The Boston Celtics and Denver Nuggets Are A Notch Above the Rest | OM3 THINGS
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- It’s Monday so we’re back with another episode of The Old Man and the Three Things. This week, JJ is joined by Nekias Duncan and Steve Jones Jr. of ‘The Dunker Spot’ to discuss how the Denver Nuggets and Nikola Jokic look like the championship caliber versions of themselves again, how the Jayson Tatum, Jrue Holiday, Kristaps Porzingis, Derrick White, and the Boston Celtics are separating themselves as the best team in the league, and what the post-trade deadlines versions of the Toronto Raptors and Atlanta Hawks look like for the rest of the season.
Subscribe to The Old Man and The Three podcast w/ JJ Redick (ESPN / First Take) and Tommy Alter CZcams channel today for more NBA analysis, player interviews and highlights. - Sport
0:00 : Intro
0:46 : Denver Nuggets
13:45 : Sacramento Kings / 🦊
14:20 : Western Confrence
16:29 : Boston Celtics ☘️
30:05 : Toronto Raptors 🦖 + Atlanta Hawks 🐥
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Doing the Lord's work. Thank you
Atlanta Hawks as an Easter chicken 👍
Legend
You the real MVP
This show is so much better than ESPN’s NBA shows.
ESPN is complete and total trash. Not necessarily the people, the shows…
This show is so much better than almost anything. There are a few podcasts that really get into the weeds like this one, but not many.
Too bad jj is also an espn sell out
Not that difficult, ESPN is so bad that your sentence is not even a compliment
Or better than TNT where Shaq is hating on Celtics and calls KP an "other"
When Jokic gets it in the low post & the low defender comes to double at all it’s crazy how quickly Jokic hits Gordon at the rim. And if no double comes it’s an automatic bucket.
It doesn't feel fair to have Jokic in the post.
Dude it's almost automatic. Pus his bball IQ seems light years ahead of anyone else on the court, it's like the game is moving in slow motion for Jok. He is the Anomaly.
Jokic is shooting 59% on floaters. And he takes a ton of them. He's arguably the most accurate shooter from 6-12 feet we've ever seen. It's absurd.
As a celtics fan, its going to be crazy.
@@rome8180.
I love when the pod talks about the lesser talk about teams, feels like a REAL basketball discussion
That’s why I like this podcast
The fact that it took jokic 9 seasons to get more triple doubles than lebron has in 21 is so insane
Add in 50 or so Sombor Doubles he has in regular season.
That's when you are only 1 assist/pts/rebound away from a triple double.
Truly no fu**s given by the man.
Dude is a genuine beast
After Westbrook scored Tripple double season for three consecutive years, these days magnitude of tripple double is not same anymore.
Bc Jokic loves to INVITE double team which is inane bc hes a threat being doubled
@@swarajthapa5798 womp womp
JJ, thank you for providing this platform to Nekias and Steve. I appreciate that y’all talk about ALL of the teams in the league, including the Raptors and Hawks.
Steve's breakdown of Denver's evolving offense 2:36 was excellent 👏. Love we get to see/hear this level of analysis.
so nice to see someone defend Jokic's defense for once, one of the best defenders in the league and most fans think he's a scrub.
Who is he
my thing with jokic as a denver fan that catches me by surprise is how he goes from shooting into a pass
You're not alone. Just watch any team trying to guard him. They still don;t know what he is going to do and they're NBA players.
denver vs boston 7 game series gonna feed families
Tatum will choke
I’m not betting against Jokic in a game 7. He’s too superior
Boston won’t get there
@jason5265 Cope.
Put money on it big guy@@jason5265
Three all-defensive teams is a must
2n, 3rd and 4th that idea.
Fully prepared for a Celtics Nuggets nba finals
7 games of Celtics’ defence vs Nuggets’ offence would be peak basketball
@@Tomtainius Epic series, I'd pick Denver just because of Joker.
might as well just give the nuggets a ring then, the celtics are trash. the western playoffs will be more exciting.
