating scientists to move intellect towards Insight. For foreigners... India should be understood as insight, instinct and inception. Great scientists like Tesla(who meet Indian spiritual leader Swami Vivekanand), Einstein, Carl Sagan, Oppenheimer, Schrodinger, etc. knew this hidden silent Ancient India. czcams.com/video/Ugyrzr5Ds8o/video.html The great Indian mathematician Ramanujan even told that for him a mathematical formula doesn't have any value till it signifies the working of the ultimate reality.... the consciousness.
VERY NICE.
Wow! The Last two sentences from Joseph Campbell are the most Profound and the most Beautiful ! 🥰💖
Here & Now.
Joseph Campbell
Born
White Plains
New York 🇺🇸 USA
@7:25 PM
Life path 7
Born Year of the Dragon 🐉
Sidereal D1 Vedic birth chart:
•*RaHu 1st house Ruler Mercury/Virgo
•Saturn 5th house Capricorn 🐊
•Venus 6th house Ruler Shani Aquarius
•7th House Ruler Jupiter/Guru Pisces
-Jupiter Hamsa Yoga Ruler Guru
•Sun Ruler Guru
•Mercury Ruler Guru
•Mars Atmakaraka In Reviti
•KeTu Ruler Guru
•11th house Moon In Pushya for Cancer
Extremely powerful RaJa Yogas formed in his D1 chart
Went to *Vedic school in Europe 1924 in his
Mercury/Jupiter-Guru vimshottari Mahadasa cycle @ age 20
He was also a student of Sanskrit
Also:
College in USA @ Columbia University
-Teacher, author, speaker and traveled the world studying many cultures; the Vedas were his favorite “quote”
/// Study his entire life before harshly dogmatically judging him
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The experience he speaks of at the end of this marvellous video is in fact Anubhava knowledge~experience. This is available for any qualified or ripe person. The I is then known to be the sentient living principle and the body/mind/senses/world picture is known to be an inert appearance only. This is both what is and the WAY.
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Beautifull together (mostly if seen as the Indra that welcomes his own kingdom, even if scared and made to feel weak by Brahma’s blinking)
Buddha gets us off of the wheel of life and death.
He lead the story in a different way. But the point of conclusion is somewhat near the actual truth what Upanishads convey.
That blue and black boy is Bhagwaan Swayam Vasudeva Shri Krishna Keshava. Hare Krishna. 🙏 though the zest of the story is that u don't need to renounce everything and go to the forest to experience eternal bliss that is Brahman, nor u will experience eternal bliss by fulfilling ur unlimited desires which are temporary. You can experience that eternal bliss sitting at home, with ur job and life by destroying your ego and curbing ur desires devoting yourself to Bhagwan Vishnu forever and ever.
You are totally correct and spot on ofcourse. Do however give him the due of having memorised so many myths including the one of Indra so we may laugh at our foolishness sometimes.
@@JoshSasger True. All the rest to him for remembering and also spreading these wise stories which may generate the seed of curiosity in many ignorant people suffering from depression, etc.
Here and now...
Very grateful expired is video
Everything was beautiful until the end when he switched to Christianity.. you won't experience it until you go to heaven. Totally not a Hindu idea. The only way to find it is through this human birth. Going to heaven is like going to a five star hotel. It is for enjoyment and then you get kicked out when your merits are used up. There is no Road from Heaven to liberation. The access is only through the human birth. So many jewanmuktas .. Here right now.. Our true gurus
Lol, you need to listen to it again and understand it. He said the same thing.
I found out the same. I felt he is not much knowledgeable in this. But appreciate his understand
Joseph Campbell has written many books on Indian religious stories and myths. Also .. we all make sense of other religions through the lenses of our own traditions. That's how religions interact.
You have said the exact same thing that I was thinking. Just goes to show how shallow his knowledge is!!
@@kalyaniraghavan403 you need to watch and listen again before drawing stupid conclusions he literally said what was written by om peace above don't just rush to insult
His very last words before the video ended were " here and now". All roads lead to Rome, but turns out we don't even need a road.
cool stuff it reminds me a Matrix story
matrix is inspired from the concept of Maya-the illusion of the self .
Over lunch the deacon explained that he had studied at the University of Chicago under Campbell’s friend, the anthropologist Mircea Eliade. The deacon informed me that on his deathbed Joseph Campbell asked for a Catholic priest and was reconciled with the church of his childhood.
Another deathbed story... After all the research he made, all the conclusions he reached, suddenly, just because he's dying, he would "convert". Catholicism is but one of the many interpretations of reality, you're free to follow what you want, in the same way that any other person, including those who already died and aren't here to defend themselves from such claims. Needing to agree with your religion tells much about you and catholics in general, not about Joseph Campbell. Such an egoistic point of view, while he was so broadly accepting the different ways in which humans explained and expressed the perennial reality.
