Here's Why Hyundai's N Division Is Underrated - 2022 Elantra N Review
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- čas přidán 3. 02. 2022
- It's not often that manufacturers come out with a new brand entirely. And while Hyundai's N division has been around for a couple years now, they're finally starting to crank out more products. I was very keen to see what this new Elantra N was all about, especially with the optiononal DCT transmission. Come along for this episode where we take a deep dive and see just how good this forgotten performance brand really is..
#hyundai #elantran #nperformance - Auta a dopravní prostředky
I got the HP and Torque numbers right at the beginning of the video and then flubbed them during the drive. Obviously I meant 276/289 respectively. My bad.
Thanks for putting out an unbiased review, unlike that trash "review" from Doug Demeuro which is basically a marketing campaign for Subaru WRX. I own a GT350 and bought an Elantra N for my daily. It is a fantastic little car and I enjoy driving it as much as my Shelby.
Thanks for watching!
I found the Demuro review so strange....yes, the WRX comparison was sooooo belabored as to be a total distraction, plus the drive segment was literally....nothing. I have found his detailed "quirks and features" reviews enjoyable over the years but this one was strangely flat and almost weirdly dismissive of the car--- as well as being completely incongruent with now a ton of other drive impressions by other folks.
Lmao totally agree with how horrible Doug’s review was
give us a video comparison on how you truly feel the differences between a 35k car and a 55k
How much did you pay for the Elantra N? If you don't mind answering
Eager potential N owner, I get so excited to see any new upload about the N cars. I especially love this Elantra N - the look is sharp, especially in the Grey or Sonic blue (imo) and to get a stock package this sporty at the mid to low 30’s - Hyundai is pushing the bar for sure!
I want one so bad too! Haha
@@georgevigil7001 I’m kind of glad I haven’t pulled the trigger like I wanted too last year - with the 21’ veloster n - dealer markups and lack of stockpile. And now we have two new N’s to choose from!
@@georgevigil7001 wait for the GR Corolla before pulling the trigger.
@@laytoncampbell5484 Yeah they wanted to hit me with a $5K markup. I passed. I refuse to pay any stealer markups. I was going to buy the Focus RS but it had a markup, then I went to buy the CTR and it had a markup. Passed on both because I'm not giving greedy dealers my money.
@@lukemothug3744 Not in a rush so I will probably see what Toyota has to offer. Really right now Hyundai has the best bang for my buck though.
Sweet review 😎 As a side note:
“Hyundai’s ‘N’ represents two important elements. First, the Namyang district in South Korea, the birthplace of the N brand and location of Hyundai’s Global R&D Center. Second, the Nürburgring racetrack in Germany, which is home to Hyundai’s Technical Center which is used to test the N vehicles. Finally, the ‘N’ logo itself is also a representation of a classic chicane or tight serpentine turn in the road."
You're correct. This was just for fun :)
Namyang is a place Hyundai made up lol. It’s not a “real” place but it is in Hyundai’s world.
@@canadianaviator Huh? It’s the name of their R+D center in Korea. Not sure what you mean by not a "real" place?
@@vjdfl5 Hyundai named their center as Namyang. Before Hyundai, there wasn’t a place named Namyang in Korea not now it exists.
@@canadianaviator Yes… what’s the point you’re trying to make though? They made N stand for Namyang because that’s their R+D center… where their N division is headquartered. Most buildings/centers don't have names before they’re built… kinda how it works
Great review!
Just an FYI, the rear bracing does actually unbolt pretty easily. So you'll lose the added rigidity for cornering, but if you're planning a trip to IKEA and need that extra space for their extra long packaging, that bracing does come out so you can fit larger items inside. Then you can just rebolt it back in once you're done.
THANKS
Such an accurately honest video. Really hard to find someone on CZcams who knows what they're talking about AND isn't afraid to say it. Subscribed.
Thank you!
Thank you for the thorough, enjoyable review-- especially just the great sense of enjoyment from a simple, fast, canyon drive. Since the DCT is obviously such a good one, I agonized over the choice but have a 6 sp Performance Blue ordered and can't wait!
