Better Audio for Streaming - Movo VXR10 Mic
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- čas přidán 22. 07. 2024
- Step by step how to set up an external mic to work with your laptop. In this case, the Movo VXR10. And some basic audio knowledge to help you understand how your current setup may be lacking.
And here are some timestamps so you can more easily pick a portion you want to view more quickly.
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
00:56 What the Movo VXR10 sounds like
1:06 Pros of the VXR10
1:41 Cons of the VXR10
2:30 Differences in types of mics for online meetings
3:06 Airpods quality example
4:30 Equipment and supplies to hook up Movo VXR10 to Laptop
6:53 Proper Placement
7:57 Setup the equipment
10:12 Beware of feedback! And does this matter with Meeting Software?
11:07 Use the Windscreen?
11:30 Set up your Mac to use the Mic properly
12:49 Set up your Windows PC to use the Mic properly
13:48 Setup Zoom (meeting software) to use mic
16:09 Last checks of software and computer
17:17 Keyboard volume controls
17:48 Second option for setup using a Microphone Arm
18:19 Closing and recap
18:58 Last minute tips
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I don't understand why this video has so few views. It's absurd. I watched hundreds of videos trying to solve my dilemma. I want good audio for my online classes, but don't want a big mic covering my mouth, a huge setup taking a lot of desk space, a lavalier picking noise from everywhere or an awkward headset. Also I don't have a huge budget for a fancy Rode... I think my situation is very common and yet your video was the only one to exactly provide the mic I needed. Thank you so much for you work, man. It's people like you who take the time to create great videos, despite not having that many subscribers, who make CZcams such a great platform.
Hi there. Thank you so much! I'm very glad this video helped you. When I made it I was also just in the same boat....needing a mic that didn't break the bank and that worked (with some mods). I still use my VXR10 in this fashion for some work calls when my Rode is at home. It's a great budget-option! Good luck to you :)
@@MarcusHutsell thanks for your reply. I just have one question: if the mic is pointed correcly to pick my voice, does it also pick a lot of keyboard and mouse noise? Sometimes I need to type things during a class and I don't want to make it very obvious.
I think the mic I really want it just doesn't exist, so this mic + quiet keyboard may be the closest thing.
@@__eee__ Very good point, and I talk about that in various videos (maybe not this video), but, yeah, if a mic is mounted above you and pointed down, it's going to pick up things around you.....like your keyboard. So, occasionally I'll mount my mic low and point it up and that can help a bit with some keyboard noise, but certainly doesn't completely solve the problem, depending on the loudness of the keyboard clicks. Also, I use Apple computer keyboards most of the time, and those keyboards are fairly quiet. If you're using a mechanical keyboard that has really loud clicks-and-clacks....then, there's not much you can do about it. But I prefer the shallower Apple-style keyboards anyway, so that helps in the noise-department. Keep in mind if you mount the mic low, you'll definitely want to use the wind-gaurd, because your breath is more apt to hit the mic if it's low and in front of you.
This is the best, most informative tutorial video on creating a pro level audio setup. Very well structured and very helpful. Followed your steps and everything sounds excellent! Thank you!
Thank you so much. I’m so glad it was helpful, because that’s the point! Enjoy your setup. And thank you again. :)
amazing thank you!! I have been using my movo vxr10 for a year now for my vlogs and videos but now for live streams on my youtube channel this will help!! Thank u!
Informative video - thank you!
Thank you :)
Made it work, thanks to your video! Thank you! :-)
Hi there. Awesome! So glad the video helped, good luck to you :)
Great video!
Thank you!
You covered all I needed to know. Thank you a lot! Greetings from Colombia!
Hi there from the USA! So glad it was helpful! Happy recording :)
Appreciate it. I was stuck when I tried connecting my movo mic directly into my pc audio jak port. I now realize I needed a jack to usb adapter and connect it that way.
This is the most informative and well done video I think I have ever watched about a product. Your are succinct, you understand the challenges the user faces and you provide options. The quality of your video is also something to aspire to! Thank you so much for providing this. I wish you a million views!
Thank you so much!
