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  • čas přidán 9. 11. 2021
  • If you watch Dave Ramsey all the time like I do, you may have seen this episode involving an orthodontist with $1,000,000 in student loan debt!! I decided to do another Dave Ramsey reaction video since I've been talking about finance a lot. In this video, I talk about all things related to student debt and what a burden student debt is to so many people. Hope you all enjoy
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Komentáře • 269

  • @WiiKitty
    @WiiKitty Před 2 lety +133

    My understanding is that dental school is more expensive than med school. They have a residency but is unpaid so it is pretty “common” for someone to be a dentist and have 500k in debt due to taking debt for living expenses.

    • @StudentDoctorEli
      @StudentDoctorEli Před 2 lety +13

      Spot on right here. Some residencies you pay tuition as well.

    • @AvadaKedavra4172
      @AvadaKedavra4172 Před 2 lety +16

      Yeah, but the flipside is dental residency is entirely optional and not mandatory. Residency is for someone going into a dental subspecialty that's real specific (oral surgery, ortho etc). This is where some of those near 7 figure debts come from. You can avoid that and start immediately as an "attending" general dentist straight outta graduation and start chomping down on those high loan balances. Dental school is pricier than medical school, but there sure are examples where a med student's balance isn't far off from a dental student's balance.
      But yes, I generally think Dental School is overpriced as HELL.

    • @pikusarker1359
      @pikusarker1359 Před 2 lety +1

      How much orthodontist earn maximum per year in usa? Nice video.

    • @jeanlanz2344
      @jeanlanz2344 Před 2 lety

      What an indecent rip-off. The laws need to be changed allowing college and graduate student borrowers to declare bankruptcy and renegotiate their excessive debt...that's real capitalism, not all risks shoved onto the
      borrower.

    • @kevinclass2010
      @kevinclass2010 Před rokem

      @@pikusarker1359 200k

  • @CAB12152
    @CAB12152 Před rokem +20

    As a dental student I can attest that $1mill is not that far of a stretch. To be fully candid, my tuition alone is $92k a year, not including living expenses. If you were to take the full amount on loans, which obviously you need something to pay rent, etc. I know that my school approves up to a total loan amount of about $127k a year. Taking all of that into consideration, you would be well over $500k, likely nearing 600k with interest accrued during school. As far as I'm aware there are very few orthodontic residencies that don't require you to pay for them, and maybe none. At my program the Ortho residency is $47k a year, again, not including living expenses (~82k with living). So during the three year ortho residency you would be accruing about $40k in interest from your dental school loans while also taking another 80k. Now if you're following my math here you can see were already at ~$960k, and I hate to inform you, but this is not even the most expensive program out there. Realistically though an Orthodontist should make $400-500k+ a year though if that helps.

    • @karma1507
      @karma1507 Před 3 měsíci

      That's awful. If you start college at 18, you'll be around 30 when you finish residency (unless I messed up somewhere). Starting with $1 million of debt, you'll at least be in your 40s by the time you can actually start using your money how you want to.

    • @Joongsu
      @Joongsu Před 2 měsíci

      @@karma1507 I agree that medical/dental education are pricy and (unnecessarily) expensive as hell. But schools know that people that graduated WILL be able to pay it back so they have NO incentive to make the education cheaper. Hell, taking money from hungry student taking out federal/private loans must be the easiest/most predatory way to make $$$z

    • @michaelstollairetbarceo3287
      @michaelstollairetbarceo3287 Před 17 dny

      @@karma1507 Basically all of that effort only to maybe be rich in your 50s. Wow. That means hoping and praying for good health down the line is paramount.
      This all seems like so so much stress. I'll stick to headaches in finance.

  • @BoltCRNA
    @BoltCRNA Před 2 lety +90

    I was $200,000 in student loan debt from CRNA school. Paid it off in 2 years this month! Now real life can begin.

  • @pamelag3879
    @pamelag3879 Před 2 lety +84

    So I am a Pre-Dental student and am quite familiar with dental incomes bc I’ve asked around. As for an orthodontist, 250k is low but he is a new grad so it usually starts at 250k-350k in the beginning and then linear growth begins.

    • @StudentDoctorEli
      @StudentDoctorEli Před 2 lety +2

      there's a lot of money in dentistry but school and residency can get super expensive. Me and my classmates talk about this really often

    • @pamelag3879
      @pamelag3879 Před 2 lety +2

      @@StudentDoctorEli I totally agree with you. I’m glad you commented cause now I can check out your channel🤓

    • @pikusarker1359
      @pikusarker1359 Před 2 lety

      @@pamelag3879 mam how much orthodontist earn at maximum in usa? Plz reply. Thanks a lot.

    • @pamelag3879
      @pamelag3879 Před 2 lety +2

      @@pikusarker1359 I couldn’t tell you the max. I know some Orthodontists that make over 1M a year. It depends on the Doc as to how much they make. It depends on their location, whether they work for a corporation or private practice. It also depends on whether the Doc has their own practice...

    • @pikusarker1359
      @pikusarker1359 Před 2 lety

      @@pamelag3879 is the 1million before tax and overhead costs or after overhead costs and taxes?

  • @StudentDoctorEli
    @StudentDoctorEli Před 2 lety +29

    Loving the finance talk Dr. Cellini there aren't enough people that touch on it and a lot of us don't have a plan on how we're going to pay back all this debt!

