KIOTI Tractor loaded into the N&N dump trailer to get fixed
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- čas přidán 28. 05. 2022
- Loading up and taking the KIOTI tractor out for repair in the N&N dump trailer.
More on the KIOTI DK4710SE HST here:www.kioti.com/products/tracto...
More details on the N&N Dump trailer GALVANIZED 6X12 5 TON here:
nnremorques.ca/en/dump-traile... - Jak na to + styl
My DK4710SE with 3rd function is coming next week, now i know to reinforce the loader handle first thing! 😄
Mine was a after market one and I was tough on it! But it will help to reinforce it!
Love watching ur videos! JOhnny from Sask Canada!
" Sometimes you need to dig urself into a hole "
Excellent way to get the jack stands free!
Yup, I did not have much of a choice! Thanks!
The Tyson beef plant I work in used to be a new Holland tractor plant in the 80s it's interesting finding some old footings of old machine's that used to be in place and the old rail car system to bring in stuff we still use.
Cool!
I agree, I love my kioti ck3510se.. I always use the linked pedal. Love it.
Very cool, they make nice tractors! Bit then again so does most other makers!
You could also reinforce it with pipe have a local welder reinforce it for you. I'm sure it wouldn't cost much. Really enjoyed the dealership walk around.
Thanks for the tip!
Good morning Chris!! 😀😀
Glad to hear that they stood behind the lever. That is kinda a bad design. But not much a person can do except reinforce it like you did.
Have a great day my friend!!😀😀
Logger Al
Good morning! Yup, it is al better now!
Great stuff Chris Thanks for sharing 👍
Thanks Frank!
Smart guy … do what you gotta do to get things done and keep working!!
I don't know about smart, I just am to dumb to quit!!!
@@InTheWoodyard lol I feel ya there I’m the same way
That’s nice that the tractor fits. Definitely be nice for them jobs with lots trees. I need a trailer for mine.
Yes it is!
At least you know you can trailer your tractor , nice to know that .
Yet it sure is!
What that mechanic said is what convinced me to buy my ck4010se.
Yes, that is what Tony has also, he said he rarely uses it however.
@@InTheWoodyard he barely uses his tractor ?
I bought a set of titan brand forks off Amazon. They were a lot cheaper than any dealers around me and rated for almost double the weight of what they carried.
They’ve went up a lot in price though 🤬
Yes, everything has gone way up and it will continue for quite a while yet!
great vid! i've been looking for a compact tractor that will fit in my 6x10 dump trailer! just the tractor needs to fit in, the bucket can hang over either end! some of the prices are ridiculous on older ones like i'm looking for. i have a Case 580CK in the yard but it's to big to transport!! GNI !!
They are handy, good luck finding one, the good ones go fast!
They must make BANK on delivery fees. I just rented a skid steer from 40 minutes away for 500 bucks. The total was 1200!
Yup, delivery prices are nuts!
Strong ramps to take that weight. We bent the ramps on our old ramp truck car hauler loading our tractor on it lol. They were real nice aluminum ramps. Bent them back as good as we could and welded in some more aluminum underneath them to strengthen them up. Never had a problem with cars or trucks put that tractor over them one time and bent them. Would like to buy a new tractor but for as much as I use it and the house I have it at here I am only at part of the year since my main house is on the beach in SC then the other house in Gulf Shores, AL. It would be nice to have in SC too though since I have another piece of property with 15 acres but anything that is left there gets stolen so if I had a tractor out there it would just be gone lol. Unless I built a house and lived there might someday. I have an International probably the same size as your tractor I have had nearly 20 years.
Yes, the ramps are very heavy duty!
Not a bad of a fix till you were able get it in with the correct fix..
Thanks, I had to finish the job some how!
A riddle bucket would do away with a lot of manual handling Chris. I'd say it would pay for itself in no time. You could split into it, tip it into your new rebar mesh drying cages ( :-) ) & load out trailers from the cages - no more tossing firewood. :-) More faster, easier on the old body (we're the same age...) - makes good sense. If each cage was a face-chord/half chord in capacity, you could just tip the cages straight into the trailer.. waay fast & easy.