Excellent choice and glad you enjoyed! You're going to love this car
Sick! The 6sp seems so satisfying with those poppy downshifts!
that clip at the end of you chasing the gt4 is it, im buying one as soon as spring comes around! thanks for the review
Thank you for publishing an unbiased review of this car. I'm now a buyer.
Glad you enjoyed!
Great review, probably the best one yet!
Thanks for bike testing this car. I've been wondering having seen the cross brace which is admittedly dope.
I heard from other reviews that you can take off the braces
Great review 👍 I been waiting for a good review like yours. I ordered a Performance Blue DCT
Love your reviews. Also nice Santa Cruz I really find that test really helpful. I haven’t tried to fit my Commencal Meta TR in the back of my Elantra N yet, Nice to know I have the option.
Thanks Robert! Glad you find it helpful.
Bro yeah Fr the MTB test is super helpful as I have a Trek Fuel EX5
Oh wow! I thoroughly enjoyed your brilliant drive through the hills😁😁😁
i road bike a lot and was on the fence about this car as a daily. your review/bike test cemented my decision. I am going to get one of these. ty
Hey, great review :)
FYI the rear view mirror actually has a hinge that you can use to move it up more for track driving or more visibility, it’s still is functional just physically higher. “Easter egg :D “
I love the bike test. Feels like the signature of your review style. Helps me picture the storage size quirks better than luggage or boxes
Great review!
Thank you!
I am very interested in this car, having read and seen multiple reviews and am considering it when I replace my Giulia. The only thing that might hold me back is the ride. Your review was comprehensive and I appreciate your use of language and objectivity.
Thanks for the kind words Don! It's a great choice if you go that route. Enjoy!
Good luck trying to get one. It’s impossible
@@devn3813 i own one because i got lucky. Yea i agree with u ,its impossible. Im the only person that owns one in my city and in other cities nearby i guess
@@litdoe7021 that’s good that you were able to get one. I put a deposit for an allocation request yesterday but they probably still won’t get one.
@@devn3813 put pressure on them
Great review and love the bike test. Important for me ;)
Good review. I own a dct version in intense blue with 2,000 miles already. Its an awesome car that has a lot of pros and few cons. Also its good in mpg if u drive it on eco or normal . I have driven doing doordash and uber eats with it and i get 31mpg on avg around my city. If u drive it in custom or N mode u will see the mpg drop to around 21-24 mpg depending on how u drive it and if u use the mpg button.also after u park the car the fan stays on for a few seconds
The fan thing is quite weird! Even not after driving that hard I noticed it running the fan for 30 seconds or so after a drive.
@@EatSleepDrive maybe its setup that way to prevent overheating
how do you find the ride quality?
@@HarryTwatter it feels sporty and stiff specially if u drive over a road inperfection or bumps. If u r driving on highway or avenue road its OK. The Car has pros and cons...I suggest u test drive it first before ordering one
holy moly that road is beautiful
what a great stretch of road. Nice review! New SUB.
Love the bike fitting test!!!
Glad you liked it!
Great review, thank you!!
Glad you enjoyed
I'm a bit of an old school track dog. Rear wheel drive and a manual or you suck...... Here I am with my 2022 Elantra N and with front wheel drive and DCT. I absolutely love it! Old dogs can learn new tricks.....
Fine choice, enjoy!
I want one now! I thought i wanted a WRX, but the value just isn't there for me since we know the pricing. This seems like so much fun.
If you don't need AWD, and I would argue most people don't, it's a great option.
My thoughts are similar. I just cannot handle the looks of this car but respect and appreciate the drive experience.
Hyundai/Kia/Genesis are such incredible vehicles when you factor in value, reliability, build quality, warranty and some really great styling on most of their vehicles. I DO realize that this is a driver’s performance car but because it’s a sedan there has to be some expectation of putting passenger’s in the back, and that’s where it falls short. There are no split seats, no armrest, no vents, no USB ports, no pockets, no phone holders. Just a seat. It’s somewhat embarrassing.
It's one of the small complaints I have about the car but it wasn't a deal breaker for me in the end.
Rear air vents in Australia. Stop whinging.
Sandrock05 the vast vast majority of people do not really put people in the back often I would think
Definitely my next car.