  • @DemetriPanici
    @DemetriPanici Před 2 lety +62

    This is a common problem many doctors and dentists end up finding themselves in. Crazy that we're in a world where this happens

    • @DrCellini
      @DrCellini  Před 2 lety +9

      Facts

    • @vipneat7265
      @vipneat7265 Před 2 lety +7

      *in america

    • @JS-vi6tq
      @JS-vi6tq Před 10 měsíci

      And then there are Vets💀

    • @Joongsu
      @Joongsu Před 2 měsíci

      If you manage to go to school debt-free (which is unlikely) or live very frugally for about a decade during and post training combined, the rewards can be immense. Going into your late 30s being millionaire with “fk you” money is nothing to scoff at.

  • @Nameisabe
    @Nameisabe Před 2 lety +15

    Dental student in CA here.
    Dental school tuition is close to 100k a year for 4 years. This doesn’t include living expenses. Living expenses in CA is 20k a year with room mates.
    So we’re at 480k for dental school.
    Residency is another 120k a year for 3 years. With living we’re looking at 420k.
    That brings us to around 900k. Now add in interest throughout the life of the loan from your first year in school and add in undergrad loans.
    I wish I could say that this guy was being irresponsible with how much money he was taking out for his education but this is “normal” for many dental residents.
    Also, dental residencies often don’t pay their residents.
    Dental education costs in the US are insane.

    • @yangzhang2536
      @yangzhang2536 Před rokem

      You don’t get pay during residency as a dentist?

    • @Nameisabe
      @Nameisabe Před rokem

      @@yangzhang2536 in dentistry, some residencies pay but it’s my understanding that most don’t

    • @yoleeisbored
      @yoleeisbored Před rokem +1

      Holy shit amd dentists have high suicide rates too...

    • @yangzhang2536
      @yangzhang2536 Před rokem

      😭😭😭

  • @GeoffreyHiggs
    @GeoffreyHiggs Před 2 lety +6

    I'll tell you how it happened...He went to undergrad, probably around 30k in debt, he went to a private dental school, NYU, USC, or one of the other schools, 400k in debt..he went to Ortho (non-paid) residency another 400-500k in debt, you have to pay tuition for ortho residency and its non-paid. All the while, interest is accruing on the undergrad and DDS degree. that's close to 900k, spend another year after graduation getting set up before making any money, and it's easily at a million, in debt. (Oral surgery, maybe dental anesthesia, are the only paid residency programs in Dentistry). The real problem, is that the government backed student loans, so the education institutions, where able to raise tuition astronomically high, without loosing out on enrollment due affordability.

  • @ritafava4165
    @ritafava4165 Před 2 lety +15

    I can confirm. My boyfriend is a dentist and said most residency programs are unpaid.

    • @pikusarker1359
      @pikusarker1359 Před 2 lety

      How much your boyfriend earn as a dentist?

    • @zzzzzzzzzz098
      @zzzzzzzzzz098 Před 2 lety

      Depends on the specialty. Most ortho residencies are unpaid.
      Specialties that pay you during residency: General dentistry, Pediatrics, Oral surgery, Dental anesthesiology, some endodontics.
      Specialties that won't pay you during residency: Most orthodontics, most periodontics, most prosthodontics, some endodontics.

    • @pikusarker1359
      @pikusarker1359 Před 2 lety

      @@zzzzzzzzzz098 sir how much orthodontists typically earn in usa?

    • @zzzzzzzzzz098
      @zzzzzzzzzz098 Před 2 lety

      @@pikusarker1359 Probably average 300k-350k.

    • @pikusarker1359
      @pikusarker1359 Před 2 lety

      @@zzzzzzzzzz098 sir is it before tax or after tax?

  • @ErikaCorrea
    @ErikaCorrea Před rokem +5

    Hi! I’m a CZcamsr and a dentist pursuing orthodontics. Yes you are right about most dental residences being unpaid. There are a couple paid orthodontic programs but they are very hard to get into and accept very few students. Most ortho programs I’ve seen can cost up to 100K a year and you have to pay this for 2-3 years.

  • @KillerAJ
    @KillerAJ Před 2 lety +24

    I took out too much during pharmacy school. Instead of taking out the tuition money only, I also took out the full “cost of admission “ which included books cost, equipment cost, laptop cost, transport and housing cost.

    • @harvestingseason2725
      @harvestingseason2725 Před 2 lety +2

      Then how else would u pay for it?? I'm genuinely asking because it is my understanding that you don't work while completing your graduate program

    • @KillerAJ
      @KillerAJ Před 2 lety +3

      @@harvestingseason2725 I mean, I did work but maximum 16 hours a week and at a pay rate of $11/hr, which doesn’t really get you much.

    • @harvestingseason2725
      @harvestingseason2725 Před 2 lety +2

      @@KillerAJ ah ok got ya. Are you working as a pharmacist today?

  • @zainnnf
    @zainnnf Před rokem +3

    3:41 interest is so evil

  • @saramorcos9068
    @saramorcos9068 Před 2 lety +17

    Hey Dr. Cellini - pharmacy student here (crying in debt). Can you do a video on how to manage your loans during graduate school and tips n trick to look out for? How to prepare for loans when you graduate? Would be super helpful!!!

    • @saramorcos9068
      @saramorcos9068 Před 2 lety +2

      i feel like majority of students who graduate with 250K debt have to live off of rice and beans for next 5-10 years in order to pay off debt reasonably - WHY IS IT SO SCARY!!

    • @joshbritton
      @joshbritton Před 2 lety +1

      Check out his video “How I’m paying off student loans” super helpful.

    • @Sinitsu
      @Sinitsu Před 2 lety

      Hello fellow Pharmacy Student, hang in there!