Nuggets beat no 50 win teams last playoffs
@@xavierb9061 perks of handling ya business during the regular season
The celtics really struggled against zone’s last year (and for most of the brown and Tatum era) so they brought in 2 absolute zone killers in KP and Holiday
Exactly bingo . And that makes the Celtics dangerous
Derrick White has taken a leap too
Real basketball fans love to watch Denver
So nice to see Daniel Cormier on the show again 🙏 🙏
😂😂😂
hey jj i am only getting into playing watching and listening basketball in my 30s so im basketball illiterate BUT i'd love to learn. Could you guys do a pod where you explain the basketball jargon to bring the rest of the audience up to speed? I'd love to listen to this pod understanding all the strategy talk.
Much love from australia
I would not be suprised if every series in the West go to 6 or 7 series. Thats crazy and I would love it. Just hope for healthy postseason for everyone and it will be fire 🔥
Jrue Holiday forever 💫
Jrue blocked a shot on the baseline on a big, walked over to D. White said "yeah I`m becoming like you". Best defense back court in the NBA, and pretty good on Offense too! Watched it on an interview with TV Abbey
Congrats on 1 mil guys!
I love them using Gordon as a screener. Teams will leave or sag off Gordon on the perimeter, but if Murray is going around a Gordon screen, Gordon's defender now has to make a tough decision. Because the next thing Gordon is going to do is dive to the rim
Why do you forget to praise - Elite Sorer - MPJ is a player who is always neat, has the best haircut, a good manager, he has never sweated, he doesn't eat meat and has no strength - MPJ walks slowly around the field - he does it like an old gentleman. His shooting percentages for 2 and 3 points are historic - you can see for yourself and watch his last game. The elite scorer entered history in terms of percentages.
Gde se gasiš jebo te patak? 😅@@dragicaandrejevic2060
I listen to this show and the Dunker Spot every day when I'm walking my dog. Love the insight!
Celtics have very strong chemistry.
I love these guys, great addition to the “Ol’ man and the three”!!
Great pod guys always amazing listening to such basketball minds ❤
Hey guys great show. Quick question - can you incorporate game film in your breakdowns? Would love to hear this and be able to visually see it as well.
Oh I know that bad defensive possession you're talking about, Lakers vs Suns. Miscommunication led to overhelping on KD in the post which led to the Grayson Allen 3. RJ was saying the same thing.
Congrats on 1Mil JJ!
If y’all can add visuals while describing the plays y’all talk about would be AMAZING! Podcast(s) are still great af tho! Love learning and hearing about the game
What is not often talked about is how well coached the Nuggets are. between Malone and Jokic
they are just to damned smart. Jokic has moves he hasn't even shown people yet. Jokic is a
force of nature minus the hopps. Murray when healthy is unstoppable. it is their time.
Adam Mares broke a story in training camp about a Serbian coach (their pop) who tells the story how Jokic watched videos of his coaching seminars and then contacted him with a list of questions about the topics he covered. As well, Jokic gave the coach a series of variations on existing plays for the coaches own club. The coach says he saw last season a few twists him and Jokic talked about in the Denver offense and he used Jokić's variations on his own team.
It seems that's what Jokic does in the summer as he confirmed the story when asked about it and named the NBA and euro coaches he listened the past summer.
It says a lot about you star player who supposedly doesnt like basketball that he does that and I can totally see Malone trust Jokic to try new things.
The bond between Malone is Jokic is very strongboth emotionally & intellectually... Malone saw something only Tim Connelly did and gave Jokic the keys to the car and trusted him and Jokic has give back in kind.
I can see them retiring together.
This is excellent analysis. No one does this . Real hoopers love this.
The word you wanted was hyperbolic 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
My boy JJ got that good ol duke education 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
One thing I love about the league. You already see how other players see Jokic's effect on the team and have emulated portions of his game....and the game continues to evolve.
I will be verrrrry surprised to not see nuggets taking the champ. They are a completely different team when seeding matters, different team between 1st and 2nd half when down, they beat the right teams. It seems like they are on autopilot and exciting to see them turn it on for the playoffs.