This is EXACTLY what I was looking for. Thank you so much for the informative video.
Hi there. You're welcome, I'm so glad it helped! Good luck :)
Thank you!!! My parents got this kit for me, and I’m now working as an IDD and couldn’t figure out how to connect to my computer!!!
Glad I could help!
Excelent video Marcus, thank you very much, I need a wireless mic for my smartphone and camcorder, to brodcast facebook live ,or block, but long distance, I don't know if this kind of mic will pick up the sound, any recomendations, let me know please
Hi there Javier. Honestly, for a wireless mic, I'd go with the Rode Wireless Go. It's a bit expensive, but, it is honestly the best ultra compact system for wireless transmission in my opinion. I also bought the Rode Lavalier Go to pair with it (additional $80) but the Wireless Go by itself is also a microphone, so you don't NEED an additional lavalier mic, you can just use the Rode Wireless Go transmitter b/c it has a built-in mic. Or you can buy a cheaper Lav than the Rode Lavalier Go. The main reason I bought the additional lavalier was because the Wireless Go Transmitter/Mic is a bit large for most of the shirts I wear (low-cut, v-neck), and I usually just find the Wireless Go transmitter flops about a lot on my t-shirts. Otherwise the Wireless Go transmitter (with its built-in mic) sounds great.
If that's out of your budget, you might try the Movo wireless lav. I have NOT used the movo, but, it may be good enough for what you need.......but you wouldn't be disappointed with the Wireless Go if that's in your budget.
Good luck to you Javier!
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Great video.
Thank you.
What exactly should we order for mic use with a Dell PC?
Hi there. Thank you so much. To be quite honest, I made this video a few years ago and there are a lot better USB microphones these days.
I know budget is always a concern, but if I had to recommend a single microphone that's pretty easy to use, I'd get the Rode VideoMic Go II, it's only $100, sounds REALLY good, and it's a USB-direct mic, so there's no need for that additional USB-3.5mm mic adapter I use in this video.
This is the mic I'd go for: amzn.to/3TOcHyP
And you can get almost any mini tripod to hold it because the VideoMic Go II is pretty light. I have this Ulanzi MT-16 and it is light but strong enough to hold the VideoMic Go II very well: amzn.to/4aIr9zo
Let me know, cheers!
Hi Marcus, excellent video. One question, is there an aditional software to improve the sound of this mic that you could recommend. I do streaming, sounds good, but Im looking something a little bit better.
Hi there. Thank you. If you're recording and editing the audio, then any audio recording software will have plugins to clean up the audio (like noise-reducers, Equalizers, compressors, etc). Software like Apple Garageband, Adobe Audition, Pro Tools. Reaper is a cheaper option, but if you're on a Mac then Garageband is free. If you need to clean up the audio while streaming live, you can use OBS studio (free) and use filters within OBS to clean up the audio. Of course, using OBS and doing things live requires a bit more knowledge of audio routing within your computer. Using the Movo VXR 10 like I'm suggesting in this video certainly is a budget-option, but, can certainly be effective! Good luck. :)
How sensitive would the microphone be in regards to a mechanical keyboard? If used as you showed at a desk, and placed above the monitor.
Great video for such a small subscriber base!
Hi There. When you say "how sensitive," do you mean in terms of how much of the SOUND of the keyboard will it pick up audibly? Or do you mean how much of the vibrations of typing on the keyboard might get picked up physically through the keyboard>desk>cable>into the mic?
I tested this a bit typing on my laptop directly and I didn't have too much trouble with the mic picking up many vibrations through the mic. So, as long as you're not banging away REALLY hard on the keyboard or laptop directly and causing the microphone to be physically jarred and bounce around, I'd say you should be fine and it won't pick up too much sound or vibration.
Granted, when most of us are in an online meeting, we're not *always doing a whole lot of typing. And, for my personal setup, when I'm on a web-conference and at my desk, I'm almost always using an external keyboard anyway.
As far as the mic picking up "clicking" sounds audibly, well, of course, any microphone is going to pick up the ambient sounds that are around where the mic is aimed, but again, it would typically be minimal.......unless you're in a VERY reverberant room with hard floors, hard walls, and lots of glass where the sound just bounces around like crazy!