  • @larryhon
    @larryhon Před 2 lety +6

    Pediatric dentist here. Graduated residency in 2018, 630k debt. I expect to be debt free in 2025, but not everyone in my shoes will see the light at the end of the tunnel. For anyone reading- I joined the army reserves for loan repayment, work in my office Mon-Thurs, and help attend at the dental school on Fridays. Many dentist I know will not be able do pay off their student loans, because of loan-interest. Here is the breakdown for my life- tuition was about 300k for 4 years, but I lived off 30k per year for 6 years (180k), residency was 2 years at 30k per year (60k). 540k total, but interest was ticking for 6 years at about 7%. Ortho residency is worse, because it can be 100k per year for 3 years (300k).
    If you join army reserves, you have to keep attacking your loans because you can finish your contract and still owe the same amount due to interest.

    • @NoDebtNoDrama
      @NoDebtNoDrama Před 3 měsíci

      @larryhon Hi Larry, congratulations. I see this comment is 2 yrs old but on the chance you read it, let your friends know that I can help them with their loans to pay off half time. Yes really! Yes it has to do with interest and math. 😊

  • @aranmanalang8127
    @aranmanalang8127 Před 2 lety +4

    PA student, originally a pre-med student who’s dream was crushed by the MCAT commenting for the algorithm

  • @StudentDoctorEli
    @StudentDoctorEli Před 2 lety +4

    Dental School is super expensive. My schools tuition is $85k per year, not to include how high the cost of living is in Boston. A lot of Dental Residencies also charge tuition rather than paying their residents. Some residencies YOU pay. For example, UNLV Orthodontic residency is $79,000 for years 1 and 2 (each) and $42,000 for the third year. More loans/scholarships needed! This deters people from school and specializing.

  • @isaaczarayan3422
    @isaaczarayan3422 Před 2 lety +1

    Loved the vid

  • @zhvanrekani1408
    @zhvanrekani1408 Před 2 lety

    Nice video reacts . Thank you 👍

  • @1p4142136
    @1p4142136 Před 2 lety +2

    Salaries depend on the city you work. Also the military can help you cancel some of the debt. If you are a salary person that it’s frugal with his/her salary it would take 30+ years to save up 7 times your annual salary.

  • @armandocortez2291
    @armandocortez2291 Před 2 lety +3

    I work in the field, the very well off orthodontist are the business owners. Most associate dentist will have a salary and bonus for production.

    • @pikusarker1359
      @pikusarker1359 Před 2 lety

      Sir you much do you make now? Plz reply. Thanks a lot.

  • @Guccimanegut
    @Guccimanegut Před 2 lety +15

    He is probably starting out so the 250 will go up but the reason he is in so much debt I’d because in dental specialties (other than oral surgery) you have to pay to be in the program rather than being paid so he probably had anywhere from 400-600k in debt just from dental school then the rest has been paying his residency program and interest accumulating all those years

  • @zzzzzzzzzz098
    @zzzzzzzzzz098 Před 2 lety +31

    In dentistry right now, so I can explain a bit. Unfortunately, it's easy to come up with a few ways to hit a million dollars debt as an orthodontist. First, US dental schools charge the most for training in the world. If a student has no financial help, they usually graduate from a public school to owe 300k-400k, and private schools owe 550-650k (this includes interest and cost of living) just to obtain their DDS.
    If he went to an expensive private dental school, then 600k of debt by graduation is not only possible, but probable. You can owe a little less if you happen to live in that city though, so 600k could potentially roll back to 500k, even if it's an expensive private school.
    Afterwards, ortho residencies are 3 years and are unpaid. Dental residencies may give salary or charge tuition depending on which specialty you choose. In this case, ortho happens to be a specialty that charges you but don't pay you for 3 years. Most residencies will charge around 80k, but you still have to think about cost of living and interest, so you could pay potentially over 100k a year again for your ortho residency. With interest, 600k + 300k + interest for another 3 years, this could easily go to a million dollars and over.

    • @harvestingseason2725
      @harvestingseason2725 Před 2 lety +3

      Yup

    • @Russianboyz95
      @Russianboyz95 Před 2 lety +6

      O.O you guys *pay* for residency?

    • @zzzzzzzzzz098
      @zzzzzzzzzz098 Před 2 lety +4

      @@Russianboyz95 Yep. Depending on which specialty you want to go into, you either get paid or have to pay.
      Have to pay: Orthodontics, periodontics
      Get paid: General practice, oral & maxillofacial surgery, pedodontics, dental anesthesia
      Either/or: Endodontics, prosthodontics.

    • @BigTroubleD
      @BigTroubleD Před rokem +3

      Wtf ew no

    • @daphne10120
      @daphne10120 Před rokem

      @@zzzzzzzzzz098with how hard residents are worked, I can’t imagine not being paid at least a bit. I’m looking at potential residencies for when I finish med school and most residents work over 100 hours a week and make less than 10 an hour.

  • @aliabdelrahman8002
    @aliabdelrahman8002 Před 2 lety +6

    Ayo Dr.Cellini can you make a video explaining what to do in case someone does not get accepted into medical school?

    • @zahsum
      @zahsum Před 2 lety +3

      Depending on your major in college, you go into that field. If you were a bio major, you can become a biologist, teacher, etc. You can even be a lab analyst at biopharm companies. That's what i did during my gap yar

  • @jacobl5488
    @jacobl5488 Před 2 lety +4

    Not only are some of these residencies unpaid but... you have to pay THEM!

  • @jasonlopez8499
    @jasonlopez8499 Před 2 lety +4

    so i just went on google and saw that dental residents actually have to PAY to be in their respective residency. So they have debt from undergrad, dental school AND residency. WOW.

  • @drose44444
    @drose44444 Před 2 lety +3

    That’s a big reason I decided to study medicine in Mexico City, Mexico compared to the United States.

  • @rjsmusicstudio4716
    @rjsmusicstudio4716 Před 2 lety +20

    You should react to nurse to riches on how a nurse made 800k in a single year.

