Testosterone Boosters: A Better Alternative Than Steroids? Do They Work? Jerry Brainum
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- čas přidán 20. 12. 2022
- On this week’s episode of the Escape Your Limits Podcast, our guest was the science editor of Muscle and Fitness magazine, an editor-at-large for Flex magazine, and a regular contributor to Ironman magazine for 28 years. His articles were the only articles read in bodybuilding magazines by 3-time Mr. Olympia champion, Frank Zane. He is the creator of Applied Metabolics, an in-depth newsletter about food supplements; exercise science; steroids, and much more.
Besides his writing, he has been a nutrition consultant for numerous elite, world-class athletes such as Floyd Mayweather Jr, Oscar de La Hoya, and Vassiliy Jirov. He was also a competitive bodybuilder himself and trained alongside Arnold Schwarzenegger at the original Gold’s gym in Venice, California in the 70s.
Today, he spills nothing but the truth about:
• The biggest mistakes most bodybuilders make
• The myths, truths, pros, and cons of steroids
• And how a lot of safe supplements can have deathly effects
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I always hear this same story: "When you are 30 your testosterone starts to get lower and it really starts to make a difference when you're 40". I've gotten my heaviest lifts in my forties and am still getting better. I've never been using any drugs but I let my body recover from lifting sessions as long as I feel my body requires. Sometimes I have only 2 or 3 heavy sessions per month but I keep getting stronger
Your right it's the fountain of youth
But he is right also
Did he say tongkat was toxic?
I also 38 natty but I coulnt build more muscles for some reason, I had a huge set back after covid lockdowns, lost most my gains, and when I came back to train, I had like 8-9 days recovery time for each muscle group. Got my T tested, was around 400, so I started supplementing with creatine, ashwagandha, macca, protein and collagen, and finally I started building muscle again and even breaking records from pre lockdowns.
likely because you naturally have high levels of testosterone.
@@orion9k did you retest to see if it improved anything significant?
I am 39 and was on TRT for 14 months. But I decided to stop after the clinic I was using raised their rates by four times. Also, I am diagnosed with major depression. Instead of treating a symptom, I decided to treat the sickness.
I had given up booze months before, which was a contributing factor. I reduced chronic stress, focused on sleep, and started breath work, supplemented with herbs like Tongkat Ali, Gotu Kola, and Natabolic by Chemix.
I am more than a month out from my last injection and feel better than when I was on the test. My workouts are better, and my mood, focus, and sex drive are all great.
I am not a doctor, and it may still be early, but my guess is by focusing on every aspect and factor of my condition, I am improving. Instead of focusing on a symptom.
Can you answer a few questions for me mate? What were your levels of test before you went onto trt? What are they now? And if you dont mind what were your stress factors?
@FormulationFactoryUS what do I need to do,
Nice to have an interviewer that dosent interupt every 5 sec well done
yeah buddy 😁
He's too busy sticking to his paper notes
Only person would do that is piers morgan lol
Keep your body fat under control, get 8 hours sleep, train heavy, avoid too much endurance work and you can continue to build and maintain quality muscle into your sixties.
And after??? HRT needed?
@@momentumstocks3493 so far nothing else required. But I wouldn’t rule out HRT at 70 😉
Complex carbs and sugar! Protein, good fats, and fiber!
@@richardacosta1971 Okay professor
Absolutely love listening to Jerry, have alot of time for him 👍👍
Great interview excellent info!
what a great story teller !!
This man is amazing. Love listening to him. Interesting, intelligent, enlightening, and funny.
Always a treat to hear this guy.
Good knowledge! Jerry is very good and such a funny character!
Hi Jerry. Mike Z here. Excellent! You’re amazing. I think you were talking about Pat Arnold, right? Great information.