Celtics have a better roster and a higher ceiling they just havent done it yet
Both of your takes are valid, just means Celtics nuggets finals will be awesome.
I think its the Celtics year if they are healthy, every game I've watched they are consistently so good defensively and they may have the best offensive process in the NBA.
The Nuggets might not even make the Finals bruh. Everybody just assumes they’re going to romp and come out of the West I wouldn’t bet on that…
@@RittenhousesRiflethey’re easily the best team. Not guaranteed but they should be the favorites
You brought up the Jrue on Embiid minutes. Just wanted to highlight that Joe got that from Brad and Marcus.
Brad played Marcus on both Embiid and Giannis a bunch when the Celtics didn’t have Horford for a couple of years and they were able to transition pretty seamlessly into doing it with Jrue this year, who on the court is probably just a better Marcus smart
That’s why GM Brad is THAT dude… especially w/ the financial restraints.
A large part of the Nuggets defense is great coaching. They’re prepared. On the offensive side, they’re the smartest team in the association, with Murray joining Joker as one of the ten best passers in the NBA. If they’re healthy, they repeat.
My finals take the beginning of the year was Nuggets Vs. Celtics. I got Nuggets in 6 games. Back to back Champs.
nuggets in 5
The only problem is that everyone and their mothers has money 💰 on this match up!! The house ain’t about to give money away when the West is way way more competitive than last year!!
Nuggets won’t even make the Finals.
lol yall fools need to watch some Celtics games cause obviously yall don’t know what you saying
@@mannydaprofit2869 Celtics haters are out in full force these last few weeks. They know the Celtics are gonna win it all and are trying to cope.
Thanks for talking about Toronto
Speaking as a nuggets fan, I find it hard to disregard OKC (who has beaten nuggets 3 out of 4 this year). Shai, Chet, J-Will look like real contenders.
It's because we never saw them in the playoff.
The pressure of the playoff can make players look completely different so it's difficult to know what they will look like.
They will get exposed in the playoffs. They could lose in the first round. But yeah, their future is bright
Pure basketball. Love it
Sorta new to watching the show, who’s the guy in the bottom right?? Does he have his own show/CZcams channel, love the way he talks
Denver are the champs and in my opinion they’re the best team in the league. But I will say, OKC are tied for the 1 seed and have the West’s best net rating, are top 5 in offensive and defensive rating, have won the season series against Denver and lead the season series against the Celtics. They are young and unproven but they are a special team.
As a nuggets fan, I 100% agree. They have beaten us in close games, and they have hit many timely shots in each of the games we've played this season. They are an absolute force.
totally agree - OKC to me looks like they are a contender (as a nuggets fan). Shai, J-Will and Chet are really strong.
@jplmedley I just think, and you'd know having followed Denver's journey, that failure is a key part of the journey so I don't believe they are contenders now. I do think their journey to a title has a good chance to be shorter than a lot of teams though, given what they've shown this season as such a young team.
Why do you forget to praise - Elite Sorer - MPJ is a player who is always neat, has the best haircut, a good manager, he has never sweated, he doesn't eat meat and has no strength - MPJ walks slowly around the field - he does it like an old gentleman. His shooting percentages for 2 and 3 points are historic - you can see for yourself and watch his last game. The elite scorer entered history in terms of percentages.
@@dragicaandrejevic2060aren't you the person who has a hate crush on MPJ
KCP and Gordon better be All-Defensive Team. One All-Star for the Nuggs, but they better get some accolades at the end of the season to go with their second championship.
Why do you forget to praise - Elite Sorer - MPJ is a player who is always neat, has the best haircut, a good manager, he has never sweated, he doesn't eat meat and has no strength - MPJ walks slowly around the field - he does it like an old gentleman. His shooting percentages for 2 and 3 points are historic - you can see for yourself and watch his last game. The elite scorer entered history in terms of percentages.
