Are Protein Supplements Necessary to Grow Muscle? | Jerry Brainum

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  • čas přidán 16. 11. 2022
  • On this week’s episode of the Escape Your Limits Podcast, our guest was the science editor of Muscle and Fitness magazine, an editor-at-large for Flex magazine, and a regular contributor to Ironman magazine for 28 years. Jerry Brainum's articles were the only articles read in bodybuilding magazines by 3-time Mr. Olympia champion, Frank Zane. He is the creator of Applied Metabolics, an in-depth newsletter about food supplements; exercise science; steroids, and much more.
    Besides his writing, he has been a nutrition consultant for numerous elite, world-class athletes such as Floyd Mayweather Jr, Oscar de La Hoya, and Vassiliy Jirov. He was also a competitive bodybuilder himself and trained alongside Arnold Schwarzenegger at the original Gold’s gym in Venice, California in the 70s.
    Today, he spills nothing but the truth about:
    • The biggest mistakes most bodybuilders make
    • The myths, truths, pros, and cons of steroids
    • And how a lot of safe supplements can have deathly effects
    To learn more about Applied Metabolics, click here! www.appliedmetabolics.com/
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Komentáře • 125

  • @ethanbrunt7755
    @ethanbrunt7755 Před rokem +33

    This guy is the yoda of bodybuilding, tremendous knowledge and experience

  • @jayhughes4956
    @jayhughes4956 Před rokem +41

    Never knew about him and I’ve been training and competing since 1992. I’ve listened and studied all the experts. This gentleman is very educated and refreshingly honest 🙏❤️

    • @MrRaitzi
      @MrRaitzi Před rokem +9

      Trained with Arnold. Science editor of Muscle and Fitness magazine for 10 years; editor-at-large at Flex magazine for 8 years. Written for Men’s Fitness magazine; Sports Fitness magazine; Muscular Development magazine; Muscle Mag International, and a regular contributor to Ironman magazine for 28 years

    • @georgeton4991
      @georgeton4991 Před měsícem +2

      @@MrRaitzi Muscle & Fitness mags were a good read back in the 1990s. Jerry Brainum comes across very knowledgeable.

  • @albertfigueroa11
    @albertfigueroa11 Před rokem +12

    This man knows his stuff it comes natural on his knowledge that he is naturally educated on everything .. He will break it down n knows the history in everything no second guessing he knows his shit 💯💯

  • @ClassicBodybuildingArchives

    More Jerry please...thank you for posting. Peace, Sal

  • @paddy3622
    @paddy3622 Před rokem +40

    this guy is great. his honesty is refreshing.

  • @paulocapelas2881
    @paulocapelas2881 Před rokem +6

    Jerry is still one of the biggest references

  • @knw-seeker6836
    @knw-seeker6836 Před rokem +6

    Love it to listen To Jerry simplifying down nutrition and sport science

  • @hotstepper7043
    @hotstepper7043 Před rokem

    Thank u very very much. High quality content and both really nice human beings and nice to listen to 🎉🎉🎉

  • @apothe6
    @apothe6 Před 9 měsíci +2

    I've been watching Jerry's channel for years, really happy seeing him getting big screen time on bigger fitness chanells.

  • @dorisbest7580
    @dorisbest7580 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Thank you very much ,veryinteresting intrview and great advice!

  • @Campbell1.
    @Campbell1. Před 11 měsíci

    The quality of all these videos is excellent

  • @rg3412
    @rg3412 Před rokem +4

    This Jeff Brainum guy is a gold mine of information

  • @kennethbreland9812
    @kennethbreland9812 Před 11 měsíci +2

    I follow everything this guys says. He’s so knowledgeable about the science of building muscle.

  • @stefanweilhartner4415
    @stefanweilhartner4415 Před rokem +2

    for me there is a limit of stomach acid and digestive enzymes. this is the reason why i get too tired and hunger is coming too soon again.
    after taking betaine hcl + pepsin, the protein is getting broken down in amino acids better in my case and these amino acids then get absorbed and result in lowering hunger as they should.

  • @RajB92J
    @RajB92J Před rokem

    Very knowledgeable person. All said all the facts.

  • @adrianbarrera385
    @adrianbarrera385 Před 10 měsíci +1

    What are your recommendations for the best isolate whey protein?

  • @nysurdatu5012
    @nysurdatu5012 Před rokem +30

    As a teenager in the late 80’s , guys in gym were taking egg protein powder and then Joe Weider protein became big . I asked old time strong man about the powders and he said just drink milk .

    • @fgk9397
      @fgk9397 Před rokem

      Drink milk for what? If you are looking for protein you would need to drink a few gallons a day...secondly milk isn't for humans.

