Pat McAfee & AJ Hawk's Thoughts On The NFL's Pain Medication Problem
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I have cancer and have been prescribed Dilaudid, oxycodone, morphine and fentanyl. The chemo treatments cause brutal pain. Every single joint and bone in my body hurts like hell. Even the bones in my ears hurt.
Even me, with stage 4 cancer and legal prescriptions get treated like a drug addict every time I go to the pharmacy.
Stay strong bro...get well soon 💪
dilaudid is fire
Are ice baths an option?
Don’t sweat it half of them probably have a closet addiction.
Dave Gordon--can I get ur number
Brian Urlacher said publicly that when he would get a concussion or hit in the head and dazed during the game, he was fake an ankle or knee injury and limp off so he could sit out a play or two, get some water and come back so the refs wouldn’t think that it was his head.
When I was a running back and started getting sciatic nerve pain from a herniated disc in school, my one doc started giving me hydrocodone scripts. It was nice getting tackled and not feeling anything from it. The next morning sucked. Looking back it was kind of reckless someone in high school is getting opiate scripts before even trying thc.
Bro, I got sick at the age of 15 years old, My freshman year in high school and by the time the doctors were done with me I was being prescribed fentanyl patches and oxycontin. So I know exactly what you're saying man. It's a dangerous slope. I don't think kids should be prescribed pain medicine at all. Or you if you have to prescribe pain medicine after a surgery. It's only for 3 or 4 days.
You had some secret willpower my man opiates are so easy to get addicted to
Mary Jane as a medicine for legit nerve, joint, and muscle pain is a myth.
I definitely wouldn't be writing opiate scripts for a high school kud but I wouldn't waste your time with a thc script either.
THC does nothing for pain management. It's medicinal use is highly questionable. I've had sciatic nerve pain while being a daily user of cannabis and it didn't relieve my pain AT ALL
@@TheVCudi those hydro and Vicodin scripts didn’t give me a buzz until a friend talked me into taking 6 before school. Then felt that warm body confidence feeling. I quit after football season, until into college a dude in a wheel chair had dilaudid 4mgs and I told him my pain issues he said these are better for back pain, trust me. Those worked best for pain and only needed one or 2. Now dillys are unheard of and my buddy spent 40 just for 1 to experiment a few years ago.
NFL: Had an issue with pills and players taking them to deal with the pain.
Also the NFL: Fines and suspends any player who tests positive for the electric lettuce. 🤔
Not anymore. Marijuana is not a banned substance.
Electric lettuce I like that
Electric lettuce is an amazing name.
electric lettuce? u must like sativas lol
It's more of a issue than someone just trying to enjoy a blunt after a long season with friends on a beach or in their own house minding their own business playing video games
Get a job
@@larrykinari1872 based Larry
@@larrykinari1872 I'm sure OP has a job. And if they don't, they can find one. You'll be a douche forever.
@@larrykinari1872 i have a job and i promise i make more money than you, i smoke weed every day when i get home. Shut up.
Preaching to the choir man we all believe that at least most of us do but as long as the big bad no fun league rules everything I hear now that it's OK you can smoke but I might be wrong anybody know
Toradol is not an opiate. It’s an NSAID that is just stronger than aleve or advil. People often confuse toradol (nsaid) with tramadol (opiate). The reason for being cautious about toradol is not because of habit forming and addiction, it’s because of how blocking pain can lead to worse injuries.
You also need inflammatory markers as part of the healing process. Decrease it too much and you won’t heal as awll.
That ingredient he's talking about is called msg. Uncle Roger would be very disappointed in you nephew Pat
"SMOKE WEED EVERYDAYYYY"
I believe Brett Favre had a pain pill problem as well. Pretty sad, since he probably at first was prescribed it for an injury, and then fell down a hole that's hard to get out of.
He worked fcking hard in the middle of his career to quit. And continued to play medication free
Brett Favre ended up in the hospital from constipation from painkillers
If you watch America's game.on the 96 packers farve talks a lot about his problem with pain pills
yes there is a Graham Bensinger interview with him, he said he took 15 Vicodin a day.