That sounds good. I would only need about 700 of them, make them and send them to me.
@@InTheWoodyard I live in the heart of Turf country - I.E peat that is harvested for fire-fuel in compressed "sods" that get spat out of a machine in lines on the ground. The guys that make money have handling gear. The rest have sore backs. Making things more mechanised would be what keeps you in the woodyard for years to come - you're only ever one injury/worn out joint/whatever from not being able to handle lots of physical labour. Working machines smart - in a simple, not extravagant way - is, longer term, just smart,
I went with John Deere , largely because there is a Deere dealership 5 miles from my house. I grew up around IH tractors, I had intended to get a Case IH, or Kubota but, the I got a bad vibe from the sales guy at the dealership that had red,blue and orange tractors. Plus that dealership was 20 miles from me. Most tractors are pretty decent, a good dealership that has been and will be around for a long time is probably more important than the color or the tractor.
Good point, the same thing happened to me at the two Deere dealers , no one would answer my questions, they just pointed at the brochures and said it's in there, so......
I dont know how I missed this video when you first uploaded.
Seems like s lot of work for a loader handle. Seems like the dealer could have ups the part and let you put it on. My dealer did that for me on a fuel solenoid. It sucks fixing your own warranty. But you would have saved so much time!!
Yup, that is how it works!
I am looking for the day you get that MB-22 set up and running 1 thing you will find nice about it is you can do wood right into the dump trailer and deliver it without ever touching it as long as the customer does not mind getting wet wood I do this all the time got to do a load right now 24 inches long for a boiler money money you have a great day you hard working guy
You are in luck!!!!!! Tomorrows video is EASTONMADE 22MB FIREWOOD PROCESSOR!!!!
@9:45. Bottle jack to relieve the pressure on the jack stands. 👍
Yup, mine was at home!
Hulk smash! Somebody doesn't know his own strength keeps breaking levers!
Yup, it can happen!
Crafty fix there Chris.
Thats the Dealer I had to get My Trailer from, Purchased it at the Brokaw Dealer near Me then when I had time I went over there to pick it up. 21 Ft tilt deck. I did not want to deal with Ramps.
I hauled it Home with My Jeep liberty. It was just under the Tow limit of the Jeep. hahaha.
Mike M.
That must have made you jeep cry!
Gee Chris, you'r a bit harsh on control levers. 1st its the Ultra and now the KIOTI. Guess it has to do with your "In the Woodyard exercise program" (maybe idea for a new channel) I am impressed with your repairs, I am now carrying bolts in my tool bag for emergencies.
Keep up the great Vid's and always stay safe.
Thanks Dan, I don't know my own strength I guess!
Nice job, bet going to the tractor yard was like a walk into candy land, at least it would be for me... where I bought my tractor, the guy has a pretty spread of attachments plus is a chainsaw and mower dealer... my GF refuses to accompany me if I'm going there, not fair.
I have the 4010 hst, I looked into the linked peddle and did some thinking about it, its not really worth the time, money or long term imo, my reasoning... we have tier engines that re-burn once the exhaust container sensors register full, if you consistently run at idle with short accelerations (linked peddle) your going to fill that filter faster, the older the filter gets the less its going to burn off during regens, its better to run the engine hotter whether your moving or not with the throttle at +1100rpm all the time then waffle back and forth from idle to the rpms from the linked peddle calling for power... just my thoughts though.
I've had my Kioti since 2018, the only issue so far is the front axle is leaking out the seals by both tires, its a simple gasket and I'm going to do the repair myself, my co-worker has the same machine as mine and his were also leaking and he said the fix was very easy, so I'm going to give it a shot, but all in all, I've abused my tractor and all it has done was ask for more abuse, one of the better purchases I've made without knowing to much about the machine.
That is good to hear, I am very happy so far and I have used it fairly hard on 135 hours.
The red green show!
Yup, except I use pink duct tape! HA!
G’morning Chris. What’s with you and broken handles ? Cool to see the tractor/trailer combo.
