The Tisas B9r Double stack 9mm. The 2011pistol anyone can afford!
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- čas přidán 5. 07. 2024
- SDS Imports once again is making big moves in the Firearms industry. With their debut of the B9R in both a 4.25" and a 5' model coming in at sub $800.00! I can tell you right now, don't let the price fool you! The B9R DS is a shooter, it will be in my opinion crowned the best entry level 2011/1911 double stack pistol of 2024. this won't be the only review of the B9R from Tisas on the channel.
I LOVE the traditional slide proportions/style.
Finally a review on the full-size/5" version of this gun! Every other review I've seen has been on the carry/4.25" version of this gun, but I want the full-size. Thank you, lol.
Best gun tuber on CZcams bar none. Excellent HONEST review.👍
Very good review. So funny how what's old is now new again and the hot ticket. I have a B45R that is excellent, so I believe in the brand.
Thanks for the review. I want a 5" 2011 as a range gun down the road to customize and this seems to be a great candidate. There are 2 2011's in my EDC rotation but I really like the idea of porting a 5". While I do not like the fact that Holosun' is a Chinese product, they do make solid optics.
I’m picking mine up today. Crossing my figures I’m new to guns so it’s going to be great for me lol.
I have seen these for as low as the 620's as of April 11th 2024 😯 Very Very tempting at that price.
Thanks for this review, u just cost me $800. I'll be calling next week for a holster!
I've been waiting for the Tisas DS's. I have a Platypus, love it. Snagged a Prodigy 4.25 for close to $1100 since I wanted one and well, I got it. Then the Tisas came out, wanted the carry, no one had one in stock, got the 5" and paid $750 because I was weak. Then I found the Carry for close to $600 in stock and ordered it and had it the next week so....yeah. Still want the Mac 9 too but I can wait since I have 4 DS 1911's now. Have to say, I'm a fan. Loved my Stingray 9mm, sold it to fund the first DS9, and my buddy's wife commandeered it LOL Poor guy...he's the one who got me into 1911s. Either way, good review. Haven't had a chance to shoot mine yet, with work being crazy, but soon I hope. Tisas makes great guns, including the PX-9 (I have one, it's great). Keep it up!
Where did you find the carry for close to 600? I’m currently price shopping online
@@asphaltannihilator157 g4gguns. I've ordered my Prodigy and my Carry DS from them. Great prices and quick shipping. Considering getting another Walther PDP and they'll be my go to since they have the best price on them also.
I have the 4.25, it has been a blast to shoot and I have had 0 issues through 450fmj and 60 sig hollow points. Flawless with both their mags and Springfield 20rnd mags. The only down side is having to use the tlr7 or tlr7sub. I went with the sub for more options for rail location, the tlr7 will only fit with a single key it comes with and the paddles are kind of in the trigger for my preference. Fully kitted out with streamlight and holosun I paid less than a Prodigy bone stock🤷
Now add an island compensator for an extra $400 and you have yourself a killer 2011
I think you need to do a some research island comps are not really done on lower budget pistols. And when they are on higher end guns they are built with them from the start
@@rdrgear DR920p. Not expensive, has island comp.
I like the silver barrel
Do you think Dual Hammer can cut for an rmr plate over the existing k footprint? Saw that other video you had done by them.
Maybe email them
Great video also!
It’s so plain I love it
I've started using smaller red dots and honesty I haven't missed the bigger window at all. I have a small one on my Glock 40 other than looking almost hilarious why add more weight to an already big gun.
This gun is the real deal
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very nice grouping's...
I'm curious if that optic cut can be converted into the nighthawk IOS, chambers RDSM, or agency arms AOS 🤔
Doubtful. It would probably cost as much as the gun. This optic works very well of you are truly shooting target focused. I get the bigger optic want. But if that’s goal get a pistol that supports it out the gate.