Anyway, hope that helps, good luck!
@@MarcusHutsell Thanks for your quite extensive reply. I'll add a touch more information, so you might be able to help me get my answer a bit better.
While in conference calls/meetings, there is indeed usually no need for typing, I code while on Discord with friends. The microphone I'm currently using picks up way too much sound from my keyboard.
As the microphone is (supposed to be) a (super-)cardioid microphone, the sound picked up should only be from where you point the mic (typically at face/upper-chest). Obviously, there will be some environmental noise picked up, but I was specifically wondering *how much* it would pick up from a mechanical keyboard (with Red switches), if you are at all familiar with those. Especially when the mic is placed at a distance (so above a monitor).
I'm not so much worried about the vibrations from typing, etc., as there's always an option for a deskpad or other solutions for dampening, as well as the provided shock-mount.
I hope I haven't bothered you too much with the question, but I haven't been able to find the answer in other videos about this mic, so far. Thanks again for the reply!
@@im.so.c0ld Hi again. No worries, I like the in depth question. I'm not familiar with "red switch keyboards," but I get it that it's mechanical.
Personally, I'm an Apple keyboard guy, I like the low-travel and generally quieter typing.
Here's what I'd say to your question. If a microphone is above you, AKA, pointed down at your chest/mouth......then the keyboard isn't too far away from where the mic is pointed. The keyboard would only be at the end of your arms, and therefore still relatively close to your chest........even for a super-cardiod mic.
The best bet to have any mic NOT pick up that keyboard sound would be to go for something like a dynamic mic.....which by nature would generally need to be a LOT closer to your mouth. Something like an SM-58, or SM7B, both of which are cardioid pick up patterns, and because they're dynamic, generally fare a lot better when right up against your voice.....which both pushes the diaphragm enough for decent gain structure, and limits the ambient noise it picks up (again, because of the gain needed when at that distance. Therefore, if at your mouth....the keyboard would be behind the mic and wouldn't be picked up as much.
However, that means the mic would have to sit right in front of your face....which, I just DO not like when I'm sitting at my desk, unless I'm JUST recording a voiceover and need more isolation from the room. I just don't like having to deal with a microphone right in front of me, especially when I need to use my keyboard and mouse, it just causes a visual obstruction, and, of course, it would be in the camera-shot.
I'd say the Movo VXR10, if positioned above your monitor and pointed down....is still going to pick up quite a bit of keyboard clicking. It is technically a cardioid-pattern, with a very short interference tube, so they market it as a "shotgun mic," but, with such a short interference tube, I'm hesitant to call it that myself. But it definitely picks up a larger "bubble" of space than say a mic like the Rode VideoMic NTG, which I recently purchased and use very regularly now. That mic may be a better option, but, it's quite a lot more expensive ($250) than the VXR10.
Now that you've asked, I'm actually very interested to test this using the Movo VXR10. I may have to do that soon.
I hope that helps :-P
Great explanation. May I have two questions? Was the sound in this video recorded with overhead/overmonitor placed Movo VXR10? Is Movo VXR10 Pro a better choice when plugged directly into a regular motherboard jack port (PC not laptop)?
I had the microphone overhead during this recording, just out of my video frame. And, if your computer or motherboard has a true "mic" jack, then this mic should work just fine plugging in to that jack. I haven't tried that because I don't have any computers with a real mic jack on them. Since a lot of people may be using laptops I didn't go over that because most laptops do not have a true 3.5mm Mic jack.
Hi man! Thank you very much for that video. Super helpful. one small problem I had- I want to turn off the white noise and background noise I got When connected the VXR10 as you said through the USB adapter. Windows wasn't showing me the Enhancements Tab. Have you done this with Movo VXR10 and your USB adapter? thanks!