GoodNightIrene
I guess I am to strong!
Have a great day.
You too!
Your trailer is 12' right? If so mine is a 14' and I always left bucket on mine when needed to move it but I didn't move mine to far, but I was surprised taking your bucket off the loader fit in nice without having to leave it up to shut your doors. Nice. I'm gonna try that next.
Yes, my trailer is 12' Good luck!
You can haul it with implements. Just keep the loader raised up. If you are worried about it bleeding off put in a board to block it so it can't come down. I don't think you need to worry about it as I have hauled mine without issues over 100 miles. Also, when you load the trailer, you can keep the back support legs one notch off of the ground, so it does not get stuck down. Secondly if you do get stuck and you don't have any other alternatives, you can unhitch the trailer and then lower the nose of the trailer and you should be golden.
Thanks for all the tips Steven!
That tractor was nice and snug in there. I’m thinking road trip to show Kenny what a real tractor is??
Ha! I do not want him to cry....again.
When you loaded the tractor, I hope you had your truck in neutral and your break set, rocking back and forth can damage park in an automatic transmission.
Thanks for the tip Carl!
Eric O from South Main Auto advises using a brake pedal prop to set your hydraulic breaks whenever loading or winching. It protects the transmission pawl from breaking. His family was in the big truck wrecker business…
At some point in the future,
It would be fascinating to see what the tongue weight of the trailer is when the tractor is driven in and what the tractors tongue weight is with the tractor backed in to the trailer.
I have measure it a couple times and it is under the max by plenty.
@@InTheWoodyard am wondering about the weight distribution,
Front to back.
Not the gvwr
Those sure are nice tractors.
If I may offer a fix.?
A piece of thin walled tubing 4 or 5 inches long and split it in half lengthwise would work. Use half of it on the lever and put a small hose clamp on each end (or each side of where that hole is for the electrical.).
Best Regards.
Yup, that would work nice too! Thanks !!!
This is a perfect idea. Some people "like" to make-work & get their "money's worth"( of a warrenty claim) on a very-very simple self fix.
Get some small diameter bar stock and weld them instead of tape and you should be good to go for years to come
I plan on it soon! Thanks!
C, not sure if you did say but did you give any thoughts of removing the loader? It looks like the joystick would stay on the frame mount loader tower?? It’s a very simple process on hard level surface and will take off 800-1000lbs plus give more room in the trailer.
Yeah that’s a bad design. It should of been a solid shaft or twice as big if they wanted to stay in tube/pipe form. As you pointed out and what I mentioned when you were shopping for tractors the console mounted loader joystick is a much better design and location. What is it with you and joysticks??😆
Yup, I am pretty good at breaking things! Yes, I could have take off the loader, but not taking it off was easier!
Some day a video on the old car in the Wood yard ??
It is a 1940 chevy truck, I use it as a prop for my photography business, no I am not going to fix it up.
Great video! Does your tractor have wheel spacers or is it stock?
Stock. But they are weighted.
Kubota uber delivery service. New income stream for the wood yard :) hehe
No thanks, I do not want to do that any more that I have to!
chris , oh goodness. jack up that rear bumper to release that pin :)
No, that would have made it worse!
Man they don’t build em like they used to. I own a 1972 case construction king all original levers remain intact I did just have to replace the starter was able to do that myself
The loader lever I had put on for the third function, I am not sure it was a OEM part.
I would look at replacing 1 of the cap head screws with a bolt 4" or so long and use a locknut to lock it in place where it needs to go and then you can use the bolt as a fully rigid splint for whatever else you use to brace the lever.
It's bad design to put the weak point so close to the point where you can get the most leverage on it. Having the entry hole 4" or so up the shaft would give you a much stronger assembly.
Yes I agree!
I’m surprised to see that weak point in the hydraulic control arm . Kubota ran the wire harness up the outside of the arm, leaving the control arm strong. Design flaw . Keep on cutting
My thoughts exactly!
That dealership there has so much stuff I look at and drool when I'm up at my cottage in that area! How were they to work with?
Good so far, the where the nicest and most helpfull of all the dealerships I stopped at when tractor shopping.