I keep seeing these comments online about guys testing their testosterone levels. What's the point if nothing or very little has changed from your 20s and 30s? The only real differences I've noticed is that it takes a bit longer to build muscle and burn fat. I also get tired more during the day but that's about it and that's not enough to stop me. Still have rapid facial hair growth, deep voice, intense sex drive, great sexual function and near equal or slightly better strength than I had when I was younger. Eat clean, drink mostly water and stay active. 💪💪
Great stuff Jerry!
Just found your videos very level-headed and formed information thank you for your efforts
Some 1/2 truths, I do respect him & it’s good enough for Gen pop
Interesting interview
Anything with Jerry telling us stuff, is bloody fine by me. He is amazing!
Jerry's great.Thank you.
great guest
what was the recomendation???
What works the best is squats and eating right. Get strong and hit those legs. You'll be amazed.
Anything to work them legs!! I do enjoy doing horse stance in addition to cycling, running and squats. Plus, going out dancing with the lady. Keeps all the essential chemistry flowing
high doses of garlic with olive oil and raw egg yolk
What's that do besides transform you into a human garlic knot
Gracias from Texas 👍
I would really love to see Jerry talking with Arnold.
Arnold was small
Craig Monsoon is someone actually huge. Arnold dodged pictures with that huge guy. Arnold seems token chosen instead of the best
I took some supplements back in the day that had to have had something in them because I was doing sets of shoulder presses with 80 lbs dumbbels at 17 yrs age weighing 155.
I'm beginning to think that you could be right unless we had naturally high testosterone and we're naturally unique
What supplements were they , I can probably tell you about them if I know what you took
@@mitchellferre1652 I took some Twinlab stuff like Nitro Fuel which cost over 60 bucks at the time for a small jug and some type of amino acid pills that were so big and hard like rocks that I had to crush them with a hammer to be able to take them.Then there was Designer Protein or something like that and various other protein powders, weight gainers and creatine I can't remember and some protein pills that I think were made here in Finland.
@@pinkyellowblue007 I remember TwinLabs Nitro Fuel
There was a protein powder back in late 80,s early 90 called Hot Stuff. I remember in just two weeks using it at 15 years old I got ripped, strong, looked night and day different. So I remember I went back to get more and the guy at GNC said that they took it off the market because all the ingredients equals some kind of steroid. So they came out with new and better Hot Stuff so they said 20 extra grams of protein. Stuff didn't do anything! Sorry for the long ass story. I'm getting old
When I was 20 I was on andro and got pretty big. I thought it worked pretty good. I was 5’10 just over 200 lbs and was benching 340. I was a baseball player at the time.
But did that then prevent your body from making its own testosterone? Isn't there permanent damage done to the body in countless cases of taking peds?
@@antmorgan9331 it may have effected it. I was still able to gain muscle after taking them. I had a high sex drive in my 20’s and 30’s. I’m 42 now with 3 kids. I’m probably suffering from low t now just like everyone else however I think modern “food” products and all the chemicals we ingest daily have a greater effect on my t than some PED’s I took 20 years ago. Lots of people take lots of PED’s with minimal side effects if they are managed correctly and lots of pet have had issues with t after taking PED’s. You have to decide your path.
@@wesleyturner1979 well the body from an aging point of view is always naturally in decline. Cardio and resistance training help offset the decline. Or so say the experts. Plus eating good food. Little fat and as few processed foods as possible. We all get older but we can help ourselves along the way with good diet andregular exercise. And less beer. Hic 🍻
@@antmorgan9331 "Low fat" is pseudo science. Healthy fat, and plenty of them, are good for your joints and test levels.
Very interesting 🤔 always learning especially the history of test boosters from Jerry ....sadly the hype is still there for these Boosters which are at beat full of claims they don't match up to but, people still buy them.