@@dragicaandrejevic2060 I like MPJ, when he makes his shots and doesn’t lag on D. When he’s hot, he’s great, but, when not, he’s a liability.
JJ ! Get these guys some mics and some help on the sound recording. Just some feedback xx
Hey can we give these other 2 podcasters love for their amazing analysis and post their CZcams channels?!
People forget nuggets were on a bad losing streak going into the post season although they managed to maintain the number 1 spot. People kept saying they'd lose because of this and then ended up dominating everyone in the post season. That's probably what they're doing again. Just chilling until the post season until upping their game.
elite P&R defender JJ
7:16 - I like how JJ backs off calling out the coach by name. I take it the post-Doc week has been a drain to hear about.
NIKOLA JOKIC showcased his greatness by dominating the DUBS and is currently the NBA'S BEST PLAYER. JOKIC and MURRAY are the NBA'S BEST DUO and spearheaded the NUGGETS OFFENSIVE ATTACK with SOLID TEAM DEFENSE.
SPOILER ALERT: DENVER NUGGETS will repeat as NBA WORLD CHAMPIONS 🏆🏆. NIKOLA JOKIC will win the REGULAR SEASON MVP and FINALS MVP 🏆🏆
Jokic by far the best player itl rn. Murray not that great tho. Hella inconsistent rn, hope he can deliver his usual playoff-performance
These 3 know ball
Imagine talking about basketball plays, screens, coverage instead of drama or awards races. Hell even the comments speak that language too. Thoroughly entertaining.
Cavs are playing GREAT basketball right now. Would love more stuff about them ❤❤❤
They put iris on rigid for a reason. Cuz of the switch and easier to help down low cuz the paint gets jammed
Love the Raptors segment, shout out you man for covering a team that’s not in the playoffs
Here for the Raptors talk.
I think as long as Denver is healthy and Jokic is the best player it’s really tough to beat them in a playoff series but because they’re in the West it’s totally possible they could get upset and I wouldn’t be shocked. I don’t have the same sense with the Celtics if they don’t at least make the finals they have massively underachieved and the conversations will be super uncomfortable. Like how many 60 win teams don’t win an NBA championship?
6 out 20 teams who won 65 games didnt reach the finals, 14 won
Quite a few 60 win teams don't end up winning. The Suns won 64 games 2 years ago and looked just as dominant then got sonned by Luka in the 2nd round.
Why do you forget to praise - Elite Sorer - MPJ is a player who is always neat, has the best haircut, a good manager, he has never sweated, he doesn't eat meat and has no strength - MPJ walks slowly around the field - he does it like an old gentleman. His shooting percentages for 2 and 3 points are historic - you can see for yourself and watch his last game. The elite scorer entered history in terms of percentages.
Why do you forget to praise - Elite Sorer - MPJ is a player who is always neat, has the best haircut, a good manager, he has never sweated, he doesn't eat meat and has no strength - MPJ walks slowly around the field - he does it like an old gentleman. His shooting percentages for 2 and 3 points are historic - you can see for yourself and watch his last game. The elite scorer entered history in terms of percentages.
Modelo advert goes hard…also great bball talk…we still calling it bball?
Jayson Tatum All-Defensive team is what should actually be getting pushed
Love the media talking nuggets ball more this season
As a Timberwolves fan I agree. At this point in time anyways. As KG said though, we coming
Take a shot every time JJ brings up Derrick White
JJ do a top 10 coaches in the league right now
“But the Celtics haven’t won’t anything” lmfao those narratives when talking about this team make me laugh lol
Celtics sh0uld worry about getting through the heat before taking fake victory laps.
@@amacdonald42 okay, from that perspective then the heat have to worry about making the playoffs first.
@@JKeemTV you think the heat won't make the playoffs? What I said and what you said aren't comparable. League is about matchups and Boston, for whatever reason, can't shake Miami.
@@amacdonald42 Miami can’t match up with Boston this year. Stop looking at previous years this is a different team and they easily will take Miami out in 5 games max.