    • @aa.4639
      @aa.4639 Před rokem +4

      I was in the martial arts 15 years ago. Brutal training. Nobody ate protein in powders.

    • @rjskum688
      @rjskum688 Před rokem

      Protien powders are just fast and convenient. Nothing more nothing less. It's not a steroid that's gonna make you grow over night. It's just another way to meet your Protien requirements.

    • @bobdobric6787
      @bobdobric6787 Před rokem +1

      Protein powder doesnt do anything absolutely nothing .
      Its heated at high temperatures which destroys whatever milk protein it had and you end up with a platic tub of powder with no nutritional value .
      Its the biggest bodybuilding supplement scam and people are still falling for it 😒

    • @rjskum688
      @rjskum688 Před rokem

      @@bobdobric6787 lmao. Good one.

  • @kierredestiny2
    @kierredestiny2 Před rokem +5

    Now this was very informative! ***checks all my containers of protein*****

  • @solmma
    @solmma Před rokem +3

    wondeful information!!!!

  • @carterhayes4624
    @carterhayes4624 Před rokem +2

    Just checked my protein jug and down at the bottom it says “We do not amino spike”. Learn something new everyday day

  • @heavybrandpodcast
    @heavybrandpodcast Před rokem +1

    Informative video clip 💡

  • @JohnHamer1977
    @JohnHamer1977 Před 11 měsíci +1

    What are the whey protein powders that don’t contain the added amino acid’s? Is MyProtein or Bulk powders any good?

  • @stewartpagano1571
    @stewartpagano1571 Před rokem +1

    That’s fascinating

  • @brendanjohanson5958
    @brendanjohanson5958 Před rokem

    Thank you

  • @nelsonbenjamin4754
    @nelsonbenjamin4754 Před rokem

    That's why I used Sam Busas super protein which was simply casein

  • @orion9k
    @orion9k Před rokem +2

    So uhm... How do we know if the whey is pure? Just by buying ISO Whey? Is there a certain amino acid profile I should go for?

  • @FENIXMetalBand
    @FENIXMetalBand Před rokem

    Jarry is just amazing huge fans long time ago

  • @Piccolo_Re
    @Piccolo_Re Před 8 měsíci

    As a hardgainer I take amino acids pre workout and pre meals. My muscles really don’t get much bigger ever but their output does increase almost on a regular basis.

  • @RobinMuirhead
    @RobinMuirhead Před rokem +2

    Wow informative

  • @HackHunter1835
    @HackHunter1835 Před rokem +4

    Designer Whey Protein was the best of the best back in the day.

  • @robertbaindourov134
    @robertbaindourov134 Před 9 měsíci

    I love this guy!!!

  • @stephenwalker5253
    @stephenwalker5253 Před rokem +2

    I was just about to buy my first tub of protein powder, im so glad i watched this first because i was about to buy one with the amino acids, well sir.

  • @andrewcunningham1361
    @andrewcunningham1361 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Anyone got a quality brand of whey they can recommend please

  • @roadstar499
    @roadstar499 Před rokem +2

    As far as protein that can be taken in for a person for each meal has to vary... All people are different sizes and some just lay around while other bust ass 24/7...makes no sense that all adults can only digest 30 grams of protein per meal... bigger guys that workout and work harder need more protein to stay strong and fit....

  • @michelrood2966
    @michelrood2966 Před rokem

    Joe Weiders protein was incredibly tasty, and Mega mass 2000. That stuff was addictive !

  • @southern842
    @southern842 Před měsícem

    Is liquid aminos good?

  • @cdmorrissy3692
    @cdmorrissy3692 Před 10 měsíci

    I take the main 5 Amino acids, Creatine and a good multivitamin daily. I'm 66 and in excellent health; fit and loaded with energy. I've been a fan of vitamins my whole life,
    and I firmly believe in them.

  • @nelsonbenjamin4754
    @nelsonbenjamin4754 Před rokem

    I still like and want the natural flavorless Nitro whey

  • @AhatiMaat
    @AhatiMaat Před rokem

    Where is the full interview video or is this it?

  • @phoenixrisin2269
    @phoenixrisin2269 Před 10 měsíci

    CFM or 100% hydrolyzed fractions 💪

  • @nelsonbenjamin4754
    @nelsonbenjamin4754 Před rokem

    Straight nitro whey nothing added is best

  • @thegahd
    @thegahd Před rokem

    I love how he just went totally off track explaining the entire history of whey protein supplements

  • @howardmenkes2926
    @howardmenkes2926 Před 8 měsíci

    I just tried mixing vanilla protein powder with heavy cream. Took one sip and poured to disgusting mess out!

