Tracksmith Eliot - An Apparel Brand's First Shoe
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- čas přidán 31. 07. 2024
- Tracksmith makes everything for the runner, and now, that includes the shoes. This is the much anticipated Tracksmith Eliot, a double pebax daily trainer.
0:00 intro
0:57 disclosures
1:14 Eilot Name
2:12 Specs
6:45 What's it Like
11:22 What shoe is it similar to
14:50 Summary
disclosures: Tracksmith sent me this shoe to review along with some other Tracksmith gear. Tracksmith also sent all other Tracksmith apparel appearing in this video for the purpose of prior reviews. However, no one is paying me to make this video or to use any of these products. No one will get a chance to preview any of my footage or my thoughts before this video goes up on CZcams.
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Thank you for the time you put into this review. This really seems like a cool around town/travel shoe that you could use to squeeze in some recovery runs in while you're traveling or every few runs while at home. I like it!
Gotta be honest, looks like a tennis shoe.. like I should be wearing a pastel Lacoste shirt with them
That’s exactly my thoughts!
Hey Michael, Happy New Year! Your channel inspired me to take up running during the lockdown. Glad I came across your channel!🏃🙌
thanks so much for watching!
Happy new year kofuzi ! Always on the top of the running world , one of the best channels.
Great thorough review and love the edition of summary. “Squishy like grissle or that used bubblegum kind of way will be on a Kofuzi “quotable quotes” list!😂
I am going away for a holiday soon. I think you made a valid point about what shoe to bring. For a clean and stylish shoe that also let's you do your holiday run and you can pair a pants/shirt to go to restaurants easily, it is a great choice. I do believe this is more in line of a lifestyle shoe for me and there is nothing wrong with that.
Love the candor and nuance of your reviews! I use the Speed 3 for my daily runs (which are just 5k) and so this sounds right up my alley as a lifestyle shoe at the very least. It reminds me of how Basketball shoes are fashion and so you’re often paying $200 before that dual usage.
I’m very curious to see how this shoe actually gets used once more people get their hands on them.
@@kofuzi - I think it’s gonna help usher in a new category of running shoes priced like Jordan’s with similar characteristics - you can probably use them for performance but they’re more a fashion statement.
I love the looks of this shoe. But i think I bought it with the thought of it being a casual shoe not a shoe I'll run in. 🙃 we shall see. Can't wait for it to arrive. Great review, as always. Happy New Year's Mike.
I think a lot of people will do the same
Love the Tracksmith feel to their clothes not quite sold on their first shoe.
my hunch is that when I go to Boston this year, every other person at the expo will have a pair on
This shoe is beautiful as a casual and still works in running
Squishy but with the snap back of chewed bubblegum is such a good and accurate description. That’s exactly how the midsole of the endorphin speed 3 feels to me.
It’s cool that tracksmith is doing what they want to do.., it’s also a tough road as an apparel brand, to get footwear correct (example..under armour).
It can take a while.., but they maybe on the fast track, with where they are sourcing materials from.
only time will tell
Been waiting for this. Thanks for the review. Insole emphasized
I pressed like button for Ko’s hard work on video review then watch the full review
Comparing it to the Soeedland is very apt, as they are two shoes that price point is literal insanity.
Awesome review as always!
The tracksmith gear is just another level . Feel so free in their apparel
Best Elliot shoe review so far. I’ve been thinking of buying this shoe as a casual shoe , i.e. not using it for running at all. 16:35
when I'm done reviewing this shoe, I may go back and buy a pair for casual wear
It looks like the brooks hyperion tempo but fancy🤣
I think it will be a bit of a Rorschach test
@@kofuzi I’m a psychologist and you’ve got that right! “What might this be?”😂
Looks nothing like that shoe
If Brooks Brothers* made running shoes..
@@jribe 😂👍🏼
The used bubble gum cushion comparison is both so descriptive and so entertaining.
Thanks for your review!
Such a beautiful looking shoe. Might have to cop
Was looking at these shoes as an athleisure shoe for 2023… then I saw that all-white Asics shoe with the gum outsole (Nimbus 25?) and I completely forgot about these. Saving my 💵 for those Asics now.