This might make people butt mad but I don't care, the EPS mrs and EPS Carry mrs are some of the best pistol dots on the market right now and they have no problem hanging with the big dogs. I actually prefer my full size EPS over my RCR, the glass has less distortion and the dot is more crisp. I do think the RCR feels more durable, but the Holosun is also a very durable sight so idk. I have never had any issues with any of Holosun's products, but I can't say the same for Steiner and Aimpoint. I did not like my ACRO and it would fogg up on the inside. That's just my 2 cents on the matter. My USPSA and IDPA setup both have holosun dots on them as well as a few of my favorite carry options. My RCR lives on my platypus but thats just for the drippyness lol. In short the EPS fucks with or without your permission.
I don't care, spend your money on what you like, but the Holosun registration website is poorly translated and looks like a phishing website. Gave me the heebie jeebies registering my dot 😂
I bought both a Base C2 Staccato and P., both for $2000 each.
I heard you mention the axg legion. Is that the 365 or 320? If the 365, how do you like it? Is the 365 legion better then the xmacro in your opinion?
I honestly don’t remember which sig I was referencing. But my answer would be feel with the P365. I don’t think I can say one I
Is better, the AXG just feel better in my hand. I feel it’s due to the wider grip than the Xmacro
@@rdrgear I have the xmacro and love it. I know they had just come out with the axg 365 about 2 months ago.. I purchased a p320 axg legion last yr and love it as well.. was curious as to the 365 axg versus the 365 xmacro. If there is difference in recoil and feel between the two.
@@jefferypeterson2119 I feel I have better recoil with the AXG. But I contribute that to the additional weight of the frame. And it being a bit wider. I feel I have better control of the pistol. If that makes sense. 🤙
@@rdrgear cool. Defintely. Thank you
I am considering picking one of these up for an EDC and 2 questions I have coming from a G43X is how comfortable is it for carry considering the weight difference between a full polymer frame, and where can you find IWB holsters' for these? Do they share a holster size with other platforms of 1911 models?
No one can answer that. Comfort is 100% subjective to you. Carrying a full size gun. 1 it conceals better. But it’s heavier. I think your first question is why do you want to go to a full-size pistol over they you have currently.
Now if you only own a 43x Absolutely get a full-size pistol. You should have a training gun and a carry gun. And always spend time on both with you shoot at the range or in a class.
Jeff
Yes on the holsters for railed 1911 holsters
A 43x to this? Is he joking?
@@HWG-wm8ld Generally you acquire more guns by purchasing more guns.
@@rdrgear Thank you for your response, and I’m having to purchase a new firearm seeing as I no longer have the Glock.
The design is kinda plain looking, but I like it. Tisas makes some great guns for less, so this is definitely on my list.
I have the 4.25 variant, I am a little disappointed about the different size pic rail for lights. Size of it on the 4.25 can't fit a decent sized light such as the TLR-1 HL or x300. Figuring that out after my hasty purchase was quite a shame. Lesson to myself about verifying the frame has what I want in it.
Pistol itself though is great, added an Atlas Ignition kit and it feels EVEN better shooting. I'd definitely recommend it to someone wanting a budget double stack 1911.
Tisas mentions the 4.25 rail won’t fit the bigger x300/TLR1 lights, only the smaller TLR7a style lights.
However, the Mac 4.25 *will* fit the bigger TLR1/x300 lights.
@@jasonathey2551Personally I did not see where they mentioned it, I had just tried myself and learned after the fact. Besides that small gripe it is a great pistol, I believe I am 1000ish into mine with a cleaning halfway through and it runs cheap shit fine.
@@maj3969 yeah you kinda have to do some digging to figure that part out with the rail. Why can’t it be like the Mac? Idk. Still a great gun, glad you’re enjoying it!
Qvo tactical might have a fix with a new key
This is the price of a Cheely grip without installation.
Where did you purchase that holster my friend?
On our website Rdrgear.com you can order the 5” 2011 for the XC. Add a note tisas B9R DS.
What screws did you use to mount the optic
M3 x 0.5mm threaded (metric), either 8mm or 10mm long (depending on thickness of your optic)
If you get the holosun EPS carry, it will come with the screws and they are the same thread size. I used the mounting plate because to me the optic sat low. But if you use the mounting plate you won’t need to file down the screws.
Mac JSOC 1911 review.
When is it re-uploading?
I’ve been waiting for months.