Yea, I had a mate from work who said it looked weird like a "spaceship". My response was obviously "isn't that cool though" lol. I do quite the like interior and exterior when compared to the i30N - the 2 cars I'm considering.
Thanks for the bike test.
You bet
Okay... 100% the mountain bike test SOLD ME on this car now!
I have some buyer's remorse in buying the 2022 BRZ instead, but only for the idea of long road trips with my wife. I love the BRZ but my better half won't entertain it for a 2,000 mile drive. Bonus material of you hunting down the Porsche was a nice add!
Look forward to your review of the Kona N
Me too!
Great review video! I'm currently in a 2020 Veloster N manual and I'm working on getting into a 2022 Elantra N DCT in Cyber Gray, just like in this video. I think the car looks best in this color and other than the controversial front end, the rest of the car is a step up from my Veloster N.
I own an intense blue with a dct on it and it looks better in person. The red trim matches very well with color and also the black front grill blends well since some people says it looks like it was involved in an accident and bumper is waiting to be painted
I wanted the cyber gray since gray its my favorite color in cars. but the hyundai dealer salesman called me to offer me the intense blue that someone ordered but didnt agree with the numbers so i just got the blue instead and no regrets
I'm in a mk7 golf R right now and it's a 2015 so I've had it for about 7 years and time for a change. No need for AWD as I'm in Florida... And the mk8 Golf R is way too expensive. I've been looking at the Veloster N DCT or this one. I have a question for you since you've already have the Veloster N manual.
What is the main reason you're looking to switch? Is it the looks? Is it the interior? The 26 extra HP and almost 30 lbs of extra torque? Wanting the 8-speed wet clutch DCT? Or just a combination of everything I mentioned?
I know that the 2021 VN has 275 instead of 250 HP like in your 2020, and has the DCT option.
And from what I understand in terms of a driver's car and performance, they're both pretty similar, yet the Elantra N is a bit more refined when you tone down the settings.
Have you given the Elantra a test run, or are you just going to go in blind? I personally would feel much more at home in the Elantra interior than the Veloster N. Especially because the 20/20 Veloster and didn't have the 2021 Recaro style seats. However I am much prefer the looks of the Veloster N. But the interior is way too budget for me, and that's where we're sitting, and where we have all our fun so interior is really important to me. Sorry about the long post but there aren't too many people who post that have a VN and I'd love to hear your reasons for wanting to switch to a car that's very similar mechanically. Probably a lot of the stuff I mentioned. Oh yeah and have you kept it completely stock or maybe a simple jb4 power bump? That's what I think I would do for an extra 25-30 HP and TQ. Just enough to not upset the chassis or the car's natural behavior.
@@Daveyboy_GolfR My 2020 had the performance package, so it did have 275 hp. And I agree with you that I actually prefer the exterior looks of the Veloster N over the Elantra N. I actually already sold my Veloster N picked up a Cyber Grey EN with DCT. I mostly wanted a bigger back seat for family expansion as well as an auto for my wife. The interior is a huge step up from the VN. The extra torque is also noticeable. And while the DCT is great, and shifts faster than I ever could, I do miss rowing my own gears a little bit. They do drive very similar but the EN just feels more solid. Maybe it’s the weight or build quality but it just feels like a more solid car. Like moving from a civic to an accord kind of solid. I hope that answers your questions. I do miss my VN, but the EN is fantastic. It had a few minor interior rattles that are driving me nuts but I’ll find them eventually.
@@robertdean387 yeah you pretty much confirmed my suspicions on the switch. I really got to see the Elantra N in person, before I knock exterior. I'm sure seeing it on my phone doesn't do it justice. I was also under impression that all veloster N 2020 and earlier had 250 HP regardless of how it was optioned and they only bumped it up to 275 in 2021. At least that's how it was in the U.S. And I know this is a silly issue but why couldn't they add the awesome red NGS button to the Veloster N for 2022 like it is on the Kona and the Elantra?? I love that NGS (or rev matching for the manuals) red button. And I really like the leather wrapped steering wheel in the Elantra! Looks nice and thick and sporty like an M car wheel. Anyway thanks for the feedback 👍
Hi. Very good video! That last section of the clip where you're driving against the Porsche, do you perhaps have a longer version? Would love to see that 🙂. Will subscribe!!