@@sebastianm.2901 Kurt angle has entered the chat room and is laughing
"You never get addicted to it cuz it's an injectable"
- Pat McAfee and also pimps across the "globe"
They should just unban weed lol. It's medically legal in a bunch of states, and it doesn't improve performance, so I don't see the issue
I think until it is fully legal or at least medicinally the nfl will not allow it sadly
The issues with weed are minuscule, but it’s majority vs minority. And also about money and who gets the money and who loses money.
@@slimischillin7753 na majority support weed it’s just old people that are like 60+ that dont
@SlamDogg Millionaire you aren't actually a libertarian unless you're cool with slavery. I mean hey, the market says humans are in demand right? Not like a government should stop a libertarian from buying a human.
Vitamins*
Love the irony of discussing substances that are damaging in hindsight while AJ lights a huge cigar.
Sometimes you make too much excuses for the league Pat. The doctors who work for the league have been known those painkillers were bad. I've read about them being horrible for you all my life and I'm no doctor. That info has been out close to 50 years.
The drs don’t have to work for the league to be the issue, they received kickbacks for years until the government put sanctions on them which only screwed their patients that had to turn to street drugs to replace them
Stop being soft
You’re right. You’re not a doctor.
I’m pretty sure the NFL is still sticking to the Belief that concussions do not cause CTE.
@@Taosravenfan doesn’t take a doctor to do your own research. Just someone with half a brain
I played WR for university of Tennessee for 2 years 2010-2012. Had 4-6 separate toradal “treatments”
I transferred to Louisville after my sophomore year. Pulled my hamstring and asked for toradal and they looked at me like I asked them for cocaine lol by 2013 I guess it was illegal for college
They become suspicious if you ask for specific meds.
I have cancer and still have issues getting my pain meds
@@davegordon6943 I had knee surgery (nothing compared to cancer) but I had to legit do an interview to get a refill on my pain meds. They were very cautious or pain killer abuse while I was there.
Things have changed. I had my ACL rebuilt in 1999. I got my doctor to write me at least 2 refills for the Vicodin. He joked while writing the 3rd script that he was cutting me off. I bet now, it would be one script and I’m cut off.
@@milli2385 yeah they make you sign an agreement that you will take urine screens and not take any other meds
What we were doing pat was getting lit before the game and crushing guys on kick off and then repeat after half time… todays a way different time for sure!
Just cause you feel it less doesn’t mean you aren’t getting more injured whilst using it. So your sacrificing your future for the moment.
Fact.
True, but NFL money is only temporarily, so you better make as much as you can now, instead of playing the longevity game.
That is life in the NFL
Shoot I was taking 10-15 ibuprofen pills before half of my basketball games in college 🤦♂️
Crazy favre was taking 20 pain pills a day back when he was hurt and battled addiction. He came thru it and won mvp 3 years in a row. What a guy and what a career
Jesus I’ve met some world class burnouts popping half that many pills
IIRC the story about Brett was pretty over the top, more like dozens and dozens a day and re-ingesting bits of pills after throwing them up. True addict stuff. He's gotta story for sure.
I’m old tore ACL. Walked several miles to hospital, to OR replaced. Up three hours afterwards had Tordol in IV no pain. Walked out hospital next morning pain free.
Way to use the platform guys. Big issue. Has destroyed many people I know. The greatest medicine is within us already.
The greatest medicine is within us already? You mean cannabis?
The greatest medicine grows in 9 weeks.
Pot isn’t a medicine.
@@waynecreyaufmiller2098 so how come it shrinks cancer cells? Alleviates seizures? Gives people who are in chemo back their APPETITE so they dont look like zombies. I'm gonna puff one for u sir. Good day...
@@waynecreyaufmiller2098 he didn’t say that though did he? Can’t read huh?
Hell, it was an issue back in High School for me. I'd go to the Doctors and all I had to say was I was sore from playing on the High School Lacrosse/Football teams, Vicodons, Oxys, Somas and every other Pain/Muscle Relaxants you want.