Hi there. Unfortunately, I don't think Windows or Mac has any built-in noise reduction software or enhancements. But, if you're using the mic in this configuration for online meetings, Zoom and many other meeting platforms do have sound enhancement tools to remove some background "hiss." You could also use OBS studio to route your microphone through and you could add audio filters there, but that option does take some tinkering and knowing how to route your audio really well, but it works and it is free. And, I'm not sure if you're talking about background noise (noise of the room, etc) or system noise like "hiss." If it's system noise like "hiss," every microphone and cable has some amount of hiss to it, my U-Green model of USB adapter I got doesn't add much noise, it's possible you might try a different USB Mic adapter. And keep your 1/8" cable as short as possible, I only use about a 2' or 3' extension most of the time. If you're using the mic to record with, then most audio recording software will have some sort of noise reduction....Adobe Audition and Premiere noise reduction is pretty good. This microphone option for streaming,/recording, is definitely the budget-option though.
Google Meets also does some automatic noise reduction, I've used this configuration many times and tested it through Google Meet and the sound is pretty clean and clear. Let me know if you find a solution to your noise problem, I had to go through about (3) different USB-Mic adapters to find the model that worked best. Thank goodness for return policies!
@@MarcusHutsell WOW man. Thanks a lot for your answers ! Really appreciate that! it is a "hiss" kind of disruption. Usually it is pretty steady. 90 percent of the time it is in the background. Especially when I am not speaking apparently (maybe because it is just silence enough to be heard?). I am not sure if zoom is autocorrecting the noise or not. I will check that when calling a friend for a test call and will let you know. I hope it is not the USB adapter cause it looked like a pretty good one. Many videos on CZcams says the "enhancement tab" on windows 10 should fix that but I haven't found a way to show that option in the sound properties.
The thing is that I need it mostly for Zoom for work purposes. So other programs wouldn't help here. Perhaps OBS will do the trick here? I hope!! This is the adapter I bought : en.roccat.org/Headsets/Juke
Thanks again!
I just tested Zoom with the mic and I think Zoom eliminate that automatically. it seems like. but I will have to recheck that several times to be sure because I will not want the noises to suddenly occur on a business meeting obviously 😆 I think it is thanks to the fact that on sound settings in ZOOM the "Suppress background noise" option is on "Auto"
Any info on connecting the VXR10 Pro microphone to an audio interface, such as the Focusrite Scarlett 2i2? I've been trying multiple adapters and cables (cables are TRS) to connect to the interface, but its not picking up any sound going into the mic. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Hi there Donald. Apologies for my late reply, I've been busy!!
So, for mics like the VXR10 or any other small "on-camera" mic like this.....most of them require about 3 to 5 volts of power which they typically receive FROM the 3.5mm mic inputs on our cameras. So, this mic needs SOME power provided by the thing you're plugging it into, this is commonly known as "plug in power."
However, if you're adapting to XLR like a focusrite, do NOT just grab any ole adapter and then turn on the phantom power on the Scarlett, because that will push 48V to the VXR10 and probably fry it.
Rode has thought of this and made a specific adapter for mics like this (which is similar to their Video Micro, which also requires this "plug in power."
You can get the Rode VXLR+. That adapter does a couple of things:
1. It has a 3.5mm input for the mic
2. It converts from 3.5mm to XLR so you can plug it into an XLR input
3. It has a Transformer inside, which means you CAN then turn on the phantom power, and the VXLR+ (XLR PLUS) will take that 48V phantom power and reduce it down to the 3 to 5V that the mic needs. Then you can use mics like this with any XLR input, as long as the XLR input can supply phantom power.
Again, ONLY use the VXLR+, because it will properly reduce the voltage down for the mic.
This one: amzn.to/3CpICx1
more info here: rode.com/en/accessories/adaptors-cables/vxlr-plus
I am looking for a mic to stream on twitch, however i looking for something really specific, i want it to be out of the frame, i want it to pick up my voice and controller sound naturally without having to put on a noise gate on obs, but also to reject the sounds behind the mic. Sorry if explanation is not clear (u can watch a dark souls short from the happy hob to know what im looking for). Is this it? I would apreciate the help ❤
Hi there. Great questions.