In Australia it's called the i30 sedan n. I habe that exact car on order. On road here is circa AUD 57k. We didn't get the veloster n here but got what's called in the states i30n my wife has one. If you told me 5 years ago I'd be owning 2 Hyundai's because they are a great performance car. I would of called you a liar. Great review.
Those seats are amazing looking.
They feel amazing too!
You described the exterior exactly like I did and I am trying to decide if I could live with that front end. Hyundai designers get a little carried away especially with the front end of their vehicles. There are way too many places for bug splatter to to hide and be difficult for clean up.
As far as the Si goes, Honda really screwed up with the lack of horsepower and that alone knocked it off my buy list along with it looking extremely bland.
Great review!
The GT4 twisties looked really fun!
Very much!
Great video, easily the best one I’ve seen on the Elantra and I’ve watched plenty! Regarding the visibility out of the windshield - how tall are you? I’m 6’2 and very interested in this car, wondering if it’d be an issue for me too. Once again, thanks for the review! Regards from Australia
Glad you enjoyed it! I'm 6'1, so should be similar for you.
As an Elantra N owner, I agree with every single thing this guy just said except that honestly I have never once noticed that rearview mirror blocking up my vision even one time, but now that ive seen this i probably will notice it lol
A great car is a great car no matter the brand--I have always owned "niche" cars and drive a Konaa N now and it is a fantastic vehicle.I had a stinger and loved it--actually sold it for a profit and am just as happy with the kona N.I also like to sit up higher and honestly when you put everything in sport mode it is just as capable of many sport hatches and would eat a GTI--toyota 86--BRZ--civic SI --integra a-spec in a drag race or a track.car and driver just got a 4.8 to 60 in a Kona n so a broken in elantra with DCT should be just as fast.I actually wanted to sit higher cause I do not have to worry about damaging or sciffing the front skirts or going over speed bumps sideways.
Ive been wanting this car since I first heard about it. Just waiting for it to get tracked vs a CTR just to know where it lands. N Power baby!
It's a dope car (I'm considering one) but there's no way it's close to a Type R.
@@Clinterus Probably not on a track but with the dct it will beat it in a race I'm sure :)
Amazing car and review.
I love the way this car looks
How would you compare this with the Veloster N you drove? Is it better/worse or pretty similar? Great review!
They're very similar. I think it comes down to how much room you need. Also the Elantra interior was a bit nicer.
One thing that was holding me up was the fact that I didn't think my mountain bike would fit in with the brace. 😬😂
Thanks!!
Good god then got a Kona n and a bike rack !
Really enjoy your review. I want to get the DCT version too. Now it has been called Korean PDK😂 I have a question about the NVH. When you driving on the highway, does it sound load and letting you feel tired after you leave the car? My previous 2012 civic made me have tinnitus after long time highway drive.
Nope. It's very composed on long journeys.
Fyi..the brace in the trunk unscrews! Nice review bro..this will be my next car if possible.
The brace bar in all the N's are easy to remove. It's just a few bolts.
16:18 “I have hella ugh I have quiet a few people” 🤣
did you try out the 0 to 60 timer in the N info screen....i was just checking out this N model the other day here in Canada...i think the only difference here is that we also get a heated steering wheel,,other wise pretty much the same........looking to get one.
Haha! That GT4 must've been asking "Wtf?!" every time they looked back.
😂
Great review! GR86 is also in this price point. Any preference between the two?
Coupe or Sedan. Lol.
The Elantra being able to keep pace with a $100k GT4 is nuts.
That Gt4 was going on a leisurely cruise haha, still an amazing car tho.
Personally, I think the niche this one fits in is for those of us who did the ol' street racer type Fast and Furious shit ages ago, but still want to drive a peppy car and not spend a life savings on it. I just got mine about 3 weeks ago, manual transmission and its only at 699 miles. I LOVE the car and love that it can be a bit adolescent with the exhaust pops, but doesn't stray too far into racer-ville like the Civic or Corolla.