Just finished playing college football last season, was an Olineman in the MAC only reason I could play all season with a back injury was… toradol
10 years from now teams will be prescribing guys 3.5 of zaza. NFL needs to get with the times
more like goodell needs to fuckin go kick rocks and resign
I had abdominal surgery, had about a foot of large intestine removed, and got toradol for a few days post surgery. It was fantastic. My body felt loose and pretty much pain free until they released me and sent me home with a script for norco. Toradol was much, much better.
Same here. In the hospital, I asked for Toradol because I watch this show. Once the injection hit it took all my pain away. They wouldn't give me a script for toradol once I left the hospital. I had to choose between Hydromorphone (Highly addictive - and I hallucinated but still felt the pain so no thank you) or ibuprofen. Ended up bedridden at home for months until I had surgery.
Pro cyclists use a drug called Tramadol which isnt an opioid. Not sure if its illegal or not, sometimes a rider will get busted for Tramadol but its not on the WADA banned list bc its not a performance advantage when used. Problem or risk is that when someone doesnt feel pain they can continue to ride when injured etc which is dangerous. I have to think Tramadol is used in NFL but no idea
Tramadol is an opioid. It’s sort of an unpredictable and risky medication because it affects serotonin.
I think you might be thinking of Toradol. Toradol is prescription NSAID that a lot of professional athletes use. It’s not a narcotic so it doesn’t get you high. It’s generally harmless unless it’s used regularly. When used regularly like a lot of professional athletes do, it can cause a lot of nasty gastrointestinal problems and kidney damage.
i had guardian cap when i played high school football for practices. it helps also with soft tissue hits. coaches did a display when we first got them where they took 2 helmets and bang them together between a hand and you don’t feel it
Toradol is not a narcotic nor is it addictive. It’s an NSAID similar to Tylenol, ibuprofen etc.
Thank you. It has zero euphoric effect. What the hell are they talking about??
@@bobbymunroe4363 it’s great because you go from in incredible pain, to zero pain. Feeling the pain literally melt away has its own euphoric effect, even though the drug itself isn’t euphoric in nature. Only if your in bad pain, if u have no pain, it won’t feel like anything
Tylenol is not an NSAID
Just because it’s not a narcotic doesn’t mean it isn’t dangerous. A lot of current and former professional athletes have serious health problems caused by regular toradol use
@@bobbymunroe4363 it’s dangerous when used regularly. It can cause nasty gastrointestinal and kidney damage
Perk 30 sounds good right now
Yeah 5 of them sound pretty appealing right about now. Too bad they all have fent in them now days and are 30-40 a pop. I don't think Dr's will barely prescribe them anymore
Been about 6 years since I had one of them blue devils
@@lukaskole2995 I know a guy that has them for 20 a piece, 6 for 100 if you’re ever in wichita lol
Chill crackhead
NFL should unban Pot Of Greed
aaron does a great job talking about this on jre, people misconstrued what he said but he said it well
Great video boys
I grew up in a low income area and pills was a common factor in all the suicides I know about. I have a good feeling it a common factor in all NFL suicides along with CTE.
If they ban pain pills. Expect a lot of people to retire. I couldn’t imagine playing 18 games plus playoffs and not able to use or take something. The wear and tear on the body without some sort of substance would be painful.
Ridiculous. I’m sure more than 50 percent of players consume marijuana in some form, constantly or occasionally. Stop suspending players for marijuana !!
I remember going to the er with a severe neck strain (slipped on ice here in Green Bay lol) and they gave me toradol in the er… man I can see why players depend on it on game day
If you are rich, famous, a musician or an athlete you still looked up to when you do pain pills. No judgement is ever passed. If you are a regular citizen you are a horrible person who I'd a drug addict. We have tiny brains in this country.
u spittin
Regular people aren’t getting hit by 300 pound men
@@Solznmid Maybe not, but some of them do jobs that deal every bit as much damage to their bodies. Mining, farming, construction, the military, and certain heavy industry takes a great deal out of workers' bodies, and many of those sorts of people end up on painkillers... Just without the same level of access to resources and support networks as current and to a lesser extent former athletes.