You're in the same/tough predicament as a lot of people:
1. Wanting the mic out of frame
2. Don't want it to pick up a lot of noise
3. Wanting it to "not pick up sound from behind it"
The hard thing is, mics are kind of dumb, they just pick up sound waves in the air, and sounds near you, like a computer keyboard, can't be rejected by the mic itself, those types of sounds will require either a quieter keyboard, or software noise filtration. FYI, I use OBS's noise filter daily in my virtual meetings, it works great.
Your issues can be somewhat achieved, but remember that it's much more about mic placement and usage than the particular mic: The further away the mic is, the more you'll have to add gain (turn it up)....therefore the more room sound, ambient, sounds surrounding noise and sounds it will pick up.
Keeping the mic as close to your voice as possible is best for rejection of other sounds around you.......so, honestly, a dynamic mic would be best, but you have to keep that really close to your mouth, so you probably don't want to do that since you want the mic out of frame.
It's also recommended to make sure your office/studio has sound-absorption materials so your room isn't reverberant or "echoey."......because bounced sound will bounce around into the mic as well.
You could go with a small shotgun mic like the Rode VideoMic Go ii for $100, however, keep in mind that "shotgun" mics are almost always Super-Cardioid polar patterns, and with ANY Super cardioid pick up pattern the mic will pick up a *little bit more sound from directly behind the mic. Not much, but that's how the physics of the mic work. If you have a speaker DIRECTLY behind a super-cardioid mic, it will hear that speaker a bit.......but if you have (2) speakers, then just make sure the speakers are spread a bit to the left-right-rear of the mic....but make sure YOU are CLOSER to the mic than the mic is to your speakers........or, even better, just wear headphones and don't have your speakers on.
Another option is to go with a cardioid-pattern mic, because it doesn't have that small amount of audio pick up on the rear of the mic. The problem there is that most cardioid pattern mics are large diaphragm condenser mics or dynamic mics and they do better much closer to your voice.
For $100.......I'd go with the Rode VideoMic Go ii. It's a good price, it's direct USB Connectivity, it sounds great, and you can positions it just out of frame but still have it pick up good sound, and it doesn't require an additional USB Audio interface. Just be careful to NOT place any speakers directly behind it.
Good luck!
If my SurfacePro 7 has a earphone jack do I need to use the Ugreen Mic Input?
If it's ONLY a headphone port, then yes, you will still need a USB interface with a 1/8" mic-jack input like the U-Green. I've never used a Surface before, but looking at the specs on Microsoft's website, it states that the 1/8" (or 3.5mm) port is for headphones only, which means it does not have any wiring to accept an input.
my mic is really quiet. even after maxing the mic level (on a mac).. is it because it doesn't have a battery? Is there solution to this? I have tried using a USB interface AND my camera (when. Iturn the gain on my camera I get a lot of noise ( probably from lens) but I am still quiet.
Hi Andrew.
Hmmmmm........could be a number of things. If you're using the equipment I used in this video, the USB adapters with the little red 3.5mm mic input, the quality differs between brands and the UGreen model that I used was one of the better ones.
These small USB 3.5mm mic inputs don't always have a lot of gain, so even in my example here, I keep the mic very close, as if I the laptop and mic were right in front of me. If you put the mic far enough away, you won't be able to get enough gain out of it, as you may be experiencing.
Now, if you're using the Movo VXR10 specifically, it doesn't need a battery, but must be plugged into a 3.5mm "mic" input, like *most cameras have. not all 3.5mm inputs are expecting a micrphone, and those 3.5mm mic inputs on cameras (like the Sony A7iii, A7iv, etc, etc) and even the UGreen USB adapter all provide a small amount of voltage, between 3-5 volts to properly power the mic. If you plug a mic like this into a line-level input (usually signified by being a BLUE input on most computers), then it is not going to work or it will be very low like you're hearing.
So, the Movo VXR10 plugged into a mirrorless/DSLR style camera's 3.5mm (red) input, that should work just fine.