  • @RoidfreeSenior
    @RoidfreeSenior Před rokem +15

    who knew the story of Whey protein could be so fascinating

  • @petegodfrey5735
    @petegodfrey5735 Před 13 dny

    I hope you guys will answer my earlier question...

  • @daytonasayswhat9333
    @daytonasayswhat9333 Před rokem +8

    I wouldn’t agree that it’s “irrelevant” where you get your protein. Protein quality matters.

    • @bryceherring946
      @bryceherring946 Před rokem +1

      Very much agreed, where you get your protein from and the quality could be one of the most important factors, this is the problem when he and others simply lump everything into one category of Protein.
      High quality animal based protein, otherwise called meat, especially red meat is not the same thing as someone consuming Greek yogurt and hummus but still pointing out that both are "Protein", people who really want to focus on protein quality need to focus on high quality animal meat.

    • @LGTVQHD
      @LGTVQHD Před rokem +4

      Sorry for you if you don't get what he meant. Pretty much everyone who knows him understands what he meant.

    • @daytonasayswhat9333
      @daytonasayswhat9333 Před rokem +2

      @@LGTVQHD I’m sorry about your face.

    • @TheBatugan77
      @TheBatugan77 Před rokem

      ​@@daytonasayswhat9333
      🖕😀🖕

  • @ScreamingEagleFTW
    @ScreamingEagleFTW Před rokem

    isnt the purpose of cardio to burn bodyfat? so why take aminos if the body will just use them during cardio?

    • @Ve-suvius
      @Ve-suvius Před rokem +2

      For heart health I think.
      To get low bodyfat is being good at your intake of food.

  • @Jeffthedude15
    @Jeffthedude15 Před rokem

    There is a limit of how much protein will be used to build muscle. Depending on carb intake some protein will be used for energy and the rest can be stored as fat. If it's been wasted off in the urine that can be problematic.

    • @walden6272
      @walden6272 Před 9 měsíci

      How can protein be stored as fat?? Protein and fat are too completely different molecules. That's like saying you can store oranges as apples.

    • @Jeffthedude15
      @Jeffthedude15 Před 9 měsíci

      @@walden6272And carbohydrate isn't a different molecule? Too much Carbohydrate can be stored as fat. The idea is that carbs as well as protein cause the production of insulin. However I am happy you challenged my comment because I've found that there are no studies to support my theory. It has been stated that excess protein can be stored as fat but that probably isn't true. If someone is totally inactive ingesting 5x their body weight then maybe but then again maybe not.

    • @walden6272
      @walden6272 Před 9 měsíci

      @@Jeffthedude15 Just do your research on this topic, why protein cannot transform into fat. Yes carbohydrate can become fat, they are similar in constructions. Fat is stored energy and carbohydrate is energy.

    • @Jeffthedude15
      @Jeffthedude15 Před 9 měsíci

      @@walden6272 I should research macros on a molecular level if that is what you mean. What I'm stuck on I guess is how the body responds to each. If you're not getting enough of either carbs or fat for energy the human body will use protein as an energy source which degrades it's use in protein synthesis.

    • @walden6272
      @walden6272 Před 9 měsíci

      @@Jeffthedude15 You're going off on the wrong topic there. The topic was can protein be converted to fat. And the answer is NO. No matter how much protein you consume, it will not convert to body fat (scientifically impossible). That is why when survivalists who can only eat rabbits, still continue to lose weight despite how much they eat. If your body only consume protein, you will still starve to death. When your body breaks down its own muscles protein, it just a sign of starvation, it doesn't really help the body.

  • @110machinist5
    @110machinist5 Před rokem +10

    nice to see jerry brainum in a decent setting other than his cave

  • @johntaylor5288
    @johntaylor5288 Před rokem

    Hold on, "Some scientist along the way discovered whey, and whey goes way back", and then there's a Jon Jon Park look alike sitting in the background. You guys are having too much fun.

  • @davidcoomber4050
    @davidcoomber4050 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Jerry eats scientific white papers for fun , he knows every double blind study and trial ever done as a hobby , he has forgotten more than most will ever know , amazing guy

  • @charleswind8298
    @charleswind8298 Před 11 měsíci

    If your having Kidney issues it’s best to avoid all that protein.

  • @turbosupra2jzdragracingtob249
    @turbosupra2jzdragracingtob249 Před 10 měsíci

    Excess protein can diminish kidney function.

  • @mag4926
    @mag4926 Před 8 měsíci +1

    If the man in the blue shirt thinks he knows so much, then why do i think he looks unhealthy and unathletic?
    For me that's not a contradiction, but that's just my opinion...
    Anything i get from *natural* foods is enough for me.
    Nothing artificial goes into my body!

    • @kurakuson
      @kurakuson Před 4 měsíci

      I try to avoid RoungUp too.