Ugh, poor people are the worst!
@@don_5283 true
I took ibuprofen long term, it really hurt my stomach and that hurt my health. Now I can't take anything like it at all. Have to watch stuff like this.
Every toradol shot I got playing D1 Football AND Baseball, then pro baseball, was extremely necessary but BURNED LIKE FIRE coming out of the syringe.
My issue is nobody has a problem with someone taking pills like candy but god forbid if someone smokes a joint everyone overeacts pills can destroy your body over time weed won't and even relaxs you won't it be better for a person to chill then to be addicted
.............,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, here's some extra punctuation to use next time bro
A ton of people have a huge problem with people taking pills like candy
Freedom is being able to put whatever substance into your body that you choose too.
freedom is also being able to make and enforce rules for your employees
@@bizkoh 😂 they forget it goes both ways
@@bizkoh you’re missing cheap temporary labor you never have to insure haha
I’m sure it was a smaller amount, but the Doctors gave me Toradol for a back pain from when I hurt myself deadlifting, and was having trouble walking and sleeping… frankly it didn’t help me much.
Same!
i played for the lions for 4 seasons and i wouldn’t have been able to play some games without them
Pat don’t forget to add skips brother and Shannon sharpe to the chef contest 😂
Creams, smokables, and eatibles got to be a solid option for these guys!
If the players know the needle gage then we might have a problem. Tordal needs to used with a 18g IM for max effect. Great stuff.
Toradil does wonders for my back
Chef Jean-Pierre or Chef John.......
In 09 I got smacked down at work. @ broken wrists, other issues then come to find out both knees are damaged ( not exactly requiring surgery ) all 4 extremities became arthritic or something.
Eventually after 6 moths I'm put on 3/day - muscle relaxer, opiate pain pill, and a NSAID. Understand - I could work -- the opiate worked but didn't seen to buzz me up. The combination worked great. A truck driver turned me onto Dichlofenac and it was wonderful.
Work at 8, eat something while on morning computer functions - take meds and begin walk around. Took an hour more or less - the initial oh- ooch - ouch became stomp stomp, ugh so what in about a half hour.
Found out later that med journals stated after 6 months NSAID use cardio problems can occur. Then came the heart attack.
For the record - I went and asked the docs if I could get 5 or 10 mg hydro's so after work and home for the night I could take 1 to kick back relax n sleep.
Nope - mandatory monthly appointments, 3 times a day and all the extra crap n tests.
I figured I could survive work and didn't want to come home to whiskey......
Yeah, Diclofenac is indeed effective but it's more popular here in Europe.
Pat and the boys getting injected with that “Wolverine Juice” like Hugh Jackman in “Logan”
Anyone know the brand of cigars AJ has?
I had a classmate in highschool who said he took a handful on aspirin, ibuprofen, and others before every game. One time he took too much where his nose wouldn't stop bleeding out of no where.
Wtf lol
@@thesnorman5666 Imagine the runs; but out of your nose and you never noticed until your coach was like "hey, that doesn't seem healthy."
Yeah that sht ain’t good for your kidneys
@@daniell5740 Avoiding pain makes you do a lot of things.
@@schlime1167
Omg man, I hope he recovered and stopped that practice?
Umm..Toradol is injectable Ibuprofen. How do I know? As an AEMT in Wisconsin, I can give it for pain control.
Toradol and ibuprofen are similar but not the same thing.
Years ago I saw a video with Marcellus Wiley on here (CZcams) talking about pain pill addiction too with Toradol. It was scary to listen to him.
Tordol isn’t a pill it’s an injection
It can be taken orally, but IV and nasal spray won't tear up the stomach lining like Toradol.
@@danielmiller1462 If he took injections I stand corrected, but it was still bothersome content matter.
@@edwardmason119 Pretty sure it would be injectable in the NFL. Works a lot better and way faster than the pill form. I had pills for awhile and only got the injection once. That injection was amazing. Literally felt like i had a new body for the day.