In Australia it’s actually a lot cheaper than a golf gti. 10k plus
The driving dynamics is brought to you by Albert Biermann who was at BMW for a while as their M brains . Kia/Hyundai gave him good money to lure him over. Hopefully Hyundai has a next batter up because he’s retiring. FYI the head designer for Hyundai/ Kia was at Audi and they brought him over with Albert. Look really good at these cars a few yrs back and you can find Audi touches here and there.
Love the bicycle test. You definitely are at Jason Camissa or Carlos Lago level of quality car reviews. Take care, Homie!
Dose it come with power folding side mirrors?
These are neat hope they keeping making N products. Will you be trying to drive the Kona N?
Definitely adding it to the list after having such a positive experience with this car.
@@EatSleepDrive Nice
Nice review! How is the road/cabin noise? How is the audio system? Thanks
The audio isa Bose system and isn’t terrific and the cabin is a little loud and the plastics can make noise, but when you hear that exhaust pop and crackle, you don’t care. The car is a blast. I’ve had it over a month abs I’m still excited to go to work because I know I’ll get to drive it 50 miles.
Wind noise is low road noise is low to moderate. Stereo I thought was pretty good but nothing amazing. I would say it sounds perfectly acceptable for the price tag.
I have a 2018 Elantra sport electric blue I honestly want one of these but idk just love my electric blue.
I own a 2022 elantra N in intense blue and it looks nice. And im not a fan of blue. I got it since it was the only one.im sure u will love it 😁
Whole lotta car for the money, if you don't live in a state that sees much snow I'd take this over a wrx any day
Totally agree.
Agree on adaptive cruise. Submitted comment on Hyundai website and basically got a form letter response.
It's shocking really
@@EatSleepDrive only thing I can think of is that since it is track ready, they want to leave the grill as open as possible for cooling purposes. On our Accord the radar for ACC is right in the middle of the grill.
If this car had ACC, it would be the almost perfect daily driver/track day car combo.
you can actually unscrew the red bars in the trunk and take it off
Hyundai should reintroduce the Elantra hatch in 'N' if the rumors of the Veloster is being cancelled in the future.
Im planning to get the Elantra n very soon! urgent question though . 😩 is it really lower than the other elantra's? I do NOT wanna fear scraping the front lip on a curb!
It's a bit lower than the regular one but I had very little issues while I had the car, and my driveway is steep! Most cars I review tend to scrape, but no this one. It's pretty usable. Good luck with your purchase!
@@EatSleepDrive oh really? this is great news. thank you so much!
There are videos on how to remove the rear cross brace.
This setup is just like on the smoking Tire which I really like, and also makes me realize how stupid fast Matt Farah drives on those canyons.
I was considering the hatch, which has a simpler design, but turns out the Elantra N is based on a newer platform and is the better vehicle, I think the car is that good that I am willing to look past its looks, although it definitely has character and is unlike anything else, so it is starting to grow on me, but I'll be driving it not looking at it so that's the main thing right?
will the Elantra n ever be in europe?
Sir you don't know me at all. I most definitely want to drive it on the highway with the loud exhaust. I have a Borla on my current car. It also drones and that's not much of an issue lol
Does N line fall under The N division
That guy in the Porsche must have been surprised...by any chance did you guys have a chat afterwards ?
Nope, he pretended like it didn't happen... haha.
amazing car
Sick Santa Cruz 🤙
Don’t forget the 10 year/100,000 mile powertrain (most expensive components) warranty. Nobody does that, but HMG has since the 90’s. I truly believe HMG (Hyundai/Kia/Genesis) will replace Toyota/Lexus. It will take time, but it will happen as long as they don’t try to fix what’s not broken, which is Toyotas secret recipe for long-term success.
I really hate that we don't get this in Canada. I wish we did, it'd instantly be in a Hyundai
Also, the N models have a warranty rider which covers them on the track and for autocross. It is in my Veloster N manual.
*289lb-ft of torque
Nice comment but I guess you missed cornering performance which is known for very carving.
How would you compare this to a Mazda 3 turbo?
Haven't driven one(yet).
Uh, is there really no comments on this? The horsepower and torque figures are objectively wrong by like a factor of 100 lol.
