Gravel Bike Tyres - 7 Tips To Help You Choose
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i run 26mm 'small knob' Panaracer gravelkings year round on my roadie - all those 'gravel' sections you see Francis doing (Waskerly Way, Derwent Walk, etc) are part of my local routes and i have no problems 99% of the time
Great content! I have a set of 40mm slicks on my gravel bike, 2 sets of wheels to interchange between road and off road. The 40mm slick does amazingly well off road. Nothing wet but some of the local tracks are completely rideable as long as I stay seated. Way for grip going around corners on the gravel tyres though for sure.
It's amazing to me how much you know about stuff without even knowing. Kielder is a great circuit.
Excellent Francis, I’m learning so much from your videos thank you 🚴🏻👍
Sound, practical advice from our top chap here in the Toon 👍Another top tip video, nice one Francis 👌
Great video, thanks for producing and sharing.
And remember tan tyres are lighter than all black if your worried about weight
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@@Cade_Media perhaps... But. You'll need more, sealant right?
oh boy am i happy to see a new video today! after the last one i thought we were going to have to wait longer
If you ride tubeless, get a tiny tiny pair of pliers to help remove valve core (or specific tool?) for when it all goes to crap and you have to put a tube in
got a cervelo aspero 38mm rides like a dream. For me its the confidence to be able to go on some very varied surfaces and not have to worry about punctures not to mention its much more comfortable than my previous bike.
Okay, so I watched your "5 Things I Wish I Knew as a Beginner Gravel Cyclist" and then had to come and rewatch this one now. But I also saw the one featuring your Scott Gravel bike build recently from Backyard Bikeshop and recall the solid description of Hutchinson tires as easy to fit onto rims and seat. So as I had to get some new tires and needed a more aggressive knobble to have a "mud" wheelset I've got a new set of Hutchinson Tundra. Dead easy to fit and a breeze to seat. Super impressed so far. Now to blast round the woods in the gloop....
It’s amazing how few mountain bike riders understand how to chose a tyre, the direction of rotation and tread pattern trade off for front and rear. In the 90s, Panaracer made the Smoke and Dart front and rear specific tyres, only recently have I started to see it coming in again. It makes a massive difference to the handling and the speed.
I'm lucky enough to have a gravel bike running Hunt 29er rims with 2.4 WTB Rangers, which I set at about 25psi for a mainly offload ride and nearer 30 if there's a bit more tarmac. This set up really eats true gravel and is versatile enough to ride pretty much any offroad UK trails. Good info in the vid as always. Keep it coming!
Great info Francis.
Whenever I ride my gravel bike - All purpose bike I split my surface between tarmac and gravel almost evenly. I'm currently wearing down a pair of Vittoria Torino dry tires. I really like these tires except for they are not long lasting.
I have a MTB with mixed tyres and a gravel bike with the same tyre front and rear. The big difference for me is that the gravel bike will "wipe out" as in, if I loose grip both wheels slide out at the same time and its scary AF. With the MTB the rear wheels gives my notice in advance by sliding first and it becomes fun and not that scary.
I had a similiar setup, but I noticed that it made me put too much weight on the back, all the time. If you have perfect weight distribution in corners, both wheels should slide at the same time, which is actually a desireable riding characteristic, but only if you know how to corner properly (lean the bike, not yourself).
@@diviscadilek1764 Having both wheels break traction at the same time in a corner is not and will never be "a desireable riding characteristic" that's just completely false. "Perfect" weight distribution is never achievable in the real world either. It is always safer to lose traction in the rear first to give the rider time to recover.
If they're directional, you want to mount the front as stated on the side wall but for the rear the direction on the side wall gives more grip when braking, but if you want more grip for accelerating and climbing you can mount it backwards. Tyre pressure is just as important, if not more so than tread pattern.
happy to see the cinelli in the background!
Great video. Missed arguably the most important factor after tread pattern is casing. With the new gen gravel tyres utilizing improved sidewall and compound tech, it's not uncommon to have wider tyres with some knobbles be faster than the semi-slick gravel tyres of a few years ago (e.g. Pirelli Cinturato H vs. say the WTB Byways).
I brought a gravel bike back in June and I've been running 38mm Travail Cannonball's up until very recently where the trails/gravel/mud/paths/and whatever else people class as 'gravel' in the UK, have got wet and sloppy. I've opted for the new(ish) 40mm Goodyear Peak gravel tyres. Fingers crossed they do the job during the winter because I spend way too much money on bike tyres!
concise and knowledgable vid
Dry hard pack. Wide semi slick is great. Slick centre with some knobbles on the sides. 650b x 47 slick or semi slick is an underrated tyre for such places
Thanks FC, succint as ever!