    • @DrCellini
      @DrCellini  Před 2 lety +15

      Oooh. Link!?

    • @kathyobrien1063
      @kathyobrien1063 Před 2 lety +5

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    • @YusufQuest
      @YusufQuest Před 2 lety +3

      Yes!!!! Do it please!

    • @annachristine3413
      @annachristine3413 Před 2 lety +1

      Yes please do this! Last semester of nursing school student here!! LOVE watching your vids. You and adrianna are the cutest! Sending you both love from Saint Louis!

    • @zahsum
      @zahsum Před 2 lety +1

      I saw the video and WTF I'm in shock that nurses have the potentiality to crush a MD/DO's salary... I don't understand how the system allows for doctors to get screwed like that

  • @matthewchampagne7860
    @matthewchampagne7860 Před 2 lety +2

    Here early! thanks for the great content👍👍

  • @madikoko
    @madikoko Před rokem +1

    PA school is right around 150k for 2 years

  • @he2261
    @he2261 Před 2 lety +3

    4th year dental student here. The reason he is in 1 mil debt is because dental schools charge crazy high tuition. He went to a school that charges one of the highest tuitions in the nation, as well as its residency program. For orthodontics residency, you have to pay, they don't pay you. So he had to pay for those extra years of schooling as well. Orthodontics is getting saturated now because programs are realizing dental students would love to be a part of this field and will pay any cost to become a certified orthodontist -thus more programs are opening up. However, the salary start up is a little lower and general dentists are starting to do more invisalign cases. Orthodontics is a big risk to pursue nowadays. Which is why I am pursuing oral surgery. It is the ENT/Plastics of dentistry and more competitive than orthodontics.

    • @pikusarker1359
      @pikusarker1359 Před 2 lety

      How much orthodontist earn maximum in usa? Plz reply.

    • @pikusarker1359
      @pikusarker1359 Před 2 lety

      How much you will be making as an oral surgeon?

  • @eyekandy3000
    @eyekandy3000 Před 2 lety +13

    He should file for bankruptcy. Traditionally student loans are not forgiven however in his case he can definitely prove undue hardship with a good attorney.

    • @Prplngldbee616
      @Prplngldbee616 Před 2 lety

      If it's Federal loans (which I doubt I'm sure the majority are private) they won't count. But this may be his only way out of situation.

    • @willmatz41
      @willmatz41 Před 2 lety +1

      The last stat I heard on this was that 4 people ever in history were able to prove undue hardship through this program. So I wouldn’t count on that

    • @eyekandy3000
      @eyekandy3000 Před 2 lety

      @@willmatz41 did those 4 people have $1000000 in student loans? This is an unusual situation. The only negative is he is gainfully employed with what’s considered a high income. So that’ll be hard to argue

    • @AnaLiBox
      @AnaLiBox Před rokem

      How about just leaving the country USA forever and never come back .. No more debt! 👍

  • @malakabdelhadi6523
    @malakabdelhadi6523 Před 2 lety +1

    So I know it’s National Rad Tech Week! So did you do anything for you IR techs this week?

  • @jeffreystarnes9500
    @jeffreystarnes9500 Před 2 lety +1

    median salary of $208,000 in 2020. The best-paid 25 percent made $208,000 that year, while the lowest-paid 25 percent made $150,250.

  • @skippyz3652
    @skippyz3652 Před 2 lety

    Love the Ramsey show. Thats some student loan though😅💸🙈

  • @bruhhmomentumm
    @bruhhmomentumm Před 2 lety +3

    If he went to the most expensive dental school (~$700k from NYU of Midwestern) and went to the most expensive residency (~$300k from GA ortho residency) he could rack up 1mil in debt. He could’ve not done either and just went to a private dental school ($4-600k) and a typical ortho residency (~$1-200k), an expensive masters, and an expensive undergrad maybe? Regardless, I’ve spoken with ortho residents and new grad orthos and the income for new grads is about $250k-350k/year and established orthodontists that they’ve met make anywhere between $600k-$800k. Key word is ESTABLISHED, and it can take 7-15 years to reach that point.

  • @germanshepherd6638
    @germanshepherd6638 Před 10 měsíci +1

    My state just made college free. I’m going back for dental hygienist.

  • @shamrockgirl6595
    @shamrockgirl6595 Před 2 lety

    🚑 Love 💞 reacts!
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    🚑 Love your variety of videos 🎥

  • @PhilippayFiasco
    @PhilippayFiasco Před 2 lety +5

    Honestly, the conversation around physician debt is never long or detail enough to discuss the factors at play
    Undergrad debt
    Grad school Debt
    Out of state Med School Debt
    Bad advise from advisors
    The generation you grew up in and the emphasis on obtaining a college degree
    Rising costs of education
    Criminally high interest rates on some loans
    Access to information
    etc
    The amount can definitely reach > 600K+
    The Nontraditional path is typically the most expensive path.
    ...But yeah 1 million is insane

    • @pikusarker1359
      @pikusarker1359 Před 2 lety

      Sir what is the maximum income an orthodontist can earn in usa? Plz reply. Thanks a lot.

  • @habib580
    @habib580 Před 2 lety +2

    I believe orthodontic residency requires hour to pay to be in it. You don’t get paid

  • @hiandbye3863
    @hiandbye3863 Před 2 lety +1

    so in the full video, he explained that he have opened his own office and works 3 days at another office which pays 250k. opening a practice and his student loan could result in 1 mil, but idk if that loan is strictly his student loan.

    • @kasa9884
      @kasa9884 Před 2 lety +1

      It's student loans- dental school is more expensive than medical school, and the dental residencies are unpaid and actually make you pay them to train, so it's easy for dental specialists to reach close to $1 million by dental education alone, then add in any undergrad loans and boom! $1 million total in student loans.