It's hilarious so many men say Neugenix works great for them lol. It literally does nothing. You can take 10x the dose and no positive or negative effects
I have used Testosterone over the past 10 years. In the last 2 years I have not used any. Feeling flat and low did bloods and was diagnosed with secondary hypogonadism. The problem is when I started with test enanthate 250mg once a month I experienced severe bloating and a very uncomfortable gut. As soon as I'm done eating I would get very uncomfortable and need ed to use the loo. Moved over to test cypionate, 50mg once a week. Same result. It's almost as though I can't tolerate it internally. I have chatted to my endocrinologist and few other well versed people however nobody seems to understand why or how this happens. Any feedback would be highly appreciated.....🙏
I don't have a solution for that but a carnivore diet
And raw onions every day will help test production
Better outcome than synthetic hormones
This ain't right, you've used test on and off for the past 10 years and are taking 250mg enthanate once a month and was on 50mg of cyp a week. Problem is you need to get proper trt done and you'll probably be on something like 120mg a week. The 1st month of using test there is usually water retention and sometimes inflammation, you could also have a haitial/hiatus hernia
Does taking testosterone reduce natural production?

When a man takes synthetic testosterone, the brain detects the excess and slows or stops production of LH and FSH. That means the body quits producing intratesticular (natural) testosterone, and consequently, production of sperm due to the suppression of LH and FSH. This results in reduced fertility.Jan 6, 2021
Why don't you use 1mm every 4 days. That dosage was discussed on Joe Rogan/Huberman as the body produces that amount, so it's just like using a supplement. I did it and it keeps me straight, of course with hard training to introduce the natural production also
You have used test for 10yrs and then off for 2yrs but can't tolerate it without bloating now ? Constipation too ? Sounds like you have something else going on. I hope you get it figured out. I don't think the test had anything to do with it. Try eliminating all vegetable and seed oils. Use only avocado oils to cook with and olive oil only without being heated. Try carnivore for 90 days. Reduce or eliminate dairy.
I used Androstenedione in my mid forties... that stuff worked as close to the rteal thing as anything I have tried before or sense
It also aromatises easily to oestrogen.
I did too. It was a man made compound. Not a natural test booster. It worked ok. Not great but it did work. That's why it was banned. If any of these other boosters on the market worked they would be banned too.
Did you try a similar compound 19nor androstenediol ? I got shredded on that with proper diet putting in work. I'm not sure if that was what we know now as Superdrol ? Banned but still made and used. That shit is legit gear. High liver toxicity.
@@beachboy_boobybuilder because it was real.
@@beachboy_boobybuilder
So does testosterone
The clear and the cream!
My balls shrink a little after just one cycle of test enathate. Is there any chance to get them back?
jerry is the best
How come you don’t remember the names of the stuff
I love jerry
He's talking about 1-AD that was a great product!😃👍🏿
Love this guy hes like a human google..
any thoughts on Tribulus? there is some anecdotal evidence for this having some effect without boosting testosterone?
Utter garbage, known since they were discovered.
No. Just boost Libido
@@calvinyau8933 I think it also increases semen volume, but don't quote me on that. No increase in testosterone though
I think it works.nobody dont know hiw it technically works but many people exclused me feel the difference.but it needs to be a quality product
Its all garbage and marketing. Supplements are a billion dollar industry. End story.
is there any natural way to increase the luteinizing hormone? i am 38 and n been lifting weights for almost a year, cant seem to increase the weights and there is no real improvement. though i feel amazing compared to times i am not working out. not married no kids yet.... never taken any supplement or steroids. Also lost like 30 kg in past 2 years. but still want to build muscles. thanks
HCG
Serms like clomid and nolvadex also increase LH fast
What's the thing with the papers all the time?. You could just prepare
Or,,, if you don’t take too high a dose on trt , 25 mg at most a day ( a young muscular guy makes between 9-12 mg a day ) then there’s no reason to worry about side effects, remember this is for a trt dose not huge muscular gains .
How to take TRT therapy without side effects ?
HCG let’s you make more test naturally correct?