I’ve heard conflicting things that they won’t release those all white/gum Nimbus and they were mainly just reviewer or seeded shoes. 😢 I hope I’m wrong
The best part of these shoes is their looks and quality, and while comfort and performance are solid, it does not mean the performance matches that price tag 1 for 1. But that’s okay, and I think that’s an important point to drive home for prospective buyers.
Great vid Mike, you got a typo in the chapters, Eliot is misspelled "Eilot"! Cheers!
Such a great looking shoe, and as you said, you don’t want to get it dirty.
Tracksmith is to running what Rapha used to be to cycling (hopefully they don’t sell out to the Walmart family too 😅)
A seriously nice looking shoe and I can't wait to have mines ,even though it's taking forever to get here
it resembles Pegasus turbo 35 so much. Beautifully designed!
Thank you,these one looks very cool❤❤❤❤
Mine are on their way to the UK. Just going to wear them as fashion shoes.
Great looking lifestyle shoe. The shoe will get down right filthy in the winter
I'm not one to pamper a running shoe
Old skool looks with modern features. Nice
Those stitches at the insoles looks like blister makers, but I can be wrong! Too much casual shoe oriented for me, but like the approach!
as I specifically mention in the video, that's exactly what I thought. but a ten mile easy run, days of wearing it around casually, and a 16 mile workout didn't cause any irritation at all.
Nice call out to the Puma sister shoe.
I am somewhat of a hypocrite in that I had immediate buyer's remorse when I purchased the Asics Superblast (have not run in yet). However, I have zero regret when it came to purchasing the Eliots as I have spent way more on lifestyle-oriented shoes. I received my pair this afternoon and they are absolutely beautiful...super clean with impeccable fit and finish.
For those interested, I would say these are just a tiny smidge longer than TTS. Those who prefer race-thin socks may prefer a half-size down. With that said, I agree with @kofuzi that the slightly extra length is great for the inevitable foot/toe swelling.
I'm glad you are enjoying yours!
Interesting new shoes, especially after hearing from some that these are what the latest Nike Pegasus Turbo Next Nature should have been. I wonder how the ride feel is like if you need to replace the pebax insoles with your orthotic insoles?
I'm not feeling the Peg Turbo references that people mention
Tracksmith is the Rapha of running and Rapha is the Tracksmith of cycling.😁
These are looking more like a running-ish daily sneakers, I would love to try them as such. Tracksmith apparel always feel premium and look just so on point. Classic and modern at the same time. Now we are able to complete the look with these pretty bastards.
I feel like the one thing that I was hoping that people would be able to prove by running a ten mile easy run or a 16 mile long run is that these are good running shoes and not just running-inspired casual shoes.
but perhaps I should have used more of a click-bait approach with a thumbnail that says "Are These Legit?"
Finally took the plunge and bought myself a tracksmith top, all their gear is so beautiful but £198 is way too much for a daily trainer.
I hope you enjoy the apparel!
@@kofuzi UPDATE: It's arrived and the wife has declared it too nice looking to 'just' run in
What's the jacket/pullover at 11:10? Looks very comfy and breathable for runs.
Have loved Tracksmith clothes since 2015. Wore a BQ'15 singlet, base layer & shorts at the recent CIM. The shoe; however, looks more like a tennis shoe than a running shoe IMHO. Also not keen on the 9 mm heel drop.
Do you know if intent was to replace the insole before the rest of the shoe? That could justify a higher price tag? Also greener ?
Happy new year! Really appreciate your reviews! Will you ever review the nike infinity react? I'm trying to get into running this year and bought the shoe. I'm enjoying it but curious about your opinion on it and what other cushioned trainers you'd recommend.
I ran in the first version. I thought it was ok, but it disappointed me in that it was nothing like the Epic React, which I absolutely loved.
as far as I know, there has not been a meaningful update to the shoe since it's initial version. I could be wrong on that, however.
Liked the Fun Fact reference to Elliott the Wabbit! 🐇👟
Those shoes look so good
Is it like the newer Saucony Freedom'?
Do you think it’s a good shoe just for walking around/ daily stuff? It looks so nice that I want to wear it with some jeans or when I’m doing heavier walking activities.