  • @jodiethane9359
    @jodiethane9359 Před rokem +3

    Im a Y2 atm. I will be at 450k when I finish. My biggest mistake was taking out full loans in undergrad. I didn’t need to just didnt want to ask my hubby for money. I was used to paying my own way. My biggest fear is graduating at 54 with a home size loan to pay. I am a veteran, and I am looking at working at a VA for forgiveness. Only way it makes sense for me.

    • @jodiethane9359
      @jodiethane9359 Před rokem

      @wilbur mcwaffles means 2nd year medical student. Y1 Y2 etc.

  • @daniaawni5180
    @daniaawni5180 Před 2 lety +5

    Interest is not allowed in Islam to protect people from falling into this dark hole.

  • @AnnDVM
    @AnnDVM Před 2 lety +30

    When I see videos like this, I am extra grateful to be living in Denmark where education is free and we even get paid to go..

    • @eyekandy3000
      @eyekandy3000 Před 2 lety +6

      Exactly! That’s how it should be. Instead of shipping in doctors from overseas we could pay students to go to medical school

    • @M11TS
      @M11TS Před 2 lety +6

      Same in Germany.

    • @Dreamer-kd2jv
      @Dreamer-kd2jv Před 2 lety +5

      We also make $100k more than you, at least in my specialty. So as good as graduating debt free would have been, I prefer my higher salary that pays my student loan in 5 years and then I get to keep it.

    • @buckeye-pe6df
      @buckeye-pe6df Před 2 lety +7

      Your school isn't free. You have the highest tax rate in the world. Your taxes pay for you "free" education.

    • @AnnDVM
      @AnnDVM Před 2 lety +8

      I would much rather pay 40-50% income tax and then have at least somewhat equal opportunities for everyone when it comes to education, as well as free healthcare and other social securities than having lots of people dealing with debt due to illness or education. That's a price I'm very willing to pay for equal opportunity and peace of mind..

  • @engineered-mind
    @engineered-mind Před 2 lety +3

    This is why I did Engineering and not Medicine

  • @delatorre008
    @delatorre008 Před 2 lety +4

    Not for anything but Dietitians have to PAY for their "internship" or residency and make no income during that year.... only for a year, but still, it's criminal not to pay people for working!!! Poor guy.. those loans are on another level!

  • @StudentDoctorEli
    @StudentDoctorEli Před 2 lety +3

    I'm not a youtube dentist but i'm a dental student I love talking about this stuff I'd love the opportunity to talk Dr. Cellini! I make dental school videos on my channel you were one of the people I watched when I was pre-med and inspired me to start my youtube journey

  • @camiloperdomoluna7556
    @camiloperdomoluna7556 Před 2 lety +1

    In Colombia ALL RESIDENCY AND FELLOWSHIP PROGRAMS HAVE TO BE PAYED BY THE STUDENTS

  • @HelloMoto_
    @HelloMoto_ Před 2 lety +5

    I hope this guy watches your videos, I think you have way better advice.
    That being said, it is still crazy to me how you have to pay so much money to obtain a career here in the states. It’s sad. Hopefully something changes in the future.

  • @yarnmaniacs8936
    @yarnmaniacs8936 Před 2 lety +8

    Holy Pete! I somewhat agree with Ramsey but he’s also the same person that states you can attend college without loans….I’m thinking this guy had oodles of debt from other things related to school? Did he max his loan any to include housing, and just basic living expenses? Inquiring minds want to know!!

    • @sean2044
      @sean2044 Před 2 lety

      I've attended community college without loans. Does that count?

    • @promiseibeabuchi6537
      @promiseibeabuchi6537 Před 2 lety

      @@sean2044 Please how did you do it?

  • @eyekandy3000
    @eyekandy3000 Před 2 lety +6

    I think another issue is how can loan providers let someone borrow $1,000,000 in student loans? There should be a cap - there is on federal loans- I know cause I maxed mine but I guess the private loan route you can borrow as much as you want. In other countries people in higher education are paid for their education not the other way round …

    • @Chels-fz5uq
      @Chels-fz5uq Před 2 lety +1

      He may not have taken out that much in principle….but interest over the years may have gotten him to 1000000

    • @eyekandy3000
      @eyekandy3000 Před 2 lety

      @@Chels-fz5uq if he was always paying the minimum then interest wouldn’t accrue to that level. I guess if he was unpaid for many years.

    • @Chels-fz5uq
      @Chels-fz5uq Před 2 lety

      @@eyekandy3000 he was likely deferred through residency…..and yes interest can accrue that much especially if only paying the minimum

  • @jerymia2911
    @jerymia2911 Před 2 lety +25

    I love that you are speaking on this. My daughter (she's 15) currently aspires to be an anesthesiologist. It's to hard to encourage her to pursue a profession that has the potential to put her in massive amounts of debt.

    • @wannacashmeoutside
      @wannacashmeoutside Před 2 lety +4

      Have her consider CNA (nurse anesthetist!) it’s an advanced nursing degree and they do everything an MD does :) the journey is just as competitive and difficult but significantly cheaper

    • @jayritchie2785
      @jayritchie2785 Před 2 lety +4

      The debt should be far less with medicine and the income far more for anesthesiology.

    • @brittnelli
      @brittnelli Před 2 lety +18

      *CRNA
      Massive difference.

    • @gerinimoify
      @gerinimoify Před 2 lety +24

      @@wannacashmeoutside Respect for what you do, but that comment just isn't true. It wouldn't even logically make sense that some of the best and brightest students work and train and study for thousands of additional hours to get an MD just to get the same results as a CRNA. There is a clear difference, and you should be embracing the career you chose, not trying to make it something it's not.