This doc is amazing 🦾🦾🦾
i have a question i am 59 years old , ihad my testorone test (blood test) by a doctor. he said it was 1000%. hesaid i was the top . does that mean for my age group. what does it mean. i am still develop not like when i was young
I would take a test again. Preferably a different test and a different doctor. This time getting a real number and not "1000% at the top".
you might have 1000% of a 300 low testosterone 😮
@@zacharyshort384that's code for your insurance doesnt cover it and we know you're too cheap to pay for TRT. 10000% top g 😂😂😂
I think Jerry wanted to say the creator was Patrick Arnold.
Damn the days of 1-Andro and 4-Andro...
HCG works wonders...
and is stupid pricey hah
Lmao dude said *Sammy Soosa*
Save your money. Test is the best. All the so called supplements are a waste of money 💰 😒
Links?
@Bgoodorhell 4U lol 😆 I would like a surgeon to install one Grizzly bear testicle in place of my two. I bet I'd become the new Arnie!
Yep👍
@@ciaranbyrne62 who about one of ape and other one of bull🤣🤣
@@custerd29 😆 maybe
Designer drugs is what some call them there just other analogs never released
Tonkat Ali doesn’t work for everyone, the side effects are head ache , high BP and a general feeling like shit for me, perhaps it’s different with other people. I took best quality Malaysian TA so I know the supplements are good but found it very disappointing
What was your dosage and how long did you take it?
Any other supps on board [including vits/minerals]?
Light headache or migraine level head ache?
great to see jerry outside his dark lair
Imagine a society where average men have very low testosterone.....
Lol it’s here ☹️
Mask wearers
Works very well.
McGuire was definitely taking something, if you remember, he put on some serious weight and muscle in a yr! To much muscle and weight to increase in suck a short time that’s would be impossible with any normal supplements!
Yea he was roided up , andro was like an added multi vitamin to him lol , he was built like an offensive lineman, Jose Canseco also admitted to steroids .
Why is Anavar being kept from the public? If someone breaks their leg they should be prescribed it!!
Liver damage
All steroids give something
All steroids take something.
I took Androstenedione in the late 90s, and as a result, my testicles shrunk. Also, the volume of ejaculation I emitted when coming went wayyyyy down, and this was while I was taking this product.
Yup, you took it with a supplement that inhibited estrogen. I'm sure McGwire was wise to the protocol. I know dozens of guys who got huge, got shrunken balls, got back acne, and bad livers taking it up until it was banned.
I heard it shrinks your balls but your dong grows bigger. Is this 🧢 or facts? Asking for a homey.
ErgoPharm 1-Ad WAS THE BEST... I had every intention of buying a case of it before the ban went into effect but had family tragedy right before totally slipped my mind to stock up I wish so much I could get that stuff again
Also IMO and experience young guys taking this stuff Im not surprised if "noticed no real gains/effects" youre young body is doing its thing and youre more than likely shutting it down prematurely!! I think my taking all these different boosters and gainers when I was young a VERY long time ago is the cause of my problems now. I think they shut my system off that by the time I was in my 30's I felt like I was 50 suffering from all kinds of injuries and then when I hit 40 man they werent kidding it just drops!!
I remember when I was abt 17 taking some test booster or something and had great gains. Told a fitness guy I knew with a radio show abt it he smiled, "worked good? They were putting Test in it!"
1-Ad was amazing!
When I tell you 1-ad was awesome. Took this stuff back in early 2000,s and was as stolen as I'd ever been. Glad u reminded me of this stuff I had forgotten the name
Diet and exercise keep testosterone levels up, even into your 50s and 60s
They do work actually.
This is a repost
15:05 wait what...?
I had amazing results using fadogia and tongkat ali. It's very natural. To be honest, my results scare the shit out of me. I'll be 47 years old this year. The first thing I noticed was my ballz started getting bigger, and so did my loads. I was horny as hell. Then I noticed my gym gains were noticeably improved. I cycle 4 weeks on, 1-2 weeks off. I've been using it for 3 months now, but I noticed a difference after just 3 days of usage. I just hope it doesn't get shat on by the FDA.
Where do u find this? I don’t trust buying this online. End up getting something shady
@@junkmail6992 the only way to get it is buying online. Your very uneducated about how things work...