Just remember, the further away your mic is from you, even a few feet (like having the mic way off to the right side of your desk, maybe over your laptop), isn't going to pick up your voice as well.......and that's when you have to start turning up the gain (like on the camera itself) just to make your VOICE loud enough, but in doing so, if the mic is far away.......it will simply turn up EVERYTHING, including sounds that are closer to the camera than you, and of course, any 3.5mm mic input (even on my Sony A7iv) is going to get noisy if you start increasing the gain. I talk about that exact thing in a portion of this video: czcams.com/video/15TrPJmDRB4/video.html
I'm certainly not suggesting you buy new gear if your gear isn't working, there's probably a solution with what you already have. However, an easier option with great sound quality is the the Rode VideoMicGo II (which didn't exist when I recorded this video), is a great USB-direct mic, that you can also use with your camera. It's certainly a better option overall.
But, with your current setup, it's hard to tell without knowing the exact equipment you have AND how/where you're set up, how far away your mic is, etc.....it's possible there's a problem with your mic itself.
Mics like the movo VXR 10 are meant as on-camera mics, and the way I deploy/use it in this video works, but is not necessarily how the mic is typically used.
I hope some of that helps. Good luck.
Hi Marcus, I picked up one of these mics and its definitely better than my phone or camera mic. However, I have an issue with it that I can't seem to figure out - whenever I use it, I get a constant white noise that I can kinda tune out with eq (its mostly in the 4k3-4k5 range, but does appear in 1k too) but it's still there after tuning. Have any tips on getting cleaner audio from the mic?
Hi there. That's a tough one, because it could be multiple things like the USB dongle (if you are using a USB dongle with mic input), it could be the 1/8" cable, make sure you're using just the TRS-TRS cable and not the TRS-TRRS cable if you are using a USB Dongle that has a "mic" input jack like I use in the video.
Make sure your 1/8" cable isn't getting interference from something nearby. I was using a 39" TV at my desk instead of a computer monitor, and when my cable ran too close that TV it picked up a lot of noise and interference. So, keep the cable-run as short as possible and away from other devices as much as possible.
Start taking things out of your chain until it goes away, and then add them back until the problem reappears. It might be the dongle, it might be the cable, it may be the USB port. Just have to do trial-and-error.
Good luck, I hope you get it working. This is definitely the budget-friendly option, but I use it often.
@@MarcusHutsell Hey, thanks for the reply! I should have specified, I run the included cable from the mic to the mic input on my DSLR. I don't think there's any EMI or anything like that. In fact, while I'm recording basically everything in the room is off except for AC power to the camera and AC power to 2 LED lights.
Through process of elimination, I did find that one source (the 1k range) was a box fan running in another room, which really surprised me that the mic would pick it up being cardioid, and in another room.
Can you recommend any software plugins that work with Resolve to fix this noise issue?
@@kylegeldmaker Hey there. Unfortunately I have only JUST (barely) even started playing with Resolve, and I haven't even touched the audio section. I've been editing in Premiere for a while and I really like Premiere and stick with it a LOT because of the way you can edit and mix audio. I come from the audio world of live and recorded audio and Premiere gives me an ACTUAL audio mixer where I can insert effects on to an entire track instead of having to put effects on individual clips. Anyway, that's not what you asked, but, in Premiere, I usually use all of the built-in plug ins, usually in this order: 1. A light Noise Reduction plugin
2. Parametric EQ
3. Compressor
4. Expander
5. De-Esser
Not sure how Resolve handles audio.....it's something I want to get in to, but it's just a HUGE step for me to try to jump to a new editor.
The only other question I would ask you is:
1. How far away is your camera with your VXR10?
2. Is your Mic in the hot-shoe on top of your camera.....
If your camera is more than about 2' away, I'd get your mic off your camera itself and get the mic closer. For instance, in most of my videos I'm using a 24mm lens, which puts the camera about 3' away from me and the camera is actually sitting in between my speakers and behind/below my computer monitor......which is basically a TERRIBLE place for my microphone if the mic were on top of my camera. So I have my mic boomed over my computer monitor and it's about 14 inches away from me when I'm filming. So, MUCH closer to my voice than if the mic were on my camera.
Not sure what your set up is, but always try to get the mic within about 2' of you, and that will assist in reducing some of the ambient noise because it means you'll have to turn down the camera's pre-amps to compensate for the louder signal.