    • @jerymia2911
      @jerymia2911 Před 2 lety +2

      Thank you! I will definitely mention this too her 🙂

  • @mehranmalakpour6143
    @mehranmalakpour6143 Před 2 lety +5

    I am a newly grad Endodontist, and have 720$k in loan. 300k income on average. I dont have an office and dont have a house cause I cant afford it, driving my 2010 Camry probably for another 10+ years hopefully is gonna last me that long. I love what I do and have never had any regrets going into the field. wealth accumulation is very difficult at this day and age, and if thats your intention I do not recommend dentistry anymore.

    • @Jdw6848
      @Jdw6848 Před rokem

      You should move to Bismarck N D the endontists are so busy it takes 2 months to get in. They charge about $2200 for a root canal. So if they do 15 a week and take 12 weeks off a year that comes to $1,320,000

  • @sherrydawson6253
    @sherrydawson6253 Před 2 lety +4

    Holly smokes that's so depressing! I can't even imagine going to school for yrs then graduate owning that amt just starting your career. How sad. He should of been watching your videos.i wonder how many yrs he went to school? I love when u react to other videos. Your so cool.i feel bad for him. He should of picked a different field or school.😢

    • @kasa9884
      @kasa9884 Před 2 lety

      Dr. Cellini's videos didn't exist when he began dental school.

  • @mjmhockey02
    @mjmhockey02 Před 2 lety +16

    Newly graduated dentist here. Private dental schools can require as much as 400k (sometimes more) in loans. Most ortho residency are not paid and charge tuition and could be an additional 200k. So I can see 600k but idk how he got to a million. Makes me feel a little better about my loans 😬.

    • @pikusarker1359
      @pikusarker1359 Před 2 lety

      Sir how much do you earn as a dentist?plz reply. Thanks a lot.

    • @zzzzzzzzzz098
      @zzzzzzzzzz098 Před 2 lety +4

      Private dental schools can require 400k in tuition ONLY before interest. With interest and living expenses it could go up to 600k-650k. Then tack on an unpaid Ortho residency for 75k a year for 3 years, and continued interest, that's a mil easy.

    • @pikusarker1359
      @pikusarker1359 Před 2 lety

      @@zzzzzzzzzz098 sir how many years will it take for an orthodontist to pay off all his student loans?

    • @zzzzzzzzzz098
      @zzzzzzzzzz098 Před 2 lety

      @@pikusarker1359 Can't answer that. It's different for everyone. Where you live, how much rent you pay, how much money you make, how much student debt you have, are you on a loan repayment plan, etc, it's all varied for the individual.

    • @olegzadoyannyy9459
      @olegzadoyannyy9459 Před 2 lety +1

      With cost of living he could have racked up another 100-200k. And the remaining difference could be his under grad dept 🥶. Can’t be more thankful that I just got accepted into a state dental school

  • @PxPoseideNxN
    @PxPoseideNxN Před 2 lety

    Hey Dr. Cellini love the content! Should I subscribe?

  • @agk1511990
    @agk1511990 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Your tax calculations was wrong. Not all his 250,000 is taxed at 30%. You have to claim the standard deduction and also income is taxed starting with a smaller tax brackets. Probably only 20-30% of her income with be taxed at 30%

  • @alreadythen1
    @alreadythen1 Před rokem +1

    So I went to school for 9 months as an LPN and makes $90k/yr cause of overtime and bonuses. I know RN makes $150k and up.

  • @engineered-mind
    @engineered-mind Před 2 lety

    Who does your vid editing

  • @SayedI313
    @SayedI313 Před 2 lety +7

    Reporter: Hey Austin Powers, what will you do with one million dollar ransom money you received from the united nations?
    Austin Powers: [With the Austin Powers smile] Pay off my dental school

  • @lindadepascale8290
    @lindadepascale8290 Před 2 lety

    Serious investments!

  • @krishnakarale14
    @krishnakarale14 Před rokem +1

    Here in India government medical College is cheap and good it cost you nearly 1200 dollar each year for 5 year and if you come from economically backward section it will be going to half the amount you pay so we don't have any student loan on us if we study from government but it is very hard to get into that

  • @RyanAmplification
    @RyanAmplification Před 2 lety +4

    Well some dental schools are over 80k per years (Midwestern). Plus housing and living expenses can be 30k per year. So just in loans it can be 110k per year. Plus 4 years of interest on that. Plus interest on it during however long residency is. And if Dr. C is right about dental residents/fellows not getting paid or having to pay, then extra loans for that and interest. $1mil would be about right. That's insane.

  • @you452tube
    @you452tube Před 2 lety +1

    As a nurse for 20yrs my wages have been flat for years... Corporate America broked the unions in the 80s and 90s...so we have little bargaining power.....upper middle class was silent.....now Corporate America is coming for you.....buying up practices, and limiting admiting privileges unless you work for them.... I curious to see how this plays out.

  • @JulieTobin-Ruszczyk
    @JulieTobin-Ruszczyk Před 10 měsíci

    My opinion. The insurance companies suck up most of what Dr get today. Example I had a MRI, that charged 4,800. The insurance company paid $98. My co pay was 0. This went through from registration to technician to radiologist. How do they do that?????

  • @edgehodl4832
    @edgehodl4832 Před 2 lety +1

    his interest is 5800 a month???? omg this is insane

  • @edwinshumaker5849
    @edwinshumaker5849 Před 2 lety

    do you have a good resource to confirm that a person is qualifying for the public service forgiveness?