@@Seyiu. Yeah I guess ur the genius, right? I found them at the local organic grocery store. So online only?
Online has a lot of unscrupulous vendors selling counterfeit imported crap. That’s why I’m asking. But I guess ur too smart to realize that.
@@junkmail6992 have you seen lab results for your so called organic store bought supplements big guy?
@@Seyiu. It can’t b any worse that some online retailer based out of who knows where.
that’s why I was inquiring. U said u used it so I asked. That’s simple but u started talking trash.
Boron?
Roger Maris
I wonder why Jerry didn't just say the word Prohormone when describing the second type of test booster
Patrick Arnold dude
Bruce Willis is a great actor, even if he play in CZcams interview
ive tried all the main brand high price test boosters, all worked for a bit then would crash my T, now i blast cruise test primo (tren) but small dose tren 110mg week max, anavar, ive never felt better, two hour boneons on command, wife thinks im a porn star now
Link please🙏
all UGL stuff mate, got accepted into a private trt clinic but decided £120 a month for a bottle of test that cost £20 from an ugl was a no brainer to go ugl, just do bloods every 6 months and donate blood every 3
@@ciaranbyrne62 ya a link 🔗 👍
@@redarmy1778 I'd be careful with all of that gear buddy especially since they from ugls. Don't want to end up like Bostin Lloyd. Nobody who blasts that much gear lives that long. The perk of the 120 a month TRT clinic test is you aren't committing a crime and you have doctors at least pretending to look after you. Last but not least you want to be a porn star to your wife and not at a prison. 😂
@@jeffreypetree7163 😂
Disappointing video. The host does not mention the guest name and not in the description. Then cuts him off at the end with one out of three points he was making. Information was great though.
Are the forced boosters toxic?
The old ErgoPharm 1-AD put 93 pounds on me and I was gorilla strong.
93lbs? No way that one product alone did that. You big 🧢
@@NYCDurrani not cap! Look the original up. It was dirt cheap(24 dollars a bottle). It was on the market for about a year or so and then it got pulled. I had to drive three hours to get it at a MUSCLE MAG store. Had to get it as soon as it came in because within the day of arrival Penn State football strength and conditioning department would buy the two skids of it. Was early 2000s. It was huge in underground gyms and powerlifting gyms. I don’t know what was actually in it, all I know is myself and thousands of others know it worked ridiculously well.
Tongkat really works guys👌🏽
Wbich brand do you buy bro?
We can cut him some slack, he's obviously not a baseball fan. Mark McGwire and Sammy Sosa (pronounced So Suh, not Sue Suh) were chasing Roger Maris's home run record of 61 set in 1961.
I'm glad I watched all the way through, as they talked about TRT. I will be 60 this year and have been looking into TRT, and I have been told if you follow a doctor's advice and do blood work, it is a great idea for men over 50. One thing I have not heard from any of the people / companies promoting TRT is the fact you will shut your body's production of testosterone down, and you will need TRT for the rest of your life. That's a no from me, thanks...
Anavar is the fountain of youth but so hard to get.
I’m looking at the same thing. You have to think though, if your body isn’t producing enough of them anyway, you’re not going to have enough either way.
@@wesleyturner1979 True. I haven't had my test levels checked yet, so unless I am verified as having low levels, I don't think I'm going to try TRT.
Sounds like a lot of people in the comments have no idea about how to use and eat plus train... well if you want to know how to do it there's a key to it all the key isn't the roids BTW ;) I wonder who can tell me what the key to gaining is
The key is clapping Cobras moms cheeks after hitting the gym. You don't believe me, try it yourself. You'll get 2% T boost if you go ballz deep in the culo
Ashgawhanda and turkesterone. Fadiotia will give you crazy anxiety unless you are taking beta blockers.