Great video, studio is coming together nicely. I’ve been running tubeless on the road for 4 years and love the protection. How about a video comparing the different road darts? I’ve used the dynaplug with good success.
I use stan's tubeless dart. It reacts with latex sealant and forms a permanent fix almost instantly. It saved me once, and now I'm carrying it with me on every XC race.
Thanks Francis...I have a tip for you . SKS Speedrocker mudguards ! Easy to install and they work !! Peace
Thanks Francis. In terms of actual UK gravel you should have a good explore of the new forest if you're ever back down.
Come to Minnesota Francis. We gave great gravel and great gravel events. 🤘🚴🏼♂️🤘
Great info Francis 👍🤩🚴
I live in County Durham near Hamsterley Forest and ride a mix of tarmac, gravel and the forest. I use some Schwalbe G-One Allround (tan wall) 700x38mm setup tubeless. Great tyre for a bit of everything and absolutely fantastic in the snow and ice. I did use some Vittoria Terreno Zero but they were to slick for what I wanted.
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Maxixis crossmark 11 2.1 inch on my Salsa Fargo work well here in France and hopefully better for the tour divide.
UK Slop is the name of my new post-punk band
Mtb riding I started off with 1.95" on the XC hardtail ,before moving up in size for some extra grip.to 2.0/2.1 Specialized Storm at the back and a wider 2.3 Bonty mud up front 26 inch wheel stuff and generally use same set up all year.. Switching more to road/gravel the bike I've got came with Schwable Marathons 700 40C and I've used them on pretty much all surfaces and some trail sections I road on the mtb and surprised how well they worked even in soft mud.
Just choosing which type of mountain bike to get is a minefield! vid on that be swell 🤟🏿
Super intro to the whole tyre debate... Fwiw I'm running vittoria terreno drys which are surprisingly great in the wet and slop, gets a bit sketchy in proper mud though. Got some touregs that I haven't gotten around to putting on... May save them for next winter now... Summer is nearly here right 😂
Useful video
this time last year I was like gravel bike? no way! this year I find myself shopping for a gravel bike! this channel is costing me, but in a good way. :)
I run “small knobble” Panaracers on my Dolan. Chose the 46mm ones and love the comfort this wide tyres give.
Small knobbles work for me as don’t do muddy, but do “real gravel”, but also some of the really rubbish small roads around the North Downs so again love the comfort and assurance.
Oh, and +1 to the comment about SKS mudguards. Why would you not have mudguards on a gravel bike ? 😉
Thank you
I’ve always mixed tires - semislick (either it’s narrow or wide one) on the back and more konby tire for avoiding slipping on the front.
Well back in the day or 1990’s well before gravel bikes I would fit 29mm specialised tri cross tyres with knobby’s used for cyclo cross for winter commuting, they were very good but would wear down quickly
If only I had this a couple weeks ago when I bought some new tyres! Guess I now know for the next set lol
Francis. Can you review the lighting when showing a tyre close up. Not the clearest when trying to look at the nobbels. Great work. Tim
A good vid but for me I run as wide tyres as I possibly can for everything. The wider the tyre, the lower the tyre pressure, and therefore the better tubeless sealant will work. This is especially important if you're riding with cargo and or if you're heavier than 90kg or whatever. Yeah you may lose a bit of rolling resistance optimisation but the benefit outweighs the cost for me.
Back in the 70s when I was a lad we use what ever wheels and tyres we could get from the dump on your bike . Today I am still riding bike in the woods trails and road . And I don't give a shit what tyre I have on I just ride my bike . And enjoy my day .
my sweet spot is a 700x38c since it's comfortable in both Tarnac & Gravel Road.
When I bought a Diverge last year I asked them to set it up tubeless. I love it, the tan sidewall tyres roll much faster (🤣🤣) and I fixed my first puncture within a few minutes. It takes a bit of mind force to stab the tyre with the repair gadget, but it worked perfectly. I wouldn't go back to tubes now.
Did you get the Expert model? That's the one I want to get.
@@norcalchrismeister The Comp Carbon which is much more than I deserve! But, like many people, I had saved a fair amount during the previous year so justified a treat.
Check out the Curve GXR, yes it’s Ti and high $$ but so worth it, frame for life, run two sets of wheels, one by drive train with a MTB cassette…..and Giro Cycles have these in the U.K.