They are making great stuff and outpacing the competition and the gun runs great. I am anticipating your thoughts on it.
Its coming
You stopped drinking at SHOT show? I was pretty much drunk during the whole damn show..... even though I didn't go...... 😂
For under 650 this is supppppppppper tempting
I got mine for $699.
They’re $620 on gun deals
Are 2011 double stack magazine universal to other 2011s?
Only Checkmate, sti, staccato, mbx and prodigy... bul armory and wilson plus certain others are proprietary mags. Have review specs
Yes but only buy STI/checkmates.
Atlas mags will work too
@@jasonathey2551 actually any staccato pattern mags will work
I like it might get a carry one but I don’t like the barrel
Usually, you get what you pay for. I would save save up if you need to, but each thier own.
yes and no, there is nothing inherently more complicated about manufacturing a 2011 vs a 1911, or any double stack 9mm, people have just been getting r@ped for years because there was only one company doing it.
And sometimes, you pay for minimal differences, or at least differences that don't really matter to you.
$650 for a 85% as-good gun as a first 2011 for someone, rather than $2400? Or spend the same money, but now have 7,000 round of ammo to train with?
A lot of people might prefer that.
@@joeyassyrian Yes, but there are extra costs in a hand-fit gun. I don't know about Staccato, but Alchemy puts 20-30 hours of labor per gun into fitting, blending, polishing, finishing, and it shows. That's where the extra several thousand dollars goes. Some $ for the brand, but most toward the gun.
@@SteveHamlin1 Yes I own semi-customs, I will pay more just like you said because there are people fitting those guns from oversized parts.. You can feel the difference in the gun. But Staccato is not a fitted gun, nor is it assembled by gunsmiths. It's just machined components with good tolerances and assembled by techs. It has always been overpriced in my opinion. I would rather have a cheap base gun and hand fit the parts myself made from billet. I would have a better gun than a Staccato and much cheaper. I just built my first 1911 recently and it was worth going through the process to fit every component myself. I will probably do the same for my next 2011.
It needs a nice heavy flush cut and reverse crowned KKM bull barrel, Atlas tooless guide rod, full length rail, and better slide cuts. It’s got too much of a dated look for a new modern 2011 style gun. Tisas is a great company but as far as the new budget 2011’s that just came out, visually I like the MAC over the Tisas and definitely a 4.25” version 👍🏻👍🏻 great video brother 🫡 I hope you’re doing well.
"It’s got too much of a dated look for a new modern 2011 style gun."
I like that it's a generic 2011, with an upper that is almost USGI - no facets, cuts, angles, etc. Same style as with their 1911s - classic styling with just a few modern touches.
you know the EPS has the same footprint as the EPS carry and has an almost full sized window right?
I don’t need a bigger window. I shoot target focused. The eps had the same foot print. But the EPs is wider then a the eps carry
@@rdrgear well I mean if you just start sticking an eps on the gun instead of an eps carry you don't have to bother talking about smaller optic windows anymore... the option exists and the eps window is bigger than say, a traditional rmr window.
EPS is nice including low deck height. Window size same as 507c and 508t.
@@klee1410 but why do I need a bigger optic window when I’m shooting target focused.
@@klee1410 I get what your saying. I just don’t personally believe in the bigger window debate.
It’s like the iPhone paradox, everyone thinks that the only good brand out. No so!
I’m seeing the duty 5 inch double stack on gun broker for as low as $650.
damn thats a crazy price
Dam that’s a crazy good deal. Too good to be true IMO. If you get it vet the dealer.
Ive also seen it one or two other places under 700. Family firearms has it for 623 and 750 for the night stalker version
@@rdrgear yeah kinda makes me regret pulling the trigger on the single stack Tisas 9mm. Cause that’s a good deal. And all the reviews have been positive.
That being said the single stack has been out for much longer and I’d know to be reliable. Vs the double stack only recently came out and hasn’t seen the test of time yet.
@@DKlikesStuff same gun literally. Just holds 17 rounds.
Hangover. Classy.
Are they made in USA?
Turkey
@@Sakkyun i thought that but could find them ..