I suspect that will be it's most common use case in the wild
To my eyes, it's one of the best looking running shoes ever made. That's definitely worth something. For actually running in, I tend to lean towards softer shoes, so probably not for me. But it sure does look great.
EVER MADE??
@@Clift0n Looks is obviously all subjectivive, but yep! I can't think of any running shoe I like better. What would be your top picks based on looks?
Reminds me of the Ride 15 w the premium insole & firmer midsole.. just heavier & more expensive
I look at this and don't think running shoe but in a way does remind me of some of the classic runners from the 80s
Looks like the great granny of the Reebok FloatRide Energy 3.0, especially the beige edition.
that's the shoe that I see most, especially because of the outsole. you're the first to seem to agree with me
@@kofuzi ah, I see you mentioned it in the live show, but yeah, the bright trail version doesn't quite trigger the association as hard.
Checks sizes available. Only up to UK 12/US 13. Oh well. £198 saved.
How would you compare it to the Hoka Mach 5? I feel like I see that shoe compared to the Speed 3 and Deviate 2 often as well
the Mach 5 is similar to the Novablast 3, imo. I think a lot of people mention the Mach 5 along with the Speed 3 and Deviate 2 in that they are good shoes that people frequently consider when making a purchase. But I don't think they all necessarily feel the same.
Thanks for the great video. Quick q, did you have to go a size down for these? Or did you go true to size? Thanks
I went with my usual size
How does the squishyness and snap compare to the Puma Velocity Nitro 2?
do you have experience in any endorphin Speed shoes? that may be the best way for me to describe what it feels like to run in the shoe. The Velocity Nitro 2 comparison is difficult because the rubber outsole dominates the experience in that shoe for me. so while I kind of want to say it's like a double stack Velocity Nitro 2, I'm not sure that's accurate
Can we get a 100 mile update on the puma deviate Elite???
Who do you think actually made the shoe since I doubt they setup their own manufacturing yet? I wonder if its Puma?
that's a good question. I don't think I had considered that. I wonder if it's like a co-packing situation, like with ice cream. One giant factory where 9 or 10 different brands of shoes are made in the same building.
The speedland actually has a drop-in midsole, quite a few basketball shoes have those
I think there was a very early round of pre-orders and it seems like those have started shipping. hopefully, the rest of the pre-orders will go out soon.
Floatide Pegasus Tempo SC 🔥
Is there any news on a version 2 of this model? It's been out for a bit, so just wondering if a new version is on the horizon.............because then this version may get some sale pricing =)
I would not anticipate a yearly update schedule from this kind of shoe from this kind of brand.
That being said, I secretly suspect that there has been an in line change that has made the upper a bit less snug
Very nice looking tennis shoe reminiscent of the old Adidas Stan Smith.
I love hearing what people are reminded of when people look at this shoe. it really has been a wide variety of shoes.
Surely a nod to the great Herb Eliot too?
Very nice looking shoes! What tracksmith pants are you wearing btw?
I believe they are lined Turnover tights
I’ve heard the sizing is off. I wear a 10 in most brands would I be ok with ordering a 10?
I heard that too. People suggests to order half size or even a size smaller. I have pre-ordered it at half size bigger 😵💫 with intention to use it in easy long runs.
Wait? You ordered a larger size for long runs?
@@t.thompson9977 yes, my reasoning is my feet could get swollen, so I better get a hlaf size bigger rather than black nails. But with what I heard, I should have stick with size 10😮💨
Does it feel in any way like the takumi 8 , or noosa 13? These shoes i love.
it's kind of an opposite to the Takumi Sen 8. I haven't tried the Noosa Tri 13.
@@kofuzi ok thanks. This shoe looks like it has a more comfortable upper than the sen8 . I like the clean look of this one though
Man, that shoe looks good. I would be very hesitant to run in it so as not to get it dirty.
I'm sure I could have sprayed it with some sort of scotch guard. I didn't, however.
Or maybe, it was named after Jumbo Eliott, the track and field coach at Villanova.
perhaps if they make a max cushion version, that could be the inspiration for the name
So kinda like a bougie Peg Turbo?
3:16 my fave part.