    • @DrCellini
      @DrCellini  Před 2 lety +6

      The problem is there is no resource to actually know that you qualify lol. You can check out requirements at studentaid.gov

    • @edwinshumaker5849
      @edwinshumaker5849 Před 2 lety

      @@DrCellini Could you tell me the percentage difference from what you saw between academic vs private practice IR salaries? I unfortunately will be in the 500-600k area when I complete (medical school high tuition) so I am just trying to find out what my options would be. Thanks

  • @st942433
    @st942433 Před rokem +1

    20years ago I graduated with $200000 in debt from Dental School. Got super lucky and had my 3 years of specialty training paid for by the government. Now the graduates will come out with $600000 easy. You add three years of specialty and you are looking at well over $1,000,000. I think kids are better off going to trade school tbh.

  • @miscdylaneous5269
    @miscdylaneous5269 Před 2 lety +1

    Another profession that requires a doctorates, but does not pay a doctorates salary is a Clinical Psychologist.

  • @lrx54
    @lrx54 Před rokem +1

    The schools have enjoyed 20 years of profiteering off the students. No more. On line college offer MD degrees. To up grade my pharmacist degree to MD? About $30k then costs of internship, residency etc. The point being, education should not be expensive, it’s free on the internet, as information is everywhere. It’s time the brick and mortar schools provide low tuition.

  • @GeeGee2995
    @GeeGee2995 Před rokem +1

    Dentistry is more expensive than med school. All the schools I looked at when applying had on average a cost of attendance of 500k for 4 years then this guy went straight into residency for a few more years so yes, I get it. I accepted the offer at the cheapest school i got into but that still is 125k a year. I will be paying it for the rest of my life but im not doing any specialty. If i pay over a 25 year period, it will be a tiny fraction of my income even if i will end up paying more in interest, idc cause i won't feep it as much. Id have to pay 6k a month to finish paying it off in 10 years so it will all depend on how much my net salary is when I start.

    • @NoDebtNoDrama
      @NoDebtNoDrama Před 3 měsíci

      are you in a practice now? or starting school?

  • @emperorpalpatine8943
    @emperorpalpatine8943 Před 2 lety

    Hello Dr

  • @BedeliaMikk
    @BedeliaMikk Před 2 lety +9

    I study medicine in Rome in english and I do have some american classmates. We pay 2000€ per year. Why more american students don't study in Europe? It is so much cheaper, and the education is just as good.

    • @ashwinashwin3837
      @ashwinashwin3837 Před 2 lety

      @Emily Millet 😂😂

    • @PrideofPitchers
      @PrideofPitchers Před 2 lety +1

      For students with MD and DO degrees obtained from US med schools, the national match rates are comparable (around 90%). For IMGs its 50-60%

    • @pikusarker1359
      @pikusarker1359 Před 2 lety

      How much doctor earns in rome?

  • @simran6521
    @simran6521 Před 2 lety +4

    Loans holds me back

  • @tarawhite4419
    @tarawhite4419 Před 10 měsíci

    What were you thinking?
    I wasn't thinking

  • @dvalred
    @dvalred Před měsícem

    And here I am feeling ashamed of my $30,000 in student debt...

  • @alqoshgirl
    @alqoshgirl Před 4 měsíci

    My SIL got accepted to 2 schools. One will cost 400k and the other 600k. She wants to go to the 600k cause she wants to have fun too 🤦🏻‍♀️

  • @andyblazer2123
    @andyblazer2123 Před 2 lety

    Dr. Cellini I was recently diagnosed with Ligma please help me understand what this means

  • @amberbailey8241
    @amberbailey8241 Před 2 lety

    Won't these loan consolidation companies help? Why hasn't he at least entertained that option?

  • @teams3345
    @teams3345 Před rokem

    They should be talking to Joey Hyden.

  • @j.wilkerson1905
    @j.wilkerson1905 Před rokem

    Man that Dave guys hates debt 😂

  • @Jdw6848
    @Jdw6848 Před rokem

    They make well over $250,000 a year

  • @jenniferwatts3777
    @jenniferwatts3777 Před 2 lety

    And I have a new baby niece in Australia

  • @DiegoMartinez-qx8cy
    @DiegoMartinez-qx8cy Před 2 lety +1

    Early 🙌

  • @FacundoMD
    @FacundoMD Před 2 lety +3

    ER DOC HERE !!!!! AS I SAID BEFORE I HAVE 500K in Loans ! Will make a video about it soon.

    • @pikusarker1359
      @pikusarker1359 Před 2 lety +1

      Sir how many years will it take for you to pay off all your student loans? Plz reply.

    • @FacundoMD
      @FacundoMD Před 2 lety +1

      @@pikusarker1359 WELL MY GOOD SIR ! I WILL BE MAKING A VIDEO ON THAT. BUT THE PLAN IS NO MORE THAN 3-4 YEARS. I KNOW IT SOUNDS CRAZY BUT MOST PEOPLE ARE NOT ME AND DONT HAVE MY WIFE WHO IS SUPER AMAZING WITH MONEY. THE KEY IS SIMPLE CONTINUE TO LIVE LIKE A RESIDENT AND THROW ALL YOUR MONEY AT IT FRO 3 YEARS. :)
      MARK MY WORDS !!!!!!

    • @pikusarker1359
      @pikusarker1359 Před 2 lety

      @@FacundoMD sir how much you will be making as a doctor? Plz reply. Thanks a lot.

  • @Samuel-ew9ui
    @Samuel-ew9ui Před 2 lety +1

    Despite the Economic crisis its still a good time to start up an investment.

  • @shamrockgirl6595
    @shamrockgirl6595 Před 2 lety +1

    1 MILLION DOLLARS!
    💵 💲 🤑 💸 💴 💱 💵 💲

  • @Li-mx7uy
    @Li-mx7uy Před 2 lety +3

    SCAM!!!!!! HOLD schools ACCOUNTABLE!!!!!!