Nice tractor tour at the dealership!
Thanks 👍
Maybe I’m not the first to suggest this, but if you ever get those jacks stuck underneath the trailer again, you could lower down the tongue of the trailer to bring up the rear, to get your jacks out.
Yup, but it was hooked up to my truck!
@@InTheWoodyard Oh! So you also couldn’t unhook! Shovel still worked though!
Flip that bolt next time your tractor goes for a ride. Trust me as a guy that constantly screws stuff up that looks exactly like my kind of problem.
If your considering a rock bucket like in the video I would really look at the one with the grapple since you already have the plumbing.
Thanks for the tip, witch bolt?
I'm guessing, the one that damn near tore a canyon in your tyre. Either reverse it, or cut it down a touch and put a dome nut on it...🤔🤷♂️👍🇦🇺🪓
@@InTheWoodyard Tassie is right the one near the tire. Given how tight everything is I know if it was me I'd eventually tear a chuck out of the tire.
@@InTheWoodyard 05:40. Flip it or cut off the excess.
A . how does that get broken ?
So other owners can avoid breaking theirs?
B. Next time you have the tractor on the trailer ,please consider stopping by the scales .
To find out about the weight distribution
( Front too rear )
C. Did you price the
Rock buckets and forks?
To much strength I guess! You always put more weight to the front on a load, my tractor weighs about 5500 pounds with the weighted tires so putting the rear in first is a must. Yes I have looked at several now, I am not sure on one brand yet.
Too much weight for a 1/2ton truck to pull, tongue weight is important ! That is too much weight for a 1/2ton truck to pull. You need to go to a weight station to see if you are overloaded. If you load the bucket and grapple into the bed of your truck it will be over loaded. Check your tongue weight to see what your truck can pull all that weight. Always be Safe. Get a Bumper jack to lift the back up to get the stands up. Looks like very thin metal that holds that together. Time to Trade your Old Tractor in for an Up Grade !
I think he needs to have everything weighed and show us that this is not all overloaded. Good idea Jean.
@@stanleykeith6969 why should he need to show us anything? I would recommend getting it weighed instead of guessing but I Knor anyone else is his keeper other than perhaps the DOT and his insurance.
For all of the positive publicity, Kioti to upgrade you for free.
That would be nice, maybe some day!
Tractor fit nice on the trailer! Seems like a bad design on the control lever. You should just go back and trade it on the bigger Kioti you wanted with the control lever back by the seat. That will fix the design issue🤣🤣 👍🏻👍🏻Gni
Not a bad idea!
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Thanks Jeff!
How much can a 2015 Toyota Tundra pull?
The V8 is offered with the five-speed automatic only. Either engine can be had with four-wheel drive. Maximum towing capacity is 7,100 pounds.
Good to know! Mine is a 2015 and can pull 9,900.
Don't forget your ramps.
I was told that they would work on the tractor in the trailer and that I would not need to be unloaded, and that is what happened.
ME I WOOD GOT THE CAB ONE JUST FOR HEAT AND AC MOSTY HEAT I COLD BOOD LIKE A SNAKE NEED A HEAT ROCK IN THE SUMMER LOL
Yup the cab would be nice some times, maybe some day!
How did the truck handle with tractor in trailer?
Just fine i have had much heavier loads of green wood on before.
You could take the loader off. I take mine off to make it lighter. What model kiote is that? My handle on my 3510 is back farther.
I got it fixed about a year ago, it is a 4710
So you did not use the jack stands when unloading? Did they rattle when up? Other then tires hitting the bolts of trailer. I believe it would just slide on slick floor if a tire rubbed the edge and not bend the wall out...Looked like your dealer atleast had several on hand. Alot of the dealerships around here are pretty slim pickings on sub compact tractors. If only the attachments were the price of candy! Kinda like buying a reciprocating saw. They give you the saw for 90 bucks and then want 75 bucks for a package of decent blades to use it!
Good catch, I forgot to put them down! My bad!I realized about 1/2 way down!