My apologies if this is all stuff you already know :)
Then, see if Resolve has an an audio Expander, I've been using that type of plug in a lot lately, so it takes the quiet parts of my audio (like in between when I'm speaking) and reduces the output during those quieter times. It cleans up my audio a bit more nicely than a De-Noiser, because De-noisers can get very robotic-sounding.
I hope some of that helped :). Good luck.
@@MarcusHutsellI run my cam pointed down on a table top since my content is mostly wrench work on RC trucks, and the mic is attached using a micro super clamp about 12" from me while speaking.
Your response did just trigger something I hadn't thought about which is to under tune the cameras preamp. I run it so my speech is about 12db. I might be able to run the preamp lower and just boost the clip in resolve.
As far as post processing, I haven't really done anything with audio processing or mixing beyond a early beginner level. But it's something I'm interested in. I'd be interes to hear what your mic sounds like raw without any processing. Maybe my mic is faulty?
@@kylegeldmaker I doubt the mic is faulty. Looking at some of your videos and that they are "top-down" shots......if you're doing a top down shot, it's possible your face is also pointed down a bit while you're speaking?....and if that's the case, then your voice may not be pointed at the mic as much as it could be. So I'd start with trying different mic positions. Possibly moving the mic lower, a bit more out in front of you, but then angle it and point it more at your mouth. It's all just physics and acoustics. And yes, it's a cardioid mic, but, you'd be surprised how much cardioids still pick up, especially when you have to boost either the pre-amp or boost in post.
Glancing at Resolve real quick, if you go into the Fairlight tab at the bottom and get to the audio mixing screen, you can add an effect on a specific channel. And within the effects I see a DeNoise plugin, and I also see a "Dynamics" section which has some options for compressors.
Very informative. Please Can this be used for voice Overs.
Hi there. Thank you. I guess technically ANY microphone can be used for voiceovers. But this mic is not meant to be really REALLY close to your mouth, it's meant to sit back just a bit from your voice. So, if you're looking for something that is going to record more a more isolated voice sound, then I would get a microphone that you CAN put closer to your mouth, and get a pop-filter for it. You can get something like the FiFine USB mic with a pop filter and articulating arm on Amazon for about $65-$70. That type of mic can be better used to get closer to your mouth. And, those types of large-diaphragm condenser mics need to be closer to you anyway to really isolate and capture just your voice, and not the room-sound. So keep that in mind, because a USB large diaphragm condenser microphone may end up in your video frame since it needs to be pretty close to you. But, if you're only doing voiceovers and not recording video, then it won't matter. I hope that helps. :)
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@@MarcusHutsell Thank you so much. This has been very helpful, I really appreciate you. Keep up the good works.
Hello, MH! Real useful video! Thanks!
I live in India, and tell video stories - mostly from my desk - on my CZcams Channel.
I use a Vivo V2025 smartphone.
I have tried Saramonic SR-WM4C wirelss mic and JBL CSSG20 shotgun mic. Not very happy with either.
I have tried a Sonilex SL-002MC, a wired twin lapel mic. Though very inexpensive, it sounds okay!
The one I use most is an i-ball ev-18 wired over-the-ear headphones with mic. This I had bought during Skype days!
The last works the best! But I want something better.
My phone does not support USB mics, not even with an OTG. So my choice is really narrow.
I believe I need a mic that uses no external power and will work thru my headphone jack using trrs pin.
Any suggestions?
Thanks for your patience!
14 OCT 2021
Hi there Storyteller. I am so sorry for my very-delayed response, I've been busy the past couple of months and this comment got lost in the mix. But yes, you can use the VXR10 with a smartphone, it comes with a TRS-TRRS Cable just for that purpose. And of course there are tons of handheld/tripod/mounting options on Amazon to mount it up with your phone. I think the Movo VXR10 is a very good sounding mic, and it's only $40, hard to beat, and I think you'd be happy with it :)
thanks a lot!
will check them out
Do you have an updated video with the vrx10 pro? Also how would this work say I want to use my ios device?