They're not making any more Joseph Campbell's.
I believe that indian seers could sense multiverse.
One cycle of Brahma is 10 -²² years.
very cool
Here and now 😉
Yep....
“Goosebumps”
If someone could help me...What was the terrible Gods name that Indra encountered that stopped the water from flowing...I turned on captions..and they glossed over the Gods name as well...God i just adore Campbell...Funny the thunderbolts in a box...Made bt the dwarfs and the Cyclops as in other myths...Volcanoes make their own lightning right...i love in the myths where wind is kept in large leather bags or like the day the earth froze movie based on the Finnish saga Kalevala...
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The depiction of Vishwakarma here is eerily similar to that of a Mughal
statesman. Even the devas shown in court of Indra have a similar appearance. The facial features and dressing style shown here are uncharacteristic, to say the least, for a Hindu deity.
Looks like the artist took some creative freedom in mixing up cultures and timelines here :)
That's a really interesting observation.
Abhishek Chakraborty well that's India for ya the conquerors becomes the conquered in India
maybe the artist is showing eventually all those who come into India wether they come in peace or not in time they would be absorbed in the tolerant crucible of HINDUISIM
You can only conqueror yourself.
Abhishek Chakraborty exactly what I thought when I saw Vishwakarma. Looks a lot like a moghul statesman.
Incredible series!
Shivaism explain it very well in upanishad ,upnish is for everyone vedas are reserved for some people only
are upanishad story telling corny?
Un-pride our hearts
What a sad state of a country has this become
I'm getting this knowledge from a person from away who studied it. It's not a bad thing at all.
It just makes you wonder will india be ever in the and state as it was millennia ago?
Will it again produce, adiyogi or krishna or buddha or swami Vivekananda?
With the current direction, no.
Why when he says that I can completely see it perfectly
Each Brahma emerges from the navel of a Vishnu and creates a universe. All Vishnus emanate from MahaVishnu.
Each Brahma emerges from the navel of a Vishnu and creates a universe. All vishnus emanate from Indra and Indra never taken bierth and he never ends
@@yogeshsharma5425, Indra is a title given to the one who sits on the throne of Indraprahasta in Deva Loka.
@@yogeshsharma5425, Brahma is not self-created as even he has a creator hence he is not the true creator. Each Brahma performs the task of creating a material universe and each Brahma has a lifespan equal to his creation. Brahma, the Creator meets his end in the final dissolution.
@@DevendraMahendraSingh you should read Rigveda in that it was written that once an energy(Indra) is apperared that energy(indra) wants to make creation then that energy(Indra) makes five god's Agni, Vayu, Varun, Surya, Chandra and that five god's whose name are parbraham, parmatma or brahaman then the body of five god's created Brahma for creation, Vishnu for protection and shankar for destruction after that when parbraham(five god's) give order to Brahma to create life in the planet which he creates then from his eyes he made rudra who is also known as shiva the rudra(Shiva) is half men and half women also known as shiv Shakti(ardhnareshvar) then rudra(shiv) made his 11 forms which is also known as 11 rudras who has given birth to different creatures in the planet which includes birds, animals, humans and insects etc. Then after that when Brahma received order from parbraham who are actually get order from energy(Indra) that you have to also make herbs for human then they made 2 Ashvins who are actually the god's who make herbs and medicines in plants and trees in the planet and you know after death it is said that Yama dev take our soul you know who is Yama dev here he is shiv because he created the creatures in the world and after death he takes us into the Yama Lok after that he decides that what he have to do with us if we have done good things he gives us chance to take birth as human and if we have done bad things we take the birth of animals and one thing more if we have done good work then shiv gives us chance to see the tridevas(Brahma, Vishnu and shankar), parbraham (five god's) and also we can see Indra the almighty king of all gods
@@DevendraMahendraSingh that's all Mr prove that I am wrong I have made all the puranas fake because purans are fake and vedas are true and vedas never ends like parbrahma(five god's) and parmatma (Indra)
This is not from the upnishad it is from Puranas
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Dharma is natural duty of any being
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Boss - it is the BRAHMA-VAIVARTA Purana (NOT an upanishad). Please correct the title.
I kept the title the same as the original video.
@@AndyKwontasticthe original video title is wrong
Questions for Hindu scholars is Brahma a god of all and is Indra not really a person but a like god entity that lives is side of all man??? Kind of like a holly spirit in a way I’m curious to know thanks
Sanatan is far beyond human imagination. In the infinite multiverse we humans are so small that a dust particle is far bigger than a whole human race.
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I appreciate J Campbell, however, the story is a little off. The Vedas teach that there are countless universes, each with a Brahma (not a Brahma in each galaxy).
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But these are true not just beliefs or mythologies..You can verify by reading old texts of ours...there are science chemistry biology maths space and time everything...