@@InTheWoodyard No worries...I was watching the bed of truck ready for tires to come off the ground and it barely moved. She handled it just fine without the stands.👍
How did your truck haul that tractor? Did you feel the front end coming up at all on the truck? Be careful hauling that around. It's a lot of weight on your trucks hitch and could rip it right off the frame. Especially with the rust crap that happens to all our stuff.
Just fine, it is rated for 10,000 and the trailer is 2,400 and the tractor is 5,500 =7,900 so.....
@@InTheWoodyard Are those base weights or do they include loader, weighted tires, fuel, spare tire, side boards, ramps, rear jack stands etc etc? Hitch also has a max tongue weight as well. 10,000lbs is with a properly balanced load neither tail heavy or overly tongue heavy.
@In The Woodyard Chris, its hard to believe that a 1/2 is rated that high of 10,000lb. What is the tongue weight ?
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Thanks!
Chris I would be very surprised if your truck is rated to pull hat much weight. If you get pulled over it cold be costly.
My capacity is 10,000, the trailer is 2,400 the tractor is 5,500=7,900. so......
Does the 10,000 lb include the weight of the truck.? When it comes time to stop is when all that weight counts.
Let’s start this right lol. Kenny did it lol
Ha, maybe, he was on it once!
Why couldn’t you just bring the arms down on the trailer doors so you didn’t have to do anything with cover?
I wanted it tight to the front so it could not move.
I looked at Kioti, the local dealer is not very friendly. Ended up getting a L3901. Wonder if you drool in tge camera store as bad as you were walking thru all the implements?? Have a Safe Day
There was some nice stuff there!
There would be days like this mama said. Mama said! (Now that is going waaaaaayyyy back for song reference)
Yup!
I was just thinking about your tire lock... since your trailer has 2 wheels on each side, thiefes could just take the one off and drive with just 1 one the one side :s
Yup, that is why I am putting on nut locks.
........... but, would the NS5310 fit in your dump trailer???
I would be okay f it did not, i can get a car hauler trailer when I need one.
Can't you lift the loader arm to get more inches
I am not sure what you mean, but I am kinda slow.
I swear that Toyota answers the call day after day.
Yup, 202k on it, I bought it new and have only done regular maintenance and tires, battery, brakes and struts.
How yah like the Tundra Chris? What year?
2015,202k I bought it new and have done tires, struts, brakes, battery and regular maintenance, best truck I have owned, and I have had Fords and Chevys.
@@InTheWoodyard looking to get a used one once prices come down or by next summer.
My Kubota dealer doesn't charge me to come get my tractor for warrantee work! Never heard of having to pay them to come get it... Oh well, at least you can get it in your trailer.
I am about 30 miles away.
That is too much weight for a 1/2ton truck to pull. You need to go to a weight station to see if you are overloaded. If you load the bucket and grapple into the bed of your truck it will be over loaded. Check your tongue weight to see what your truck can pull all that weight. Always be Safe. Get a Bumper jack to lift the back up to get the stands up. Looks like very thin metal that holds that together. Time to Trade your Old Tractor in for an Up Grade !
My truck is rated for 10,000 and my trailer is 2,400 and the tractor is 5,500=7,900 so.........
@@InTheWoodyard Chris, its hard to believe that a 1/2 is rated that high. What is the tongue weight ?
How much can a 2006 Toyota Tundra pull?
The V8 is offered with the five-speed automatic only. Either engine can be had with four-wheel drive. Maximum towing capacity is 7,100 pounds.
No rest for the tractor or you
Nope, lots to do!
I got the cab an the door is not in the way like you think
Do you shoot videos every day and get on and off 5-8 times to go 50 yards every time you use it?
Windows don't clean themselves. Every tractor Ive run has had a cab. The only reason I like the cab is it keeps me warm in the winter and dry when its raining. I guess the radio is a nice option too but I rarely use it.