Hi there. I was thinking about doing just that video, and so I ordered the VXR10 Pro. However, it seems that the VXR10 pro requires a stronger preamp to get enough signal into a laptop using JUST a USB dongle with a mic input like the one I use for the VXR10. I did not do extensive testing, but in my few tests, the audio levels using the VXR10 Pro showing up in my Macbook Pro through the same dongle, were just a lot lower than when using the VXR10. This isn't a problem when using the VXR10 Pro on a DSLR or mirrorless camera, because cameras have preamps with more gain than a laptop. So, I ended up sending the VXR10 pro back. Not because it wasn't a good mic, but because it doesn't work well with just a USB dongle, I think it's better suited for on-camera use or with a dedicated audio recorder.
@@MarcusHutsell exaxtly that's what I seen on someone's video they used a DSLR camera and it seem to work on checking live audio while shooting so It has to be possible. Also I would love to see that video and I'm sure alot of others would like to since everyone is using smart phones more with good mics and not many are going into detail about this topic.
@@vegaf2011 I realize I forgot to address your question about using the VXR10 Pro with an IOS (Apple iPhone) device. The VXR10 and VXR10 Pro DO come with the proper cable (TRRS) to plug into your iOS device. Of course, you have to also have the lighting to 1/8" adapter to be able to plug the TRRS cable into your iphone, as there is not a headphone/mic port on any iphone past the iPhone 6s. I didn't test this with the VXR10 Pro, as I usually do not use my phone for filming. If I do buy the VXR10 Pro again, I can certainly test this. But I can confirm that the standard VXR10 DOES work as a mic for the iphone when using the lightning to 1/8" adapter. So it *should work the same for the VXR10 Pro.
@@vegaf2011 Are you saying that you and others might like to see a video on IF the Movo VXR10 Pro works with iOS devices?
@@MarcusHutsell no just a video in general about it and how to use with ios.
How much phantom power does this mic require if going through an audio mixer first?
Hi there. Do NOT give full phantom power to this mic. These small mics only require (and can usually only handle) the 3V to 5V of "Plug in power" that is given by the 3.5mm preamps on cameras. Giving this mic 24 or 48V will probably fry it.
However, you can use the Rode VXLR+ (Make sure it's the "plus" model) because the VXLR+ has a power converter that will convert the 48V phantom power of a mixer down to about 5V for small mics like this.
The set up would be:
VXR10 > 3.5mm TRS Cable > VXLR+ > XLR input on mixer > turn on phantom power on mixer.
@@MarcusHutsell Golden reply! Thx.
it sounds a bit "telephone quality" to me, compared to your regular mic, with less low frequencies and more sound compression.
for a zoom meeting it is not relevant ....
the Movo certainly isn't as good as my Rode VideoMic NTG. In addition, I did have to apply some noise suppression to this video in editing because (1) I was using my GH5, which added more noise to the audio because of the preamps in the camera.....and (2) I left my small desk fan on during some of the takes and I could hear it and the sound wasn't consistent. Listening back, this isn't my favorite audio on my videos either, but it's also a $40 microphone, which, for the money, sounds pretty great, especially when you're just using it during a virtual call and the meeting platform can do any noise-reduction for you. So yeah, I'm always looking back and listening to my own videos for things I can improve upon, even during editing. :)
Also sounds like I may have over-EQ'd out the low end. I think my previous speaker-setup was too bass-heavy with my subwoofer and I overcompensated.
11:04 is your finger pointing to your speakers? mmhmm
HI there. Yeah, I think I'm pointing at my laptop speakers at 11:04, reminding people to keep any mic from pointing at ANY speakers, which may just be the little speakers on their laptops. Cheers!
Thumbs down for using metric system in 2020 and pretending like there are no smart phones with headphone/mic inputs anymore. Thumbs up for helping me find out what I need though.
19 minutes 🙄
Yep. 19 full, in depth, exact instructions :)
@@MarcusHutsell i suggest you include timestamp.
Ah yes, been meaning to do that, this one was a while ago and yes, it would be helpful. Will certainly try to update this video :)
Hi there, this may be a bit late for you, but timestamps have been added :). I hope they help.