The Mac 9 ds is better than the prodigy by a loooong shot
Do you actually own both? How many rounds have you put through both?
@@rdrgear buddy had a 5” prodigy I got the 9ds. The prodigy never ran a single mag without a malfunction out of 500 rounds. My 9ds has 2k on it without a single malfunction.
Safe to say my buddy sold his prodigy
I have a 4.25in prodigy just hit the 1750 round mark. Not one single issues and i only have the springfield 2011 mags. Never an issue with any of them either. I will say i didnt purchase it until the gun was out a year. So they most likely have gotten those issues fixed.
@@TheNickcherry1 good to know but for the price Springfield is still ripping off customers with all the mim parts when Mac is all machined and forged
Quit lieing@@SS-tr5ru
I hope you don’t say Springfield is better than this tisas ds .
But it is the build quality is better even with the mim parts.
@@arsenal_27I’m sure you bought a prodigy and it works great… but you can’t say better build quality EVEN with MIM parts. I’ll take a tisas!
@@arsenal_27I’ve yet to see anyone have build or reliability issues with the Tisas guns. I have, however, heard of a slew of issues with the Springfield and the Apollo 11. The Tisas is new to market, so that might change as people get higher round counts.
They are both average quality manufacturers.
2 different guns. Both have great qualities. Each has some things I prefer over the other.
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I have long said that your Second Amendment right's should no more be denied by economics than it should be my politics. If you can afford to drop $3K for a gun good for you glad you are blessed like that. But not everyone is especially in the time of Biden economics. So there is a need for companies like Tisas to provide for those of us for whom money is tight like me. I have 3 of them gotten over time.
I agree with everything you said but the “blessed” part. No is blessed because they have a good job. They have a good job with a good salary because they prepared, studied and excuted a plan to work in the their sector. I worked a 60 hour a week ft job. Plus a part time 30 hour a week And started Rdr in my 700sq ft apartment.
Then moved to a storage unit with no AC and no bathroom. I had a plan and executed that plan. And continue with that execution daily. I was not blessed. I worked hard to have what I have today
@rdrgear you lost me at rmsc
Lol.
The Mac comes with the RMR footprint.
@@jasonathey2551 this dude owns like 10 atlas gun works pistols. He is just busting my balls
When they build it in 45acp...then we have something to talk about. Until then...no!
@@richardkennedy815 it’s 2024. Evlove. Zero need for a 13 round Pistol we already have a glock 21.
@@rdrgear I have 9's...they're called SIG 229's. Three in fact. Again, BEFORE I buy a Tisas, or even much look at it...will be a double stack 45. Now...as to your "Evlove" comment. First - spelling is apparently not your best subject. Second - You've no idea my reason's, or need, where I've been and certainly not what I use...so go pound sand. Last, I've little use for the Glock 21 having used both it and the SIG P220 Tactical [which had a rail but entire stainless which was profoundly heavy in full gear] in shall we say challenging environs... Thus, there is still room in my stable for a 45, but certainly not in 9mm...but only in the double stack, and I have my reason's. Clear!
The box is plastic. A paper clip is just as good as a padlock.
The usefulness of the box is that it satisfies TSA - lock it, put it in your locked luggage, and you're gtg.
Everybody knows that. Thanks Captain Obvious.
Trust no Turk.
Let’s be honest, they are making better stuff than Springfield right now speaking from Experience.
@@calebvanvoorhis6846agreed Springfield is selling a MIM part pistol for close to stealth arms pricing and people are calling that good. I’ll take a Tisas all day!
@@calebvanvoorhis6846 Facts.
Mrbean69beezy how many rounds are on your B9R.?
@@calebvanvoorhis6846 both my prodigy guns have Performed flawless. 2k plus now
Out of both guns
I just got this same model. Duty DS 9mm. Just put the first 200 rounds thru it on Sunday. Shoots great, very happy with the purchase. Only thing I will change is the ambi safety selector. I’m a left handed shooter and the safety on the right side is not beveled in any way. It really digs into the webbing on my left thumb. I think I’ll check your website for a holster for this pistol. Hopefully you have one for left handed shooters?