Some may need them in a small time frame but it usually ends up being an addiction. Happens all the time with regular people that have surgery. Definitely should make THC in any form a good option for all. It will save a lot of addictions to pills. But that less profit for Big Pharma. 😏
Bobby Flay is a beast... yeah, I said that about a chef 😆
Touche for speaking plainly, why I listen.
I played ball with guys who couldn't play if they weren't pilled up,it was sad to watch
Toradol doesn’t work for everybody & as Pat said has a short shelf life. There are p.o. (by mouth) tabs , but they are not as effective. Overuse can lead to kidney failure & internal bleeding
thanks for talking about this a bit, pills stink.
All the time in the future,priceless🐴
Probably not as bad as the steroids problem. does toradol have any anabolic properties?
Im so pumped for another toxic video from the boys!!! Love the show keep killing it boys!!!!
Remember Calvin Johnson experience and that was at least 10 years ago
AJ Hawk looks like a villain from a bad Steven Seagal movie.
so if you get 10 guys to run into each other with guardian caps does it save 100%
The chef metaphor is real because MSG is something that makes literally everything better but do many people think it’s bad for no reason.
Unless you get migraines from it haha
NFL fans be like "Top-tier athletes in a full-contact sport use pain meds? Whaaaaa?" These kinds of things are Pandora's Box in sports, once they are introduced and give an advantage they will be present forever.
I hurt my back a couple weeks ago, dr gave me a toradol shot and they ain’t lying… it works wonders
Tordol is a non narcotic pain medicine which doesn't get you high but does treat everyday aches and pains
The problem is it absolutely ruins your insides when you use it on a regular basis like professional athletes do. It’s non-addictive but arguably more damaging to your health long term than opiates.
I can also release thc from my body and when you use the radiac appliance while doing these things you can intensify this two fold.
Chef’s do have an ingredient that makes every dish better. It’s called MSG.
I new this would become a thing after that JRE episode.
This was the main reason Andrew Luck left the league.
The ingredient is called MSG extra flavor
Look when you have players 26 to 45 still hitting at full speed it gets to you ofc they have a medical pill problem
I don’t know 🤷♂️
Wait, what is wrong with Toradol?? It's not an opioid, provides better relief than similar analgesics (Tylenol, Ibuprofen). I can definitely understand getting away from opioids (Fentanyl, Dilaudid, Hydrocodone) but this doesn't make sense to me unless there are concerns for things outside of addiction. That's what makes opioids so dangerous.
My own Ma is a pill head.. its a tragic life to witness.
Most players are probably in some for of pain killer to get through each game.
Pat meant salt the ingredient is salt😂
Prednisone is the big thing now from HS up
Pat described MSG for food!
It's not addictive because it's an injectable? So is heroin....
NFL new about the pain pill issue when these guys played lmao
The camera switching in the beginning was crap
"I tell you waht. If you did make that list it was going be a good day."
CTE symptoms mixed with drug, or alcohol use is not recommended.
Two things that make most food better; MSG and sugar lol
Should not prescribe Toradol without liver function testing. Before every round of treatment. It’s so bad.
Get Mike Rupp or even his brother Kevin Hayes, to talk about Jimmy Hayes opioid addiction. It's no joke.
Well I got addicted to oxys just playin high school ball so no way it’s not an insane issue in the nfl
classic do something when it becomes a massive problem
The ingredient cooks can use to make a turd taste like filet migon is MSG.
When is the NFL holding Public Tryouts to replace all the Injury Prone Busts/Bums!!!?
If its an issue the simple fix is take cannabis off the banned substance list.
We used toradol for flag football
That ingredient exists Pat 😂 it’s MSG
Hey
omg, all the brains saved
There is an ingredient that makes every single food better and everyone uses it. It is called salt I can’t think of any food that you wouldn’t add salt to at some point in the cooking process
Msg!
What about cereal
its so narley to have injuries and chronic problems and mask the pain with an injection or pill to get through a game and then have to deal with the consequences of doing what your body told you not to but the pain pill told your body to just shut the hell up with the pain for a few hours so you could do it anyway. not surprised people go through it like that for fame and fortune and respect, its just crazy to think about what people put their bodies through