  • @briannebarker6833
    @briannebarker6833 Před 10 měsíci

    He’ll make more money later, the more you pay on principal, the more the interest goes down. Also just a nugget of wisdom, if you even hit the tax bracket of 30% you don’t pay 30% on the whole income. Just the amount per tax bracket ☺️
    Of course it is extreme though yeah, hope the best for this guy.

    • @briannebarker6833
      @briannebarker6833 Před 10 měsíci

      also, he could accept a job that could help him negotiate or pay some of that debt off in addition to his income. My husband did that in his large debt from medical school. Hope he uses his resources wisely!

  • @aqualife88
    @aqualife88 Před 2 lety +1

    I'm graduating undergrad in 1 month and have 30k in loans already 😔 fml

  • @cathy9279
    @cathy9279 Před 2 lety

    Dr c, thank u for this video I am a huge fan of u and Dave Ramsey. I would love your opinion on my situation. I am transitioning from a 20 year career where I have reached max potential at 60k annually. I have been accepted to Med school with a tuition of 200k. I have been verbally assured of a 3 year residency making 60k annually plus 10k paid for family health insurance throughout the residency. Med school plus supplies and 18 months of rent for the first 2 years and interest will be about 300k. If I just stayed in my career 7 years x 60k = 420 income or the school route is 400 cost but after 5 years of work at 200k annual income I should be clear. Beyond all the reasons desiring to pursue Med school, is this a very foolish choice?

    • @pikusarker1359
      @pikusarker1359 Před 2 lety

      How many years will it take for you to pay off all your student loans?plz reply.

    • @cathy9279
      @cathy9279 Před 2 lety +1

      @@pikusarker1359 I’m going to pay 400000 off in 5 years (6700/month)

    • @pikusarker1359
      @pikusarker1359 Před 2 lety

      @@cathy9279 mam how much you will be making as a doctor?

    • @cathy9279
      @cathy9279 Před 2 lety

      @@pikusarker1359 300k

    • @pikusarker1359
      @pikusarker1359 Před 2 lety

      @@cathy9279 mam after tax what will be your take home pay?

  • @dannetteconstantino4692

    If the national average was 3000 patients for every overworked under paid Doctor and that Doc got paid $ 333.33 from that estimate of each his her patients then one could possibly pay off $1 million

    • @dannetteconstantino4692
      @dannetteconstantino4692 Před rokem

      I wonder how his patients would feel if they had to pay it that's only $27.78 a month for 12 months if I was one of them I would not mind paying

  • @harvestingseason2725
    @harvestingseason2725 Před 2 lety

    Doc do u game bro? Sick curved monitor

  • @jennahamrick3.086
    @jennahamrick3.086 Před 2 lety +4

    I would off myself if I was $1 million dollars in debt….I’m $7,000 in debt with school loans and that’s killing me now😭 AND IM STILL IN SCHOOL…….

    • @DrCellini
      @DrCellini  Před 2 lety +1

      Good thing you are a ways away from 1 mil!

  • @Luna_Kirisame
    @Luna_Kirisame Před 2 lety +1

    if yur $1M in student loan debt, you better be a politician, not a doctor.

  • @yahiaosman8938
    @yahiaosman8938 Před 2 lety +2

    Oh my that is a lot, love the scrubs. Can you please give me a shoutout please

  • @elchicano65
    @elchicano65 Před 2 lety +1

    And keep in mind that these "students" are among the best and brightest..give me a break. He could have started a business for a fraction of that amount and purchased a franchise. Wow, the naivete of these people is unbelievable. But remember he is a doctor....

    • @KatieBellino
      @KatieBellino Před 11 měsíci

      I mean, we do need people to go into those fields, so something should be done about the criminally high cost. Also, they become "rich kid" professions because bright, middle class students can't handle the amount of debt.

  • @petertravis4048
    @petertravis4048 Před 2 lety +1

    He made the choices to go into that debt. No tears here.

    • @Li-mx7uy
      @Li-mx7uy Před 2 lety +2

      YOU should blame SCHOOLS

    • @kasa9884
      @kasa9884 Před 2 lety +2

      If you want dentists, orthodontists, maxiofacial surgeons, periodontists, endodontists, and other highly specialized dental and oral medicine professionals to treat your dental/oral health needs or emergencies, then you actually need to confront the dental education and training system that charges exorbitantly high tuition AND doesn't pay dental residents AND charges them more tuition to just receive training.

  • @mariayelruh
    @mariayelruh Před rokem

    Could 'he' be actually including his wife to be's student debt?

  • @jasonb4254
    @jasonb4254 Před 2 lety

    IR makes like 750k to a mill a year so kind of snobby to sneer at the 250k the orthodontist is making man.

    • @kasa9884
      @kasa9884 Před 2 lety +2

      Dr. Cellini is an attending resident, so he's making around $60k right now, and he wasn't sneering at all. He was surprised that a specialty with MORE training isn't being fairly compensated for that additional training. It was the opposite of sneering.
      Next, not all IR make that much- it really varies by location and cases one takes one.

  • @shamrockgirl6595
    @shamrockgirl6595 Před 2 lety

    I 👁 question the orthodontist's:
    😬 level of financial responsibility prior to schooling 🏫
    😬 was he employed or generating any income 💰
    😬 was he taking loan money 💰 out for other expenses [e.g. vacations 🎿 🏂 🏊‍♂️ ⛱ ⛰]
    😬 was he living high on the 🐖 hog with no insight of the consequences?!?
    ONE MILLION! 🙀