He corrected it in the comments. What he glossed over though was the N grin shift button. It gives 10HP for a short period of time essentially bringing total HP to 286. AND, he failed to mention that the N wasn't selected because it comes after M, (he's poking fun of course), it references testing done on the car at Namyang and the Nürburgring tracks.
The N division was not named by Albeirt
N stands for Namyang and Nurburg
Great video! enjoyed. so you mentioned E 46 in the beginning and I'm now wondering does it drive or has fun factor kind of like E46? I'm curious to know because I won Veloster N DCT, and would be proud if it has similar feel like driving M series haha.
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The E46 feels quite different but mostly because it's just a totally different time period. Heck they're 20 years old at this point
N stand for Nanyang and Nurburgring. Nanyang being their R&D headquarters and Nurburgring I don’t have to explain it
Wish didn't live in Pa. Want this car a lot.
Why not?
@@Lymonade24 Because he's afraid of snow and having to pay for some snow tires. haha :)
Check engine light on these all day
to me i like the front end of this since to me looks like a lamborgini front but thinking of this one of the cars i like to own one day it's that bad compared to the pignose bmw m3 buts its my opinion
I’m between this in manual or a new Civic Si….
Good news for 2024 the front has been given a facelift; works way better IMHO
I have a 22 GTI and I'm selling it for this car. It's so much better and honestly the GTI can be more expensive depending what trim you get.
I can’t see this car as ugly but then I think the current model Honda Civic type R is beautiful. I love this N model
Some people hate it some people love it. It definitely stands out
@5:38 😍
How’s your gas mileage been realistically
~26mpg
Can’t believe it’s named N Line. Sounds similar to N53 Inline 6 Engine and M Series, Lmao
Technically this one is just the N. N-Line refers to their lesser tier model more equivalent to the Civic Si. This is closer to their Civic Type R offering, although obviously not that hardcore. But either way, I agree. I think they could have done better with the naming...
@@EatSleepDrive This car still a great all around car for the price. Great job Hyundai! Also good video! The beginning about bmw made my morning 😂
Funny, I own a Veloster N. I came from a RWD turbo and was originally not even interested in test driving it. I discovered that it was impossible to find a manual BRZ/GR86 within a full day's drive from my home. I decided to give the VN a test drive. I bought it... No car has made me smile like this one.
BTW, put your Elantra N on a dyno. That 276 claimed horsepower is way low. That engine and the Veloster N engine are NOT the same.
I know this comment is a year old. But I'm hoping you found out that they are the same. The only difference is in the turbo.
@jeremyhenry3126 The EN has a larger turbo. They are not the same and are not interchangeable without at least a tune. The EN is pushing just North of 300 Hp at the crank. A good 25+ Hp stock for stock.
@@arthurmroyce I don't understand your comment. I didn't say a thing about a tune. About not needing one. They are the EXACT same engine. Go look it up. Which yes, you need a tune but that means you can just get an EN or hybrid or GTX2867 Garret turbo. Slap any of those on. And the EN is only pushing 276, 286 with the N grin button which is pushing more boost for 30 seconds. That's it. All of the VN's even on it's tiny turbo were pushing 275. So it's only a slight difference. Not to mention nearly 100 lbs lighter in the VN manual for manual and roughly an 80lb weight difference in the VN auto vs EN auto. I am failing to understand what it is you're trying to say. It's like you came to say I'm wrong about something just to say I'm wrong. Not to mention you need more than the EN turbo and a tune. You have to get an aftermarket HPFP, and Kona N hot side charge pipe. Then you can run the EN turbo. You can't just slap the turbo on and a tune. Won't end well. The VN HPFP can't handle what the EN turbo pushes. And the VN hot side charge pipe is too small. Becomes a chokepoint.
@jeremyhenry3126 same engine but the EN has a bigger turbo. I was not clear. The ECU is different between them too. Guys on the VN forum are looking into the EN turbo. Not a 1 to 1 swap.
@@arthurmroyce Definitely not a 1 to 1 swap. But most people that have an EN disable most of what is on it. The biggest thing it comes with is that annoying octane learning. It's great if you casually drive the car and sometimes want a power boost. But not if you're trying to make any real power with the car. Can definitely swap them though and run the EN turbo on the VN if you get the hotside charge pipe and HPFP.
Looks better than the civic