@@InTheWoodyard do you use your tractor every video
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Thanks!
time stamp 6:57
I'm also proud of my 4 inches 😂
HA!
my wife also says it fits just right 😅
I'm wondering why no jack, digging holes under the support leg? Why leave ragged/sharp edges of bolts sticking out when so little clearance? Why you didn't take a gentle handling class from Kenny? BEFORE you started breaking things!!? Why you couldn't leave the loader up and over the tailgate, or front end? Easy enough to make a cylinder support. It was, for most of the video, a pucker tense episode!! Congrats on saving the big money a big helicopter would've cost to haul it in! What? Lowboy? Rented equipment trailer? No! They don't do that kind of thing in Minnesota! What? Oh!! Well, north of Chicago anyway! The local Amish would've just had one of their boys drive it to the dealer, unless it was more than 49 miles! Actually, in an 8 hr trip, they can cover a lot more distance than that! Tires last longer than I ever figured they would!! - You're way too modest about your mechanical skills!! You'd be a great, probably tenured, teacher at the University of Science, Tractor Loader Handle Dept.!! Maybe even at the Rube Goldberg Technical Institute!! I'm sure Tony's proud of you! As are we all!! - One other thing I just thot of: leave the bucket on, and the tailgate secured open. Might work!! Oh yeah! Duct tape works better than electrical tape almost every time, for almost every thing!! With that tidbit, you could easily get a Ph.D., just like mine! (It stands for Piled Higher and Deeper.... It happens!!)
Thanks for watching, again! The DOT does not approve of hang over equipment.
@@InTheWoodyard True, but you're good if no more than 2 feet past the taillights. Or you can flag the longer overhang. The bucket wouldn't be much of a protuberance!! That's for going to a job, not for going to the Kioti Emergency Room!! Remem, I've got a hard earned, advanced degree!!
Levers just can't stand the pressure of log chunking muscles!
HA! MAYBE SO!
NO NEED BIGER THEN THAT BIG ONE AND A BANK LOAD TO DO TANK FILL UPS LOL
Thanks for watching!
wow you broke it wow cos tlots of cash might fit but is it might be to heavy
It was covered.
Trade yours in or sell it an get the newer one
some day I might do that!
Tony’s trailer is nice....😀
Yes it is broken....
You wouldn’t be able to get a covered cockpit on the trailer.
Edit. Physically yes but not open door
The tractor would go on the trailer, but you couldn't open the door XD
Good point!
Good point Rick!
You broke the handle on the log splitter as well.
Perhaps you don't know your own strength/
on reinforcing the lever would a piece of tube with an inside diameter to fit nicely on the lever that is then cut lengthways in half you could then glue it on with some epoxy glue.
Don't bump it getting on or off
Most people with Ultras have had to replace the handle. There are other channels (not nearly as good as this) that had to replace it as well. With less production than Chris.
That would probably work well too! Thanks for the idea!
My fix has been great so far, it was about $1.79!
Every tractor has a weak part
Yup, on mine it is usually in the seat.
No law saws you can't buy a 2nd tractor 🤣 Buy the bigger one to leave grapple on all the time 😀
The law at my house would disagree...my wife! HA! I do like your idea!
It seems that every time I leave a comment that they are taken down,😮🤬 maybe because of my comments. Toyota Tundra 2015, We know that the minimum tongue weight will be 720 pounds. We also know that the truck maxes out at 9,800 pounds gross trailer weight. So the feasible range of the tongue weight is 720 to 980 pounds (assuming the truck tongue weight capacity is 10 percent of the gross trailer weight capacity).
Yup, that sounds about right.
@@InTheWoodyard Can't Handle the TRUTH. Just trying to Help. Don't Like The Truth, just Delete it !
maby you should be more carefull can cost lots of hard earned cash to get fixed if yout of waranty
Yup, it got fixed in warranty.
2 things we all know about Chris, 1 he does not levers cause he breaks them, 2 we all think that he really likes Tony just a little to much lol.
Ha! Maybe so, and Tony is a great guy, just don't tell him I said so!
Blame your muscles built up from decades of making firewood as the cause of the loader lever breaking. Using the processor will weaken those muscles and give the loader lever a fighting chance.
Ha! maybe so!
You sure do like breaking levers,like your splitter to,😁....
Yes I do!