  • @nikdi5743
    @nikdi5743 Před 8 měsíci

    Taking supplemental protein regularly is expensive

  • @johnmorgan7989
    @johnmorgan7989 Před měsícem

    Im sure youve heard this before but you look uncannily like lance armstrong

  • @chrisarp4111
    @chrisarp4111 Před rokem

    If you do a deep dive of molecular biology you will find that you can grow muscle with enough amino acids to sustain life. That’s not a huge amount of protein.

  • @handsforwarrodneymorgan2616

    The 32g myth was started by Bill Philips to sell his product "myoplex" back in the 90s.

    • @daytonasayswhat9333
      @daytonasayswhat9333 Před rokem +1

      Why was the cap at 32 mg?

    • @sharkymoon422
      @sharkymoon422 Před rokem +4

      @@daytonasayswhat9333 To basically say eating a big steak was useless past the 32g of protein limit, basically bringing in the importance of protein shakes because getting 200g of protein was impossible without!.. Obviously the old school bodybuilder never took shakes because they ate big steaks!

    • @handsforwarrodneymorgan2616
      @handsforwarrodneymorgan2616 Před rokem +1

      @@daytonasayswhat9333 Philips misrepresented the study mr. Brainum spoke of to sell his myoplex product. It had exactly 32g. Of protein. Then if you tell a lie long enough,it becomes "percieved knowledge" amongst casual gym goers.

    • @daytonasayswhat9333
      @daytonasayswhat9333 Před rokem

      @@handsforwarrodneymorgan2616 why market it with 32 g of protein? Why not just market it with 64 g and sell it for twice the price? I don’t really understand what trick is trying to be pulled here.

    • @handsforwarrodneymorgan2616
      @handsforwarrodneymorgan2616 Před rokem +3

      @@daytonasayswhat9333
      So you will need to drink 3 to 4 of these drinks daily. They sold them in 20 serving boxes for $40.
      So most gym bros bought a box a week. Simple marketing and math. More money,more money,more money.

  • @briankregg6329
    @briankregg6329 Před 11 měsíci

    Excess will be stored as fat

  • @larslarsen8837
    @larslarsen8837 Před rokem

    If you take aminoasset before Træning you miss you straight

  • @JEDIAL9
    @JEDIAL9 Před rokem

    *And that explains how I got massive from learning how to create my own protein shake over the powdered synthetics!* _People really don't get how extremely easy it is to make your own 100% all natural protein shake with all natural ingredients!_

  • @daytonasayswhat9333
    @daytonasayswhat9333 Před rokem +2

    No. Obviously.

  • @03redrubi
    @03redrubi Před 8 měsíci

    Eat steak and eggs, and be done with it!!!

  • @mcampbell10777
    @mcampbell10777 Před rokem +1

    buy hormone free protein powder bypass all the nonsense spoke about.

  • @roadstar499
    @roadstar499 Před rokem

    Hell know... 3 good meals per day ... maybe 4 if you are really active

    • @ItsSolarzzz
      @ItsSolarzzz Před rokem

      You don’t rly need protein powder if you consume a fair amount of protein in your daily life, that’s good eblugh

  • @mbrum3230
    @mbrum3230 Před rokem +1

    Lol this guy stuck in 1980

  • @stillhere7193
    @stillhere7193 Před rokem +1

    This guy know nothing

  • @Cuisinenomade1
    @Cuisinenomade1 Před 9 měsíci

    He is loosing it... and preaching old and outdated information. He stopped learning the day he thought there was "nobody else with more experience and knowledge" than him.

    • @user-pr2qw5ep3o
      @user-pr2qw5ep3o Před měsícem

      I disagree about Jerry, he is very well written and informed

  • @craig4867
    @craig4867 Před rokem +1

    None of us big guys use protein powder! We all eat real food and a lot of it and not something out of a container!

  • @iandalzell9528
    @iandalzell9528 Před rokem

    👍

  • @VeinyDickTracy
    @VeinyDickTracy Před rokem

    Jerry was wrong about how many grams of protein to take per LB of body weight 🤦🏻‍♂️
    I saw Vegan Gains post the research in 1 of his videos. It’s a HALF gram of protein per lb of body weight.
    Steroid body builders say to take 1 gram of protein per lb of body weight.
    You’re welcome

    • @bgate1984
      @bgate1984 Před rokem +1

      That’s not what he said . He said ,”1.2 -2.2 grams per kilogram of body weight “
      So the lower end of this scale (the 1.2 grams per kilo) is around half a gram per pound (maybe slightly over by a bawhair )
      You’re welcome

    • @Titoroski187
      @Titoroski187 Před rokem

      ​@@bgate1984 he butchered the delivery so it got a bit confusing