Been using ultra sport 3s in the forrest and road, only puncture i had was from some glass in my driveway. Terrifying in the wet, total death in the ice
I ride mainly on hard packed dirt with light gravel. I usually go with the smooth 38 mm gravel tires like the factory original installation. In places, I run across fluffy sand piled at corners and there is a tendency to slide out. What tread type best addresses this? Are there scenarios where a treaded tire can be paired with a slick? If so, should the treaded tire be front or back? Great channel. 👍🏻
Oh cool gravel tyres
Im running a Kenda Kwest 700x28c which is just nice on gravel
Great video Francis. I love the subtle hint in the background. Im going with Columbus/Cinelli as a new channel sponsor? ;)
Nooope!
@@Cade_Media Haha! Well, excited to see what is coming anyways. Keep up the great work!
Well, what I'm doing with my Gravel bike is usually not gravel riding, but commuting. So I'm mostly on tarmac with only very small areas (
That was a rather short break. Always happy to "see you" though.
Running my Grail with standard tyres which run great in the New Forest but hellish in the rest of Hampshire at this time of year.
Thanks god bless
I would never of thought to mix the back and front tyres
it's curios that, for instance, the Continental Ultra Sport III tyres are described as road tyres up to the 28mm model, but the 32mm Ultra Sport III tyre is described by Continental as "road/gravel" despite being slick tyres.
Everyone seems to think all gravel riding in America is the same as the big races but that is far from the case. In The Charleston SC area it does involve gravel forest service roads but also lots of sand, mud, greenways and root filled single track.
Wow first video that wasn’t click bait or drama tiles .. good to see real cycle info that useful
I run 40mm slicks for gravel and road mixed rides. This makes up a large percentage of rides for many people. These are fast and still grippy. If things are wet or perhaps some interesting terrain, I will often run 40mm with small knobbies, deeper tread on the sides and a fine, smoother running surface in the center. These are 700 C and I look for supple sidewalls. Some favorites are Rene Herse, Pirelli Centurato H and Schwalbe. For aggressive terrain, mud or chunky gravel or for bike packing, I drop down to a 650b and go big, usually 50 or 55mm. Here again I like Rene Herse and Pirelli Centurato M. A stronger, less supple sidewall if I am heading into the “boonies”!
Read up on Rene Herse - interesting stuff!
What are your 40mm slicks?
I have 38mm Barlow Pass or if you have room, they make a 44 Snoqualmie Ridge. Both are 700C from Rene Herse in Seattle. They also make a very fast rolling “knobbies” in a variety of widths.
I’m using continental race king 2.0 650b on my Sonder Ti gravel bike 🚴 🙂🙂
Live from the big market Newcastle
“Are you a roadie that started delving into gravel?” Have you been spying on me 🤣
Long story short it’s taken about a year of waiting for parts and a frame built to spec. to get out on my gravel bike. I’m running 650b wheels and Panaracer Gravelking 1.9 (48) front and rear and love it on the wet, slime covered, gritty, pot holed Hertfordshire B roads and country lanes.
It didn’t stop me from a complete, warning less, wipeout on some black ice last weekend though! My new bike doesn’t look new now 🙁. Broken helmet too!
Tubeless on my road bike too but it’s been a longer trial finding the right wheel / tyre brand combination though.
Tyre video is great information 👌 but remember to state you have to put them on the right way 👍 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I done a 100km gravel ride in October on my MTB with gravel tyres o and it is a 26" wheel I used a very small knobbles it was good fun but I would change the bike I used as it was to heavy 😁 and my picture for my profile is on the said ride 😁😁
How about a video on gravel tires that don't kill the people behind you. My GravelKing SK Knobbies have a list of fatalities. The upshot is people request that I draft them, so they don't become the next victim.
What's your thoughts on puitting 700x47 gravel tyres on Hunt XC wide 29er 622x25 wheel sets...? Looking to go narrower for a gravel event, cheers :)
You might be able to find a brand of 700c tyres for me with a continuous tread line down the center of the tyre, but big knobbies on the edge etc.
I have these on my 26" (x2.1") MTB and they have a better rolling resistance than my Vitoria 700x23.
They are super common on Chinese 26" MTBs, but I can't find any for my gravel bike yet
Specialized Pathfinder Pro's.
i have mob enduraceCX I don't know what's the perfect setup 🙃🤕
Great video for an old roadie considering getting a gravel or a mountain bike to take advantage of the fantastic forest trails where I live.
What I don’t like about riding off road is the low tyre pressure. I can’t get used to the squidgy feeling. Does it do any harm pumping the tyres up harder than a mountain biker usually would?