This guy is just Rambling on ...full of hot air .Get straight to the point
Do boosters work? Maybe 1 or 2%. Does testosterone injection work? You bet your muscular butt they do
All of those supps might raise your test 20 to 30 percent!!! They are a waste of your money!!! Go to your doctor and get tested!!! TRT is the way to go!!! Mine went from 96 to 600
Do you have to do it for the rest of your life? What happens when your old af like 80, you still gotta get it or do you have to get off at some point and then suffer massive drop off in t and end up depressed and weak af? Serious question
@@NYCDurraniJust dont do it trust me
Mark..bonds..and Sammy were taking more than those boosterd..my god don't be stupid
Can you explain the protein in the '89 called hot stuff that really made you increase in muscle weight and strength. Did it had anabolic steroids...?
Yes , I took it back in the day ( and it was amazing ) it got reformulated and got nothing from the new formula, after doing some research it turns out there WAS an oral steroid put into the formula, I can’t remember what the name of it was , it’s out there if you do some digging.
My test level is 780 im 31 and have trouble gaining weight 🥴
780 is plenty to gain muscle. Diet, protien, rest and consistency. You will gain.
Add some creatine and up your protein. Clean protein like eggs, protein shakes (low or no sugar), meats, etc you will gain weight. 💯
Taco Bell, Dorritos, Pizza, Mac N Cheese. Smoke pot to increase appetite so you can eat more pizza. I can offer other tips for weight gain :D
lift to failure low reps, low sets, rest 4 days, don't skip squats day.
I’m able to get Tongkat Ali in raw form and grind it fresh.
How long can tongkat ali raise testosterone? And do you see effects after taking it ?
Thks in advance
@@polduran there’s no general answer - in my case, i felt Tongkat ali immediately and been taking for a few years, I’m 58 and I’m pleased, others report varied affects, try it and see how you respond.
@@offthechainfitness Ok thank you very much for your feedback 👍
@@offthechainfitness Can Tongkat Ali be taken with alcohol?
@@fearnobodyandtrustnoone i don’t know, what comes to mind is alcohol is known to decrease testosterone - i don’t know your case, but for instance, if I consumed alcohol regularly I would cut back first to see - furthermore alcohol interrupts sleep which in turn may affect testosterone so look into what taking alcohol with an herb means to you 🙏
I took a product called 19nor diol, I got a good slimming effect from it, some strength gain.
What about DHEA?
What about it?
Somebody needs to tell Jerry that Mark admitted to using steroids.
Just do TRT! Its worth it, if you need it!
Once you do it, you're stuck on it for life.
The nwo is 4 life
Or just do everything naturally. The only think I take is a whey supplement and I’ve been on Creatine …just train and eat healthier 💯👍🏻
All that, 8 hours of sleep per night, zinc selenium and tongat and fedogia help along with boron. I am now in the sub 10 range and these things do make a huge difference if you are in a huge cut. Can’t stress it enough. You won’t notice if you are eating at maintenance but I have a lot to say about these. Along with BPC 157. A game changer for tendon issues and helps with sleep. A supplement is just that. A supplement. No replacement for bad diet and lack of sleep. But I do agree with you for the most part but I would sub out the whey protein for steaks. Shakes can’t match the real food unless you travel a lot with no choice.
Fenugreek is an excellent aromatase inhibitor. Clinically proven by Texas medical school, faculty of sport science. Improved free T by average of 17%. Take 600mg freshly ground fenugreek daily.
@@MrGflan how do you counter copper deficiency? Is there something to watch out for relating to selenium? Why are these 2 so essential?
@@Seyiu. I forgot where I read that zinc and selenium go good together. So I took them at the same time usually. I admit I am also not sure about Cooper deficiency. There are lots of things you can without them, or you can get them from your foods. I just know that zinc helps with testosterone so I’ve always taken it. I should get my blood work done to see what that looks like. But I think the fedogia and tongat Ali helped a lot with testosterone as I feel much better then I normally would when on lower calories. So something is helping.
@@MrGflan oh for sure bro. Tongkat and fadogia are G. I give them to my dad around morning time. 10-12am and it keeps him going all day if he doesn’t eat and it’s even better when he does eat. 😂 says he feels young again.