@@ryanb9305 Don’t be so confident about that, the gap in coaching ability between Spo & Maz is significantly big, and Miami got Jaquez who’s better than Strus & Vincent combined plus got an athletic guard in Rozier to replace old man Lowry. They matchup well with Boston, I’d be surprised if Boston cakewalks.
jj is SPOT ON w the 2 on the ball thing. actually its two on 1 guy...bc steph doesnt even need the ball to draw two crazy
this is why i think jokic is slightly overrated!!
when joker doesnt have a physical advantage he doesnt draw 2 was well as a lot of guys. kyrie for instance has the ball handling and shotmaking to draw two even when his defender has the advantage physically. older kobe used his footwrk and shotmaking despite declining physically. like i mentioned b4 stephs motor and shotmaking draw 2 when he doesnt have the ball and id say hes at a physical disadvantage more often than not. giannis literally ALWAYS has a physical advantage. embiid too. i think luka has a physical advantage on offense more often than jokic and his a tougher shot maker than jokic etc...
n this is to say nothing of the defensive side of the ball where joker is usually at a disadvatge physically.
i think jokic makes up for all this by being the best decision maker in basketball period. he's one with their system and is the best reading defenses. he knows how to use his teammates to create advantages for himself or others in their teams actions. hes a step a head of every1 at all times - on both sides of the ball. even if his body cant always keep up on d (pause), he's rotating early or has his hands in passing lanes bc he anticipates where the ball needs to go to in order to compromise the defense further.
that being said i value drawing 2 + the defensive end enough to put giannis above jokic in my rankings. luka is a more impactful offensive player than jokic imo but his speed makes him too much of a liabily defensively to put over jokic. steph n sga's size and relative deficiencies playmaking hurt them but they are better iso guys imo. tatum is the best combo of physical tools n offensive n defensive skillset, but hes not THE BEST at any one thing in the league outside of his versatility. embiid is the best player in the league when hes healthy n in shape but his injury and playoff history hold him back...
all that to say my rankings rn are: Giannis, Jokic, Embiid, Steph, Tatum, SGA, Luka
JJ be quaffed out this ep
Is that supposed to mean he's been drinking or do you really mean "coiffed". "Quaff" is to drink.
@@riffsthatkill2180 google this question “what is a quaff of hair?”
@@riffsthatkill2180he talkin bout his hair
A facepalm for what you're about to say yourself is next level! [29:15] 😀😀😀
Raptors, baby!
Nuggets are built for the playoffs, they just have to survive the regular season.
Anyone else get the feeling JJ regrets not playing for a year with Jokic? Because as a shooter JJ has to drool when he sees those buttery dimes from Jokic to wide open shooters.
next hoops tank pitch: all star game: have it be a 30 person (15 east and west) march madness style tourny (seeds based on votes) with no dribble limit and games to 7 with a 14 second shot clock - final game is to 11 maybe best 2 out of 3 - my request for you is for 1 million dollars (as prize money) for a 25 percent stake as well as sponsorship (the 1v1 contest presented by OM3)
Nuggets were designed to beat the Warriors back in their prime. Now they finally get to do it a few years later thanks to Murray returning healthy, and the Warriors starting to age doesn’t hurt either. Scary to think what could have been, if Murray didn’t go down. Denver could honestly three peat right now and it wouldn’t surprise me at all.
13:23 Cam and Mase would have been all over this one lol
Clips vs nuggets Celtics vs Cavs please for the final matchups
I’m a simple guy, I see the red outlines on the text, I scroll away 😂
In team basketball team defence is more important than individual one.Jokic does his defence in court mapping and reading ofence not by pure athleticism
My Celtics will win it all, we're not the same team as the last few years.
JJ's like the Lake Wobegon of defensive players: above average.
I don't know how anyone gets by Denver to get to the finals but if they do it, a Dallas / Boston matchup would be the most entertaining series in a decade. Kyrie and Luca versus Tatum and Holiday? Dalla's to explosive centers against porzingis? They might not pose the greatest challenge to Boston but the games would be outrageously exciting and fun!