Won’t be squishy, but ultimately you will lose traction earlier than you otherwise would. I dont like the feeling either, but the grip afforded by the compliance when you need it makes me get used to it.
What should I get panaracer 35c or 38c im 58kg and only using my gravel bike 1-2hr every day on a 70/30 pavement/light gravel. Help me choose pls or i'll miss the sale😢😅
i live in Greece so is dry and is more like dirt fire roads , got 32 small nobs was thinking to go 42 small nobs , and only use my gravel bike in winter and still is not much rain , since riding slow big clime in the sun is not that fun ,
#CADE I'm looking for a tire wheel combo that can handle approx 1600 lbs front ea. and back ea. so 3200 lbs together. Thats a 250 lb rider at various speeds doing various maneuvers that all cause impact that would rupture a weaker setup. But speed and traction are priorities. Whats your recommendation of someplace to start?
Re: mixing, my grippy tyre goes on the back otherwise I just wheel spin on any slight incline with gas or mud.
From the new studio? I missed the comment of using tan walls to save some weight! You could have promoted your old video. 😉
My issue with tires on my gravel bike if constant flats. Even Schwalbe Marathon Plus tires didn't help. How do you deal with flats? (BTW my rims don't accept tubeless.)
When it's sloppy mud, narrower can be better to cut through the slop more easily
I ride the Schwalbe G-One all round in 35mm, not because I ride gravel but because South SOMERSET roads/ lanes is like off roading….
On gravel some top racers claim that tires as wide as 47are the fastest. At what point does width begin to negatively impact aerodynamics?
will this fit a 5'6 person?
I’m waiting on my wilier Jena to be shipped. Eta feb. 2022 🙏🙏🙏
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I've been using hutchinsin overrides for years. Great on road and light weight gravel
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Is it possible to convert any wheelset to to be tubeless by using enough rim tape?
It is. There are videos on youtube on how to do it.
@@todd92371 Thanks! will have a look
How is the jury still out on road tubeless? I’ve been riding them for years and the pro peloton is as well. What else is there against it?
Once you get above 40psi it seems the pressure overcomes the ability to seal on even small cuts. Also depends where you ride, most roadies will get very very few punctures. City riders might get a lot more.
mines been working well recently but with bigger tyres (30mm), before it would just spaff everywhere - if it worked as well as mtb tubeless then I would be a convert for sure
@@Cade_Media number of the folks I know roadie plus some gravel have had punctures that essentially they couldn’t fix, or at least by the road side. Now admittedly they probably get less punctures than hold outs like myself. Though part of that is cost I’d need new wheels.
Considering that how inept folks are at just changing a tube, fixing a tubeless tyre that will now not seal….
As I ride 80%tarmac 20% gravel (hardback) any tyre reccomendations my bike came with 35m panaracer comer
I've been having good luck with WTB Riddler's in 37c
32c is the best gravel tyres
knobbles is a funny word
1:35 ... why you behind the wheel, looks like a prison made of spokes lol
I’m enjoying the bike so far czcams.com/users/postUgkxMesz3KOGEmwmvyKQfLfrRSUXLFzfVHZA My only real complaints are the brakes and the pedals. I feel like a bike designed for bigger people should have much larger pedals and more heavy duty brakes. I’ve only gotten two really good rides out of it, minimal downhill action, and the brakes feel like they’re already going out. A larger person has more momentum, so I think this wasn’t thought through very well. Also, I wear size 13-14 wide shoes. My feet cramp up on these pedals that are clearly made for smaller feet. Since I’m not a pro rider (and I don’t think many are who purchase this bike) I don’t think that the straps on the pedal are necessary at all. None of this takes away from the enjoyment I get from riding, however. I’ll just head to a bike shop to improve on a few things.
For us Yanks: knobbles = knobbies... great information
3:30 we need to confirm if mix and matching tires is abiding by Velominati rules.
Just had a peek at my bike next to me and yep, tyre is on the wrong way round 🤦♂
Gravel....loose term..... Slow clap :p
Wider tire and slicker tire don't have to do with the grip. It's from the rubber compound, thread pattern, terrain and weight.
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I only saw mtb tires…
Wrong about tubeless, tube tires are lighter, uses 300mW more power which you would never feel. Tubes have come a long way over the years. I have never ridden tires with low enough pressure to get a snake bite. I find tubeless losses too much air over a long ride to make it viable.
Plus tubeless require far too much fuss and bother, especially in the off season.
the seat is way to small its not what thy tell you