Spoiler alert, They dont.
My thing is.. how do humans even know all this??
But protein supplements are good surely?
If you need the extra protein then yeah :)
Are there benefits to a 62 yr old guy taking Androgel on the thighs every day? Testosterone number is high 300’s….
Probably a shorter lifespan
If test booster snake oil worked then pros would be using them, at least during or after pct or on cruise. But nobody does use it that knows what they are doing. It's like the guy who buys a tool belt and all the gadgets from Home Depot , gets home and calls a contractor lol
They do use them after cycle, what do you think post cycle Rich Piana is, bloody Testo booster does anybody do there homework out there.lm 54 done anabolic steroids I've done pro hormones and finish on SARMs 4 years ago ,all good but there comes a time when you can't use gear any more.Because eventually after using gear your blood pressure increases and gear doesn't produce good cholesterol it creatsybad cholesterol so I've educated you now.
@Kevin Harrison 🤣🤣🤣 If RP sold a pst product called bloody testo booster it was for $. I guarantee 100% nobody who knows what they are doing is using natural test boosters for pct. It's called Nolvadex, HcG, Clomid , cruise
@@kevinharrison2394 tell that to Arnold, Stallone, The Rock lol
@@mitchellferre1652 lf you stack up ur dose of juice to maximum safe dose then pyrimid down slowly reducing dose slowly therefore allowing nature testosterone to recover you would need a pct in the first place.But hay you do what you thinks best.
@Kevin Harrison I never did a pct in my 20s just blast. 30s and 40s were blast and cruise. Now 50s and cruise for life. Never any pct . Tried it all except for tren and halo. 😇
Does he remember anything?
*I just finished a 3 month cycle of Fadogia, Tongkat Ali with Aronia berries and other forms of the highest antioxidants and micronutrients for protection.* The natural test boosters have given me phenomenal gains and endurance with ZERO SIDE EFFECTS! Granted that I never did steroids or any of that other toxic stuff that ruins my liver, kidneys, and gonades. So, in other words, my testosterone didn't bottom out, I'm still running strong doing another herbal cycle! With the basic understanding of biochemistry and biology, from college courses, I know how to anecdotally dosage, diet, and add additional micronutrients to counteract any potential side effects.
In addition, I also know that herbs take the natural pathways of the body's hormonal system while drugs (synthetic t-boosters, sarms, or steroids, etc), especially steroids bypass certain pathways. Quick note, when you take things that bypass the body's natural pathways, it results in side effects. Not to say that herbal supplements don't, but it truly depends on one's understanding of how to eat and take the right antioxidant to block and protect oneself against any potential harm. Moreover, when it comes to building muscle and health, it's best to think long term and not short-term. Those who are in the rush to gain massive muscles often risk their health in the process. Like a major side effect of steroids is impotence and organ damage or death. I recommend training for health and longevity - *life is a marathon and not a sprint!*
Thanks for u Sharing your exeriences and knowlege...
Excellent advice, can you possibly link me a break down of your stack, supplements & dosage breakdown of everything you did or would do.
I’ve used Tongkat Ali about a year ago for 3 months & I did notice some gains & energy increase but I would like to try it again with more in my regimen.
Thanks
A breakdown of your stack would be great
Consider me interested in your details too please
This all sounds great but you got any numbers to back these claims up? Blood tests before and afters showing original Test, Free Test and even IGF-1 then after? 😂🤷♂ I'm not doubting you may have received some gains including some potentially from a placebo effect and potentially from your natural physiology, but I've heard of nobody running herbal cycles. 💯
plenty of half truths, the branium way ...to this day defends geared up golden era greats ...
Rics corner 2 doug brignoli 2
Jerrry brainum.....the greats!....forget about my spellling
No.
UH UH UH testosterone UH UH UH UH
Jesus man try and reduce the UH 😅
Simple answer is no!!!
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