"Are there any easy matchups for any Western Conference team in the 1st round?" I mean, if the Pelicans and Kings somehow met in the 1st round there is. The Kings have absolutely no answer for the Pelicans size. And Herb Jones has made Fox's life hell. But that's not a likely matchup. Would require both teams closing the season on a heater to get up to the 4 and 5 seeds.
I think the finals will be Nuggets vs Celtics.
Celtics's roster is the best on the NBA, but I think Mike Malone is a better coach and the nuggets have a unstoppable player on Jokic.
Of course Tatum is a great player, but he is not an unstoppable force such as the last FMVP'S (Jokic, Giannis, Curry and Lebron)
Thanks for talking about the Raptors. The Nuggets, Knicks, Lakers, Celtics and Bucks have been talked to death already. A change of pace is nice.
thanks for mentioning the lakers jj about the poorly coached team that had poor defense and the double teams at 7:20 lol 😪
Why do you forget to praise - Elite Sorer - MPJ is a player who is always neat, has the best haircut, a good manager, he has never sweated, he doesn't eat meat and has no strength - MPJ walks slowly around the field - he does it like an old gentleman. His shooting percentages for 2 and 3 points are historic - you can see for yourself and watch his last game. The elite scorer entered history in terms of percentages.
As a Bucks fan I will admit I have only watched maybe 5-10 Boston games this year. They traded away most of the players they used in the past to stop or slow down Giannis. "Big AL" is the only one on the roster that I have seen give Giannis trouble. Is AL still got enough legs? or is there some other plan I am missing because no way Porzingis is going to stop him. I am really asking. I did see some 7 footer's on the roster but I barely glanced at the names or nothing stuck out.
Raptors let's go! :D
Celtics in 6 Vs Nuggets in final 👌🏼
KCP needs way more love
How does CZcams not catch these bots
Without bots social media would feel empty and less toxic
Fr. Tired of all these 🍑 and 🍈 pfp bots pretending to be people.
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I feel like content and social media platforms need bots to help them “cook” user/engagement numbers when they do earning calls.
The cost to them: nada and they get our data🙃
Which one are bots?
Nekias!
All I have to say is that Joker is going to leave a bigger impact on this era than LeBron did on the last 15 years
I think any western conference team would be pretty happy to play the mavericks in the playoffs.
The term JJ was looking for is hyperbolic.
For me this fact is what’s going to give them issues in the finals. They are going to have to find doubles on almost every Western Matchup: Denver, Dallas, Phoenix, Minnesota.
Let’s be honest aside from Embiid who are the Celtics worried about on Offense? Jalen? (no knock on Brunson, but come on now. He’s out there on his own.) Jimmy? Donovan? I mean as per usual the Eastern Conference has 1, maybe 2 realistic champion contenders?
21:51
The "poorly coached team" JJ clandestinely alluded to was the Lakers. And the wide open shooter was (fellow Dukie) Grayson Allen. I can see why JJ didn't want to call out the Lakers directly to avoid controversy, but he left too many clues for us sleuths!
Find you someone that looks at you the way Steve looks when people are talking about the Nuggets.
this game was tough for sixers fans. Celts only hit 5 three-pointers and still won by like 18pts. This is a team that leads the league in 3pt attempts per game. Normally, they lose this game.
Im fairly certain the thunder have beaten both of these teams recently. They have beaten Denver three times….
Toronto Raptor talk?
Am I dreaming?
16:36 boston review start
Hey JJ - can you address how a young team like the Pistons get routinely screwed by the refs - game after game after game - but nobody seems to notice or care expect our fans. Finally MONTY stepped up and said something publicly yesterday after the Knick's game - but that's the first time he's done so. How do we deal with this? Should Monty make it a point to get tossed out on techs for the next couple of games in a row to get the official's and the league's attention? Inquiring minds want to know??
What was Denver’s record against the thunder? They play Minnesota 3 times down the stretch should tell the tale…
its more likely that neither team makes it, too many teams got potential
Didn't they say this about the Celtics last year?