Please may I ask if this shoe has a flexible forefoot or a rather firm rocker?
I don't ever do the fold-over test with my shoes, if that's what you are asking
@@kofuzi I've already ordered a pair of Eliot Runner. But still, I believe it's fairly important, especially for a shoes positioning as a daily trainer, to know that whether it had a GT2000 type of flexibility or more of a More V4 type of firm rocker.
Definitely would be a good commuter shoe but I would choose other running shoe brands over tracksmith. Its way too expensive too for what you’re getting.
I think the key to that analysis of whether it's too expensive "for what you're getting" depends on how you define what it is that you're getting.
@@kofuzi sure I understand, well considering they haven’t been in the shoe game, we don’t know how they will hold up. You could get a fantastic daily trainer from nike, new balance, brooks, etc for a more affordable price with confidence that the shoe will last is what I meant :)
As some others have commented, the shoe just looks beautiful, and I may just get it for casual use. Btw, for the longest time, I kept confusing Tracksmith with Rabbit because of its logo. Or wait, are they actually the same company? 😂
Same
@Ivan Leong: No! 😮not the same. The clothing company known as “rabbit” is officially runinrabbit, lower case intended. They just both happen to have rabbit logos, though different. The Tracksmith logo is technically a hare. The runinrabbit logo is more of a cute bunny. Then there used to be Jackrabbit sports which also had a more abstract cursive rabbit logo, but now that they’ve been purchased by Fleet Feet, that is destined to disappear. It’s no coincidence there are a lot of rabbit themes and logos in running companies. Not just because rabbits run fast, but because rabbit is a term for a race pacer used by pros.
@@levandmarthapolyakin-aaron2183 Thx for the clarification! Although I still don’t know the difference between a rabbit and a hare 🤦
@@macau.friend It’s confusing! They’re actually a separate species but in the same order. Hares have longer legs and ears so look very lanky by comparison and look really wild compared to the typical domestic pet rabbit. Hares also aren’t very social whereas rabbits live in large groups and are affectionate so that’s why they can make good pets. And jackrabbits are actually a hares. Kon-fuzing 😂
@@levandmarthapolyakin-aaron2183 Very educational and love the pun! 👍
Beautiful shoe but not sure it’s gonna be what I need in a running shoe…also my pair arrived yesterday and I found sizing to be off in my standard size 7 I normally wear. Definitely a half size too big…maybe even a full size. I don’t think I’m gonna keep them for running or casual wear.
sorry to hear they didn't work out for you
This would compare most to an Pegasus 35, these looks really nice just so expensive :((
I can see I will be using them more for casual wear. hahaha
a lot of people have been mentioning that, which makes sense to me now. but originally, it made no sense. like, could you imagine if Tracksmith had been teasing this shoe for almost a year and then released it and said, "but it's just for the look. don't run in it."
How many miles can you/one expect to get out of this shoe?
I'm at around 50 miles in the shoe at this point, so I can't state an answer from experience. I anticipate that this construction will be quite durable. the shoes will be quite dirty (which seems to be a sticking point for a lot of people), but they should last well over 350 miles
You think the Elliot is like the Pegasus turbo?
How come
I do not. I disagree with Thomas from Believe in the Run in that respect. My suspicion is that he may feel that way because his early testing was on a treadmill, but I haven't had that conversation with him yet
What’s the yellow green ring on your finger?
my wedding ring no longer fits. I have replaced it with a silicone ring. they typically don't last very long, but this one seems to be quite resilient.
@@kofuzi I thought it was a tracking ring or like oura :). Btw, I saw your interview with Kori Runs, you are such an inspiration! Your reviews and vlogs inspire me to keep running. 🙏🏼
I see some potential slipping or blistering problems due to that sockliner.
I have yet to experience any
Also also, you know, Eliud Kipchoge.
pebax world 🎉
a lot of pebax in the shoe
Let me borrow them bro 😎
ok!
To the eye, it looks like a casual shoe only.
that's why I hope it was useful to have a video where I can explain my running experience and running footage that depicts that running experience
to me it looks like a "fancy" sl20
Very nice-looking shoe but for me a lifestyle shoe or gym shoe (similar to Saucony Freedom with similar firmer PEBA foam). I will pass.
However, if they were to sell those insoles I might be interested in purchasing the insoles :)
I've described and shown you the full extent of my testing. subzero temperatures where snow came up to the ankles. forefoot stayed dry. Some snow got in near the ankle. The temperatures I had available to me made water testing impossible as all water was frozen during the testing period.
@@kofuzi were you responding to me or someone else. I am confused.
Seems more like a classic daily trainer with better foam dual density setup like a Velocity Nitro 2, but you can get like 3 of those on sale for the same price lol.
It's funny with those two Tracksmith shoes that they're actually the same price because the Deviate Nitro Elite is a peba carbon plated racer...
common things I see when people think about expensive shoes:
1) people start doing math about how many of another kind of shoe you can buy at the same price
2) people place an outsized price premium on a shoe that has carbon
@@kofuzi Common thing I see from CZcamsrs that love certain brands or that work with them.
1. Will try to find very little to dislike about the item in order to keep getting free stuff from them or to continue to work with them. The trick is to find at least one negative so it appears you are not promoting the item.
2. Getting free overpriced items to review and then saying the item is worth it even though they would not go out to buy it themselves when there is a better cheaper alternative available.
@@kofuzi Yeah you could argue that the carbon plated racers that you may not use as much or last as long isn't worth that extra amount relative to a daily trainer that you will be using all the time and get a lot of miles out of, but it is inarguable that the comparable sort of classic daily trainers do often run around $120 starting and often go for far less. But yeah obviously if you get this one, you are paying in part for the aesthetic/design/brand. It's an intriguing shoe, but it is pretty easy to talk myself out of it given the price relative to another classic daily trainer that I love like the Velocity Nitro 2.
Where are people getting these velocity nitro 2s on sale? Never seen it on sale on pumas website
Amongst friends, I am notoriously stingy with expensive running shoes. But I bought these shoes on pre order lol.
interesting 🤔
@@kofuzi @kofuzi I think I just believe in the brand. They have an east coast feel (home for me) and the whole (literal and metaphorical) package is so well thought out. Can't wait to give em a go.
Elliot, phone home 👽
I totally forgot about that until I just watched Believe In the Run's video just now
A lot of modern technology but really looks like a retro shoe for "lifestyle" use. Not to be soiled by running in it!
run em if you got em
Just buy Puma Velocity Nitro 2 and save a shedload of coin. Although you could almost smell the quality through the screen. 🤔
Why does this shoe make me want to compare it to the Rolls Royce Ghost ??😅
I have my doubts. Looks like a great marketing effort to sell shoes!
I'm sure it wasn't intended as such, but I will choose to take this comment as a compliment
@@kofuzi I guess I’m just so overwhelmed with so many new shoes coming on the market now! I can only run in one pair at a time!
Received pair #198 on 1.4.23. I don’t think I’m gonna run in them. I wore them to a restaurant last night, and cringed when I accidentally stepped in some pee in the bathroom.
I think this shoe will have a lot of runners suddenly searching for the first time for shoe cleaning products
The Eliot is also very similar to the Speedland shoe insofar as I will never buy it. That non-functional pull-tab is so silly.
it's kind of my favorite detail
@@kofuzi Spoken like a true trophy husband.
Seems like it was made for shopping in nordstroms or lulu. Looks sharp as a daily when needing to transition right into doing errands
hopefully, you made it past the thumbnail to see that it is an actual running shoe, beauty notwithstanding
@@kofuzi heck ya, watched the whole thing like usual. Most of my running shoes scream “dad-shoes” when I attempt to where them outside of running, it’s good to finally have a fashionable option that my kids won’t be too embarrassed by
These look beautiful....to walk in
not bad for running either
Only white?
for now
Indeed Tracksmith provides the most beautiful (expensive) clothes in the world 🙀….. TS Eliot? Seriously 😮
Someone told me that story a couple months ago and I totally believed it for a few weeks
@@kofuzi oh Mike....you mean it's not true? ;-)
I feel like this shoe wants to invite me to their private country club
well, I have a pair, and no one has ever or will ever consider inviting me to their country club